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	<title>Comments on: Zonbu Green PC</title>
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		<title>By: whoknew</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/zonbu-green-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-573524</link>
		<dc:creator>whoknew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 03:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This looks like an awesome linux box. I am not sure if that are trying to compete with the mac mini but from the video it seems to be responsive, I am very interested in learning more about this especially if it can support more devices. I hope to read and see more of this box. For the $99, and 14.95 a month is not that bad for a hassle free system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks like an awesome linux box. I am not sure if that are trying to compete with the mac mini but from the video it seems to be responsive, I am very interested in learning more about this especially if it can support more devices. I hope to read and see more of this box. For the $99, and 14.95 a month is not that bad for a hassle free system.</p>
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		<title>By: patobrocks</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/zonbu-green-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-537966</link>
		<dc:creator>patobrocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This machine is made for someone like me:  I ca use a computer, but I don't know nor care about what makes them tick.  I like to drive my car, and I am a good driver, but I don't want to build one or even fix one.  But I do change the oil and light repairs.

The Zonbu might work for me.  I am thinking about buying one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This machine is made for someone like me:  I ca use a computer, but I don&#8217;t know nor care about what makes them tick.  I like to drive my car, and I am a good driver, but I don&#8217;t want to build one or even fix one.  But I do change the oil and light repairs.</p>
<p>The Zonbu might work for me.  I am thinking about buying one.</p>
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		<title>By: jh</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/zonbu-green-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-531380</link>
		<dc:creator>jh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 03:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't think of a single person I'd recommend this machine to. 

Packaging free software with it doesn't change the fact that the hardware is a boat anchor.

This is just the Linux version of webTV.

People on a budget can get better for less used.

People not on a budget can get better for break even at 2 years use and a lot better for a break even at 3 years use. Its subcription. A leech sucking money from your wallet the longer you leave it attached.

People conscious of space and energy use can get a laptop.

It is not going to have the things non user's need in a computer, like a DVD or games or edutainment.

But of course because they put Linux on it I have to turn off my brain and pretend its great. 

Its not a stupid product designed for the gullible. I just need to stop looking at it from the perspective of some one with a lick of sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t think of a single person I&#8217;d recommend this machine to. </p>
<p>Packaging free software with it doesn&#8217;t change the fact that the hardware is a boat anchor.</p>
<p>This is just the Linux version of webTV.</p>
<p>People on a budget can get better for less used.</p>
<p>People not on a budget can get better for break even at 2 years use and a lot better for a break even at 3 years use. Its subcription. A leech sucking money from your wallet the longer you leave it attached.</p>
<p>People conscious of space and energy use can get a laptop.</p>
<p>It is not going to have the things non user&#8217;s need in a computer, like a DVD or games or edutainment.</p>
<p>But of course because they put Linux on it I have to turn off my brain and pretend its great. </p>
<p>Its not a stupid product designed for the gullible. I just need to stop looking at it from the perspective of some one with a lick of sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Fragged</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/zonbu-green-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-533976</link>
		<dc:creator>Fragged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if the user doesn't know much about computers, I have a feeling this is the target for the machine, no, its not extremely powerful, but how powerful _MUST_ a word processor / light internet usage computer need to be? 

Along with the ease of use, and extremely cheap price for a NEW (note: new and second hand mean different things to different people, most people do not understand that a second hand computer is different to a second hand pair of underwear that smells funny).

I imagine I'd be the only one in my family of 5, and one of two in my extended family to not benefit from a machine like this, everybody else would benefit an extreme amount... in the event that something bjorks, insert CD, it formats itself, automatically updates, and retrieves all your documents via an ENCRYPTED session. 

And while some people go "I don't want my documents flying across the internet no matter how encrypted" there are a few who don't care, or would likely be more secure with there documents flying across the internet rather than running Windows XP.

While some people look at this computer with their own perspective, what about that of somebody else, think about your mother, who's likely to do a bit of light surfing, write an email, maybe a letter, VoIP when the technology gets a bit more popular, how much more functionality do people like this really need? props to the company that made the system, I hope to see this project succeed (and with luck, increase the market share of free software ;))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if the user doesn&#8217;t know much about computers, I have a feeling this is the target for the machine, no, its not extremely powerful, but how powerful _MUST_ a word processor / light internet usage computer need to be? </p>
<p>Along with the ease of use, and extremely cheap price for a NEW (note: new and second hand mean different things to different people, most people do not understand that a second hand computer is different to a second hand pair of underwear that smells funny).</p>
<p>I imagine I&#8217;d be the only one in my family of 5, and one of two in my extended family to not benefit from a machine like this, everybody else would benefit an extreme amount&#8230; in the event that something bjorks, insert CD, it formats itself, automatically updates, and retrieves all your documents via an ENCRYPTED session. </p>
<p>And while some people go &#8220;I don&#8217;t want my documents flying across the internet no matter how encrypted&#8221; there are a few who don&#8217;t care, or would likely be more secure with there documents flying across the internet rather than running Windows XP.</p>
<p>While some people look at this computer with their own perspective, what about that of somebody else, think about your mother, who&#8217;s likely to do a bit of light surfing, write an email, maybe a letter, VoIP when the technology gets a bit more popular, how much more functionality do people like this really need? props to the company that made the system, I hope to see this project succeed (and with luck, increase the market share of free software ;))</p>
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		<title>By: Fragged</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/zonbu-green-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-533975</link>
		<dc:creator>Fragged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if the user doesn't know much about computers, I have a feeling this is the target for the machine, no, its not extremely powerful, but how powerful _MUST_ a word processor / light internet usage computer need to be? 

Along with the ease of use, and extremely cheap price for a NEW (note: new and second hand mean different things to different people, most people do not understand that a second hand computer is different to a second hand pair of underwear that smells funny).

I imagine I'd be the only one in my family of 5, and one of two in my extended family to not benefit from a machine like this, everybody else would benefit an extreme amount... in the event that something bjorks, insert CD, it formats itself, automatically updates, and retrieves all your documents via an ENCRYPTED session. 

And while some people go "I don't want my documents flying across the internet no matter how encrypted" there are a few who don't care, or would likely be more secure with there documents flying across the internet rather than running Windows XP.

While some people look at this computer with their own perspective, what about that of somebody else, think about your mother, who's likely to do a bit of light surfing, write an email, maybe a letter, VoIP when the technology gets a bit more popular, how much more functionality do people like this really need? props to the company that made the system, I hope to see this project succeed (and with luck, increase the market share of free software ;))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if the user doesn&#8217;t know much about computers, I have a feeling this is the target for the machine, no, its not extremely powerful, but how powerful _MUST_ a word processor / light internet usage computer need to be? </p>
<p>Along with the ease of use, and extremely cheap price for a NEW (note: new and second hand mean different things to different people, most people do not understand that a second hand computer is different to a second hand pair of underwear that smells funny).</p>
<p>I imagine I&#8217;d be the only one in my family of 5, and one of two in my extended family to not benefit from a machine like this, everybody else would benefit an extreme amount&#8230; in the event that something bjorks, insert CD, it formats itself, automatically updates, and retrieves all your documents via an ENCRYPTED session. </p>
<p>And while some people go &#8220;I don&#8217;t want my documents flying across the internet no matter how encrypted&#8221; there are a few who don&#8217;t care, or would likely be more secure with there documents flying across the internet rather than running Windows XP.</p>
<p>While some people look at this computer with their own perspective, what about that of somebody else, think about your mother, who&#8217;s likely to do a bit of light surfing, write an email, maybe a letter, VoIP when the technology gets a bit more popular, how much more functionality do people like this really need? props to the company that made the system, I hope to see this project succeed (and with luck, increase the market share of free software ;))</p>
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		<title>By: jh</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/zonbu-green-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-535295</link>
		<dc:creator>jh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually that's not the cheapest computer possible. The brand x 350 for the toddler to bang around on for $5 complete was the cheapest. The compaq 650/256mb/10g for $20 complete is not a bad kid's computer as long as the kid is young enough not to want games.

A low end gaming machine is $60 - $120. 

"Most people" don't know what linux is. Were it my wife I'd buy a raid card and a second drive and pocket the difference. There are numerous online storage solutions and kid's wares is not exact a linux strong suit.

As near as I can tell most linux people want a machine with enough guts to be interesting.

A linux appliance with a subscription fee?

Buy a real machine and send the subsciption fee to charity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually that&#8217;s not the cheapest computer possible. The brand x 350 for the toddler to bang around on for $5 complete was the cheapest. The compaq 650/256mb/10g for $20 complete is not a bad kid&#8217;s computer as long as the kid is young enough not to want games.</p>
<p>A low end gaming machine is $60 - $120. </p>
<p>&#8220;Most people&#8221; don&#8217;t know what linux is. Were it my wife I&#8217;d buy a raid card and a second drive and pocket the difference. There are numerous online storage solutions and kid&#8217;s wares is not exact a linux strong suit.</p>
<p>As near as I can tell most linux people want a machine with enough guts to be interesting.</p>
<p>A linux appliance with a subscription fee?</p>
<p>Buy a real machine and send the subsciption fee to charity.</p>
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		<title>By: BCC</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/zonbu-green-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-537314</link>
		<dc:creator>BCC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JH,

The point is that this is not for people looking for the cheapest computer imaginable.  eBay is great for that.

This is for people who want something that is low power, Just Works, backs up data, and makes that data available anywhere, with what sounds like reasonable security.  I may get one for my kids to bang around on and keep our photos on (my wife's HD crashed recently; though I back up fairly regularly we lost a few photos I would have rather not lost).

Some people (like me) are willing to pay something for convenience and reliability.  Kindly remember that not everyone is like you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JH,</p>
<p>The point is that this is not for people looking for the cheapest computer imaginable.  eBay is great for that.</p>
<p>This is for people who want something that is low power, Just Works, backs up data, and makes that data available anywhere, with what sounds like reasonable security.  I may get one for my kids to bang around on and keep our photos on (my wife&#8217;s HD crashed recently; though I back up fairly regularly we lost a few photos I would have rather not lost).</p>
<p>Some people (like me) are willing to pay something for convenience and reliability.  Kindly remember that not everyone is like you!</p>
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		<title>By: JH</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/zonbu-green-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-536231</link>
		<dc:creator>JH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$99 + $155 a year?

For the same price I bought a 2.8Ghz/1g ram/200 GB/128 MB AGP dell 400sc on EBay. I don't have to worry about subscriptions. I can run whatever OS I care to.

I just don't see the point.

If you want to be green, turn off the machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$99 + $155 a year?</p>
<p>For the same price I bought a 2.8Ghz/1g ram/200 GB/128 MB AGP dell 400sc on EBay. I don&#8217;t have to worry about subscriptions. I can run whatever OS I care to.</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t see the point.</p>
<p>If you want to be green, turn off the machine.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Hartley</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/zonbu-green-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-531640</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Hartley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 15:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris says it's KDE, but that seems really odd though considering GNOME's recent popularity....hmmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris says it&#8217;s KDE, but that seems really odd though considering GNOME&#8217;s recent popularity&#8230;.hmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Hartley</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/zonbu-green-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-531639</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Hartley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 15:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris says it's KDE, but that seems really odd though considering GNOME's recent popularity....hmmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris says it&#8217;s KDE, but that seems really odd though considering GNOME&#8217;s recent popularity&#8230;.hmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Hartley</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/zonbu-green-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-531636</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Hartley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 15:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My beta review model is arriving today (for an upcoming article), so I can tell you this much thus far:

OS: Gentoo Linux
Windows manager: Believe it is GNOME, but will know later for sure


Now if memory serves me, it uses for Portage for software management, which is command line based I believe, so it should be interesting to see how they pulled this off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My beta review model is arriving today (for an upcoming article), so I can tell you this much thus far:</p>
<p>OS: Gentoo Linux<br />
Windows manager: Believe it is GNOME, but will know later for sure</p>
<p>Now if memory serves me, it uses for Portage for software management, which is command line based I believe, so it should be interesting to see how they pulled this off.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Hartley</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/zonbu-green-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-531635</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Hartley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 15:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My beta review model is arriving today (for an upcoming article), so I can tell you this much thus far:

OS: Gentoo Linux
Windows manager: Believe it is GNOME, but will know later for sure


Now if memory serves me, it uses for Portage for software management, which is command line based I believe, so it should be interesting to see how they pulled this off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My beta review model is arriving today (for an upcoming article), so I can tell you this much thus far:</p>
<p>OS: Gentoo Linux<br />
Windows manager: Believe it is GNOME, but will know later for sure</p>
<p>Now if memory serves me, it uses for Portage for software management, which is command line based I believe, so it should be interesting to see how they pulled this off.</p>
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		<title>By: zon-no-no</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/zonbu-green-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-534057</link>
		<dc:creator>zon-no-no</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 20:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the flash aspect is worrying.  flash drives have a limited number of writes and then you need a new one.

nearly $13 a month on top of all other expenses?  i don't think so.

as a straightforward buy and with a microdrive, maybe.

sounds a lot like something microsoft would be interested in.

no way would i keep my stuff on someone else's computer.

back to the drawing board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the flash aspect is worrying.  flash drives have a limited number of writes and then you need a new one.</p>
<p>nearly $13 a month on top of all other expenses?  i don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>as a straightforward buy and with a microdrive, maybe.</p>
<p>sounds a lot like something microsoft would be interested in.</p>
<p>no way would i keep my stuff on someone else&#8217;s computer.</p>
<p>back to the drawing board.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/zonbu-green-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-534060</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 20:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If i can wipe their software ans install a copy of dsl i see potential for carpc, media pc, and all kinds of things.  however to install dsl you would have to remove the flash drive insert it into another computer and get it to install and transfer it.  No cd drive or anything like that.  Then they probably have proprietary bios that keeps you from booting off of usb.  If i could wipe it and install what i want i say its worth $100.  but because it wont boot without internet and forces me to pay $12/month no way in hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If i can wipe their software ans install a copy of dsl i see potential for carpc, media pc, and all kinds of things.  however to install dsl you would have to remove the flash drive insert it into another computer and get it to install and transfer it.  No cd drive or anything like that.  Then they probably have proprietary bios that keeps you from booting off of usb.  If i could wipe it and install what i want i say its worth $100.  but because it wont boot without internet and forces me to pay $12/month no way in hell.</p>
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		<title>By: astro</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/zonbu-green-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-534069</link>
		<dc:creator>astro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 17:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over 5 years, sums up at near 1000$  A small dell with XP or Ubuntu will cost around the same for 5 years.</description>
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