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I get invited to several events throughout the year. I was supposed to attend an event the other day at Microsoft. Unfortunately, I’ve been having issues with my own Web servers, and couldn’t go. Microsoft has been making waves with their announcement about bringing advertising to things like the Zune.

Why would we want advertising on our devices? We put up with a lot of advertising. When there was talk about putting ads into video games, I’m sure there were some negative comments. However, they are done tastefully. They aren’t in your face about it. I don’t mind the ads that litter the Xbox 360. I learn about new games this way, and get pretty good deals.

The idea is that artists can create sponsored pages, users can befriend those artists, and become targets for ads if they want to view news or check out new music. The good news: The program may include free music, to be paid by the sponsor. The bad news: When you send the artist’s info to your friends, the advertising will follow. Microsoft themselves say:

This concept of media free flowing from one form factor to another is central to our connected entertainment vision. And as it turns out, advertisers want the same thing; they want their advertising experience to follow the consumers across the three-screen experience. That’s a big reason why our advertising strategy is directly linked to this overarching Connected Entertainment vision – so we can give advertisers a way of getting a three-screen experience that connects with their audiences across all those environments and user scenarios.

People are constantly on the move, so the ability to download a movie to their Xbox and then transfer it to a PC or mobile device is highly desirable. It’s no longer about the TV or PC on their own; it’s about both plus the mobile phone or music device. The gaming console is no longer just about gaming; it’s about gaming and video. The phone is no longer just about voice; it’s about voice and search and video. And the MP3 player isn’t only about music; it’s about music and video. Consumers are demanding content that spans these different screens. It’s only natural that advertisers will want to span these three screens too.

What do you think? Wouldn’t you rather receive ads that are non-invasive? Do you think the idea is horrible? Either way, I know you have something to say on this.

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164 Comments

ads on Zune? sure Microsoft… give people more reasons to hate it. it would be a turn off. it’s like turning on your ipod/iphone and you get bombarded with ads before it loads up. if they are smart, they won’t do it.

Im going to be honest with you. Unless I get a significant discount or they offer the product free. I do not like advertising at all if it does not offer anything in return to me.

Darrell Jackson

May 23rd, 2008
at 7:30pm

Sure if the advertising is good and interesting like tech news, reviews, new computer products, Gadgets are the fastest way to see new products without looking it up on your favorite website, it will be right their on your side bar take a quick peek and go back what you where doing fast and easy, so yes I would love to see advertising on my Gadgets.

No, I’m thinking that’s a bit over the line. As if people haven’t already spent enough money to get everything else in the first place; sheesh!

I’m opposed to advertising on products I purchase unless I reap the rewards. Its disgraceful that video game prices have gone up while publishers are making money from the advertising. If I pay $250 for an MP3, I don’t want to have to put up with advertising.

If I could get the same MP3 player for $50 - $100 though, I might be willing to put up with advertisements. The day my Zune starts to display ads though is the day I buy an iPod.

I am completely with you on this. I don’t like advertising that is meant to be like “boo” and invasive and that stuff. I don’t mind advertising that goes with the flow :) Also sites that use adertising in flash boxes that go with the flow of the Layout are a good thing too.

I’d be really ticked off if I saw ads pop up on any devices I own. We already have them on the net, in newspapers, on the radio, on TV. Where are they going to draw the line? ARE they going to draw the line? If so this would be the perfect place to do so.

If its done in a tasteful way no explicit images then wft! I think we have a winner.

Monkeyintuxes

May 23rd, 2008
at 8:19pm

Personally I would not like advertising on products that is like going to a sports event and receiving a hat with a company name on the back such as the front saying the name of your favorite baseball team and the back saying something like xbox 360 “jump in”.

If i am getting something for free there is no reason to complain about advertising, i mean come on you are getting it for free. But i agree if your are paying for it and there is still advertising that is kind of annoying.

It would be okey for me as long as it is not too invasive and I could have - everyone could have - an option to turn them off. There are times that I would okey advertisements and even enjoy them, but there is also times that I want them to stay away for a while. After all advertisements could help you learn something new about what they might be advertising. Much like news. They might have new products that you might be interested. But still, on times that I just don’t want to be distured, they should back off. If they didn’t I would post that stuff on ebay and buy one that don’t post advertisements.

Chris, as you always say, it all depends on the implementation. I think small overlays over video, or something popping up on the screen while you’re listening to a song is alright on a zune or an iPod. But if it gets in the way or if it is distracting, it could be a distasteful situation.

I do think it would be cool if, for example, I was at a coffee shop or something and while I hopped on to their wifi, I received a coupon for a desert item or something to that effect.

My only issue with this is that its hard to take something that was once advertisement-free and now has advertisements…whereas if I used a product where I acknowledged the fact that I would be exposed to advertisement I wouldn’t mind it so much. Sure, sometimes ads are down right annoying, but at least I know I made the choice to use this product under those circumstances.

Have a good one.

Advertising on gadgets might seem like a dream for some advertisers, but there are many reasons that this could fail. If there were to be a hard copy advertisement on the gadget, then the person would be looking at the same ad for the life of the product. If you were to have a digital advertisement the device would have to have a wifi chip embedded only raising the price more. If there was no trip only so much of the disk space could be taken up and then the person would be seeing the same ads over and over again. In all this is a horrible idea, and when most people buy gadgets they do it because of ads, and if they know there are more ads on the product, they will most likely not buy it.

The only type of ads I’m good with are Google Ads. They aren’t annoying and they’re always relevant to the content that I’m looking at. I don’t like Ads that popup and annoy you. The type of ads that are very flashy and have annoyingly light colors like yellow! If the ads were blended in with the design and were relevant to whatever gadget/game I had, then I wouldn’t mind the ads. If the ads keep annoying me I would just figure out a way to get rid of them!

This really bothers me. I just got my mom a Zune for mother’s day because her local gym uses FM radio for the TVs so the user can tune into the audio on their headphones rather than blasting it to everyone. The zune had a built in FM-player and the ipod didn’t. My mom has had trouble learning it and i’ve spent hours on the phone helping her through it. If ads start popping up on it, changing what she has to do and adding steps to what she has to do to get to her music, she will probably get sick of it very quickly and give up.

Even on wifi portable devices have somewhat limited bandwith and limited processing capabilities and limited battery life. I don’t want my gadgets wasting any of it to download and display ads that i don’t want to see. I buy CDs and mp3s to own the music so that i can listen to it when i want to and without commercial interuption.

I listen to music from my iphone while driving through an FM modulator. I play smart and have made playlists so i don’t have to touch it much. Sometimes i want to find a song and have to browse through my entire music collection with tiny buttons while driving. This is already a pain. Stick some ads in there and it would only get worse.

The only way for ads on content to not bother me would be to limit EXCLUSIVLY it to the content it’s supporting. If i get a free ad-supported movie on the Zune device and i see an ad during that movie thats fine. If i get an ad-supported movie and i’m still seeing ads while i’m watching a movie or listening to a song that I paid for than i will have a big problem with it.

I wish microsoft would have been more clear about how they plan to implement this. I mean if they want to just stick ads all over even during the playback of content a user bought somewhere else all they would have to do is put “by downloading this software update you agree to have ads” hidden in the EULA of the next update to the zune software and there won’t be anything anyone can do about it if they want their device to stay up-to-date.

There are just too many unanswered questions with this announcement. From past experience I just don’t trust microsoft to keep the end user’s wants and needs in mind when there is ca$h out there…

I’m not entirely sure why advertisements done tastefully on devices would be a huge deal if the companies producing the device used the money they received to lower the cost, thus benefiting the consumer.Though, I could see how the companies producing the device could use the advertising money they received for a profit of their own, thus keeping the price of their product high and making much more money for themselves.

Boredcollegekid

May 23rd, 2008
at 10:12pm

Personally I don’t like Ads on anything, thats why I love ad block plus. While ads are a pain you do come to get use to them. truly its all about how the site/device implements the ads. too in your face and no one is gonna like them. the more minimal the better. thats why I love google adsense. anyway I hope ads don’t come to devices I use too soon

I never liked the Zune in the first place, and the idea that they want to force advertising on you again, after you’re already buying the product, and buying the music to go with it, seems far too in-your-face if you ask me. I’ll stick with my Sansa thank you.

Chris,

There is absolutely no way I would tolerate having advertisements on my iPod or Zune. I would only allow it if I was either getting payed, or maybe the music that I downloaded/bought would be of DRM. I think that it would be fair. I can distribute that song to all of my friends, but they would have to watch/see the advertisements.

I don’t like it though when companies force the user to view advertisements. That, in my opinion, is just wrong. They should give the user an incentive, and the user (at least not me) wouldn’t mind.

That is all.

No, you bought the device for your enjoyment, why would they put advertisements on it?? It’s yours now, not theirs. Devices like that should be personal.

I think the idea is awful. I already hate all the advertisements we are bombarded by wherever go or look. We have advertisement everywhere nowadays and I would prefer to keep my own personal gadgets advertisement free for as long as possible. I agree the Xbox 360 advertisements are tasteful and subtle, but I would still like to have no advertising on my personal belongings.

if dont disturbing me, maybe even the advertising could help… for example, if those ads in a game makes more money to the servers where u play, and the GMs use that money to tune up the servers and make better game experience ok, i agree and can “eat” all the advertising u wanna put there…

:p

From the view of the advertiser ,is good since their advertisment will flow over to everyone who listen those music or video. But for the audience…may not… so if you wanna listen music /movie which dont have advertisment buy the original. hehehe that could be sounds good for the musician and moviemarker since nowdays every1 FREE download music more….entertainment field need income from sponsor(advertiser) too.

Tomek Chrzczonowicz

May 24th, 2008
at 4:09am

Hey Chris,

There’s a website http://www.jamendo.com that host free music and sponsored by non-intrusive GoogleAds that lets you share and doesn’t make those ads follow you.

There’s also Qtrax that distributes ad-sponsored content, but it comes with very restrictive DRM.

As far as Microsoft’s statements are concerned:

“This concept of media free flowing from one form factor to another is central to our connected entertainment vision”

“People are constantly on the move, so the ability to download a movie to their Xbox and then transfer it to a PC or mobile device is highly desirable”

I’d say that those guys at Microsoft got quite a nerve to say something like this.
It’s by no means a new vision or concept, as people always wanted to play their media on any device they have, but Microsoft, by embracing DRM, sides with the labels and publishing corporations to prevent users from doing precisely that thing.
If they really wanted their users to acces their media from any device they want, they wouldn’t have come up with the DRM implementations in the first place, let alone their proprietary formats. All they woud have to do is to simply remove those harming restrictions and boycot the media corporations that try to enforce them.

And when they make those statements, they don’t really mean all devices, they mean their OWN devices, i.e. Zune, Windows Mobile, Xboxes and Windows PCs.

You said that this program ‘may’ include free music to be ad-sponsored.

So what they really want is that you not only _pay_ for _DRM-infested_ content which that you can _only move between selected (their) devices and applications _ and you’re forced to view the ads before acessing the content you’ve already paid for? Sounds like there’s no bargain for the consumer, really…

I guess that Microsoft would be far better off in the long run selling their customers what they really want and listening to their feedback, rather than making fun of themselevs with those ‘visions’ that are either borrowed from someone else or deal with subjugating the users and taking away their freedoms.

Adverts on gadgets at a first glance sounds like a terrible idea. I know that the first time I ever heard of this, I strayed away from such products.. yet now, my primary gadget, my most used gadget is filled with advertising.. This gadget is my phone. I live in the UK and am only 17 years old, I don’t have a vast amount of money and when I heard of a phone company giving FREE Minutes and FREE Texts with no monthly payment, I was interested immediately. The company Blyk (www.blyk.co.uk) offers free service for nothing in return, the only down side, which i don’t even know if you can call a down side), is that i receive between 2 and 3 texts a day advertising products. These products are often relevant to me, as when you sign up you choose what kind of ads you wish to receive, and with more interest the company gets, the more choice you have of what to be shown, not to mention the special offers I also receive and free information on services such as films! Its a really nice system, and being as most teenagers are.. low on money, its a really nice idea that just relies on advertising. I’m definitely not complaining, but, who would?

A) Gadgets = Microsoft.. so no right there.

B) I thought the whole idea of these mini apps was to make it easier to get good information in a small and compact, yet “pretty” package right on your desktop? With advertising, I think that would take away the whole thing from that. Thats like having ads on Google, it just doesn’t work.

I think advertising is a good thing. As you say it allows people to get aware of new things. I’m happy to see advertising here and there and sometimes even click it as long as it’s not stopping me from doing what I want to do.

For example: A popup will jump to the front of what I’m doing which is annoying cause before I can continue where I want to go I’ll need to close it.

Advertising on gadgets would be ok if it would reduce costs of the product and doesn’t intervene with the use of it. If I get a free flash drive but have to wait for an advert to play everytime I plug it in I’m probably not going to use it since it’ll stop me from moving files from one location to another quickly.

Conclusion: I don’t mind it being visible, as long as it doesn’t stop me from doing what I want to do.

i don’t have problems with that concept… as long as it doesn’t get in the way, and we get something in return like freebies.

So those corporate people found another way to squeeze money out of us? If you buy the product, it’s yours, no real reason to advertise on it. However, computers are an exception, because the Internet is basically a free thing, your just paying to connect to it. Hmm, I think I’m losing track of what I’m saying. Anyways, I disagree, it’s only another way Microsoft is making money. If I could, I’d switch to a Mac or Linux full time, but Microsoft has pulled many other software and game companies into there trap.

Ah yes, another example, if you have a Wii, Nintendo does not advertise on it. The closest thing to advertisements on the Wii is the non-controllable ads on the Internet Channel.

Microsoft gets enough money, why give them more?

I cant stand the ads on xbox live! Wherever you look there is a new game or a new download pack. I wish you had the option of selecting the genre of ads you want or no ads at all. But advertising ads on the Zune is absolutely ridiculous.

advertising on things like that would suck!! Ok your booting up your zune, you first get a ****-load of advertisements until you finally can do whatever you want to do with your zune. If they would make this they should make a on and off function with it too. But when that happens no one will turn it on eventually.

One thing is sure Microsoft must make his products cheaper when putting advertisements on it or they should give you MSpoints for every add from which you can buy music.

I wouldn’t mind if they offered advertising with music (providing the song is free) by using the advertisers logo as the album art. I wouldn’t want it to chang ethe title of the songs or anything.
EX: Song title-sponsored by pizzaCO

I personally would embrace an advertisement model that lowered the cost of the technology. Think about the person on a budget, who finally saves enough money to purchase a large capacity ipod or a zune, only to learn that their device is now obsolete because of a newer model.

For those that money is not a major concern let them pay and be ad free. However for those who are struggling an ad based service/device that can lower the price of the product can be win win situation for both the consumer and commerce.

I do not mind advertising on TV, radio or even the internet that how the bills are paid. However, when it comes to the gadgets that I pay the bills on, I hate advertising. There is no reason why I should have to pay for a CD player or MP3 player that has advertising on it. I am constantly getting advertising on my cell through the txt messaging and it makes me mad because every time I receive a message it charges who(me) and I am paying for the service I receive why should I have to pay twice.

Advertising is a sticky subject with me. I feel that if you pay for a product one of the things you are paying for is freedom for advertising. If I buy an MP3 then the ads have worked and who ever is selling it shoud enjoy the sucess of the advertising and not force more ads down our snouts.

Now on the other hand if I am getting something for free I can accept some overt advertising in order to enjoy the product and allow the provider to continue to exist.

I own an Archos 605 and enjoy it. I purchase my music and video so that I do not have to deal with advertising. It is a trade off that I accept for the greater enjoyment of my music and video. I would be very unhappy if I paid for music and had to have the flow of my music interupted by an ad.

I don’t mind relevant ads. Especially if it’s non intrusive. (off to the side) I don’t like the idea of it transferring automatically to another device I already own. I understand the need for advertising. However if I’ve payed for the product I should have the option of removing the advertising after seeing it once. Kind of like the “junk” ads you get inside the video/game discs we purchase. I look through it quickly, discard most if not all of it, and keep what interests me. That seems to me to be the best option. Just my nickels worth.

Keep up the good work Chris!

Cheers,
JD

I would accept it if they’re non-invasive as you mentioned.
The idea isn’t horrible as long as we get some good free content along with it!
I wouldn’t mind say watching/listening to around 10s of an ad for that new mp3 :)

Jake Scheatzle

May 24th, 2008
at 12:38pm

Advertisements on a music player isnt right
But you do see them in viideo games all the time
I fell as if it makes the game more real,, the fake ads just lok awkward
I was just playing GH3 and i saw a add for playoffs, guessing it was last yr but still
But i mean advertiisements on my iPhone, or on my LG Shine would just make me mad
Its kinda in your face that way
Like your google ads dont bother me they are small and dont get in the way
But if a whole page was useless ads, then yea itd be bothersome

As long as the content is free, I don’t mind ads at all. But when you pay for a service and then annoying ads are thrown in your face, then I have a problem with it.

ThrownFromHell

May 24th, 2008
at 12:50pm

I hate advertising on side of web pages and would hate is they ended up on my gadgets.

ThrownFromHell

May 24th, 2008
at 12:52pm

I hate Advertising on sides of Web pages and would hate is they ended up on my gadgets.

HECK NO!
If I made my own gadget I’d never include advertising that I wouldn’t personally want.
Microsoft is outrageous. As if their Internet Explorer didn’t do a worst job at advertisements, they’re even flooding ZUNES with them!! ARGH!!
(Exactly why I like those smaller portable media player companies, no invasive things :D)

Hmm..well the thought about having your ad on your product is pretty much obvious.

I think that its pretty much a good idea since by this we are “spreading the word” of the organisation/company/corporation/ or whatever it is. I mean just imagine if you didn’t have those “Developed at … “. The companies popularity would be half the amount of what it is.
And what about updates? Nothing is wrong with putting up a ad saying a new product is out on your product.

I think that this is a really good idea and that it should be more often used. Why don’t you use it Chris? hehe

Personally, I wouldn’t mind 1 or 2 advertisements on something, but anything more than that is horrible in my opinion. I think Microsoft are making a big mistake by placing ads on Zune’s. Only the future will tell if they went right or wrong. I’ve only ever used Internet Explorer once, I switched to Safari not long after, so I don’t know what the ads are like on IE. I also do not have any ad-blocking plugin or anything like that on my Safari.

Personally, I don’t use Windows Vista, but I do use Yahoo Widgets, so I know how useful and fun Gadgets or Widgets or whatever you want to call those tiny little apps on your desktop. Anyway, If there were ads on my Widgets, I would be infuriated. I absolutely hate ads. They totally murder the user interface.

I must agree with vanrun, ads can be noisy, flashing and some time down right annoying and in the way.

C.S. McClendon

May 24th, 2008
at 6:47pm

Would I accept a free media player with someone else’s logo on it? Of course! Would I pay for that same player? It depends on the logo and whether I support the company, but then that goes for any merch. For instance I have no problem with the Quickie logo on the back of my wheel chair, but at the same time you could not pay me to put a John McCain bumper sticker on my spoke protectors. My general opinion on ads however, is that so long as they are discrete, not in anyway harmful to my equipment, and don’t consist of pop up windows of any shape or form, I have no issue, personally I find the audio streaming adds annoying, but thats because they are loud and I cant see to find the shut off button so they don’t interfere with the near constant stream of audio from my pc. If their quiet and targeted, great, go for it!

I don’t think I’d mind if done non-evasively. But I’d rather they werent on there. We’re so baraged by them as it is.

im not so sure about this one.. i mean there is so much advertising every where else its kinda would be like give me a break buttt also it would be a good way to things out there since tech is so today everyones using things like the ipod and zune ..then again i think if it were to happen it would be overwhelming because it wouldnt be just a few advertisements ..u know monkey see monkey do :)

There is so much adavatising out there they have to find new ways of advatising products to us and this way now is through out games consoles and portable media players they will try to put a advert any where these days. But all advatising is not bad its good if you get a FREE mp3 palyer just with somebodys logo on it as advatising!

I use adblock plus in firefox which blocks mos ads. However I do allow ads for some websites that I think deserver some money. Not that that is many…

Thanks for explaining that to me. I had no idea! (stating the ******* obvious)

I design icons for one reason… to make the user interface look nicer and I spend alot of time getting my OS to look how I want it, so no ads for me please. I don’t mind ads on the web so long as they’re not invasive to my web-going experience, but on my devices or in my OS… then I start getting angry. Maybe it’s because I’m not the type to see ads and get influenced by those ads, I buy what I want, where and when I want… I don’t need an add to tell me about it. That’s just my opinion.

use fire fox when on the web with adblocker when watching tv leave the room when ads come on just ignore them

insulting my intelligence most tv commercials do this

but if they are for something free i cant disagree with that like you said go with the flow and non intrusive

or on web sites that are free i will click the ads if i find it use full or donate

The ad argument is totally flawed because companies that make ads are looking to make money, BOTTOM LINE, not give you content you find “agreeable.” If I buy a Zune (I use an ipod) and pay for my music, then God**mit I don’t want ads inturrupting my music while I’m running or cutting the yard…are you kidding me? If you pay for a service, there should be no ads…end of story.

It seems that if consumers want to pay a lower price for something or even get it for free it is fair for the producer to expect a profit by from some other means. I would have little problem listen to and seeing ads on something as long as the ads where targeted and/or short and non-invasive. I do it all the time online be it watching Chris’ Stream, reading blogs, watching tv shows, or pretty much any free service online (excluding wikipedia).

If my portable MP3 player wants to analyze by music and listen habits and recommend new artist that I might like that would be great. I really see that as a service in and of itself.

I wouldn’t accept any type of advertisements on my gadgets. The USA is too commercial already. Not just the USA, the world is. One thing I hate the most is when your just getting into this serious drama, then it suddenly cuts off to give you a message about the latest design of tooth brush…… I’m like “Bring back my flick!!!!!!!!!!!!”

How can you call yourself a PC wiz and own a Mac?

If it meant that the price of the gadget fell, then I’m all for it, as long as it’s done in moderation (e.g. I wouldn’t be fond of a red and yellow McDonalds camera).

I did the 3 steps :P

Some people don’t actually switch from PC to Mac or vice versa… it’s more like adding to the collection. I’m one of those people. And now that Macs can run Windows natively as well, why not have both? Best of all worlds…

I would jump ahead and shout “absolutely not”!

But then I read it and thought about the subject and the best I could come up with was still “I wouldn’t like it, it’s absolutely undesirable in any possible way, but, if done VERY well, I could live with it if there was no other way”.

The problem is, it’s never well-done. Companies don’t want to sell music (much less art), they want to sell looks, and I can’t go with that. Given a gadget that comes with well-done, top-class advertisement and one that comes with nothing added, I’d go with the second choice in any possible scenario, even if I had to pay a little more for it. I’d turn for new music in other places.

I think it’s unfair for a company to expect someone who’s already purchasing their products to put up with ads. Unfortunately in a capitalistic society one must grow accustomed to such compromises for quality products. But I agree, I’d rather that companies tone down on the greed nob and just deal with the gross sums of money they already rake in.

most definitely if I am listening to my music and an ad interrupts that would piss me off so much I would throw my Ipod. It is bad enough we have to look at commercials on TV, we don’t need them on our mp3 players or consoles.

Ads in my devices…sure, why not..they’re in my video games already… if it means devices will get cheaper, sure, as long as it’s an mp3 player and i don’t have to listen to the ads. Maybe like xbox 360 which comes w/ **** on the drive, perhaps a pmp w/ some ad videos, i wouldn’t mind that…as long as i can delete them. I don’t mind ads, it’s the annoying ones you can’t skip i hate.

What does Chris do for a living? I’ve always wondered.

How can U call urself a COMPUTER wizz without using all the OS’s ?

Surely if u want to be Great with computers u know: Windows, Mac, and Linux :P

Only if and a big IF, “they” gave me something at a greatly reduced price aka free, then I could tolerate it.

*sigh*

What form of media isn’t blocked out by ads?! *stares at all the ads on this page*

My cell phone/mp3 player is safe, for now, from such dog-piling and I won’t sit still for other wise.

I have NEVER benefited from an advertisement that wasn’t on TV…I find it ALL useless.

usurperking1711

May 25th, 2008
at 10:27pm

Ads would be very annoying on a zune/ipod i cant even take there being ads on the 360. Then again its a quick way to make a dollar and that all they care about.

If its free and not always in the way then thats fine. I didn’t have a problem with them in the video games so yeah why not. They have only put advertisements on every single website, street, tv show, movies, so yeah sure im real used to it by now. If they can find another way to convince me to buy their product or whatever then yeah why not.

Did anybody even do their research on this topic. I guess not. The adds are OPTIONAL!!! You have can choose if you want them or not, and they don’t ever display on the device itself, just on the software and on the zune social. So yeah, everybody before me, do your research before posting and making yourself look stupid.

http://zuneinsider.com/archive/2008/05/21/quick-note-on-ads-in-zune-social.aspx

I wouldn’t support advertising on my gadgets at all.they have other places to do that but not on my gadgets.

FREE MUSIC,
WOOOOOOH
EDIT THE ADVERT OUT if Its oN THE TRACT

Why Not??? If i receive something that will overall ease the burden of the ownership of my device, then why should I have any problem? I am already signed up to a service that will pay me for receiving SMS advertisements. my average mobile bill is around 800 INR. This service pays me an average of 300-400 INR bucks! See the advantage? And that too for receiving free sms’s! If the advertisers could find a non intrusive way to beam ads to say my Zune or my phone then I have no issue as long as it Benefits me! :D

Chris does know them all. He runs Windows on his Mac. He just prefers Macs more.

Ahem… advertising on my gadgets is about as stupid as the Powerade vending machines in Enter the Matrix… BEYOND STUPID!

I don’t even use sidebar anymore. Got bored with it after a week. :(

Ahh… I just typed that in and posted it right before you mentioned Zune. Thought you meant gadgets in the sidebar. My bad. They did this with Counter-Strike 1.6. They advertised other similar games offered on Steam. I don’t even notice the ads on the wall.

Advertising would make me avoid them at all costs. If I had advertising anywhere on my desktop I’d drop Windows like the bad habit it is.

“But you know they’re put on billboards” and so on.

Yeah and I hate being bombarded with them while I’m out in public areas too. I’ve gotten to the point where I avoid all companies that are involved with invasive advertising.

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I believe that ads should not be on things that you pay for, unless the price is lower. For example, if you pay $11.88 for the MP3 version of a full album (12 songs at $0.99), then it shouldn’t have any advertising. But if you are willing to have advertising put it, it should cost $10.00 ($0.833 per song).

I have nothing against advertising being used in multimedia as long as the price that a consumer pays is lower because of it.

I think the idea of advertising is alright, I have been playing free games that use advertising to make their services free, I am not complaining. As long as it is free, I am perfectly fine with it.

Great post Chris!

It would be fair if the company just lowers the cost of the product. That and the amount of ads should moderated, so that it won’t interfere with the use of the product

Why don’t we feel the same way about spam? Why are we desensitized to corporations in our face all the time, yet we detest spammers? What’s the difference?

Ubiquitous ads and corporate marketing basically invade every aspect of our lives, EVERYWHERE we go, all the time, shaping who we are. It’s worse than the spam that clogs my inbox daily.

Corporate interests would lock down the Internet if they could, denying access and clogging bandwidth with their advertising. Why do we tolerate it???

Ok now, why would Microsoft want to bombard us with more advertisements that make things uneasy for us. We have enough ads, but why put it on the things we use most frequently. Well it could help by letting us know what’s new or bargains on items, but really. It’s either helpful or not. We will have to wait and see what the will do next…

That would be really annoying. In the US and other countries there is at least some regulations about advertising and people can even sue or complain if they are getting annoying to appropriate authority.

Here we don’t have any regulatory authority or watch dog for advertisements and the result is advertising SMS’s to our cell phones. The Operator it self sends messages sometimes which can be really annoying, who wants to receive the same message their telling new feature, like 4 times a day?

If this Ads on Gadget thing ever reaches us, lol, I imagine it would be a nightmare…..

Haha… no way. Advertising just saturates everything these days - the LAST place I want to see it is on my Desktop 24/7. I’m so tired of looking at advertisement after advertisement everywhere my head turns when I’m not in my house! I can’t imagine have to do so inside of my house as well! :)

Heck if they going give something useful for free why not ad it. Really free is good when it done rigth.

Hello,

No, I do not think I would accept advertising on digital music player, cellular phone or other mobile devices. I typically ignore ads, or if they become invasive, take active means to block them.

Given the storage and bandwidth available to such small devices, the amount of space consumed is likely to be much greater than on a desktop computer and cost of downloading advertisements (or uploading the results of customer monitoring) is likely to be born by the consumer, I think this is a very unwise idea.

Regards,

Aryeh Goretsky

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I would not mind advertisements on paid gadgets or services as long as they did not get in my way or change my experience. As Chris said, the xBox360 ads are ok, they show us what video games are comming out, this is helpful information. On paid services, expect ads, these are ok regardless if they are in the way, it is free, what do you expect?

I hope to see fewer ads on paid services though, but for now, they are not in the way or harming me and my experience.

Man im bored of youtube im gonna go play rock band and listen to Metallica guys!

The problem is, it’s never well-done. Companies don’t want to sell music (much less art), they want to sell looks, and I can’t go with that. Given a gadget that comes with well-done, top-class advertisement and one that comes with nothing added, I’d go with the second choice in any possible scenario, even if I had to pay a little more for it. I’d turn for new music in other places.

If the advertisements were non-intrusive and didn’t interfere with the overall experience, I wouldn’t object to them.

If companies want to put more aggressive ads in their devices, they need to bring the prices down accordingly. It would be unfair for the consumer to deal with an ad-filled iPhone after shelling out $400. That’s a lot of money for any mobile device! Now if the iPhone cost $200 and came with ads, that would be more reasonable. So long as there is a way to upgrade away from the advertisements later down the road.

If it makes our gadgets cheaper and the ads pertain to something the consumer would be interested in, I wouldn’t be against this.

because we get irrelevant ads like male enhancement products. when you like a product or a website for example, you may check the box that says “send me updates” because the information pertains to you. if the ads are of useful information, why not?

To tell you the truth. I would indeed mind. For one, don’t these companies do enough advertising on commercials, pop up ads etc…. Second, on an ipod, come on, no one would really pay attention, it really does draw the line.

Do they really have ads on the Zune? That is pretty ridiculous. For me, advertisement spell CHEAP if they are bundled with another product. Just watch. Microsoft will start bundling ad-ware into Windows.

There are plenty of ways to get your advertising out there, and bundling it with a $300 device is not one of them!

I think it depends on how the advertising is used. If it is affecting the experience of the device, than I would certainly not want advertising. But, If it is not in my way, I’d be willing to compromise.

If it was a free gadget then yah advertise all u want but if it is one u paid for and its noticable or in your face i would probably just not buy the product or find some way to take it off. Some people were talking about games having advertising and stuff i think thats perfectly ok bc as you said its not like in ur face or anything and i think it blinds in more. Sometimes it actually makes the game look more realistic .

If they offer an additional version of things for free or discounted prices, but has un-removable ads, I am all for it.

It is very annoying for me the spam that I receive on e-mail every day with a lot of advertising.I wouldn’t like at all if on my gadgets I would receive things like advertising.Then I would probably build my own gadget :)

I only agree with this if they lower their price. I’ m not going to pay lots of money to see some advertisements…

Afcourse there’s still a way that most people don’t dislike. Like in-game advertisements…

Advertising on multi-media platforms and gadgets, has been in the past, present, and it’s going to most defiantly in the future. Chris is right its not going away, but there are some enjoying/invasive ads. For me I don’t really care about ads, because safari, google, opendns blocks those enjoying/invasive ads. Which is mostly adware. I know many people that make good money on google ad sense on there website. Like Chris for an example, he makes great content on his website for free and makes money on ads. Well thanks for this review..

if microsoft gives me a free zune then i welcome microsoft ads, as long as it is not male enhancers or bogus lotteries, it may be fine for a while but the spam will follow, ads i have no interest in would be bad, so there needs to be ‘transparency’ as chris would say, if i can put up with ads on tv then zune ads are fine, but if i need to pay for ANYTHING, then the deal is off, NO DEAL!

I think that if Microsoft want’s to put advertising on songs to get free music, there is only one real way for that to be accomplished. I wouldn’t want to be seeing things pop up in between songs on a playlist, but i think if they used the advertisers logo as the album artwork, it wouldn’t interfere with the song’s info, and it would still get seen a majority of the time when a song is sorted through or played.

I don’t think I would like having advertisements on my gadgets, I’m not to fond of them to tell you the truth.

Advertisements draw your attention away from the gadget itself and thus making you bored with it. I just want to enjoy my gadgets the way they are and actually have fun with them!

Well, who says no to free stuff, not me, if it isn’t too annoying then no problem, but i payed for the thing and it would annoy me then no way man, there are to many pop up ads at the internet as it is, ads on billboards in games are ok because it’s something that are in real life too ad they make it pretty discrete too.

Brady (Computer|Nerd)

May 28th, 2008
at 5:57pm

Truthfully, as long as the ads aren’t distracting and they improve the ease of the product, I think that putting advertisements on these devices would be perfectly fine.

When I listen to free podcasts on my MP3 player I usually have a few short ads to listen to. Same thing on HULU. I don’t mind because someone has to pay the people that do these free things for us. If I am not interested in the ad I just daydream about something else.

I agree, I wouldn’t mind as long as it was done tastefully. I think most people don’t really mind an ad here and there as long as it doesn’t get in the way of the user completing the tasks that they are trying to complete. So I say that I would accept them with open arms as long as I can do what I need to do !

Good thing I have an iPod eh?

But as far as ads go on my Xbox 360, they are done very well. I mean sure, they show some stuff on MORE GAMES, which is sometimes great, but even some ads in games are done well, and suck you into the game more.

Imagine Bioshock: Every time you die you come out of a Happy Meal container, and the powers you inject into your system are actually milkshakes. Not exactly tasteful, although I must say I’d laugh my pants off if that were to happen. Stuff like billboards is fine, but nothing like having to view an entire page before viewing the content you were actually looking for.

I am ok with the concept of Removable/uninstallable advertising in or on paid-for gadgets - heck, its this concept that helps drive, and keep, the price of laptops and desktops down, all those bundled advertisement/trial-ware items - its advertising and it can be used to offset consumer level costs. Are they annoying? not so long as they are relevant, there may be an offer of interest - if not, well, you saw their product, they got their moneys worth (for brand recognition even if not a sale) and you save a few bucks on your purchase of the main item.

I think on Paid-for product/content/items it should have the option to be Fully removed - but I see no downside to having it there if it benefits the consumer through lower prices, and is relevant to the product it is appearing with.

I would take a FREE product with advertising without thinking twice - it’s free to your wallet, but there is no such thing as a free lunch so the ads are the price you pay to have the product, pretty fair. No down side.

Think of how many people advertise every day without complaint - wearing their nike swoosh covered shoes, abercrombie labeled shirts - advertising is part of life. I adblock in firefox as much as the next guy (though I sometimes wrestle with myself over that decision depending on the site I am at) - but advertising has its place, I just don’t want the equivelant of a ‘cold call’ ad in my face - it needs to have relevance to the location/product/situation.

to accept ads or not to accept ads??? do you really have to ask?? if microsoft gives me a free zune then i welcome microsoft ads, as long as it is not male enhancers or bogus lotteries, it may be fine for a while but the spam will follow, ads i have no interest in would be bad, so there needs to be ‘transparency’ as chris would say, if i can put up with ads on tv then zune ads are fine, but if i need to pay for ANYTHING, then the deal is off, NO DEAL! If i have to buy i zune i am paying for it, it is mine and ADS ARE NOT WELCOME!

Give me a free computer and i will takes ads instead of wallpaper! How is that for an awesome idea, if we split the proceeds, then i bet lockergnome can even brand the software and or the pc itself!! DEAL!! OR NO DEAL!?!

Advertising is okay when it shows advertisments either relating to your personal interests or to the content that you downloaded, in fact there were ads that helped me remember things that I wanted to get or things that I never heard of but because of that ad I became interested in it. However, if there are ads like that Smiling Bob ad or a Car ad I’d prefer if it wasn’t on there because I’m not interested in either of those at all.

While I know that advertising is a necessity, I think that companies need to draw the line when it comes to ad placement. If a device is yours, as in you paid for it with your own money, than you should not be bombarded with ads. Even if they are “tasteful”.

However, if you can get a device for free, on an “ad supported” basis, that’s a different story. I’m all for free hardware!

I think that if the product you were buying was at a reduced price or free, I would go for it. Like Chris was saying, if an artist released a song that was free with ads, you wouldn’t mind because you got it for free. If you paid for it fair and square, though, you might get upset.

I would totally accept some advertising on my gadgets in 1 condition, that the gadget will cost much less, for example, if the PSP is getting some adverts in it, it would be much better if it would cost $99.99 instead of $169.99 am I right?

I really don’t want the ads on the device and I’ll give you an example why. My cable box has “TV Guide” as the directory service. I am paying for the cable service and the monthly box fee yet I have to not only look at the ads at the bottom of the guide when I hit the button, but it also eats up a row of what should be a TV listing. What the hell!! I have a feeling the “Honeymoon” will be over for this before we know it. Remeber when XM had NO ads and they bragged about it!!!!

Ads in games are one thing, but I wouldn’t want companies advertising on my desktop. Many advertisments are ugly, and take up space, and if you have a small monitor then its valuable space.

If you provide decent content free of charge, I am more than willing to accept some sort of advertisement in order to consume it. I understand that content providers must have a way to keep providing high quality content to their readers/subscribers.

I think microsoft is not able to find any other way to beat google in ads.
I really don’t like this because first of all our zunes are cute and they will be small having small screens, and the thing we like is we are able to see everything clearly, but if ads come it will really become rubbish.

I am huge fan of Bill Gates and microsoft because of the hard work that he does and slso social contribution that he is doing but I think microsoft should not do this with zunes.

Of course not.
But, I will accept it if I am paid when clicking on that ad. :))

Yeah, if it’s just like informationof the new album, I will happily accept it, and I will click it, and enjoy transferring the music data to my iPod and listen it on the way.

But not in DS & PSP. I will blame them if an ad appearing in the middle of the game.

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Yes, I belive I would Like to recieve advertisments on my gadgets, but i wouldn’t if they would begin to harass me. If there were just a few every now then, that would be fine.

Absoultely NOT! We have so much advertising as it is all over the place that the one last place I really DON’T need it is on my desktop in front of me all day long!

PERIOD!!

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ahem! not only no, but he** no! Look this is not the minority report movie. Adverts are everywhere , but tell me when its a good idea to advertise on a gadget you just bought! Yes the federal government does this with ad campaigns to bolster us car sale for someone that all ready owns a car built in the USA. To me is a waste of time and money. having ads on a gadget will just get a hack to remove the ads or opt to buy another product without ads in it. That being said it could mean retailers have a premium attached to get a gadget without ads versus the cheaper or free version of the gadget with ads. Sorry I will shop elsewhere!

I wouldn’t accept advertising on gadgets, it would drive me nuts, mad, crazy…… What i like is just a simple gadget easy to use and neat but not some kinda flashing ad. I don’t understand why they so want to but ad’s everywhere, well i understand that money money money and money but what about the people who would like to use that stuff? aagh

The technology industry really needs to find a way to monetise services without going cap in hand to the advertising industry.

The path some of the advertising systems are taking lead to monstrous abuses of privacy and there is still very little tangiable benefits - how many people do you know that have clicked on any adverts that litter a site without that click having been an accident?

How many of you will buy a product based souly on its advertising?

It’s about time we as a society weened ourselves from the advertising teet as a means to fund our activities.

I seriously hate hardware that is made to restrict humans, isn’t technologie there to make is more capable of things ??

i guess i just stated why Zune is a failed product :)

as will all public areas to rent or buy for example movies just vanish because of the internet easy access thus making it less easy to get things quick…… and then piracy comes in.

On the other hand if they download it and still pay for it after they liked it then it will be fine.

advertising on gadgets would probably make people ignore that peticular gadget and use something else, unless that gadget is superior in all other aspects. it would be a turnoff for at least me though.

Like Chris said I hate ads that are right in your face. But like the youtube ad (if you count it) or the ustream ad (again if you count it) are well done and in their appropriate place. I think there should be an option to pay more for t.v. with no commercials.

I think that back in the old days when tv’s were new gadgets people must have ranted about advertisements on their gadget aka tv but now its the norm i think that having ads on your ipod or zune will also soon be the norm.

I wouldn’t mind having advertising on my devices, as long as they don’t fill the screen and are long, as this can be annoying when you just want to listen to music. But, if the adverts are videos, there is a problem, because if it is on a computer, it just streams from the Internet, but if it is on an MP3 player, the video will take up valuable memory, in which you could store other music.

It needs to have some thought and fine tuning.

Here we are with Microsoft in a bad position and apple getting bigger and hanging over there heads, and now Microsoft is trying to kill themselves by ruining peoples user interface with ads, come on Microsoft GET A GRIP!

We already have branding on mobile phones of service providers. If they start branding people will find ways to remove it. Like how people unbrand mobile phones by reflashing it. I can see it getting annoying if it filled half the screen or something but I wouldnt find a small logo or something like on the live stream. Maybe a little smaller.

advertising can be tolerable, depending how its done. if i have an xbox hockey game for example, and there are ads on the sideboards or on the scoreboard, they look more natural, and are ok. but if theyre more in your face like a pop up or commercial, i have a HUGE problem with that. I fully understand why advertiser want to span these things, and they can get away with it if they do it right.

I don’t like the idea of ads on anything I buy… I deal with ads on other’s websites, TV channels, magazines, and newspapers because I don’t own them. They can do as they please. But, if I am paying money out of my pocket for something I don’t want to deal with having to look at ads. I’m a gamer and EA decided to add ads to one of the new maps for BF2. Everyone griped and complained even though they were on the billboards. To be honest it took away some of the realism. If they are willing to hand me a free product that has their ad on it fine but if I pay for it no ads please.

Honestly, right now there is advertising on gadgets. Apple products sport apple logos and so on. So if I could get a product cheaper if it includes advertisements: sure I would.

Personally, i’ve been totally turned off to Advertisements. I mean like, it takes A LOT to get my attention when it comes to games, web, and tv. But, c’mon, Advertisement is a BIG BUSINESS, you get rid of it, and people loose money. You know how many ppl pay attention to Ads, and yet, a lot of sites get loads of money for the ads, that’s just AWESOME, which because the Web is my main source of income, i’m not complaining. thanks for listening

agreeing with chris, don’t see the issue, as long as it’s clean

I would be fine with a little bit of advertising. But they shouldnt go too far with it, as people will start to get very annoyed about the number of ads present. I also think that the ads should in no way interrupt what you are doing and force you to go around. Those types of ads bug the crud out of me :)

Like you said Chris, if they were modest , then yes. But if they are trying to make the gadget just an add then no!

I think i would accept advertising to a certain degree, i think having it like in video games is great but not like ad’s on the internet, if it’s free and works, no problem.

Christopher Coleman

May 29th, 2008
at 2:31pm

Depends upon what the device is. As stated above, ads on my 360 or PS3 about gaming and gaming prodcuts is ok. However, If I saw an ad on my iPod Touch, I would be so pissed. Something like that interupting my songs and videos would be inexcusable. then again, if Apple were to recompensate me with say QUALITY free songs from the Itunes store…well it has possibilities.

I think that if you are using a service of that companies device, for example Xbox Live and Xbox 360, companies should be allowed to advertise. However, if you are using a device off line, you should not be bothered by advertising. In most cases it’s your device and your property, so you should not be bothered off line.

I agree, if its free, then i want ads

I wouldnt be a big fan of it but if they were to include adds in something like a Zune or a iPod a way to put them in is to show the adds in the background while your tunes play. But they have to be adds that interest the person for example if I had to see the adds i would prefer to have Tech and Sports adds. Also some Aviation adds. Stories about tech products and stuff like that. But thats if they were to include them but i would want the adds out.

I am so sick of advertisements that if I seen one on a gadget I would probably break it. It is of great frustration even now, when I play a game and see the nVidia logo everywhere. Advertising has its own place, and thats on billboards and commercials. If it is an ad for something that would make the product better, I wouldn’t mind, but some of these ads are getting pathetic.

I wouldn’t mind it. Just as long as it doesnt run too long or interfere with the widget or anything else. A lot of small companies could benefit from this. I believe that larger companies should be left out of widget advertising.

I have absolutely no problem with advertising on devices as long as the overall cost of buy/owning them is less than it would be otherwise. For example, if I could get a Zune for $20-$50 off if it had advertising, I would do it, but if the price stayed the same I would be a bit apprehensive about buying said product.

It depends on what type of gadget it is. If it’s, I don’t know, a free (or very cheap yet high quality) mouse that every time I plug it in it shows me a 15 second video or an ad in a window, I won’t have any problem at all. If it’s on my iPod though… no, thanks. I wouldn’t want 15 second ads in between my songs.

i would accept advertising on my gadgets if it would bring in more profit to me but if it wasnt a considerable amount then and the advertising was ugly then i wouldnt

I wouldn’t want to see ads on something that I have to pay for. If it’s free, that’s a different story, especially if the advertising is low-key and relevant.

I think ads on Gadgets should be much the same as lockergnome does their advertising, split it with the bloggers. Bloggers are the content makers, and they bring traffic to the gadgets.

Proposal: absolutely free content (movies, music, audiobooks) but every 5 songs you get a 30 second streamed advertisement or a 1 minute video clip if you’re watching a movie.

I’d buy it

i would so do this to get it for free if the keep the adds small
and not show them every 5 sec or
each time i want to play a song if its on a mp3 player

Garrett Fuchs

May 29th, 2008
at 5:51pm

I believe that advertising, if used properly is a good way of increaesing revenue. If people don’t know that a product exists, then you are never going to get any money for it because no one will purchase it. However, if you allow your product to be advertised for, such as the ‘five doller foot long’, and it is catchy, then you will undoubtedly increase revenue by letting poeople know what’s out there.

i think it be cool if a tech item is free i could live with ads beening on it hope google makes a phone thats free with ads on it

As far as the zune is concerned, i could accept ads while im using wi-fi to browse (if they impliment that feature). Thats like in the real world: Go outside and you WILL see ads.

But having ads on the software while offline is like having ads in your own house. You bought the gadget, its yours! YOU should be able to choose what content is on it

It would not mind it as long as it was done in good taste and moderation, I do not like to be over burdened with excessive advertising.

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