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One of the callers to the 888-PIRILLO line has just received a new htc Touch. He did have an iPhone… and prefers the Touch. I, of course, disagree with him. Let’s compare!

I’ll give you this… on features, the htc Touch rocks. It really does. Beyond that, you’re still dealing with Windows Mobile. I fell out of love with Windows Mobile after using the iPhone. So I had to ask.. why does the caller feel that the htc Touch is so much better? He replied that he can add a lot of programs to it, such as Skype and other VoiP clients. He can SSH into his server. If all you’re about is features… you’re right. The htc Touch is better. Windows Mobile is better as far as features go.

However, the iPhone SDK is coming. They will eventually be able to do everything that a Windows Mobile device can do. The SDK will also enable Flash… can Windows Mobile do that? The callers wants his features now, not when Apple has the SDK ready. That’s fine, and I can understand that. For me, it goes beyond the features, and into the implementation.

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I am an unfortunate owner of an iMate Jasjar. And I hate windows and windows mobile. But to correct, u can have flash on WM5/6 u just download it on your device from macromedia.

HA HA HA I laugh at you talking to people saying bad things of windows mobile smartphone. All you Iphone people give up. Windows Mobile Smartphone is still the best. Maybe you should check this video out has Iphone can’t or capable doing this at all. Also Chris talking does not even know what he is talking about. He what you call a wannabe. I ragther go for a phone for personal and Busimess use not just how nice looking the Iphone is.

Check this video out –> http://youtube.com/watch?v=bsXH90dznS0

This gives you many proof to still keep Windows Mobile Smartphone in mind rather than Iphone. Trust me Windows Mobile 6 Smartphone is way better in multitasking and more advanced features than the Iphone. Only thing good about Iphone is it good looks and is more of a personal phone and is NOT a Business phone. Smartphone out there now have smaller size and very thin body in size compare to Iphone long and clunky. People say Iphone is very small. Sorry! to say it is not small and it is long and clunky. I compare the size of the Iphone when I went to Apple store and my Smartphone is way smaller in lenght and thinner than the iphone. Also great about my Smartphone it way cheaper in price :-) now you be the Judge. You want a Smartphone that has all the great softwares to add to your Smartphone that has thousands to choose from that already out in the market for 7yrs now and has many advanced features. Smartphone can be use for personal or business use.

Or do you prefer the Iphone with it nice design looks and pay $499.00 Maybe read below my list why the Iphone is not a phone that can do many things than a Smartphone has already. You be the Judge. Has I have asked many people who have the Iphone and asked them why did you get the Iphone? There answer was simple it a very nice looking phone. :-)

My point is right it’s a very nice looking Iphone is all what people think of the Iphone. Sorry! Apple I rather stick to a Smartphone that has everything what I need and can be use for personal or Business use not some Iphone of it’s good looks.

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. At $599, it is ridiculously expensive. (Add in the cost of an AT&T contract and you get close to $1500)

2. Those who want to buy one must sell their soul to evil mega-corporation AT&T.

3. Japan already has technologically superior phones, and they’re far cheaper.

4. Slower internet than the commercials show: “The data experience is going to be very slow. If you’re on a cellular network, [using the Internet] is going to be very slow.”

5. Initial reports indicate that YouTube is slow and crappy using cellular network internet/EDGE. It’s nothing like in the commercials.

6. You cannot remove its battery. Thanks for replicating one of the biggest complaints about the ipod, Apple!

7. The glass touch screen of the iPhone guarantees that thousands of customers who drop their phones will have cracked screens.

8. The touchscreen keyboard sucks, according to those who have used the phone.

9. It can’t send MMS picture messages.

10. The camera has little or no options, and the pictures it takes aren’t very good.

11. It lacks proper support for Flash websites. So much for the internet.

12. It can’t record video.

13. “Pinching” pictures to zoom might look neat in commercials, but many reviewers are saying it actually sucks.

14. It lacks 3G high-speed data transfer.

15. No songs as ringtones.

16. No GPS.

17. It doesn’t work under 64-bit Windows XP / Windows Vista!!!!!!! Thanks for not including that in your Windows System Requirements, Apple!

18. It only allows for a maximum of 1 picture to be attached to each e-mail you send.

19. It doesn’t have a file browser/organizer.

20. Its default ringtones suck.

21. You can not save documents on it: documents can only be viewed as attachments when they’re sent to your e-mail address.

22. No games!!

23. Its “quick list” dialing sucks compared to traditional speed dialing, which it lacks..

24. Long activation waits: many new iPhone users are reporting that they are being told to wait hours or even days to activate service for their phone. Thanks, AT&T!

25. Heat issues: the iPhone can get very hot when it is in use.
26. Deceptive Ads: Apple has been using models with gigantic hands in their advertisements for the iPhone in an effort to trick consumers into believing it is more compact.

I have never used either, however I can say this much:

I can’t own the iPhone due to it’s carrier. I’m not switching from Alltel to Cingular (AT&T) just to get the iPhone. While I really want one it’s just not practical. However the HTC Touch is avalible on a lot more carriers (including Alltel) and it’s a good substitute (for nearly half the price) to the iPhone for people who can’t switch. While I agree, it just doesn’t have the same kick as iPhone, and it’s windows (so you have to worry about blue screens [haha]) it is the only decent alternitive to the iPhone at this moment.

Verizon has the Voyager, which has the touch screen and folds out to have the keyboard and normal screen, but that just loses the whole theme of the touch that everybody loves.

I’m not sure Apple will implement Flash on the iPhone. The file format is not easy to support efficiently, plus, it’s a proprietary format that is competing with Quicktime on the web. It’s easy for Apple to support H.264 as it’s based on Quicktime and an open standard.

It’s early days for the iPhone so the early limitations will likely be handled one way or another eventually. Cut and Paste is just too easy not to provide. What the present perspective doesn’t provide is what new dimensions will Apple add to the user experience on the iPhone and iPod Touch in the future. They are filing many patents involving the interface. I can easily see the ability to customize an iPod Touch or iPhone as a universal remote with targeted functionality achieve through manufacturer’s plug-ins. Just one of many ways such devices can solve nagging problems.

The windows mobile devices are better I believe. IT does support flash and I can use Minimo which is the mobile version of Mozilla. To me the Windows Mobile OS is the clear winner.

Pretty sure the Touch actually includes Flash Lite built-in.

Windows Mobile is ~40MBs of operating system that has been scaling very poorly up to the world of 16GB smartphones. I’ve had endless frustration with Windows Mobile on my $1000 HTC-made PDA Phone ( (O2 XDA IIs and my wife’s O2 XDA Mini)). Unexpected hard resets that lost all of my applications, data and preferences and then forced me to go thru a stupid click and drag tutorial every single time drove me absolutely bonkers.

It makes you feel like you are back using crash-prone Windows 95 all over again. Also, who in their right mind puts a tiny little Start Menu on a 3.5″ screen? It took me several days to work out how to send SMS messages the function was buried so deep. I kept losing the stylus and had to try and poke these tiny little onscreen buttons and scroll bars with a finger and I was forever restarting as the molasses set in.

Dropped calls, poor call quality, stupid chromed plastic buttons that all kept getting less and less sensitive until they stopped working totally, battery life up a creek, wifi implementation that required an unbelievable number of steps and stupidly non-intuitive screens to set up and which either never connected or never stayed connected for long. The hundreds of users of the fleet of varied corporate Winmobile PDA phones on our campus have all had to use expensive 3G connectivity instead of WiFi as it is just too broken in Win Mobile.

In contrast, OS X on the iPhone is half a gigabyte of desktop-class UNIX operating system with a proven track record of reliability, memory protection and great pre-emptive multitasking etc that also has a fresh, drop-dead simple and attractive multi-touch GUI and an interaction model that resonates with non-geeks as well as techies.

Apple has had the advantage of starting out with a clean slate on a much faster mobile CPU and with far more memory built-in than phones had even a year ago and has been able to establish a very solid foundation for the future.

You just need patience to see what will appear on the iPhone after the SDK is released and then later on the 3G iPhone.

Plenty of other people see the potential as well – the iPhone is rapidly becoming the most popular smartphone on the planet in a remarkably short space of time. The iPhone is the number two smartphone in the USA, beating all Windows Mobile vendors combined and also managed 3rd place globally behind Nokia and RIM – quite amazing considering that the iPhone was only available from 1 carrier in only 1 country for most of that time vs for example the Blackberry which is available from over 300 carriers in over a hundred countries worldwide.

http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/iphone-now-in-2nd-place-in-the-us-smartphone-race-3rd-globally/

Then there are the usage stats that demonstrate the iPhone is far more usable as an internet device with Google’s discovery of 50 times more searches on Apple‘s iPhone than any other mobile handset. Google “thought it was a mistake and made their engineers check the logs again,” said Vic Gundotra, head of Google’s mobile operations.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/667f13de-da60-11dc-9bb9-0000779fd2ac.html

In addition to this, Net Applications has found that the iPhone registered almost 1% of all web traffic which “when you consider that the iPhone has only been selling for 5 months and for most of that time was in one – albeit large – market (the U.S.), that share is amazing. Add another .01% for the iPod touch and Apple mobile platform is one out of every thousand pageviews across the Internet.”

“The WindowsCE platform – all of the Windows mobile platform devices put together – only managed 66% of iPhones market share… They’ve been selling WindowsCE devices since 1996 – over 10 years.”

http://blogs.computerworld.com/iphone_browsing_marketshare_closes_in_on_1

I used to be a Windows Mobile power user – I bought thousands of dollars worth of software for my personal Windows Mobile PDA phone including Destinator Turn-by-Turn GPS software and a Bluetooth GPS unit, the SPB utilities package to try and make up for the many shortcomings of the Windows Mobile interface, I’ve bought dozens of SciFi eBooks and read them on Mobipocket Reader and use Avante Go to subscribe to dozens of newspapers and tech journals and purchased the full PocketBible theological library suite and also loaded up the 1GB SD card with videos and music.

However, I ended up giving up on all of that and went back to my old Sybian P900 smartphone as at least it got the basics right. Once the iPhone is released here in Australia with both the basics and such vast robust potential, I’ll be at the head of the line.

-Mart

all windows mobile 5-6 phones support flash player 7 u can download it from adobe and it only works with ie. theres also a program called skyfire that is releasing betas that supports all flash and java on anysite search and find the video yourself its amazing way better than safari

what an apple fanboy

Yeah, dude, this guy is finding any excuse to defend his favorite over-priced, aesthetically pleasing monopoly.

“iTunes is a must-have app on Windows for those folks who carry around iPods or iPhones without a Mac lying around….Windows users need Apple’s software more than Mac users need Microsoft’s.”
–Chris P.

And here he’s saying how the fact that a mac needs added software to be compatible with a windows mobile device leads to the same conclusion.

Make sense?
Not to me.

HTC RULES RIGHT NOW HOWEVER IN 2010 WHEN THE 3G IPHONE DOES COME APPLE WILL TAKE OVA but till the HTC IS THE GReaTR COMPANY AT THE MOMENT!(WITH THE GPHONE THATS A WHOLE NOTHER STORY)

I can record video… and send picture messages… and browse high speed internet outside of Wi-Fi… yeah… HTC Touch and Windows mobile rule iPhone any day.
The guy keeps talking about how all we have is features, what does he have that we don’t?

he htc touch is not that bad because the screen is flush with the rest of the devicefor touchscreen use. you can always use opera mobile or opera mini. its not as good as safari, but it does the job.

i have an htc touch and my brother has an iphone and i love it, but the htc touch suits my needs better. i was going to get an iphone too, but when i saw my brothers and an htc touch in the sprint store, i changed my mind. make your own decision based on your needs and experience.

My dude…yo want interface….get fucken spb mobile shell….iphone sucks cock….no 3g…wtfz!! yo evdo >3g…ur an idiot….oh yeah…wrote this from my Sprint Mogul…can your Iphone do that….I uploaded my shoe Video on my phone…can ur Iphone do dat beoch

maybe that guy is whining about his htc touch beeing slow since he has the version with wifi that has nearly half as much memory and cpu as the one without wifi… :o!

sorry, meant “Half as less” meaning that the wifi one has a worse cpu than non-wifi version. my bad :E

This is fucking TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I couldn’t agree more. I have sprint right now, my friends have HTC, they’re talking smack about the iPhone but they’re trying to emulate it with their pile of “JUNK,”(HTC). I told them that i’ll wait until sprint get the iphone. HTC has no solid core, it just tries to be something else, and it still moves slow and laggy, that is the true.

The problem with windows mobile devices is that for some reason they have very clunky user interfaces. Apple is famous for simple, user-friendly interfaces that people grow to love. I don’t know why this is the case; is it so hard for windows mobile devices to have nice user interfaces? Or look nice? I mean, why do they have to be clunky, ugly bricks?

So Chris… you were dead serious? Not as dead serious about hating the iPhone now.

wowowow…chris become anti-apple guy xD :D…

listen the ONLY reason YOU dont likethe IPHONE is because YOU CANT AFFORD IT BECAUSE ITS TOO GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!!!
YOU HEAR
TOO
GOOD
FOR
YOU!!!!!!!!!!

thats right. symbian owns so many apps out there

windows mobile sucks balls. I have one, Piece of shit.

windows mobile DOES support flash

u preach it brotha… nuthin but truth; im gettin the iphone 2 when it comes out in June. and yes it is comin out in june, got the news from a guy who tests out apple products.

Install Point UI and you get ease of use, style, AND the ability to install whatever the heck you want on the damn thing.

Windows Mobile also makes more sense if you use Windows (either by choice or circumstance) on your main computer, because it offers instant synchronization with whatever Windows products you’re stuck using.

The iPhone isn’t worth it to me until it’s basically a mini OSX.

yeah man…
iphone is a rip-off

HTC Touch Diamond.Enough said.iphone faggets.You shall all be owned.

Personally I think arguing about which phone is better is pointless. It is obvious that people look for different things in phones and therefore will prefer one phone over the other. I would like to point out a few things though…

1.) I’ve NEVER met an unsatisfied iphone customer.
2.) I’ve studied productivity for over 10 years and BOTH phones are adequate for the purposes of getting things done. (yes, the iphone is included in the word BOTH)
3.) The iphone does NOT provide certain things that are crucial to certain people (such as corporate email)
4.) Being a mac product, the iphone isn’t compatible with certain computing needs…like connecting to 64 bit and whatnot (although not connecting to vista is a weak argument…nothing seems to work with vista).

I personally give the edge to the iphone (mostly because I prefer not to struggle to get things done). However, I think it is obvious that there is no clear winner, because everyone is judging on different criteria.

F*** man im confused
just why do better things have to come out so soon after something that was good becomes ‘that was so yesterday’

its mac vs. pc all over again

IT never stoped :)

agreed, the htc is extremely sluggish at times.

Windows Mobile is terrible. Don’t even bother trying it. Stick with iPhone or Blackberry. http://www.windowsmobilesucks.com

Not a "Fan" of Either One

March 10th, 2009
at 3:09pm

I have HTC touch running Windows Mobile and looked at the iPhones today at the apple store. Wow: very stylish, very elegant… Great for cartoons and games and music (the HTC stores music as well, thought). But I was very surprised that you cannot manage any tasks in the iPhone, nor can you add notes to a calendar item. Not to mention having no bluetooth. So as far as productivity is concerned I’m happy with my HTC, but I can see how the WOW factor of iPhone’s user interface has people pretty excited. Chris’s 18-minutes of raving here also seems high on WOW and low on substance. It would be nice if Chris would do a comparison of the two products blow-by-blow. He does concede that Windows mobile has more “features” and it would be nice to show us what those are, and how they are relevant to getting work done rather than how cool a Batman video looks on screen.

Windows Mobile crappy interface allows consumers to turn it into something good. There is already freelance software development for Windows Mobile anyways. SDK is the same as software development for windows mobile. This SDK thing is stupid. Either software development is allowed or not allowed.

Next even if iPhone has software development, it can only go so far because iPhone OS is designed for people who are looking for simplicity and when you have to develop software for simple OS than your software isn’t going to go very far.

“However, the iPhone SDK is coming. They will eventually be able to do everything that a Windows Mobile device can do. The SDK will also enable Flash… can Windows Mobile do that?”

iPhone SDK came out a loooong time ago and there’s still no support for flash on iPhone.

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