Windows Vista and SATA Drives
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A recent caller to the 888-PIRILLO line had trouble with his Vista Home Premium machine just after applying Windows updates. It began showing his internal hard drive and DVD write drive as removable devices… such as a SATA drive or USB device.
I had a friend who happens to work at the company that had given us Vista. He was explaining a situation that he had encountered with the same round of updates. His mom’s machine no longer can connect to the Internet… and they cannot figure out why. Keep in mind, this man is a power-user, and very knowledgable with computers.
A chat member asked if they are SATA drives, and they are indeed. It could be a Motherboard issue, picking them up as External instead of Internal drive. He’s using an NVIDIA Nforce chipset. I’ve seen many conflicts between Vista and NVIDIA, unfortunately. This may not be the root of the issue, but that could very well be the case.
If you click on “system” in control panel and click on “device manager”, click on “hardware” tab, you should see your SATA drive under “disk drives”. Click on the sata drive name. Click on the “Policies” tab and you will see two radio buttons that could be ticked. If the top one is ticked, you won’t have the USB icon in the tray because it is set for quick removal. If you have the bottom one ticked, it is set for performance and you will see the USB icon. You can choose whatever you want, just check the disk performance if you choose the top, quick removal button.
Hopefully, this will help fix up the issue for him, and others!
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kinglacho
March 1st, 2008
at 1:05am
Let me tell you that I have personally never had any of those kinds of troubles with neither the Windows Vista Basic nor Business editions, I don’t know what might the case be with Home Premium, since that’s the case you’re posting on… but as long as I have come to know, Vista does come with integrated support for SATA drives, or at least with the original versions. If you are running on a pirated version of Vista, then that might be the reason why, if not, then it just might be a motherboard problem, just as you mentioned.
JackWebster
March 1st, 2008
at 1:31am
Yeah…I’m a bit skeptical about using SATA with Vista, heard of there being lots of BSoD’s from it.
Jack
Wookie
March 1st, 2008
at 1:32am
It is normal for SATA devices to show up in the “Safely Remove Hardware” box. The Safely Remove Hardware window does not indicate that the device or drive in internal or external. It is also this way on a fresh install of Vista.
Jesse
Here is a picture. http://www.putfile.com/pic/7759729
Max Kantola
March 1st, 2008
at 3:13am
Heh, I had quite a bit of trouble with my drive when Vista was in RC1. Took a while to get it working, not to mention the manufacturer had the wrong drivers on the included CD with the motherboard.
Allen Harkleroad
March 1st, 2008
at 3:33am
I’ve had numerous issues with both EIDE and SATA external drives with Vista and I have had Vista reset SATA’s to foreign drives which required me to re-import them via the drive manager.
Chris
March 1st, 2008
at 3:48am
If its SATA II, Hot Plug ability is part of the spec, so that completely makes sense.
phantomdata
March 1st, 2008
at 5:43am
If I’m not mistaken, Vista is reporting those drives correctly. SATA can be hot-swapped and you can have an externally connected drive ran over SATA. I know that my motherboard specifically has an extra card-slot bay cover designed to allow SATA pass through and if I wanted to, I could “safely remove” my operating system disk from my system. ;p
dantheman61
March 1st, 2008
at 2:28pm
i have some thing to say about this, when you go to safely remove hardware it does not say that those are usb but that you can safely remove the drive.
ColdAchilles
March 1st, 2008
at 5:31pm
very interesting, thanks for the video chris.
i never really have had any problems with my vista home premium
Stephe
March 1st, 2008
at 6:22pm
Pretty frustrating. I still haven’t figured out how to boot my Vista Media Center without the freakin Vista DVD in the DVD drive.
I have, however, migrated my main work and life system to a sweet new Macbook Pro. Halleluyah!
Carinder
March 2nd, 2008
at 4:55am
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gman649
March 5th, 2008
at 5:51am
vista is awsome
Tutchmydog
March 5th, 2008
at 6:16am
what is vista? an operating system seperate from windows xp? or another internet application like internet explorer and mozilla?
niksinthe916
March 7th, 2008
at 8:43pm
dude vista is an os duh lol if u cant find that out dont even try to run it lol
defaultname365
March 8th, 2008
at 2:54pm
Windows Vista is great. Looking each and every issue you are facing, there is a reason for it. Let’s say, Internet Explorer 7 constantly crashes. By emptying the cache and deleting browsing history, it puts less load on the browser. Using Disk Cleanup greatly improves stability of Internet Explorer 7.
As for sluggishness, there is nothing else to blame except hardware. You need the right hardware to run Vista. Even if you do have a low-end machine, using Vista great improves security.
Thanks.
753159852456sage
March 8th, 2008
at 8:09pm
I’m running XP and it thought my SATA Hard Drive was a removable device
Alex13N
March 14th, 2008
at 1:42am
Hahahahaha xD The way Chris takes his head down the second he says “Vista” xD
TalesOfWar
March 15th, 2008
at 2:05am
My SATA drives come up in the “safely remove hardware” list too, I’m running XP. I just think Microsoft are slacking with the whole SATA thing, maybe it’s set up so it’s classed as “removeable” because you can get eSATA and the system can’t actually distinguish between internal or external seeing as technically there isn’t as far as connections go.
splashdown876
March 15th, 2008
at 10:49pm
you are such a computer nerd
sonicgear93
March 16th, 2008
at 10:36pm
I have vista and my hard disk is also shown as removable device. Its normal and even if you click safely remove, it will not remove them. This is also the same on XP.
anerisgreat
March 17th, 2008
at 1:17am
My hard drive (I used vista) was SATA and 30GB of storage just POOFED away.
TalesOfWar
March 17th, 2008
at 4:34am
You always lose some space when you format a drive, assuming that’s what you mean. If you have a 160gb drive it’ll typically be 150gb when formatted, it’ just the way binary works.
anerisgreat
March 17th, 2008
at 4:46am
No, no format. Just, lost a ton of space. Did nothing to it. Woke up one day and POOF it’s there. (Excuse me for the overuse of POOF). It was a 110 gig hard drive, and suddenly it told me I was using all of it up (30 gigs gone, another 50 gigs for backup which I couldn’t delete (I found it out after they backed everything up on a new hard drive, the “invisible” file was just SITTING there. And I was genuinely using 30 gigs). NOT a format issue.
TalesOfWar
March 17th, 2008
at 4:51am
Odd, sounds like it partitioned itself without adding a file system so it can be used. I’ve seen it happen before but I did it myself by mistake and not the comp doing an “oh I’ll do it for fun without being told!” thing.
anerisgreat
March 17th, 2008
at 4:56am
Computer guy who replaced the hard drive said it happens to one third of the hard drives. I kind of doubt that… Hard drive is still usable (gonna convert it into an external hard drive) it’s just that I would like to have a ton of memory.
computergeek161
March 20th, 2008
at 6:53am
First make sure that it is pluged in and the cables are in right! And then get access to an account with admin rights
Go to administrative tools and go to computer management. Goto storage , Disk management. Then on the bottom find your disk and say repartition it. or do what you want but at the end you need to right click on it and say Change drive letter and path and give it a letter… then goto windows explorer (not internet explorer) and it should be in there
anerisgreat
March 20th, 2008
at 4:44pm
Well the drive is sitting on my desk, I am running XP of another hard drive that my computer tech guy put in for me. It’s great now, no probs. But I am gonna hook it up as an external drive (once my cables get here), if it still has the problem I will follow your advice. Thanks!
fullekin
March 21st, 2008
at 1:46am
I just get this dell inspiron 531 with windows vista home premium, all the plugs for hard drive or dvd drive are sata even for the power. I installed a sata dvd drive and it is not recognized help!!!!
reinholder
March 21st, 2008
at 11:37pm
Does this guy actually know what he’s talking about? o0
dtrix92
April 1st, 2008
at 4:21am
I don’t think he does. (the caller)
dtrix92
April 1st, 2008
at 4:22am
try plugging it into another sata port on you motherboard.
TonayD
April 2nd, 2008
at 10:12am
I’ve never heard of this before – I have Vista installed on multiple Dell machines, as well as boxes with nforce motherboards. Once he applies SP1 that might fix it.
forktreeproducts
April 10th, 2008
at 5:18am
this never happened to me….
steve
May 13th, 2008
at 6:04pm
I just bought a SATA external drive and I’m using vista. The computer won’t recognize the drive but it went through the motions of installing the drivers for it and it shows up in the taskbar to safely remove the USB hardware.
Is there a fix for this? How can I get around this?
foxxchasser1
May 24th, 2008
at 9:14pm
i had the same problem
dotcomboy11
May 25th, 2008
at 10:00am
Chris always knows what he is talking about lol
Dotcomboy11
nibungbiru
June 1st, 2008
at 2:47pm
please…my laptop have are problem.can’t setup windows xp cause before i’m install vista windows.now i want to repair my laptop.please explain to me..ok