Windows Vista RC1: a Piece of Sith

One word: Zimbra.

Would you agree that OS X UI has a simliar “schizophrenic” nature? Stripes, brushed metal, mail, etc…

Welcome back. Regarding PIMs for Mac OS X–have you looked at Now Up to Date. (I haven’t, but Pogue raves about it, and i’m tempted.)

What is your gold standard for desktop PIM on Windows?

[...] Robert Scoble recently posted about his (and other’s) prasie for release candidate 1 (RC1) of Vista. On the other hand Chris Pirillo thinks it’s more of an alpha release, not even close to being a release candidate. [...]

[...] Quote - (tenaciousgeek @ Sep 3 2006, 10:18) Where can I read or listen to what Chris Pirillo says?http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/09/02/window…-piece-of-sith/ [...]

“99% of Windowblinds skins are bloated and inelegant”
I beg to differ. How many Windowblinds skins have you actually taken a look at? There are thousands, maybe millions produced over the net, and some of them are really much much better than Apple Macintosh’s GUI can ever hope to achieve. For you to make such a tactless comment, you must have obviously restricted yourself to looking at the lower grade skins produced by beginners and/or novices.

By the way, if by bloated you mean slow, I’d like to highlight to you that with Windowblinds 5 installed and running with a skin loaded on my Windows XP Pro SP2 I had no noticable performance difference compared to without it, and that’s not to say that my computer has advanced hardware. It’s almost three years old now, with:

Pentium 4 2.66GHz processor,
512 MB DDR RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 4 MX 440 AGP 8X 64MB Video Memory

Granted Vista is definitely not “there” yet. But that doesn’t mean it’s a piece of sith (****?) either. The fonts, contrary to what you said, is actually quite good, like the consola font, which I actually are using across all my IDE as I speak. Vista’s looks is far from being perfect, but so far, Vista UI is the coolest UI I’ve ever seen, with the glass effect and all, while its practicality is debatable, it’s by far the coolest interface from Redmond. And that’s saying a lot.

It’s time for alternatives.

Just installed Ubuntu as a dual boot, and it seems both easier to use and more intuitive than XP. Vista seems bloated, buggy, and expensive ($259 to upgrade, but you’ll probably need a new PC anyway, meanwhile Ubuntu happily runs of my P3.)

My Ubuntu laptop arrives soon.

This marks the day in which I unsubscribe to Pirillo’s content.

Chris, I wish you would hurry up and switch to SOMETHING else, because I for one am sick of hearing you whine about Microsoft software.

BORING

I’ve used Entourage, which is the Mac Office pim application. I have to admit it’s a lot better than Outlook.

All u do is whine whine whine….get a life

[...] UI Inconsistency Part 2: Chris Pirillo discusses RC1’s lack of UI changes – which include “fit-and-finish�? and efforts to fix UI inconsistency. Chris says RC1 feels a lot like a early beta and goes even far enough to say it even feels like an early alpha build. I disagree. The performance enhancements and stability of the OS displayed in RC1 are too good to ignore and too good for any beta or alpha build. [...]

You are no longer a geek or for that matter even a nerd. You have become a 3rd grader who whines when you doesn’t get your way. Whines when there is something you don’t like. Whines when you think no one is listening. Go ahead and have the temper tantrum, we are ignoring you

Ah yes, UNO for Mac OS X is lovely. When I arrive at a Mac without it installed, I’m befuddled by all the interface weirdness Apple keeps foisting on us. With with UNO, all is good. Well, most. We’ll see how Leopard is.

I’m with you, Chris. I see some new UI elements of Vista that are truly compelling - for example I think that the newer dialog boxes with clearly stated “Do this” or “Do this instead” are great. Unfortunately, you get new UI in one place and old UI in another. What’s worse is when they just put new UI on top of old UI - just forcing you to do one or more extra steps for no good reason (”Personalization” Control Panel for example.)

I think most of the people that think Vista RC1 is awesome are the type of people that only ever turn on their computer and then click on their web browser or a couple other apps and that’s it. But people like me that use the system for much deeper things and frequently have to delve into all kinds of system settings, etc. are going to feel let down as you say.

I hope that they take the extra time to polish this to one consistent interface but unfortunately I just don’t expect it to happen.

I work for a very large company that supports end users and I’m scared about having to explain many parts of this UI to the average Joe.

Unsubscribed.

[...] Reaction to RC1 over the weekend, and the official announcement of pricing was notably mixed. Some pointed to the scant ten percent discount families would receive on volume licensing as a major issue.”Microsoft’s pricing people quite obviously don’t understand how significantly family-friendly bundles would increase adoption rates, and it’s a real shame,” Robert McLaws wrote for LonghornBlogs.com. “I’m beating the drum to some of my executive contacts at Microsoft, doing everything I can to get them to readdress this issue before RTM.” Longtime Microsoft cheerleader Paul Thurrott said Vista’s inconsistencies are a huge problem with the OS. “What’s up with the glaringly inconsistent UI across Windows Vista and all of its applications?” he wrote in a post to Windows SuperSite on Monday. “Why isn’t there a team of people just working on consistency issues?”Blogger Chris Pirillo seemed to agree. “Sadly, the first release candidate for Windows Vista feels more like an alpha to me (or early beta, at best),” he wrote. “No, it’s all about a cohesive user experience / user interface for me. Vista fails on most UI fronts.”Not all was negative. Microsoft MVP Brandon LeBlanc said that Vista “is on the right track,” although he said the biggest problem facing Microsoft is driver support issues.”If Microsoft can help hardware manufacturers develop better driver support and make a huge effort to make Vista’s UI shine-up, I think Vista can easily become the biggest Windows release since Windows 95,” LeBlanc mused. [...]

[...] Chris Pirillo gives his brief thoughts on RC1 here. [...]

I can’t believe that people are complaining about whining on a blog. Isn’t that what they are for?

It would be interesting if Chris would update his previous list of problems with an earlier Vista beta to see how many, if any, they have changed.

[...] http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/09/02/windows-vista-rc1-a-piece-of-sith/ [...]

automatically downloaded and installed a new display driver that let me experience Vista in its Aero glory (transparency effects, cool transitions, full-preview alt-tab UI and new windows-tab 3D UI) I happily pronounce it pretty cool. Chris Pirillo didn’t like it as much, but he’s a tough customer. While I have no doubt that Vista will appeal to many people and serve as an improvement over XP’s now tired-looking UI, I’ll still stick with a Mac. I converted 3 1/2 years ago and see no reason to go back to

[...] Sempre nello stesso articolo, inoltre, si citano alcune recensioni dell’ultima RC1 rilasciata qualche settimana fa al grande pubblico, recensioni che per inciso non sono molto favorevoli… [...]

[...] I’ve been taking a lot of heat for my recent remarks on Windows Vista. As you very well know, I’ve been a “Windows Fanatic” from darn near the very beginning. Times have changed, and I’m now finding myself disillusioned by the lack of attention Microsoft is paying to user interfaces. I could excuse the shortcomings of Windows XP - but I’m not even close to forgiving the development team for slapping together such a hapless, schizophrenic experience in Windows Vista. It’s lipstick on a pig. Vista is nothing new, Vista is nothing revolutionary - it’s full of shims and hacks, and you need to understand that before swallowing the marketing hype. With his permission, I’m going to share with you an email I received from an old friend tonight: classic mode, gui, microsoft, microsoft windows, operating system, os, translucent, ui, user experience, user interface, ux, vista, windows, windows environment, windows vista [...]

Boy, I never thought it would happen after so many years. I unsubscribed to Pirillo’s content (newsletter, feeds).
Your latest rant about Vista made me do it, Chris. I’m sorry for your co-writers (some are really good), but your personal contributions are more and more uninteresting and unintelligent. Hardly anything substantial, just whining. Grow up, be a man and do something useful!

get a mac, c’mon you know you like giselle….

here’s the get a mac link

So let me get this straight. You people stick around when Chris suggests that the events of 9/11 were covered up as part of a conspiracy or something about UFOs, but when he says Vista sucks you leave?

[...] Anche Chris Pirillo ne parla male, dicendo che [...]

[...] “The last thing I wanted to do upon returning from Alaska was rip Windows Vista ‘Ultimate’ a new one. I also don’t want to go through my list of Vista UI nitpicks, as several of them still have not been addressed - and likely never will be. Even after installing RC1, I find myself feeling… disappointed and dejected,” Chris Pirillo blogs. MacDailyNews Note: Chris Pirillo is the founder of Lockergnome. He spent two years hosting the TechTV (now known as G4) television program Call for Help before parting ways from the company. He also hosted the first annual Call-for-Help-a-Thon on TechTV. Pirillo writes, “Sadly, the first release candidate for Windows Vista feels more like an alpha to me (or early beta, at best). I’m not talking about performance issues, which will most likely be improved upon before this OS goes gold. No, it’s all about a cohesive user experience / user interface for me. Vista fails on most UI fronts. It doesn’t look or behave similarly across any part of the operating system. Even more sad? That’s by design, folks.” “Vista is schizophrenic, and that disorder has been further enabled by the range of vigilante software development teams who are providing code to the core without cross-checking with other teams for UI consistency,” Pirillo writes. “If OS X had a decent desktop PIM, I think Vista would push me to switch.” Full article here. [Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader "AWidgetIHaveNot" for the heads up.] MacDailyNews Take: Chris, you’re not switching because of a PIM?! Two words: Stockholm Syndrome. And, for Jobs sake, will someone please tell us which version of Microsoft Windows wasn’t “disappointing, schizophrenic, disordered, inconsistent, and sad?” Why the surprise exactly? If you keep waiting for Microsoft to finally copy the Mac even remotely successfully, you’ll never, ever Get a Mac. Macintosh. Because life’s too short. Advertisements: • Get the new Mac mini with Intel Core Duo, now 5-times faster.  From just $599 with free shipping at the Apple Store. • The super-fast, blogging, podcasting, do-everything-out-of-the-box MacBook.  Starting at just $1099. • Check out Apple’s New iMac Family: 17, 20, 24-inch widescreen models.  Now with Intel Core 2 Duo. Buy now. • Get the MacBook Pro with Intel Core Duo for as low as $47 A MONTH with Free Shipping! • The New Mac Pro from Apple - as low as $57 a month! • iPod. 15,000 songs. 25,000 photos. 150 hours of video. The new iPod. 30GB and 60GB models start at just $299. Free shipping. • Connect iPod to your television set with the iPod AV Cable. Just $19. • iPod Radio Remote. Listen to FM radio on your iPod and control everything with a convenient wired remote. Just $49. Related articles:Pirillo critiques Windows Vista with long lists of mistakes - May 30, 2006 Defending Windows over Mac a sign of mental illness - December 20, 2003 [...]

If I were you Chris I would get a Mac anyway. It can also run Windows if you are tied to any custom Windows Apps. As far as a PIM is concerned a friend of mine swears my Daylite (www.marketcircle.com/). It’s apparently bloody fantastic!

Anyway. As the editor of macdailynews.com always says in these situations: “If you keep waiting for Microsoft to finally copy the Mac even remotely successfully, you’ll never, ever Get a Mac.
Why Macintosh? Because life’s too short!”

http://www.marketcircle.com/daylite/DPS.html

“it’s by far the coolest interface from Redmond. And that’s saying a lot.”

I believe you meant “But that’s not saying much”. Just correcting for the sake of clarity.

agreed. i was suprised to see the lack of consistency. after valentine and balmer trumpted their vastly improved dev processes with windows server 2003, i expected more from an OS in dev for five years.

vista has some good new features, but its a frozen turkey that may never make it to the table. windows ME 2.0.

happy for a new OS, but disappointed in microsoft’s ability to execute. i have huge respect for the company and what they’ve brought the world. but, time for new leadership.

-joey

Sad but true, Vista need 6 to 12 months more work. I just don’t get what the big rush is, I mean do a good job otherwise most companies won’t use it or will wait until SP2 is released.

What sort of Mac OS X PIM are you looking for? There’s plenty of PIM’s available for Mac OS X, including Microsoft’s own Entourage which communicates with Exchange Servers. Then there’s the excellent Now Up-To-Date and Now Contact bundle, which we really love. And lots of people swear by SOHO Organizer. There’s also Palm Desktop, Meeting Maker, Marketcircle Daylite, and of course let’s not forget about Apple’s own iCal & Address Book. Go to versiontracker.com and do a “Mac OS X” search for PIM - and you’ll find several other shareware PIM programs as well.

Wow. Harsh words in here.
Guys, he’s just calling a spade a spade. Give the guy a frelling break.
Next to Apple’s OSX Vista is a dog’s dinner.
Tell me why I would need to have slightly transparent edges on explorer windows??
Problem is, Chris has seen and used OSX, and is coming to the conclusion that the OS HE has to use for the next 5-8 years from Micros**t looks like it was designed by high schoolers.
Sure OSX has it’s faults and is not as business friendly but I have had features for two or three years that Vista is just now geting around to introducing.
Keep in mind here that we’re just talking about computers here, not life or death.
OSX Tiger on an Intel machine is just awesome; fast, slick and virus free.
Vista is going to be soooo pointless once Apple brings out Leopard.

If you’re looking for a PIM for OS X you can do a search at http://osx.hyperjeff.net/Apps/ and see if they have anything you like - plus browse through the 16,000+ other OS X apps that are listed.

Hate to say it, but MS is in the hot seat with Vista. After the delays the expectations will be very high and will be difficult to meet.

Will Vista have any kind of effects plugin API? I mean, cmon, surely Microsoft figured that Linux and Apple already / would eventually outdo them in the eye candy department. Isn’t there a way to hook into the DWM / shell and add most of the really cool things we see in other UI’s? If not, that’s a huge mistake. I predict it will take less than 2 years before Vista’s UI becomes ghetto. The shame is that you can see the potential in things like Flip3D. But would take a coder mere days to produce something way cooler if he had the API.

My specific Vista UI grips are:

1. Window management still sucks, even with Flip3D. Excuse me, but no window docking / layout management???? ********!!
2. Sidebar gadgets either hog screen space are are uselessly behind other windows. Using opacity just makes them and the contents under them unreadable. ********!!!
3. No built-in virtual desktop? ********!!!!

Fess up, folks. How many of you work for Microsoft or for a company that is paid directly by Microsoft? And while we are at it, how many bear that relationship to Apple?

Will you people please start proofreading your posts before you post them? You all look like you took typing from a crack-head coming off a weekend binge!

[...] Pirillo writes in his blog, “Vista is schizophrenic, and that disorder has been further enabled by the range of vigilante software development teams who are providing code to the core without cross-checking with other teams for UI consistency.” [...]

So, Chris is disappointed and dejected because he considers Vista “disjointed by design�?, “schizophrenic�?, “disordered�?, “inconsistent�?, “bloated�?, and “inelegant�?. And yet, our intrepid writer, will CONTINUE to patronize Microsoft.

After reading Chris’ denigration of Vista to be followed with his casual acknowledgment that he can think of no reasonable alternative for an OS, I have to conclude that Chris’ justification for choosing Vista as his only tenable OS is “disjointed by design�?, “schizophrenic�?, “disordered�?, “inconsistent�?, “bloated�?, and “inelegant�?.

Excellent choice, Chris, you and Vista are a perfect match! Why do I have the image of Chris submissively squirming on Ballmer’s lap being fed rancid doggie treats while Ballmer coos, “Are you my good boy? Yes, you’re my good boy. Yes you are.”?

[...] No, this did not come from me but from Owen Thomas of Business 2.0 Magazine. If you check out other reviews from the likes of Chris Pirillo and Paul Thurott, it seems like boycotting Vista is the best thing to do until Microsoft gets their acts straight. [...]

[...] Well, maybe review is to strong of a word for the article Chris Pirillo wrote about Windows Vista RC1, he mainly talks about the OS looking schizophrenic, as he says it’s all about the UI, user interface, for hiim. Sadly, the first release candidate for Windows Vista feels more like an alpha to me (or early beta, at best). I’m not talking about performance issues, which will most likely be improved upon before this OS goes gold. No, it’s all about a cohesive user experience / user interface for me. Vista fails on most UI fronts. It doesn’t look or behave similarly across any part of the operating system. Even more sad? That’s by design, folks. [...]

Chris, I appreciate your willingness to be trasnparent and honest. I’m a lifelong Mac fanatic… but I appreciate the UI elements and other good ideas Windows has delivered to the desktop operating system market. VISTA has some cool ideas but I am really looking for Microsoft to push Apple to break the snooze its been in over the last 6 years. Mac OS X must move forward with a new UI and I’m looking to Suse, Ubuntu and Microsoft to push Apple to do what it does best… innovate.

[...] Chris, yesterday, wrote a post on how he feels that Linux’s GNOME running XGL is far better than the UI in Windows Vista. He encouraged folks to download and try out the technology themselves and see what he is talking about. He’s also discussed in a comparison as to why OS X “Leopard” is better than Windows Vista. And after his Alaskan vacation, he comes back and calls the recently released RC1 of Windows Vista a “piece of Sith”. [...]

Chris,

Your biased views are clearly noticeable. Windows Vista is to date the best operating system by Microsoft.

PC beats the Mac by far! And those retarded mac vs pc commercials are technically illegal.

I’m glad that someone is calling Microsoft out on this, and I’m extremely surprised that there aren’t more people standing up and saying anything.

I’ve been a Microsoft fan for a long time, but my faith is starting to show cracks: they may have pushed “good enough” a bit too far this time.

these blogs are starting to get whinier and more whiny than ever. i don’t need to read much more here.

So, the Windows Vista RC1 UI is “schizophrenic” says Chris Pirillo in this post

Chris Pirillo makes some comments about Windows Vista similar to those that I made some time ago about the lack of cohesiveness and vision in the product. I’m sure that there was a vision at one time or another, but that the vision became impossible to maintain when so many pieces of

Complaining in someone’s forum that someone is whining in their blog — what is more whiny than that? You, the real whiners, are clearly just upset that he was critiquing Vista. Babies. It’s his blog. This IS the place for him to speak his peace. Geez.

Chris Pirllo: Windows Vista RC1: a Piece of Sith So here goes with my take, I am not going to compare every item with Beta 2, just leave a global comment that it is better in every way!

[...] Chris Pirillo on Vista Several links of interest. This is coming from someone who has traditionally been a Windows enthusiast, and some of his readers (see his site) - one of the people quoted is me - but nevertheless, I felt compelled to share these links and stir some discussion and to make people think. Windows Vista Opinions Microsoft vs. Apple Windows Vista Thoughts The Vista Bashing Bandwagon Windows Vista - Lipstick on a Pig Windows Vista RC1 - A Piece of Sith Last edited by AnthonyKinyon : Today at 10:11 PM. [...]

Windows Vista is massively disappointing. Windows Vista impresses critics. Same build, for those of you keeping score at home. Technorati Tags: windows vista, strange, ironic

Windows Vista is massively disappointing. Windows Vista impresses critics. Same build, for those of you keeping score at home. Technorati Tags: windows vista, strange, ironic

success on the desktop, plain and simple. I would think that, being a savvy businessman, Chris would understand this. Personally, I think Chris has a lot of valuable things to say. As well founded as his UI gripes may be, his feedback on Vista would be far more valuable if he accepted the reality of the situation and focused on problems that actually stand a chance of getting fixed at this point in the game. Acknowledging the fact that Microsoft has made huge strides

success on the desktop, plain and simple. I would think that, being a savvy businessman, Chris would understand this. Personally, I think Chris has a lot of valuable things to say. As well founded as his UI gripes may be, his feedback on Vista would be far more valuable if he accepted the reality of the situation and focused on problems that actually stand a chance of getting fixed at this point in the game. Acknowledging the fact that Microsoft has made huge strides

[...] It’s Showtime! Kinda… Maybe… September 07, 2006 Consensus in the rumorsphere seems to be that Apple’s “Showtime!” announcement next week will include a deal with studios to add full-length movies to the iTunes Music Store. (Hey, Steve, it may be time to rename that online media emporium, hmm…?) However, over on MacNewsWorld you’ll read that “The company is believed to have signed up most of the major Hollywood studios to the scheme,” while Variety says that “The only studio that will definitely be part of Apple’s movie store at launch is Disney.” Who’s correct? We’ll find out next Thursday at 10:00 a.m. Probably. Maybe. Whatever. Two interesting notes, however, are a recent Apple patent filing that provides an insight into a multi-functional future, and the upgrading of the iMovie trademark to include “communications and telecommunications services, entertainment and education services, provision of electronic publications,” and more. In any case, Apple has a lot of competitors nipping at its heels, but the smart money over at Bloomberg opines that “Apple’s easy-to-use software and **** hardware … are a killer combination that will prove hard to dislodge.” We couldn’t agree more. In other Apple news: It seems Apple has admitted that the reports of MacBooks shutting down on their own are true, albeit in what may be the shortest tech note of all time — but, as Ars Technica points out, it’s at least an admission that “the random shutdowns are an actual problem instead of PEBCAK.” Remaining on the Switcher offensive, Apple has also launched a blockbuster print-ad campaign, possibly to capitalize on all the good press they’ve been getting about the new Core 2 Duo iMacs, and the upcoming Leopard version of Mac OS X. Speaking of Switchers, if you’re exploring running Windows on your Intel Mac, check out Windows X net, a new “Windows Website dedicated to being Mac Friendly.” In final Apple news, The Inquirer is of the opinion that Intel’s recently released laptop chip, formerly code-named Merom, won’t appear in Apple laptops until next year, and coconut-flavour.com has released the latest version of their coconutIdentityCard, a nifty little app that’ll tell you “where and when your Mac and your iPod were built.” In other other news: Our favorite text editor, BBEdit, has risen to version 8.5, one Vista beta tester calls that operating system’s latest release candidate “a piece of Sith,” the latest Blackberry adds a camera and MP3 player, and Robert X. Cringely fears we’re more interested in power than safety when it comes to batteries.     » » Comment on today’s news » » [...]

[...] Why Vista’s UI Isn’t Cooler, or Take a Deep Breath Chris Posted Saturday, September 16, 2006 2:58 AM by Robert McLaws | 11 Comments Filed under: User Interface Larry Osterman (ya, the same Larry Osterman that got bit by the Audio bug) has a great post on why XGL isn’t as useful as Chris Pirillo thinks it is. Can you imagine the tech support calls from the receptionist at XYZ Paper Company in Diluth, complaining that her app keeps crashing when it’s really on the other side of the “desktop cube”? I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: OS X can afford to take creative liberties with it’s OS’ visual stylings because a) most of its users are right-brained creative types that value visual appearance over usefulness, b) its userbase is so small that drastic changes only have minimal overall impact, and c) even fewer businesses rely on Macs, so the retraining issues there are minimal as well. The bottom line is, pretty does not always equal practical. Plus, Microsoft has other considerations, like the financial impact of UI changes on companies adopting their software. (Too bad calculating this impact is not as simple as it was in 1995). The Windows UI is the victim of Microsoft’s monopoly success on the desktop, plain and simple. I would think that, being a savvy businessman, Chris would understand this. Personally, I think Chris has a lot of valuable things to say (and while singling out Chris, I’m also speaking to other UI detractors as well). As well founded as his UI gripes may be, his feedback on Vista would be far more valuable if he accepted the reality of the situation and focused on problems that actually stand a chance of getting fixed at this point in the game. Acknowledging the fact that Microsoft has made huge strides in the fit & finish department might also be appropriate. Share this post [...]

[...] I’ve been taking a lot of heat for my recent remarks on Windows Vista. As you very well know, I’ve been a “Windows Fanatic” from darn near the very beginning. Times have changed, and I’m now finding myself disillusioned by the lack of attention Microsoft is paying to user interfaces. I could excuse the shortcomings of Windows XP - but I’m not even close to forgiving the development team for slapping together such a hapless, schizophrenic experience in Windows Vista. It’s lipstick on a pig. Vista is nothing new, Vista is nothing revolutionary - it’s full of shims and hacks, and you need to understand that before swallowing the marketing hype. With his permission, I’m going to share with you an email I received from an old friend tonight: In all fairness / honesty I have not tried Vista RC1 at this point, but I did try out beta 2 which wasn’t that long ago. I was mostly not impressed. I just expected it to be better after all the years MS has had to create and refine it… I don’t consider myself a Microsoft hater or fanboy per say either… if the product is good I say so, if I think it sucks, I say so. But I’m honest. MS could have done a better job. Sure, Vista is a HUGE undertaking, but when you have that many employees (that many programmers too) and such deep financial reserves, to turn out a somewhat lacking or mediocre product is unacceptable. I’m not saying all of Vista is bad… but again it could have been a lot better. Even Paul T. (who wrote the article) basically said so, in so many words. And he is a pretty big Windows / Microsoft fan. [...]

i have to say that you will only find trouble in vista if you go looking for it! ive been running it for a couple of months now ( i think! ) its a great OS… As far as a i can remember i had one problem when i installed my TV card, but i used the wrong drivers anyway! as for the unconsistancy yeh i can see it in a few places but ure makin a big deal outa that! it is still RC1… gonna be a while ( and lots of tweaks ) before the final release!
i use plenty of varying applications so i can use the majority of the features… i dont see much going wrong!

The problem with Vista really is in general, part of what this article states. Having been a Windows use from the beginning until 2 months ago, I had tried to defend the company and its software. But there comes a point when you start to realize that something really isn’t as good and as reliable as you might try to convince yourself of. So when I was literally turned off by the Vista look, feel, paranoid nagging, and sort of cold environment, I decided to finally give a Linux live desktop a try. You see, you just won’t believe it until you experience it. The control, flexibility, and stable reliability without all the patches, virus protection, spyware defense and on and on is simply a remarkable breath of fresh air. Linux, in my opinion, leaves Apple and Microsoft in the dust. As for Vista, it’s a dud and may turn out to be Microsoft’s biggest flop. this is what I call a product produced from paranoia and panic…..if I was still a Windows user I’d stick with XP……..

[...] But I don’t blame the third-party vendors. I can hardly expect them to do any better when design barely makes the top 10 priority list for any player in the PC industry. Microsoft is about the only company that’s in a position to set PC design standards, and they’re not trying very hard. Who else can lead the way on design? Dell? IBM? Compaq? NVIDIA? Gateway? Please. There are no design leaders in the PC world. There’s nobody for these third-party vendors to look to as the gold standard of design. There’s only the lukewarm, inconsistent, half-hearted design guidelines that Microsoft sets– and frequently breaks themselves. [...]

Windows 3.1 Add Font Dialog Still In Vista - Bink.nu Forums No? How about a more common interface problem? At least I’m not alone in my apprehension. Chris Prillo describes Vista as ‘lipstick on a pig‘, or the OS iteration of the Phantom Menace. Not that it will matter. People who think cases like these are cool will buy it in droves because it’s cheap - or so we thought. Here are a few bits to mull over: Common retail price for Windows 95: $89.95

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It’s incongruous. There is no unifying aesthetic theme. Lipstick on a pig? Yes. But more like lipstick on an odd assortment of hog parts where the desktop’s the boar’s head and Aero’s the lipstick. IE 7 is so ugly it’s embarrasing that it ships with Vista.

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