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Windows XP SP3 vs Windows Vista SP1

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fishfishstinks wrote in to ask me with the release of XP SP3… will Microsoft soon stop supporting and updating XP altogether?

The answer is… yes. Eventually, it will happen, as it does with all old operating systems. When will that happen? I have no idea. I am fairly sure that this will be the last actual Service Pack for Windows XP. But, they’ll still issue critical updates and things of that nature. The next Microsoft Operating System is due somewhere in 2009. Will we see it then? Eh… I’m not sure we’ll get it quite that soon.

Apple doesn’t issue service packs for their operating system. Rather, they issue point updates. Their new version of OS X is due out shortly… Leopard.

Ubuntu just released GutsyGibbon, which is Ubuntu version 7.10.

What operating system are you using? Do you plan to switch in the near future? Do you think each of these companies handle their updates and new versions well, or is there a better way they could do things?

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For me Windows Vista with 1GB RAM = Windows XP with 256 RAM. I stand with Windows XP with 2GB.

I’m running Windows XP SP 2 on my machine. Due to some of the horror stories I’ve heard about Vista, I don’t plan to upgrade anytime soon.

I have also went back and fourth between Windows XP SP2 and Windows Vista… its a mess. I am going to wait until Sp1 for Vista is released and I will be integrating the sp into my install dvd and giving Vista another shot. I really like how it looks :P and the ‘User Name’ folder is IMO a better layout then the My Documents folder alone. Yes I know the ‘User Name’ folder exists in Windows XP but it is more nicely laid out in Vista. In face Vista handles a lot of stuff like that much better then Windows XP… Now if they could just iron out those bugs and maybe get it moving a little bit faster.

Take Care
-TheDub

I hate buying new opperating systems. I usually just wait till i get a new system. I’m hoping to switch to ubuntu for a while!

the whole apple point release thing is interesting, because apple have actually found a way for you to pay for minor feature releases that many software firms just bundle into a free service pack for their software.

now, if it introduces something quite big (I think bootcamp would come under that category) I could imagine charging a small fee as a way to pay for the development (since it’s not an improvement on software already bundled in the OS) of that, but having to pay for changes to software that was already released with the OS when you purchased it is very cheeky indeed.

Yes, I’m aware that apple have their patches/system updates seperate to their feature packs (which is how I would describe their point releases) and don’t charge for those (my gf’s emac still gets security updates even though it’s still on osx 10.2 or 10.3, I can’t remember which), but could you imagine the uproar if M$ were to charge for the OS redevelopment that they tend to just bundle into their service packs?

xp 384 ram 90 gig hdd 1.8 sucky i m a soon to be a mac user

the only time i ever upgraded on os on a pc was way back in the day when i went from windows 95 to 98 on my god awful packard bell. right now im running xp home on my dell P4, and even though i have a copy of vista (although not a spare cd key for installing it), i don’t really wanna bother putting it on.

hi
will vista ultimate edition 64bit work on my pc which is currently xp pro 32 bit

Well, willaspire, your part of the minority then. Since you asked-
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200, 2GB RAM, nVidia GeForce 7300 (driver issues), Sigmatel sound card (major driver issues), Samsung Lightscribe drive (major driver issues), HP Photosmart 3310 (Driver Issues), MX Revolution Mouse (Doesn’t play nice with Vista) And then the software incompatibility is a whole nother story…

I’m actually isnstalling OSX86 as we speak.
Because I at the moment cant afford a Mac.
So, I decided to run another os. =D

Check if your processor is 64bit, try searching your processor model on google and see what comes back :)
I wouldn’t recommend 64bit windows because drivers and applications don;t work that great :) 32bit windows ftw, 64bit mac osx leopard ftw!

Thanks but soon when I get my router fixed, I’ll be using a XP

i Got Vista and i bought it when it first come out and now all the issues i had are gone, now its a perdectly working Windows Vista Ultimate Notebook

xp and i really dont feel the need to update and id rather buy some red monkey jeans than vista

I have windows set up so that it updates when i close the compuert.
Since Vista was released there has almost been bi daily updates on my xp machine at work.
The mac’s work… not so often there might be one every month, and isn’t the ..x packs basicaly the same as service packs for windows only they are 3 times as frequent and 1/3 the size?

Ubuntu 7.10 was released on my birthday. I’ve already ordered a LiveCD for it. I can’t wait till i get it. Sort of like a late b-day present.

I use Windows xp Home SP2 and on my old PC I use Windows ME unfortunately

Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon (Feisty Fawn before) and Windows XP. Xubuntu Gutsy Gibbon on my old laptop.

i think vista is quite stable.( haven’t had a problem till now) i do care for eye candy,so vista is my best bet. I cant run linux because beryl and compiz fusion don’t work on my hardware. and mac os x is not for me.

I aint going upgrade to vista in a long time not antill all the games work properly on it.

I ran Vista Ultimate for a while but went back to XP Pro, now no longer use Windows OS at all. All I use now is Ubuntu & MAC OS X which I will be getting the new version. My days of Windows are long & gone. I wish them the best.

i have made a upgrade for the game Crysis of EA :P that game RULEZZZZ ON DX 10 :p

i have xp, wont upgrade till its essential. but my mate and his brother have had np with vista, so each on of their own

Wow, you need to get a girl friend.

I’ll probably get XP sp3 when it comes out and stick it out until 2009. I see no problem with XP except some games are gonna come out VISTA ONLY (GAY) which is gay, cuz I’m a gamer…

I run Windows Vista amd Turion 64×2, I can’t get shockwave10 to load on my computer. It doesn’t like any software which was made before 2003. So any of my old programs if you put in the cd. Stop right there.

This is an Hp Pavilion Entertainment PC, and it will not play shockwave games. I’m still searching for an answer.

lol, thats freaky. Well, then never mind.

i will prolly move to the mac

im running windows vista home basic

Running Vista, and I’m not going to change back to XP :P

But SP are good to, if you reinstall your system it’s nice to have something to boot on and then some small updates only.

I’ll change to Linux if it is going to run all the apps that WIndows can now. If not.. Well, we’ll see..

Tried the newest Mac, didn’t like it. Not my sort of system… And Linux still isn’t ready for me.

Vista Home Premium. And I like it better than XP.

xp sp3 is out just search thepiratebay for xp sp3 im using it right now havent noticed any diferance yet. but ive only had it for about an hour.

ITS almost 2008 and i switched to vista and back to XP, seems the vista SP1 wont really change much and next MS OS comes in 2009, so yeah … i can see myself sticking with XP for 10 years untill 2009, thats if i dont go OSX

chris pirillo is an idiot

This nerd gets pissed at the end lol.

Hi, I’m using Ubuntu Gusty on my machine, I’m an Only Linux/UNIX user from almost 2 years, and believe me ….. I DON’T MISS WINDOWS :D

Hi guys,
I know this reply is late, but I was surprised how many are running Vista. I was searching for comparisons btw Vista and XP and I ame here. I am actually still using WinXPSP2 at home, and Win 2K SP4 on another older machine (where I do most of my productive work).

I tried Vista Business (got a license through my university)on the high-end machine (P4 3 GHz HT, 2 GB RAM) and it was barely. I don’t think I’ll be upgrading to Vista ever. From now until 2014 (when MS’s support for XP ends), I am pretty sure that I will move to either Mac or Linux (if I managed to learn it well).

people,

I overclock, its a no-brainer. Vista is a step back, microsoft seems to forget problems they fixed previously with other operating systems. Easily overclocked my amd 5600+ to 3.0, my memory to 430mhz, my video card to 650mhz 8800 gt. Installed vista, said overclock failed. No microsoft, Vista failed.
Use Windows XP Professional SP3, play with Ubuntu, nice easy open source learner linux for newbies. Easy install through wibi, through windows XP
In closing, 64 bit versions went to route of two processors on one board, and Windows ME. What a fairy tale waste for consumers. Seems not one company ever really decided to go along with 64 bit.

YES xp all the way anything else will have to hit in a virtual box

I cant decide between xp and vista since they bothe have advantages eg XP uses less power so is suitable for gaming whilst vista has a shiny new interface that is easier to use. In my view, i would stick with xp until mr gates decides to iron out all the problems in vista.

Im keeping XP for the forseeable future

Its just better

My old IT teacher still uses Windows 95 on his computer because nobody writes viruses for it anymore!

xp is still the best..
I used ubuntu 7.10 cause i was sick of vista, find it great, but with the new 8.04 update got a driver problem, so now im back with xp!!

Ubuntu is great but it doesn’t run games likes xp and also adobe software dont works… (yes wine is doing a good job running them but it still have problems, and new games takes time to get on wine)

Enjoy xp, sure try out mac osx or linux, they sure gives you programming and OS skills, but in the end…

its not about style and looks, its about performance. So as for now, stick on XP

everyone keeps saying that xp is better “performance wise” than vista, well here is the solution, get a shit hot computer!, get a quad core, 4gb of RAM, a 9800 gx2 or 3870×2, problem solved lol

I heard XP SP3 speed up XP by up to 10%.

actually 4 gigs of ram might be a bit much, you dont need that much, vista only utilizes about 400 megs of the ram you have for normal activity, so you can have 16 gigs of ram and still it wont make a difference. the speed of the ram is what matters. and also you cant just get a quad core, you have to make sure the motherboard supports it. so first get a nice motherboard, then go from there.

lol very true, i should have said about the ram speed, and i only said 4 gb becasues i found 2 gb was to small, and most new motherboards have support quad cores, but i should have said about it so people got my point

I do not neccessarily like visita and made a very swift transition to ubuntu and loving every minute of it. I do of course still use XP and I might still survive for at least another few more years. I did with windows 98 until last year (2007). Wow we are talking about 10 years. I am willing to take a chance with XP. Hopefully after it I will forget completely about Windows, once XP dies out.

I will be using XP in 2009 as a backup alternative. The games I like work better on XP. I’ll prpbably switch and run XP in a virtual pc. I had no issue with Vista before the SP. the ppl who had trouble with vista is teh sme as will xp. just use a system with the proper specs it runs almost perfect.I have quadcore with 4gb of ram on Vista x64 and I have no problems.

this guy talks allot about Ubuntu in his videos
it may be just me but he may be using Ubuntu

has anyone installed SP3 for XP that can give a base review on if its worth installing or not? Im affraid to install it on my machine after hearing people having freak problems with it resulting in a reinstall of windows altogether.

I have install SP3 on my Windows XP.. but to be honest I didn’t notice any difference, just a Service Pack 3 in the system :P.. I have to test them for an extented period to make a good conclution

FUK SP3, If you use windows one care anti virus, which is a piece of crap anyhow it wont install on sp3. Great job Microsoft is now releasing updates that make its own programs not work on its own os… now that takes stupidity, I had to remove sp3 so I could reinstall my virus scan….great job microshit I only buy your products because nobody else cares to compete. Mac and lix are a joke.

windows xp sp3 has better performance than the one before it…its also safer

Right now my Vista is using 39% of my 3GB RAM on startup and that is about 1.17GB of RAM. My system was slow when running only 1 GB and since I upgrade to 3GB I used Most of it ( more than 2GB)when I am playing a game.

xp sp3 is so horrible, i downloaded it yesterday, and it was so buggy when you try to move a file to another file or recycle bin it wouldnt move or delete, and its slow.

xp sp3 rocks!! there is no bugs noob!!!!

All Vista notebooks I have, had stopped supporting my wireless card, until I installed Service Pack 1, So I guess it is completely necessary to download SP1.

XP all the way… till the OS dies.

oh cool, winxp sp3 is out, now I cant wait until sp4 comes out so they can fix all of the bugs i’m gonna have again. fuk windows really sucks, and cant believe everyone gets all hyped over windows service packs, in most cases they fuk up ur system. Mac is way better, SWITCH TO MAC!!!

oh cool, winxp sp3 is out, now I cant wait until sp4 comes out so they can fix all of the bugs i’m gonna have again. fuk windows really sucks, and cant believe everyone gets all hyped over windows service packs, in most cases they fuk up ur system. Mac is way better, SWITCH TO MAC!!!

i want a mac book pro!! windwos sucks!! people who say windows is better than apple probally never used a mac computer… but whatever keep having problems with your virusses while im playing games and making movies on my mac WITHOUT any problems…

i want a mac book pro!! windwos sucks!! people who say windows is better than apple probally never used a mac computer… but whatever keep having problems with your virusses while im playing games and making movies on my mac WITHOUT any problems…

i have windows XP Home SP2 currently. however i’m looking for a used laptop that is able to support Windows Vista Home Premium and up because i would like to have one computer with XP and another with Vista. i still love Windows 98. in my opinion it was the best OS that microsoft made. once i get my Vista computer, i’m gonna get Virtual PC and have 98 on it with Vista.

i have windows XP Home SP2 currently. however i’m looking for a used laptop that is able to support Windows Vista Home Premium and up because i would like to have one computer with XP and another with Vista. i still love Windows 98. in my opinion it was the best OS that microsoft made. once i get my Vista computer, i’m gonna get Virtual PC and have 98 on it with Vista.

This REALLY sucks still… I was hoping WMM would be fixed…:P

People who say apple is better than windows probally never play games

“windwos sucks” ? sure but if the Apple ever release Macos to PC it will suck just as much

Developing a OS for just a handful of Mac´s hardware is millions times easier than for millions different PCs

heey guys,

just bought a new pc and i have installed XP.
i think ill just wait a year and than buy vista becouse Windows vista is not supporting every driver and game.

thats the pc’s problem…
there are maybe 400 different of types…
but for mac there are just (i think) 15?

400??
You know there are more than millions hardware parts from many company you can add to your PC theoretically every time you do it you have a new PC

400??
You know there are more than millions hardware parts from many company you can add to your PC theoretically every time you do it you have a new PC

Just close all unneeded startup features and it should fix you problem

i mean pc’s not hardware… i cant really explain because my english isnt very good…

i mean pc’s not hardware… i cant really explain because my english isnt very good…

Vista 32 bits does support most of games and driver but not the 64 version..
With Vista ultimate extras make it very easy to install all the driver you need and thats the best part i like with Vista

Vista 32 bits does support most of games and driver but not the 64 version..
With Vista ultimate extras make it very easy to install all the driver you need and thats the best part i like with Vista

yes it will….. vista is fine…do some research before you join in with all the whining of the jerks who cant play their 25 year old video games on vista.

os x leopard basically is a service pack. it’s still os x, not os 11. Tiger was 10.4, leopard is 10.5, its not a new os its just a mega update with a ton of new features, like a service pack.

os x leopard basically is a service pack. it’s still os x, not os 11. Tiger was 10.4, leopard is 10.5, its not a new os its just a mega update with a ton of new features, like a service pack.

I will still with Xp until 2009…

I will still with Xp until 2009…

there will be no sp4

there will be no sp4

I know, but what should I do? I was still on windows 2000 with a shitty computer (P3, 500mhz) at the end of 2005 so I change it since it’s was falling in piece (Literally: The cd-rom stop working, I have change the Fan, the 12GO hard drive was making more and more sond) and I simply could not wait for vista… So, me PC got only 2 years and a couple of month, I don’t want to change it for economical reasons…

I know, but what should I do? I was still on windows 2000 with a shitty computer (P3, 500mhz) at the end of 2005 so I change it since it’s was falling in piece (Literally: The cd-rom stop working, I have change the Fan, the 12GO hard drive was making more and more sond) and I simply could not wait for vista… So, me PC got only 2 years and a couple of month, I don’t want to change it for economical reasons…

vista blows but everyone will change to it by probably 2009 except the old people who keep their machines for email

Blows? I don’t think so… No OS really blow when you try a lot of them.
And, I don’t keep it for email only: I play some video games and I do some sound work.
Well, I was more and more limited with the P3… So, the game was getting more and more old, but it’s not because it’s old that it’s boring.
Be the way, this computer will probably stay in this room and I will quit the regions… You understand why I don’t want to put more money on this one.

Blows? I don’t think so… No OS really blow when you try a lot of them.
And, I don’t keep it for email only: I play some video games and I do some sound work.
Well, I was more and more limited with the P3… So, the game was getting more and more old, but it’s not because it’s old that it’s boring.
Be the way, this computer will probably stay in this room and I will quit the regions… You understand why I don’t want to put more money on this one.

What do I get and why would I install XP Sp3??!! Everything is working the way I want it on sp2. No need to introduce new problems with sp3. One reason M$ gets away with releasing crappy Os’s (Vista) is people continue to support them anyways!?? Say “NO” to Vista and maybe they’ll feel obligated to come up with something better.

forget all that apple is cool but vista is the best windows.for now

Sales until 2009, but support extended to 2014! That means that even MS knows that XP is the best thing they’ve ever came up with :)

same here i got 3gb and its using 31% of my ram.

stick with XP everybody, iv got Vista installed twice and it has issues. Its just unstable and freezes on alot of applications. The ctrl-alt-del does not bring up task manager but another screen first.
The Task Manager is unreliable to close non responding programs i find also

@dak: To open the Task Manager in Vista you press “CTRL – SHIFT – ESC”.

I am still wondering if it is really a good solution to deploy Windows vista in a large organization of about 1000 users?

Im running Vista x64 Ultimate with 8gb of ram and to be honest im glad i made the change: running games in 64-bit improves fps in games by up to 20fps, vista also has better memory management than xp and directx10 graphics are amazing compared to dx9. conclusion dnt complain bout vista unless uve got a gaming rig tht can handle dx10 and u atleast hav 4gb of ram for gaming

Udate on last comment: memory management; Vista says its using all of my ram in other words it says i hav bout 64mb free 1gb used and 7gb cached this is the supior memory management of vista all my most commonly used programs etc.. are pre-loaded into the ram meaning tasks load straight away no waiting like wen i was using xp mainly because ram runs faster than ur hard drive does at loading apps

I recently reinstalled Vista from XP and SP1 seems to be more stable for me. Though I did have problems with the Task Scheduler Engine consantly closing, I found the problem was the “superfetch” service. I turned it off and it runs great.

Vista suffered from what XP had suffered.
When XP came out, people stated saying O, Who needs Windows XP, when we have WINDOWS 2000/ME.

At the moment I’m using my dad’s vista, my own xp sp3 laptop is defragmenting.

At the moment, I prefer XP.

When Windows Se7en comes out in the 2010 timefrme, people will start liking Vista and saying oh look its Windows Se7en the disgrace of microsoft.

Then so on and so on..

At the moment PC has 90% of the market under capture.

And yes, this is ravi chowdhury from beal high school..
hehe

Vista and xp . new or old . All about marketing

nothing that is new works perfect . it took xp until sp2 to be stable enough .

vista sp1 is a real update , while sp3 is a coverup ….

i think microsoft itself gave a statement by releaseing xp sp3 that is ” hang on there windows users we are working our all to perfect vista , here is a so called upgrade for xp please stay with windows dont change to apple or linux …..”

a very desperate marketing stunt for microsoft . shame on them . sp3 is an update like all updates for xp since sp2 , cant believe people actually thinks it makes xp faster …. all it does is updates your windows xp like any windows update you have done before since sp2 . ( security updates sugar coated to sound like they are doing something special for the end user hence sp3 ) ,

nothing new with xp , and new technology offered by vista ( dx10 , faster memory swap , readyBoost etc…).. you do the math . vista is not perfect . but its good … again it’s new vs. old … you do the math ….

vista for me ,,,

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for all of u who like vista are dumb it crashed my mother board and xp SP3 Works fine. so i dont feel that people should update if there is no need for it and if windows 7 is better i can always buy the cd for it and use that so.. yea vista sux and xp is good plz stop thinking its actually good LMAO.

well guy’s ,i am using Xp3 on my pc and i think it’s best among the other OS ,include vista any Addition ,Xp3 with 1GB, Duel core… it’s super fast !!!
WINDOW 7 is big joke (mistake).!!!

hellow chris,
I’m a newbie in this linux Os stuff. I just Installed jaunty jakalope in my laptop which is centrino laptop. it has intel chipset and every thing, which is cool because i don’t have to compile anything but the bug in graphic card is anoying. it suddenly freeze when i start to update the system and also when i play with desktop efect stuff. so, do you have any idea to fix this problem?

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