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I can’t believe I watched the whole thing… ;)

Seems like a very pragmatic stance to me. I believe that people are most productive on the tools they know best, so switching OS’es is a productivity bust for most folks.

I can’t believe I watched the whole thing… ;)

Seems like a very pragmatic stance to me. I believe that people are most productive on the tools they know best, so switching OS’es is a productivity bust for most folks.

Cohesion!! The Parallels feature is Cohesion. :)

Cohesion!! The Parallels feature is Cohesion. :)

I’m running Ubuntu 6.10 right now dual boot with XP

Chris,
Always good to hear from you. These videos bring me back to the good old days of Call for Help. Keep up the good work and be sure to say hello to us in #lockergnome sometime :-)

–Freekie

Chris,
Always good to hear from you. These videos bring me back to the good old days of Call for Help. Keep up the good work and be sure to say hello to us in #lockergnome sometime :-)

–Freekie

Chris,

Haven’t been on your site for a while, but when I did today and watched your little “hissy fit” (LOL…just kidding) on Vista….I realized how much missed you on TV. It was fun to listen and learn from you then, and it’s the same way for me now. You just crack me up. I hope you continue with your uploaded videos because you (and leo laporte) are just great communicators. Keep up the great work!

-Victor

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I’ve been using Windows Vista Home Premium on my notebook for 2 weeks now. Lovin it. No problems whatsoever.

I’ve been using Windows Vista Home Premium on my notebook for 2 weeks now. Lovin it. No problems whatsoever.

I am a longtime Windows user, having started way back with Windows 3.1

Last week I had to go out and buy a new PC which had Vista Home Basic on it. I have found, that like Chris, I hate the entire UAC and permissions in Vista - these are nothing more than annoyances to me, not features. If I had no clue what I was doing that would be a different story, but for the intelligent user with half a brain, these things seem ridiculously controlling. Vista Home Basic version doesn’t have Aero Glass and a lot of the bells and whistles of the other versions of Vista that people are buying the operating system for, so I don’t even think this version should exist.

I recently purchased a new Microsoft keyboard and it does not work at all with Vista at this point. When I install the software for it from the disk that came with it, it works ok, but only until I reboot. When I do, I have no keyboard OR mouse functionality at all. I have a favorite generic scroll mouse that is useless with Vista because of this as well. My Lexmark printer/scanner won’t play nice with it either. So I am stuck using the mouse and keyboard that came with the computer I bought or nothing, and I don’t have a working printer.

I also think it is wrong that they are selling new PCs with Vista Home and 512 of ram, when even the stripped down Vista Home clearly needs at least a gig of ram to run smoothly enough to not be annoying -even when running basic things like a browse and email app. Granted, there is only one freeware app that I use which refuses to run in Vista Home, so I am able to get almost all of my apps to run ok with it so far. If this wasn’t the case, I would be forced to go out and buy a copy of XP and install it - though I am already very tempted to do that as things stand.

Vista is not worth the headaches right now. My advice is to stick with XP until they fix these driver issues and until you can afford to buy at least a gig of ram (preferably 2 gigs) for your machine.

I am a longtime Windows user, having started way back with Windows 3.1

Last week I had to go out and buy a new PC which had Vista Home Basic on it. I have found, that like Chris, I hate the entire UAC and permissions in Vista - these are nothing more than annoyances to me, not features. If I had no clue what I was doing that would be a different story, but for the intelligent user with half a brain, these things seem ridiculously controlling. Vista Home Basic version doesn’t have Aero Glass and a lot of the bells and whistles of the other versions of Vista that people are buying the operating system for, so I don’t even think this version should exist.

I recently purchased a new Microsoft keyboard and it does not work at all with Vista at this point. When I install the software for it from the disk that came with it, it works ok, but only until I reboot. When I do, I have no keyboard OR mouse functionality at all. I have a favorite generic scroll mouse that is useless with Vista because of this as well. My Lexmark printer/scanner won’t play nice with it either. So I am stuck using the mouse and keyboard that came with the computer I bought or nothing, and I don’t have a working printer.

I also think it is wrong that they are selling new PCs with Vista Home and 512 of ram, when even the stripped down Vista Home clearly needs at least a gig of ram to run smoothly enough to not be annoying -even when running basic things like a browse and email app. Granted, there is only one freeware app that I use which refuses to run in Vista Home, so I am able to get almost all of my apps to run ok with it so far. If this wasn’t the case, I would be forced to go out and buy a copy of XP and install it - though I am already very tempted to do that as things stand.

Vista is not worth the headaches right now. My advice is to stick with XP until they fix these driver issues and until you can afford to buy at least a gig of ram (preferably 2 gigs) for your machine.

I recently installed Vista Ultimate x64 (i was previously running ubuntu) on my laptop because due to work i have to use Dreamweaver and other apps such as Visual Studio. Well Dreamweaver worked for all of about 3 days, and now is determined not to work.

There are a few more apps that are causing me a headache, as for drivers most of them seem to be fine i think the only hardware im unable to use at the moment is the SD card reader in my laptop.

Great video cant believe i sat there and watched the full hour and it seemed to go so quickly.

I recently installed Vista Ultimate x64 (i was previously running ubuntu) on my laptop because due to work i have to use Dreamweaver and other apps such as Visual Studio. Well Dreamweaver worked for all of about 3 days, and now is determined not to work.

There are a few more apps that are causing me a headache, as for drivers most of them seem to be fine i think the only hardware im unable to use at the moment is the SD card reader in my laptop.

Great video cant believe i sat there and watched the full hour and it seemed to go so quickly.

I have had vista almost a week, i hate it and want xp. Half of the programs dont run, even MSN(microsofts own) doesnt work on it, i have to reinstall it about 10times, and i just got sick of reinstalling it. But when i try to install XP on it a blue screen, and says something about a CRITICAL ERROR. If anyone has had this issue and fixed it, or know what to do to fix it. Please email me.

Dustin

I have had vista almost a week, i hate it and want xp. Half of the programs dont run, even MSN(microsofts own) doesnt work on it, i have to reinstall it about 10times, and i just got sick of reinstalling it. But when i try to install XP on it a blue screen, and says something about a CRITICAL ERROR. If anyone has had this issue and fixed it, or know what to do to fix it. Please email me.

Dustin

I have a new lap top with Vista OS. I hate Vista, absolutely and im not a techy kind of guy. So when all this problem came in using vista i decided to switch to xp. ok, is it possible to switch back to XP eventhough my notebook is in Vista…Gosh im so clueless with this stuff…..HELP!!!!!!!

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Hi i think i have the solution for you had the same problem with my divx player program and worst of all my wireless adapter driver a forum said that the driver or the program that you’re using it’s still not compatible for window’s vista but can run in it. he showed me these steps to make a program avalible in windows vista still.Heres what you have to do to fix it first you have to right click the program .exe file or driver and click properties then go to the compatibillity tab and beneaith it’ll say run this program in combaitibillity mode whatever version of windows it’s avalible for click tha then it’ll work in windows vista but still not be comatible for windows vista I also heard this is only avalible for certain programs and almost all drivers that are avalible for windows 200 and xp and oh ya run it in secive pack 2 heres picks of it

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Hi i think i have the solution for you had the same problem with my divx player program and worst of all my wireless adapter driver a forum said that the driver or the program that you’re using it’s still not compatible for window’s vista but can run in it. he showed me these steps to make a program avalible in windows vista still.Heres what you have to do to fix it first you have to right click the program .exe file or driver and click properties then go to the compatibillity tab and beneaith it’ll say run this program in combaitibillity mode whatever version of windows it’s avalible for click tha then it’ll work in windows vista but still not be comatible for windows vista I also heard this is only avalible for certain programs and almost all drivers that are avalible for windows 200 and xp and oh ya run it in secive pack 2 heres picks of it

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I recently purchased an Acer laptop that came preinstalled with Vista and I did exactly as you did and “upgraded” the laptop to Windows XP. I had to do it for productivity reasons. I am a developer and hate all the Q & A every time I want to use Visual Studio and any other software that I install on my laptop.

The biggest virus magnet on XP was Internet Explorer. The key to reducing the virus attacks is to use Firefox and not to use IE. Since making FireFox by main browser it greatly reduced issues with viruses.

There are some interface look & feel that I like about Vista but that could have been an add-on theme added to the service pack. Even the kernel could have been hotfixed via a service pack. I really do not see Vista provide any real bang to user productivity and cannot seem to justify the expense.

You are absolutely correct that Microsoft should REDUCE the price of the base OS making it worth while to purchase. I cannot justify the expense that Microsoft wants me to shell out for Vista.

Thanks for your presentation because it justifies my reason for switching out Vista for XP.

I recently purchased an Acer laptop that came preinstalled with Vista and I did exactly as you did and “upgraded” the laptop to Windows XP. I had to do it for productivity reasons. I am a developer and hate all the Q & A every time I want to use Visual Studio and any other software that I install on my laptop.

The biggest virus magnet on XP was Internet Explorer. The key to reducing the virus attacks is to use Firefox and not to use IE. Since making FireFox by main browser it greatly reduced issues with viruses.

There are some interface look & feel that I like about Vista but that could have been an add-on theme added to the service pack. Even the kernel could have been hotfixed via a service pack. I really do not see Vista provide any real bang to user productivity and cannot seem to justify the expense.

You are absolutely correct that Microsoft should REDUCE the price of the base OS making it worth while to purchase. I cannot justify the expense that Microsoft wants me to shell out for Vista.

Thanks for your presentation because it justifies my reason for switching out Vista for XP.

I intall vista hp on my laptop vaio 5 times in the last month to get it work , but I still cant so I`m going back to xp.A lot a stuff ain`t working how they supost to,If i close the lid and open again the monitor ain`t gonna come back , I have to power down the computer manualy , this is just one tiny bug beleive me.My opinion about Vista OS : is eye candy and that`s all.

I intall vista hp on my laptop vaio 5 times in the last month to get it work , but I still cant so I`m going back to xp.A lot a stuff ain`t working how they supost to,If i close the lid and open again the monitor ain`t gonna come back , I have to power down the computer manualy , this is just one tiny bug beleive me.My opinion about Vista OS : is eye candy and that`s all.

Thanks for your vid. Yes, I did watch the whole thing. It was fulfilling to see another user/developer in frustration mode at Vista. Misery loves company. But like you said, we have choices. I just say the Leopard information and thought about what you said regarding OSX. If not for the expense, I would already be there. Just bought an HP 2.0 DuoCore and the damned thing is tatooed Vista. Great. I am now going to install dual boot software and try installing XP Pro on a partition. I hate Vista.

I bought two new computers with vista home premium, i have deleted vista from both computers and installed xp.
Vista just looks good and has all these fancy things i dont need, i dont like the fact that it eats memory and my programs run slower.

When i installed xp on my two new computers they both looked like they where supercharged.
All my programs run perfectly,i’m also a hardcore gamer and my games under windows ran slower and playing online was a joke.
Under vista the fps were 60fps as soon as i installed xp it shot up to 120 fps

Vista eats memory like macdonals givign away free burgers, its always hungry and wont stop.
Xp hardly used any memory and i had lots of memory to run my games, my games had no lag on line and everything runs perfectly.

Microsoft can keep vista, i want my pc to run fast and not slow like vista.
Too many bugs not enough drivers and a snail can out perform vista.
Alll the best Chris

Yep, I think I agree with pretty much everything I have read here. I, myself have persisted with Vista for quite some time (because my job as a software developer trying to support Vista pretty much demands it), and there’s even some things I like about it, but then there are some annoying little things I hate with a passion (like when I paste an icon near the bottom of my desktop it jumps to the top of the screen upsetting other icons I had layed out, just to name one). Vista really does appear to be a lot of hype and pain, for not much gain at all. Also I bought my machine to double as a gaming PC (for the few hours a month I find to do that kind of thing) and I tried it the other day, and it’s totally useless. Games freeze and crash. It was at that moment I realized that the image I kept of my previous XP install was going to be more useful than I had though it ever would be….

I’m running Windows Vista Home Premium and dual booting Ubuntu 7.04. Vista already knew all my hardware and I had no driver issues apart from my eyetoy which I use as my webcam. I’ve decided to buy a decent cam anyway. Media Center annoyed me a bit with its sluggishness. Apart from that it took 2 days off my calender but I now have a awesome system!

Damn, wish I could fix your problems though…

Cheers Chris!

Sincerely

Fatal1ty

I’m running Windows Vista Home Premium and dual booting Ubuntu 7.04. Vista already knew all my hardware and I had no driver issues apart from my eyetoy which I use as my webcam. I’ve decided to buy a decent cam anyway. Media Center annoyed me a bit with its sluggishness. Apart from that it took 2 days off my calender but I now have a awesome system!

Damn, wish I could fix your problems though…

Cheers Chris!

Sincerely

Fatal1ty

We purchased 3 Vista computers for our office and are very dissapointed.
All we want to do is get our work done and I find Vista’s graphics to be distracting and a drag on performance. The UAC (security) is a joke from my perspective. Imagine your Grandpa using a computer: “Grandpa, just click Continue when you get that security message.”; Then some malware asks Grandpa for permission to wipe out his hard drive and he clicks Continue because that’s what he was instructed to do. The key to success for Microsoft is to preserve backwards compatibility while offering new and better technology alternatives. Instead they have adopted an arrogant attitude towards their new technology which effectively abandons its end-user and developer customers. Microsoft is no longer the obvious choice for the business desktop and smart developers will look to developing software to run on alternate platforms such as Linux and Mac.

As computing in general gets older manufacturers support gets less and less. I remember when I had DOS 5 I had a manual almost an inch think, now I have XP and a pamphlet. Not a good report for Microsoft at all. It seems like there’s a new OS every year or so, sad indeed some thought used to go into OS’s, sadly that’s not more. Today you pay a couple hundred bucks for a Microsoft OS and HOPE someone will support it, Microsoft probably won’t. In this century it seems computers have gotten more complex and LESS reliable with less support. Now a days if your computer gives you trouble don’t fix it buy a new one. A throwaway society indeed.

Not me I build em and reload OS’s if I have to. Call me an old **** but…

As computing in general gets older manufacturers support gets less and less. I remember when I had DOS 5 I had a manual almost an inch think, now I have XP and a pamphlet. Not a good report for Microsoft at all. It seems like there’s a new OS every year or so, sad indeed some thought used to go into OS’s, sadly that’s not more. Today you pay a couple hundred bucks for a Microsoft OS and HOPE someone will support it, Microsoft probably won’t. In this century it seems computers have gotten more complex and LESS reliable with less support. Now a days if your computer gives you trouble don’t fix it buy a new one. A throwaway society indeed.

Not me I build em and reload OS’s if I have to. Call me an old **** but…

Well I entirely agree, I have just got two new machines, a laptop with vista home premium and a desktop which I had to get the operating system changed over to XP.
Let me explain, I got the laptop first and spent two weeks trying to get everything working. First Kaspersky internet suite did not work with Adobe Lightroom, so I downgraded to antivirus only, but photoshop cs2 had problems, so I tried a trial version of CS3, which was about 98% ok, but still crashed, the printer driver needed updating but at least was available (well done Epson). The Office XP assistant could not be changed (a bit much when even microsoft software will not run correctly). So to cut a long story short I made sure that the desktop came with XP.
I have now bought a copy of XP to put on the laptop, but will try vista again when service pack one becomes available, because despite its problems a quite like vista, but at the moment I just can’t live with an os that is not reliable when running my software.
My desktop is now here and happily running xp and all my normal apps with no problems and only took just over a day to get setup. The conculsion is that I just feel safe with xp and find that vista just makes me feel uncomfortable.

Regards
Angus Mobsby

Well I entirely agree, I have just got two new machines, a laptop with vista home premium and a desktop which I had to get the operating system changed over to XP.
Let me explain, I got the laptop first and spent two weeks trying to get everything working. First Kaspersky internet suite did not work with Adobe Lightroom, so I downgraded to antivirus only, but photoshop cs2 had problems, so I tried a trial version of CS3, which was about 98% ok, but still crashed, the printer driver needed updating but at least was available (well done Epson). The Office XP assistant could not be changed (a bit much when even microsoft software will not run correctly). So to cut a long story short I made sure that the desktop came with XP.
I have now bought a copy of XP to put on the laptop, but will try vista again when service pack one becomes available, because despite its problems a quite like vista, but at the moment I just can’t live with an os that is not reliable when running my software.
My desktop is now here and happily running xp and all my normal apps with no problems and only took just over a day to get setup. The conculsion is that I just feel safe with xp and find that vista just makes me feel uncomfortable.

Regards
Angus Mobsby

Yes, every OS sucks… except for the mythological Google OS, that is. Some day, perhaps…

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Thank you all for the banter ! You just convinced me that my new desktop is going to be one that works ….. so it will have XP Professional for sure .

VWRA

Hey Chris,

I’m a pro residential estate photographer (multi gig daily workflow, adobe bridge, photoshop ect..) built a quad core raid0 system this month and opted for Vista…2 weeks later…Can’t find my Microsoft Mouse driver??, Western Digital My Book external driver issue, HP Printer driver issue, Sony Optical DvD burner no driver..more like can’t find it..just buggy…and it goes on and on.. The base os seems fine..It just has no eyes, ears or touch LOL. My computer is my work truck to me. It’s gota work, I don’t need pretty, just a firm ride, a stout motor and the ability to be ridden hard and put away wet. Vista comes off tommorow and XP home goes back on. Wanted to make it work, but a computer is not a game to me..it’s a living. Thanks for your blog
Shawn Cordon, Simi Valley, CA

True, Vista is not that bad. But is not good enough yet to make me wan’t to upgrade. Speed is King for me, and my XP is faster, by any benchmark, on my current PC. I also have a desktop with Ubuntu which is fantastic
Benchmarks speak louder than words.
You got to check this benchmarks. They are in my page TekhnokraticJunkie under my “Time for a downgrade?” article.
Nice content, long video.

Hey Chris how did you get your name to be the first in google?.

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