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		<title>By: spafighting</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/women-at-tech-conferences-mythbusting/comment-page-1/#comment-264848</link>
		<dc:creator>spafighting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s become a big problem for forum owners to protect them from spam.<br />
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<p>More info only at icq: 448759872<br />
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		<title>By: GramBorder</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/women-at-tech-conferences-mythbusting/comment-page-1/#comment-257434</link>
		<dc:creator>GramBorder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 07:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all! </p>
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		<title>By: DogBalls Blog</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/women-at-tech-conferences-mythbusting/comment-page-1/#comment-254712</link>
		<dc:creator>DogBalls Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 22:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Blogging Like a Girl...&lt;/strong&gt;

Sydney - Vlogging Originally uploaded by mil8. Next week we'll be in New York to attend the inaugural BlogHer Business conference. There has been some recent blog-buzz (hat-tip to Chris Pirillo) about the male/female ratio of speakers at industry conf...</description>
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<p>Sydney - Vlogging Originally uploaded by mil8. Next week we&#8217;ll be in New York to attend the inaugural BlogHer Business conference. There has been some recent blog-buzz (hat-tip to Chris Pirillo) about the male/female ratio of speakers at industry conf&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Deirdré Straughan</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/women-at-tech-conferences-mythbusting/comment-page-1/#comment-251894</link>
		<dc:creator>Deirdré Straughan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 17:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that whenever someone mentions women at tech conferences, some guy has to use the word "babes." 

If "babeness" is what tech guys really want in the women at their conferences, perhaps they should contemplate the reverse of the coin: eye candy for the women as well. 

A recent barCamp in Rome was an excellent example of what you should be doing to get more women to sign up for your conferences. See http://www.beginningwithi.com/tech/barcamproma.html 

(NB: Tongue in cheek... mostly...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that whenever someone mentions women at tech conferences, some guy has to use the word &#8220;babes.&#8221; </p>
<p>If &#8220;babeness&#8221; is what tech guys really want in the women at their conferences, perhaps they should contemplate the reverse of the coin: eye candy for the women as well. </p>
<p>A recent barCamp in Rome was an excellent example of what you should be doing to get more women to sign up for your conferences. See <a href="http://www.beginningwithi.com/tech/barcamproma.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.beginningwithi.com/tech/barcamproma.html</a> </p>
<p>(NB: Tongue in cheek&#8230; mostly&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: John Koetsier</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/women-at-tech-conferences-mythbusting/comment-page-1/#comment-247689</link>
		<dc:creator>John Koetsier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven't got a clue what your point is, or why I should care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t got a clue what your point is, or why I should care.</p>
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		<title>By: Full Circle Online Interaction Blog: My Collaboration-Imploding Hot Button</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/women-at-tech-conferences-mythbusting/comment-page-1/#comment-246220</link>
		<dc:creator>Full Circle Online Interaction Blog: My Collaboration-Imploding Hot Button</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Jenny Ambrozek emailed me this link from Patty Anklam's blog, which led me to a guest post by Fred Mandell on Eric Mankin's blog. The were all writing about collaboration, something that is both part of my practice and takes up a lot of my thinking time.Patty's overview does a nice summation about the qualities of collaboration, but don't miss the pictures on Fred's post. By looking at collaboration between artists, we get another view of possibilities. (Diversity!)Making possibility visible is one of the key benefits for me in collaborating with others. This happens when we each bring our individual perspectives. Our different perspectives. But this isn't always easy.Over the last couple of days, I've been part of a couple of blog comment "interactions." I'm not ready to call them conversations, but they are beginning to feel like it. My qualification for conversation is when there is a healthy mix of interactions, beyond personal assertions and zingers. The second link above is not (yet?) a conversation. The first one is getting there.These interactions, like reading a variety of blogs, are openings to different points of view. In a way, it is a form of collaborative thinking. The interaction on Jenny's post, while at times heated, feels like the participants are actually reading everyone's comments. The second one, (on Chris Pirillo's blog) is still just people making their points of view visible, me included.However, on Chris' blog I had a visceral reaction when the person who commented after me referred to women as "babes we'd like to pony up a preso?" (It is a thread about women as speakers and participants at a tech conference.) Yup, I reacted to the word "babes." My first thought was, what is the male equivalent of babes, boys? Do we line up male speakers as boys? Or is babeness contingent not just on the knowledge a woman speaker brings, but how attractive she is? Again, do we judge our male speakers that way?You can see where my mind went. It went into assumption and attack mode. I don't know the guy who wrote the comment. I looked on his blog and there is some interesting stuff. But I sure did not cut him any slack in my first read of his comment. I know some of the people commenting on Jenny's blog and, while Dave Snowden can get me clenching up a bit, I know and respect his work, so I don't let myself get caught up (very often) in the anus-clenching, teeth-grinding mode as I read and reply.Listening is a key part of collaboration. If a word, a phrase or a post shuts us down, we lose.Language sure can open up or shut down a conversation for me. Or a collaboration. When a label someone else uses hits my hot button, it is harder to stay in the game. When an assertion that strikes me as over the top hits my hot button; same thing. My hot button can be the end of a collaboration, and kill many from starting.My quick learning is I need to watch my hot button or I'll miss opportunities for collaboration. That is not to say I have to like or appreciate the language or style others are using. And if we dig deeper into collaboration together, that seems fair game for negotiation.But as far as keeping the door open, I'm going to try and give my hot button a vacation.Image from fish2000Tags: collaboration, blogher, diversity [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Jenny Ambrozek emailed me this link from Patty Anklam&#8217;s blog, which led me to a guest post by Fred Mandell on Eric Mankin&#8217;s blog. The were all writing about collaboration, something that is both part of my practice and takes up a lot of my thinking time.Patty&#8217;s overview does a nice summation about the qualities of collaboration, but don&#8217;t miss the pictures on Fred&#8217;s post. By looking at collaboration between artists, we get another view of possibilities. (Diversity!)Making possibility visible is one of the key benefits for me in collaborating with others. This happens when we each bring our individual perspectives. Our different perspectives. But this isn&#8217;t always easy.Over the last couple of days, I&#8217;ve been part of a couple of blog comment &#8220;interactions.&#8221; I&#8217;m not ready to call them conversations, but they are beginning to feel like it. My qualification for conversation is when there is a healthy mix of interactions, beyond personal assertions and zingers. The second link above is not (yet?) a conversation. The first one is getting there.These interactions, like reading a variety of blogs, are openings to different points of view. In a way, it is a form of collaborative thinking. The interaction on Jenny&#8217;s post, while at times heated, feels like the participants are actually reading everyone&#8217;s comments. The second one, (on Chris Pirillo&#8217;s blog) is still just people making their points of view visible, me included.However, on Chris&#8217; blog I had a visceral reaction when the person who commented after me referred to women as &#8220;babes we&#8217;d like to pony up a preso?&#8221; (It is a thread about women as speakers and participants at a tech conference.) Yup, I reacted to the word &#8220;babes.&#8221; My first thought was, what is the male equivalent of babes, boys? Do we line up male speakers as boys? Or is babeness contingent not just on the knowledge a woman speaker brings, but how attractive she is? Again, do we judge our male speakers that way?You can see where my mind went. It went into assumption and attack mode. I don&#8217;t know the guy who wrote the comment. I looked on his blog and there is some interesting stuff. But I sure did not cut him any slack in my first read of his comment. I know some of the people commenting on Jenny&#8217;s blog and, while Dave Snowden can get me clenching up a bit, I know and respect his work, so I don&#8217;t let myself get caught up (very often) in the <acronym title="anus">****</acronym>-clenching, teeth-grinding mode as I read and reply.Listening is a key part of collaboration. If a word, a phrase or a post shuts us down, we lose.Language sure can open up or shut down a conversation for me. Or a collaboration. When a label someone else uses hits my hot button, it is harder to stay in the game. When an assertion that strikes me as over the top hits my hot button; same thing. My hot button can be the end of a collaboration, and kill many from starting.My quick learning is I need to watch my hot button or I&#8217;ll miss opportunities for collaboration. That is not to say I have to like or appreciate the language or style others are using. And if we dig deeper into collaboration together, that seems fair game for negotiation.But as far as keeping the door open, I&#8217;m going to try and give my hot button a vacation.Image from fish2000Tags: collaboration, blogher, diversity [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: Gnomedex="BlogHim?" &#171; Scobleizer - Tech Geek Blogger</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/women-at-tech-conferences-mythbusting/comment-page-1/#comment-245867</link>
		<dc:creator>Gnomedex="BlogHim?" &#171; Scobleizer - Tech Geek Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gnomedex=&#8221;BlogHim?&#8221; Chris Pirillo has a problem: most of the people who&#8217;ve bought tickets to Gnomedex are male. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Gnomedex=&#8221;BlogHim?&#8221; Chris Pirillo has a problem: most of the people who&#8217;ve bought tickets to Gnomedex are male. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Not Exactly a Head Count ~ Lisaspatch</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/women-at-tech-conferences-mythbusting/comment-page-1/#comment-245690</link>
		<dc:creator>Not Exactly a Head Count ~ Lisaspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If you&#8217;re getting some flack about bias relative to Gnomedex, your &#8220;Women at Tech Conferences&#8221; piece should clear up any misconceptions. &#160; After that, you&#8217;ll just have to let people believe what they wish, they will anyway. &#160; If you&#8217;ll look at Kottke&#8217;s List, you&#8217;ll see that his expectations may be unreasonable. &#160; Some of the conferences that he complains about had a higher percentage of women speakers than that of their audience or of women in tech in general. &#160; Quotas are intrinsically unfair anyway, it&#8217;s just too easy to lose sight of the objective, which is that of merit. &#160; Something about this site makes me nervous. &#160; It&#8217;s as though the only people who count are female. &#160; I can&#8217;t get over the mental image of this fellow counting boobs and dividing by two. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If you&#8217;re getting some flack about bias relative to Gnomedex, your &#8220;Women at Tech Conferences&#8221; piece should clear up any misconceptions. &nbsp; After that, you&#8217;ll just have to let people believe what they wish, they will anyway. &nbsp; If you&#8217;ll look at Kottke&#8217;s List, you&#8217;ll see that his expectations may be unreasonable. &nbsp; Some of the conferences that he complains about had a higher percentage of women speakers than that of their audience or of women in tech in general. &nbsp; Quotas are intrinsically unfair anyway, it&#8217;s just too easy to lose sight of the objective, which is that of merit. &nbsp; Something about this site makes me nervous. &nbsp; It&#8217;s as though the only people who count are female. &nbsp; I can&#8217;t get over the mental image of this fellow counting boobs and dividing by two. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brie Sansotta</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/women-at-tech-conferences-mythbusting/comment-page-1/#comment-245440</link>
		<dc:creator>Brie Sansotta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Chris.  I have been waiting for many years for Gnomedex to come to Washington, DC or, at least, somewhere within 300 miles.  I'll add one more female to the brew when that happens!  Brie in DC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Chris.  I have been waiting for many years for Gnomedex to come to Washington, DC or, at least, somewhere within 300 miles.  I&#8217;ll add one more female to the brew when that happens!  Brie in DC</p>
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		<title>By: Elisa Camahort</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/women-at-tech-conferences-mythbusting/comment-page-1/#comment-245372</link>
		<dc:creator>Elisa Camahort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Nancy I wasn't sure what you were saying, and what myth you thought you were busting. As i've told you before, I think your conference and its success is partly an indicator of your and Ponzi's personal network and reach. For example: even though I know you guys I wasn't aware you'd even opened registration. Why? Probably because I'm not keeping up with my feeds these days...point being it's hard for people who don't already know about your event (or any event, let's be clear) to learn about it and become motivated to attend. Word of mouth is a big driver, and that means you're getting to two degrees of separation usually.

Further: I'm not sure why the gender ratio of your attendees seems to be leading you to a conclusion about who should be your speakers. Women are constantly told that we shouldn't mind or complain about going to conferences with mostly-male speaking rosters because all we should care about it whether they're competent.

On the flip side, then, why should a mostly male audience *dictate* or *justify* a mostly male speaking roster? Are you saying men only want to hear male speakers? I don't think so, but again, I'm with Nancy, and I'm not sure I get what your message is...except that your success must mean you're doing everything the best way there is to do it.

Now maybe all of these conferences being criticized have a goal like the flip side of one of BlogHer's goals: to promote and give exposure opportunities to male speakers. If so, all i ask is that such events are as open about it as we are ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Nancy I wasn&#8217;t sure what you were saying, and what myth you thought you were busting. As i&#8217;ve told you before, I think your conference and its success is partly an indicator of your and Ponzi&#8217;s personal network and reach. For example: even though I know you guys I wasn&#8217;t aware you&#8217;d even opened registration. Why? Probably because I&#8217;m not keeping up with my feeds these days&#8230;point being it&#8217;s hard for people who don&#8217;t already know about your event (or any event, let&#8217;s be clear) to learn about it and become motivated to attend. Word of mouth is a big driver, and that means you&#8217;re getting to two degrees of separation usually.</p>
<p>Further: I&#8217;m not sure why the gender ratio of your attendees seems to be leading you to a conclusion about who should be your speakers. Women are constantly told that we shouldn&#8217;t mind or complain about going to conferences with mostly-male speaking rosters because all we should care about it whether they&#8217;re competent.</p>
<p>On the flip side, then, why should a mostly male audience *dictate* or *justify* a mostly male speaking roster? Are you saying men only want to hear male speakers? I don&#8217;t think so, but again, I&#8217;m with Nancy, and I&#8217;m not sure I get what your message is&#8230;except that your success must mean you&#8217;re doing everything the best way there is to do it.</p>
<p>Now maybe all of these conferences being criticized have a goal like the flip side of one of BlogHer&#8217;s goals: to promote and give exposure opportunities to male speakers. If so, all i ask is that such events are as open about it as we are ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeez Chris, not you too. It makes NO difference if they are black-white-male-female-young-old or pink with puce polka-dots. As long as they have contributed SOMETHING to enhance what is already out there now. THAT my friend should be your only concern, if the others want to be wishy washy PC and ignore the improvements of people just because of that word "diversity", then they deserve to fail or not sell enough in tickets.

Teachers and Nurses for example are two female majority positions. Do you see anyone demanding that these awards given for good nursing be "diversified" and some given to the small amount of males in the fields JUST BECAUSE they are males? And thereby passing over someone that may be a whole lot better then the male, just because she is female and they have their "quota"?

The same thing here Chris..if a female makes a fantastic improvement or discovery and she is willing to come, try and get her for a speaker. If not, then move on and get someone else. And if then you happen to have a majority of the speakers male, so freaking what!

In picking speakers just because of their sex, and not because of their accomplishments, you are doing a MAJOR disservice to your readers as well as the people who attend Gnomedex. And if this is how it is seen, then I can bet that attendence will start to drop until you wont even have enough to fill a hall, let alone pay for the costs.

I know I will stop coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeez Chris, not you too. It makes NO difference if they are black-white-male-female-young-old or pink with puce polka-dots. As long as they have contributed SOMETHING to enhance what is already out there now. THAT my friend should be your only concern, if the others want to be wishy washy PC and ignore the improvements of people just because of that word &#8220;diversity&#8221;, then they deserve to fail or not sell enough in tickets.</p>
<p>Teachers and Nurses for example are two female majority positions. Do you see anyone demanding that these awards given for good nursing be &#8220;diversified&#8221; and some given to the small amount of males in the fields JUST BECAUSE they are males? And thereby passing over someone that may be a whole lot better then the male, just because she is female and they have their &#8220;quota&#8221;?</p>
<p>The same thing here Chris..if a female makes a fantastic improvement or discovery and she is willing to come, try and get her for a speaker. If not, then move on and get someone else. And if then you happen to have a majority of the speakers male, so freaking what!</p>
<p>In picking speakers just because of their <acronym title="sex">***</acronym>, and not because of their accomplishments, you are doing a MAJOR disservice to your readers as well as the people who attend Gnomedex. And if this is how it is seen, then I can bet that attendence will start to drop until you wont even have enough to fill a hall, let alone pay for the costs.</p>
<p>I know I will stop coming.</p>
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		<title>By: ALLIED by Jeneane Sessum: no lists, just action - speaker diversity and the top-dog bypass</title>
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		<dc:creator>ALLIED by Jeneane Sessum: no lists, just action - speaker diversity and the top-dog bypass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Chris Pirillo wonders why Gnomedex didn't make Kottke's list of conferences examined for their percentages of male vs female speakers.I'd say it's a good thing Gnomedex didn't make the list, because, although it's an interesting idea to compare today's hot Internet conferences based on these percentages, it's sort of like addressing a zero balance in your bank account by changing the numbers in your checkbook register.It doesn't really address the lllaaarrgggerrr ppprrrooobbllem.I wish more tech conferences were like gnomedex, and that more of today's web-tech conference organizers were like chris and ponzi. Gnomedex was fostering discussion on the tech landscape LONG before today's webby conferences (and conference organizers), many of whom are doing what they do to capitalize on web 2.0 money, the Internet economy, and the social media 'who's who' scene.THOSE are the conferences I inherently distrust and see as suspect, and they nearly always give me reason to distrust, because they almost always take the speaker bypass of looking at the technorati top 100 or Top Dogs or Founding FATHERS of blogging, and approach them for speaking slots. These individuals are STILL the easiest to come across when you skim the web looking for voices-as-commodity. They are also pretty good themselves at going after gigs. Easy, visible targets beget easy quick conferences beget money in pockets beget notoriety for speakers and conferences, which beget more speaking gigs and conferences.Chris and Ponzi don't skim the web. They live here with us. They participate--participated before it was trendy and highly lucrative. That is why I trust them to put together a good, representative conference, and to listen to ideas for speakers and topics if people think they should do it differently.Back to the Kottke list: There is no universal diversity percentage that makes things okay.Wouldn't that be simple? It would allow for more bypasses, faster conference planning, and more predictable tracks. It would allow everything to be fair and just, and would mean that no one would have to think about their own beliefs and motives. Just fill in the 38% diversity quotient at work, and then you don't have to wonder if it's okay that you wish your new neighbors weren't black.The "right" number of women speakers for a deeply-tech tech conference might differ from the "right" number for a social marketing conference. Because there is no right number.Except for NOT ZERO.AND PROBABLY. NOT ONE EITHER.Use your fucking heads.How to find good speakers? Ask the people you know who are in the populations you think are sparse or missing. Better yet, START READING PEOPLE who don't look like everyone else in your aggregator or blogroll. Then read who they read.And if you really don't know any women or people of color, expand your world a little bit. Get off your computer, get out of your fucking house, city, state, and/or cultural comfort zone to-day.THEN plan a conference.Labels: advertising, chris pirillo, conferences, diversity, gnomedex, internet, kottke, marketing, pr, social media, tech, web 2.0, women [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Chris Pirillo wonders why Gnomedex didn&#8217;t make Kottke&#8217;s list of conferences examined for their percentages of male vs female speakers.I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s a good thing Gnomedex didn&#8217;t make the list, because, although it&#8217;s an interesting idea to compare today&#8217;s hot Internet conferences based on these percentages, it&#8217;s sort of like addressing a zero balance in your bank account by changing the numbers in your checkbook register.It doesn&#8217;t really address the lllaaarrgggerrr ppprrrooobbllem.I wish more tech conferences were like gnomedex, and that more of today&#8217;s web-tech conference organizers were like chris and ponzi. Gnomedex was fostering discussion on the tech landscape LONG before today&#8217;s webby conferences (and conference organizers), many of whom are doing what they do to capitalize on web 2.0 money, the Internet economy, and the social media &#8216;who&#8217;s who&#8217; scene.THOSE are the conferences I inherently distrust and see as suspect, and they nearly always give me reason to distrust, because they almost always take the speaker bypass of looking at the technorati top 100 or Top Dogs or Founding FATHERS of blogging, and approach them for speaking slots. These individuals are STILL the easiest to come across when you skim the web looking for voices-as-commodity. They are also pretty good themselves at going after gigs. Easy, visible targets beget easy quick conferences beget money in pockets beget notoriety for speakers and conferences, which beget more speaking gigs and conferences.Chris and Ponzi don&#8217;t skim the web. They live here with us. They participate&#8211;participated before it was trendy and highly lucrative. That is why I trust them to put together a good, representative conference, and to listen to ideas for speakers and topics if people think they should do it differently.Back to the Kottke list: There is no universal diversity percentage that makes things okay.Wouldn&#8217;t that be simple? It would allow for more bypasses, faster conference planning, and more predictable tracks. It would allow everything to be fair and just, and would mean that no one would have to think about their own beliefs and motives. Just fill in the 38% diversity quotient at work, and then you don&#8217;t have to wonder if it&#8217;s okay that you wish your new neighbors weren&#8217;t black.The &#8220;right&#8221; number of women speakers for a deeply-tech tech conference might differ from the &#8220;right&#8221; number for a social marketing conference. Because there is no right number.Except for NOT ZERO.AND PROBABLY. NOT ONE <a href="http://EITHER.Us" title="http://EITHER.Us" target="_blank">EITHER.Us</a>e your <acronym title="fucking">*******</acronym> heads.How to find good speakers? Ask the people you know who are in the populations you think are sparse or missing. Better yet, START READING PEOPLE who don&#8217;t look like everyone else in your aggregator or blogroll. Then read who they read.And if you really don&#8217;t know any women or people of color, expand your world a little bit. Get off your computer, get out of your <acronym title="fucking">*******</acronym> house, city, state, and/or cultural comfort zone to-day.THEN plan a conference.Labels: advertising, chris pirillo, conferences, diversity, gnomedex, internet, kottke, marketing, pr, social media, tech, web 2.0, women [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: Nancy White</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/women-at-tech-conferences-mythbusting/comment-page-1/#comment-244072</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, I'm not really sure I understand what you are trying to say here. In one way, I could read your post as "we don't need to sell any more tickets, we are doing fine, and our audience likes it so why change?" I don't believe that is your message, but I could interpret it that way.  Knowing Ponzi is your partner in this endeavor, I can’t imagine she would send that message. But I don’t want to act on assumption. It is not hard to think that maybe the familiarity of a known group is the draw? Do the guys like it that it is 95% guys in the audience? That is a legitimate thing if it is the intent. Do they notice that there are only 5% women? Do they care? Do you want to attract more women as participants? We are involved in technology and, from a talent recruitment perspective; more of us should be in technology. We have a lot to add. The lack of participation has many roots.

Maybe it might be helpful to switch the question around a bit. 

How will diverse participants and speakers add to Gnomedex's already strong value? How will it keep you always attracting the leading edges (yes, plural), and not just the same-old same-olds?  

What if more diversity in your offering started attracting more diversity to your audience? Would that add value and how? By diversity I mean of any type - thought, gender, role, color - I think it is a fallacy to think of this as fulfilling quotas. It is more about crossing network boundaries to expand our learning/thinking. It is about what diversity itself brings: new ideas, innovation, different perspectives that make us think, etc. Have you played out a scenario in your head where there was perhaps a more diverse audience? Something that moves you away from the self-perpetuation of the current make up? Or is that abandoning your core base?  Maybe it would be fun to do a little brainstorming and imagine the possibilities? Maybe do it WITH your audience!

More importantly, how can you, as a known, trusted conference organizer, use that trust to expand the edges of what you are doing? I think listening to your audience is absolutely essential. But you can bring a particular added value. Find out WHAT they want to know/hear about, and then reach beyond the known circles for people who can speak to that. People trust you, so you don't have to have just the big and familiar names. You are in a unique position to take risks and go beyond.

How do you/we spot the leading edge folks who are outside of our normal networks and orbits, particularly those outside of your current participant base?  In your case, if 95% of participants are men, and *if* the assumption that “like tend to suggest like” is true, then your requests might miss a whole bunch of good things. Sort of using our own blinders and missing the full view.

I know that is more work. You have to vet out people you don't personally know. Find out if they are both smart in the domain area AND good at communicating and interacting. It is harder than going with a known quantity. But damn, because you have such audience loyalty, you really have their trust. You can do things other conference organizers can't do. 

What if you had a number of "mystery" people - known perhaps in an adjacent field to technology who have a vision. The work that Bre and Brady have done at Ignite-Seattle and the 5 minute presentations offer a format that gives you a low risk way to inoculate the group with new ideas and take risks on lesser known thinkers and doers. Just think of the possible delight and surprise!

Some of the people you might want to corral in this year are the people doing amazing work with new technologies in education, particularly some of the far out librarians.  The folks bringing tech and art together - man, I can see how businesses can extract some ideas here that they can use in their contexts. There is a very edgy  and smart people talking about digital ethnorati. What about people working on tools that transcend language barriers – our biggest customers aren’t going to be speaking English. Are we paying attention? What about technology in different areas like health. What would a health widget look like. What about technology for us rapidly aging baby boomers – money to be made there. Who is paying attention? Talk to some of the very cool people using technology in international development. The intelligence about mobile phone applications outside of the US make us look like wimps (me in particular - I'm a mobile phone idiot).

Would more diverse people choose to attend if they thought that there were some strong new voices? Knowing that a conference attracts a 95% male audience would attract some women and disincline others. But knowing it was a more diverse audience would for sure make me more inclined to sign up. And for once, I think I’ll be in town during Gnomedex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I&#8217;m not really sure I understand what you are trying to say here. In one way, I could read your post as &#8220;we don&#8217;t need to sell any more tickets, we are doing fine, and our audience likes it so why change?&#8221; I don&#8217;t believe that is your message, but I could interpret it that way.  Knowing Ponzi is your partner in this endeavor, I can’t imagine she would send that message. But I don’t want to act on assumption. It is not hard to think that maybe the familiarity of a known group is the draw? Do the guys like it that it is 95% guys in the audience? That is a legitimate thing if it is the intent. Do they notice that there are only 5% women? Do they care? Do you want to attract more women as participants? We are involved in technology and, from a talent recruitment perspective; more of us should be in technology. We have a lot to add. The lack of participation has many roots.</p>
<p>Maybe it might be helpful to switch the question around a bit. </p>
<p>How will diverse participants and speakers add to Gnomedex&#8217;s already strong value? How will it keep you always attracting the leading edges (yes, plural), and not just the same-old same-olds?  </p>
<p>What if more diversity in your offering started attracting more diversity to your audience? Would that add value and how? By diversity I mean of any type - thought, gender, role, color - I think it is a fallacy to think of this as fulfilling quotas. It is more about crossing network boundaries to expand our learning/thinking. It is about what diversity itself brings: new ideas, innovation, different perspectives that make us think, etc. Have you played out a scenario in your head where there was perhaps a more diverse audience? Something that moves you away from the self-perpetuation of the current make up? Or is that abandoning your core base?  Maybe it would be fun to do a little brainstorming and imagine the possibilities? Maybe do it WITH your audience!</p>
<p>More importantly, how can you, as a known, trusted conference organizer, use that trust to expand the edges of what you are doing? I think listening to your audience is absolutely essential. But you can bring a particular added value. Find out WHAT they want to know/hear about, and then reach beyond the known circles for people who can speak to that. People trust you, so you don&#8217;t have to have just the big and familiar names. You are in a unique position to take risks and go beyond.</p>
<p>How do you/we spot the leading edge folks who are outside of our normal networks and orbits, particularly those outside of your current participant base?  In your case, if 95% of participants are men, and *if* the assumption that “like tend to suggest like” is true, then your requests might miss a whole bunch of good things. Sort of using our own blinders and missing the full view.</p>
<p>I know that is more work. You have to vet out people you don&#8217;t personally know. Find out if they are both smart in the domain area AND good at communicating and interacting. It is harder than going with a known quantity. But damn, because you have such audience loyalty, you really have their trust. You can do things other conference organizers can&#8217;t do. </p>
<p>What if you had a number of &#8220;mystery&#8221; people - known perhaps in an adjacent field to technology who have a vision. The work that Bre and Brady have done at Ignite-Seattle and the 5 minute presentations offer a format that gives you a low risk way to inoculate the group with new ideas and take risks on lesser known thinkers and doers. Just think of the possible delight and surprise!</p>
<p>Some of the people you might want to corral in this year are the people doing amazing work with new technologies in education, particularly some of the far out librarians.  The folks bringing tech and art together - man, I can see how businesses can extract some ideas here that they can use in their contexts. There is a very edgy  and smart people talking about digital ethnorati. What about people working on tools that transcend language barriers – our biggest customers aren’t going to be speaking English. Are we paying attention? What about technology in different areas like health. What would a health widget look like. What about technology for us rapidly aging baby boomers – money to be made there. Who is paying attention? Talk to some of the very cool people using technology in international development. The intelligence about mobile phone applications outside of the US make us look like wimps (me in particular - I&#8217;m a mobile phone idiot).</p>
<p>Would more diverse people choose to attend if they thought that there were some strong new voices? Knowing that a conference attracts a 95% male audience would attract some women and disincline others. But knowing it was a more diverse audience would for sure make me more inclined to sign up. And for once, I think I’ll be in town during Gnomedex.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schappell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schappell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't ever think of it as male/female either, but I saw McClure's post about it (for Web 2.0 Expo) and assume that it's hit a chord somewhere.  Nevertheless, it's never a bad topic.  Maybe allow gnomedexers to provide a Top 10.0 list of babes we'd like to pony up a preso?  :-)
Two reco's for speakers, who I'm sure you've already considered:

1) Kathy Sierra... talking about that which she talks about

2) Betsy Weber... quick intro to the power and ease of use of Camtasia Studio, Screencast and SnagIt... reminding folks that they have all the tools they need to more quickly introduce their customers to the evolving features of their products</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t ever think of it as male/female either, but I saw McClure&#8217;s post about it (for Web 2.0 Expo) and assume that it&#8217;s hit a chord somewhere.  Nevertheless, it&#8217;s never a bad topic.  Maybe allow gnomedexers to provide a Top 10.0 list of babes we&#8217;d like to pony up a preso?  :-)<br />
Two reco&#8217;s for speakers, who I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve already considered:</p>
<p>1) Kathy Sierra&#8230; talking about that which she talks about</p>
<p>2) Betsy Weber&#8230; quick intro to the power and ease of use of Camtasia Studio, Screencast and SnagIt&#8230; reminding folks that they have all the tools they need to more quickly introduce their customers to the evolving features of their products</p>
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		<title>By:  Scobleizer - Tech Geek Blogger</title>
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		<dc:creator> Scobleizer - Tech Geek Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;  Chris Pirillo has a problem: most of the people who’ve bought tickets to Gnomedex are male.  Maybe Gnomedex should co-locate with BlogHer?  &lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
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