uTorrent vs. Azureus for Torrents

Perhaps you should look at the latest version of Getright as it not only is a download manager, a podcatcher (in Pro beta 3) but in the next beta (available via the forums in alpha now) will have bit torrent support!
Way cool to have all these things in one and its still getting better!
Molly
http://mollyzine.blogspot.com

Chris,
Thanks for the info. It's tough clearing through all the junk on the net to find out what good torrent clients are out there.

You seem to have same preferences like me. I also use utorrent and even metapad.
I guess, like me, you are a minimalist too.

I just want uTorrent to support all the trackerless goodness that Azureus had. Makes it much more resilient against offline trackers, and often also makes it download much faster. Other than that, it's perfect indeed.

hey Chris, thanks for the info. i just ditched Azureus for good. uTorrent is great!

On the other hand:
Azureus:
*not really that slow, esp if you've tweaked your system and made sure you got rid of non-essential background apps and defrag regularly.
* Pretty Intuitive at default level, allowing you to customize it to your system. My mother uses it, I uses it =D
* More fully featured than any other torrent software out there.
* Also has a fully-automated upgrade process
* Is also updated frequently
* Available as a .jar file, for people that already have java installed and know how to use it.
* The best multi-OS BitTorrent client around (IMHO)
* Has always been my default BitTorrent client
However:
*It is overkill for light to moderate users
*it's not the fastest out there, but not really that slow if you have a mid range machine or above
Just my $0.02 and the flipside of the coin ;) then again, diff'rent strokes n'all

And Azureus is open source, while uTorrent could add spyware/adware through auto-updates at any time.

Azureus could also install spyware as part of its auto-update. Being open source just means that people could fork it and prepare spyware free releases if that were to happen.

I like uTorrent.. have played with it a bit, but I still go back to BitComet 0.60… its also fast but supports TRACKERLESS downloads which uTorrent doesn't as yet…. when that comes on board to uTorrent I'll probably be keen as mustard.
MozTrilla

utorrent got me 821 bytes down and like 50kbps up.
I am now getting 292kbps down and 9kbps up with azureus. no other client is close, utorrent is the worst client i have ever used.

oh yeah i should mention, if azureus is slow to you, then your computer is shit

Why do i have to do extra maintanence just so azureus would run well ? Im sorry, Coders should get a grip about what kind of bloat they put into their program.
50kB/s up against 9kB/s up in azureus ? How about that option called UPLOAD LIMIT. Magic ?

if you're going to review something, at least be fair in your review. you didn't even list any of Azureus' positive points, surly there must be some if it was your default client. In my opionion it's neither slow nor clunky. I've tried utorrent and it doesn't seem any better than Azureus for speed.

Azureus isn't slow because my system is slow. Azureus is slow compared to other comparable apps on my Dual Core Athlon X2 2.4Ghz machine with 2GB of memory and 10,000RPM RAID 0 hard drives.
If it can't fly on that system, something is wrong.
What's wrong? It's Java. Java is slow, and there's no n-gen equivalent that I know of for Java apps.
Azureus/Java also messes up the Windows desktop. It's because of the way it draws to the screen, but whenver I launch Azurues my entire screen flickers. And I can't watch videos while Azureus is running because of some conflict with my video driver and Overlay scaling. Anytime I play a video if Azureus is running, my entire computer screetches to a halt. I have to press Alt+F4 and then wait 10-20 seconds for the media player to close before I can do anything. Kill off Azureus and everything is back to normal.
On the other hand, I like a lot of things about Azureus. I like how I can customize its behavior in very specific ways. I also love the trackerless torrent support.
However I'm tempted to give uTorrent a try because of the problems that Azureus has been giving me lately.

oh yes chris i thought just the same thing when i first saw utorrent a last week or so, i was using bittornado becaue i thought it was light! amazing.

It felt like you implied that Azureas is slow since it's java-based. You really can not blame Java for Azureus to be slow. I hope you did not mean it that way.

considering the fact that azureus is monstrously obese in terms of memory usage, it is the goliath of the BT application genre, making uTorrent a good candidate for comparison. the capability for uTorrent to support the most common features of other clients makes it far more advantageous in the long run if it keeps the right balance between features and performance.
in my experience , azureus on WinXP requires a restart ever 50 hours or so, otherwise it just starts to lock up and become non-responsive and hitting 100% CPU usage. the latest current version 22.3.0.4, uses 160mb at startup and bloats to 230mb while transfers are active, using on average 20-30% CPU on a 1.8ghz AthlonXP (2500xp). the beta/CVS versions do not make the app any faster, less bloated or perform better, so the long term advantage is almost nil, if the competition can emulate or adapt to the same featuresets that azureus & familiar BT clients offer.
i now have 1gb ram, just so i can use azureus and browse the internet, where i used to be fine using 512mb comfortably on the same PC.
the arguments FOR azureus are only there because there are useful modules/plugins e.g. udp tracker support, trackerless/DHT support, RSS feeds, scheduling, latency/speed, runs on mac/linux/win, etx. portability and performance are healthy for a java app, the modules are reliable and the azureus featureset is considered to be a default for other clients.
uTorrent is only a few months old, it has been coded explicitly for minimal needs and does not have the 2+ years of development time that azureus has had, or the plugin support.
regarding speed, have you set the TCP port, and given it a few minutes to communicate with peers so others in the swarm can send you data ?
azureus can also seem faster because it saves peer data in the torrent file to speed up resuming a torrent. the process uses a lot more memory, and is generally unnecesary in a minimalist approach, you only need to have 20-50 contacts at once, not 500+to ensure fast distribution in the swarm.

i got a trojan from utorrent

uTorrent rocks! I have been an avid Azureus user for about a year now. I alwya thought that it was the best thing since sliced bread. Lateky it seems the developers at Azureus are trying to do too much with the client. 61 beta versions so far and no stable release????I got tired of having to keep reverting back to older versions just to have a stable and fast client. With uTorrent, I noticed increase speeds immediately. While I still have Azureus installed for it's DHT feature, uTorrent is definitely my choice for everyday downloading.

uTorrent rocks! I have been an avid Azureus user for about a year now. I always thought that it was the best thing since sliced bread. Lately it seems the developers at Azureus are trying to do too much with the client. 61 beta versions so far and no stable release????I got tired of having to keep reverting back to older versions just to have a stable and fast client. With uTorrent, I noticed increase speeds immediately. While I still have Azureus installed for it's DHT feature, uTorrent is definitely my choice for everyday downloading.

uTorrent is incredible, indeed. However, for me it doesn't do UPnP to take care of the Port Forwarding (it should, but it doesn't) and it doesn't run on my Linux systems.
Sander Den Hoorn

the developers of utorrent are planning on implementing DHT/trackerless support and (i believe) rss tracking in future versions. no more java for meeee.

First of all I HATE JAVA BASED CLIENT
i m a MINIMALIST
ALL U IDIOT saying that azureus is slow because our system is… you are completly newb and your comment should be erased.
When we are saying that azureus is slow we dont mean that it runs slowly on our cpu. WE MEANT it is slow COMPARE to other non-ava based client
i hate client loaded will bullshit, bittorrent is an app to download stuff, not a chat clent or whatever those devloppers keep filling they client
STICK TO THE MAIN POINT, make the job, that's what utorrent does and the interface is pretty well done

Irrelevant for me anyway. I torrent under Linux. Now, if he goes multi-platform, I'll look at it again.

the new 1.2 supports trackerless.
i also want to comment that Azureus lagged up my entire network even when i was downloading at 5kb a second. uTorrent is much kinder to everyone else on my network as now they can play online games while im downloading at a modest speed.
also support for scheduling immediately is very nice. and done very well.

µTorrent has DHT support as of v1.2 (the one thing keeping me from downloading it in the past). Now you simply must try it =)
- paradox

DHT Support in uTorrent now!!! Received the 1.2 version release the morning after I first tried this program (via a very simple automated update). This client pwns.

uTorrent is also better than BitTornado, which was my previous BT client, but I'd also like to add that I favor BitTornado over Azureus, simply because BTornado supports HTTP seeding, which is a revolutionary device for making inital torrent speed, or almost dead or torrents with missing parts a lot quicker. I'd also like to see this in uTorrent, hopefully it will be a feature in the future…
and btw, by odd coincidence, your last name is almost like mine, My last name is Cirillo..lol

I used to use Turbo Torrent and had to deal with incredibly horrible system performance and alright speeds now with uTorrent I can be running my torrents and using firefox at the sametime but honestly i have not seen an improvment in speeds but for the time being i love this lil torrent

Someone mentioned utorrent possibly harboring spyware. I don't believe this is true. I closely watch my firewall logs, and I don't see it don't anything unexpected. Azureus, on the other hand IS spyware… or at least ver.2.3 phones home at startup for no good reason. Every time you start it, it contacts 213.186.46.164 (OVH SAS, France). I don't know what it's looking for, but I don't like it, and I have blocked it's attempt.
I've been using Azureus for about a year, and I like it a lot, but utorrent has most of the features I want and is much lighter on system resources. I find both clients download at about the same rate – no advantage to either one.

“the latest current version 22.3.0.4, uses 160mb at startup and bloats to 230mb while transfers are active, using on average 20-30% CPU on a 1.8ghz AthlonXP (2500xp).”
You've got a bug or something there. On my XP2700+ Azureus uses 30-40mb of memory and (when downloading and minimised) 5-10% CPU.
And you can limit the number of connections Az makes per torrent in the options, as well as it's saving peer data to file behavior.
“61 beta versions so far and no stable release????I got tired of having to keep reverting back to older versions just to have a stable and fast client.”
Well yes, they are BETA versions. That means they're probably full of bugs/unstable. I don't think I've ever had a release version crash on me.

any hope closing the commenting part?
love it:
I love good comments that are based on facts and enlighten people.
hate it:
People comment even if they know jack shit about things “aZureyS rawKx, fock j00 noobs, it SPEEDS MY BANDWITDH WITH ETERNITY” .
People tend to flame needlessly “uTorrent SUCKS ASS AND gave my mom syphilis and me a trojan. FUCK OFF BIATCH”.
etc.
Anyone posting these should go look in the mirror and ask yourself questions about the subject. start with “how does bittorrent work?” “where did that trojan get past my antivirus and where it came from?” “how do you compile java?” “what is a memory leak?”
etc.
:)

Lol, I just love how random people post totally fake/unfounded information about utorrent on the comments (”I got a trojan from utorrent!” “utorrent is slow!”). Simply precious.

i run azureus 24/7 on a p3 1GHz with 512M ram. runs fine. adjusting the setting to match your broadband link and your system specs isn't all that hard. i can usually download 2-3 well seeded torrents while uploading 3-5 without system degredation. any problems i experience are usually because i'm pushing my router a little too hard.
i'm intrigued with utorrent. i have to do some research, but one of the differences that stands out for me is the caching of torrent data. supposedly, asureus has this optional feature to reduce wear and tear on the hard drive. i have no idea if this actually works as such, or if utorrent does or does not have the same feature.. but having the option for something like that, especially if it actually does help keep your HD mtbf long, seems more important than the difference between whatever memory utorrent uses and the 150M of memory azureus is using right now (2 seeds, 2 leech, total of about 200 connections, 23GB total in play).
one thing against using java: the JRE is a moving target. different versions act differently and sun just had to fix exploitable errors in all current releases (except for the latest). a well developed c++ or c app can be reasonably easily ported from windows to linux and unix and back, java just has some nice shortcuts.
and to the javadiot above… java IS slow when compared to c or c++ on any platform. it's negligable in small apps, but can become insurmountably slow when large datasets are involved. a smart java programmer gets around the issues as best s/he can, and azureus itself isn't slow because java is (azureus isn't slow, period, if you use it properly). the break even point is where the development time saved by using java isn't relevant (anymore) to the comfort level of the endusers.

I shifted to UTorrent a dew days ago. Definitely better, lighter than Azureus. I have 384Megs of RAM, but to use Firefox and Limewire alongside… and you suddenly realize the downsides of Java.
Not to mention that I'm getting better speeds using UT. Tried and tested thoroughly.
And hey, I just pointed UT to download certain old torrents in the same place as Azureus was downloading earlier. It automatically checked the old downloaded parts, and recognized and resumed from where mighty Azureus had left off. FANTASTIC!
Plus, I was never able to schedule an Azureus startup. Never. But UT is the best thing to happen to torrents since torrents themselves.

does new versions of uTorrent has support for filters? cuz i find the SAFEPEER (plugin) in Azureus very useful. It cuts off lot of clients who are there to give bad data and also blocks those authorities and stuff~ it juz makes me feel safer. haha~

Personally I find that uTorrent uses fewer system resources but I also find that Azureus downloads stuff a lot faster so I use uTorrent for smaller downloads but Azureus for bigger ones…

i have used azureus and all i can say is that it occupies a large amount of memory. it almost occupies 90% of my memory. now i am using 2 torrent clients. utorrent and bitcomet. they are both running and it only occupies 40% of my memory. bitcomet uses larger memory compared to utorrent but it has a better download and upload speed. im using the 2 for faster downloads and uploads.

uTorrent
+ supports trackerless torrents
+ is extremely small
+ is resource-saving
+ IS fast (just had 120kb/s down on a torrent for 3h!
only thing that is a minus are the missing plugins. For all those who want them: plugins will never be integreted into uTorrent (says the FAQ). I for ione don't care 'cause all those “safepeer” plugins are crap and do NOT make P2P any safer :)
Azureus is nice and fast but simply didn't wk with my router :/
And well its too big anyway ;)
result:
uTorrent 10/10 points
Azureus: 8/10 points

uTorrent only runs on Windows you say? Then it won't work for me. I don't support companies that have broken antitrust laws or engage in unethical business conduct. And neither should you. What the heck is wrong with this country. Next thing I'll hear is that we re-elected Mister Bush for a second term after lying through his teeth about WMD in Iraq. Wait, we did! Never mind, I guess ethical conduct doesn't matter in this country anymore. for c in input do – ^H – done

Your review is completely biased – there is absolutely no way I'm going to take your word when you totally ignore what's good about Azureus. You cannot beat Azureus for its features. Okay, uTorrent doesn't look bad, but don't go making up crap about Azureus which isn't true.

My PC is not very good to say the least (1 Ghz processer), yet I'm running Azureus without any problems whatsoever. I don't find using Java particularly slows down my PC compared to other programs (e.g photoshop) at all, so I find it hilarious that people can boast about their expensive specs. “my Dual Core Athlon X2 2.4Ghz machine with 2GB of memory and 10,000RPM RAID 0 hard drives. ” and complain that AZ is running slow on them. I can easily watch a movie with azureus running at the same time and it's just as pleasant an experience than with nothing else running at all.
I recently downloaded uTorrent because I felt like a change and I don't really find it better or worse than azureus, if anything a little slower, so I don't really see the need to change my BT client.

Both these clients are shit ! The only good client is BitTorrent 3.4.2, before this multi file stuff was added: you chosse a torrent, it downloads it, that's all. If you wnat to download 10 torrents you use 10 clients. Everything else is just useless!

How come nobody commented on the fact that Azureus is being banned from a lot of trackers which is one reason you can't get as good download rates with it as uTorrent. Not to mention the fact that it has to use more memory than a client wrote in C++ due to way Java works. Don't get me wrong Azureus is a good client but I have no idea why they insist on coding it in Java. I would probably use it if they would convert it to C++ and remove the features that are getting it banned.

One comment: Utorrent developers intentionally build in a bug to stop the memory usage at some kind of amount, in my case at 3MB.
downloading 4GB while using only 3MB? that is totally bullshit.

I got a Trojan from Azureus.

Ok, so when I first started using BT, i looked around for a great client. I keep looking and trying till i found Utorrent. I liked how speedy it was. Then i started having very slow downloads. I was thinking about swtiching clients. I then read something about putting an upload limit. I did that and now i get 100+ k/bs. So if anyone is having download speed issues with Utorrent, I would reccomend putting an upload limit on.

I used Azureus for several months, but recently have switched to uTorrent! It is a fantastic app to run if you want to leave your torrents going whilst you play games. I get no lag whatsoever in Doom 3 with uTorrent running, but i did when i used to use Azureus.
When i made the switch i was however disappointed by the lack of some key features in uTorrent, like the ability to set a download/upload limit on individual torrents.
It would be great if bittorrent clients had a feature to allow your antivirus software to scan all incoming files, like in Outlook or MSN messenger. Are there any bittorrent clients out there that allow you to do this? Is there, by any chance, a way of somehow configuring this with uTorrent??
I know antivirus software can only do so much and a bit of common sense is the best thing to stop yourself from downloading harmful viruses/trojans, but it would be nice to have some extra peace of mind when downloading from torrents which include hundreds of files like artist discographies where it isn't possible/ takes alot of time to look at every file and check it.
Thanks in Advance
ben

Personally, I am very pleased with Azureus over uTorrent, but why all the acrimony over what client is the best? uTorrent and Azureus are aimed at two very different types of BitTorrent users so it's more like comparing apples to oranges.
For me, I have no bandwidth issues while using Azureus. I am able to utilize the maximum amount of the bandwidth my ISP allows or as little bandwidth needed in order to do other data transfers over the internet, plus Azureus has plugins that help me from downloading corrupted files from Anti-P2P groups. Azureus, along with the plugin named Safe Peer, blocks known Anti-P2P IP's, government IP's, and even college IP's if I wanted it to do so. It also can pernanently ban those IP's intuitively and automatically. But then again, my needs are much greater than simply uploading just a couple of files. I also use Azureus's new encryption feature to transfer large chunks of data for professional purposes. Also, it allows me to utilize and customize proxy features for added protection.
But as I said before, AZ is much different than uT and is suited for different users. So, if you want to use a client just to download a song or adult movie clip or something occassionaly without any other needs, then go with uTorrent. It's stripped down version is EXCELLENT for that purpose. If you are like me that needs a client that can expand or minimize along with your ever changing needs, the Azureus is your best bet.

I've been using Bitcomet for the longest time and you know what? i ditch Bitcomet and used utorrent instead. Very fast, reliable and easy interface. Thanks mate.

uTorrent uses 4600K on my system.
Azureus uses 120000K on my system.
This is to do the same job. I'm got a gig so it doesn't kill me to use Azureus but it shows something should be done to improve it's efficiency. In the old days when computers had less than 1 meg it was all about good coding.

Regards those who get viri and troji from P2P my advice is use online virus scanners on any uncertains.
kaspersky is free and removes trojans and viruses. Very good for checks of compressed files like rars and zips.
panda is free and removes viruses and reports on trojans etc. Better than 90% of checkers but not as good with compressed files as kaspersky.
a-squared is a malware checker/remover free and powerful.
ewido is also good for malware.
other onlines are generally poor or bad at checking compressed. But then why do you need to go for compressed usually in the world of broadband.

This article has helped me decide between uTorrent and Azureus. I also found this article explaining how to increase download speeds of uTorrent-
http://www.johntp.com/2006/04/19/how-to-increase-download-speeds-of-utorrent/

Many people here have commented about speed increase. As far as trackers are conserned, we see that BitComet is the only one that can offer a relative speed increase over others. How? by favoring connections to the same type of clienst(BitComet). Otherwise, any client can be configured to have the same speed down/up.
As for the memeory usage, utorrent is definetely smaller and cheaper. My experience comes from many different systems, but the most important one is my main comp: 3.2 G Intell CPU 2GB memory and Raid 0 4 Maxtor HardDrives(paired). Even in this monster Azereus was eating enough to sence it running… On the other side, utorrent is also noticeable but only on read/write actions to the same hardrive as the downloads folder, for a fast download.
Any ways, it is a question of usage and preference. Both clients have made trade offs and some people like ro dislike them.

Ok here it is. Azureus pulls the best Down speed when trackers go down. Azureus isnt slow? It uses 0 to 2 percent processing usuage on my 4200×2x64.. and only 74,600 to 74,968k memory usuage
I dont know where you guys get your statistics.. but get new benchmarking software? oh wait your SYSTEMS SUCK! haha

AZ use only the first goodworking tracker in tracker list. Add more tracker is useless.

I always used Nanotorrent(the funny looking u is the quantitative symbol for nano, like nanograms), but I downloaded Azureus for comparison. Azureus doesn’t come close.

I have utorrent it is fast and easy to use, but if something goes wrong, you can NOT kill the process in task manager. Any suggestions?

just a note mitch drew the u symbol isnt nano (the symbol for nano is lowercase n) .
the symbol is micro.

Ever since installing and using utorrent, I have been bombarded with spam. Anyone else have this problem, or am I just suddenly unlucky?

The `U’ is pronounced as `meow’ and in technical terms written as `mju’ (the `j’ is silent).. and as far as Utorrent is concerned.. it rocks.. you can run the same on a minimum configuration machine…

uTorrent is small , fast and swift (^^) i got pretty good speed and it has many functions . But i dont like it because it doesnt found all the peers . How the hell its possible to download a file from the network tracker and the file has more than 30 peers but uTorrent catches just 5 seeders , and i’ve wait hour or two for change but :S ??? When I installed Azureus it got 23 seeders (all the seeders) I prefer azureus it might be slow but i like it more now . Looks like it has better peer to peer system :D

uTorrent isn’t really only a single binary, with no other files. In the application data directory (C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\) is the subdirectory where uTorrent stores all it’s other files, like it’s settings.ini file.

Azureus gave me syphilis.

Ever since i started using Azureus i’ve been gettig sores and rashes and leisons in the area of my .. erm .. you know.

Has anyone else had this problem, or am i just unucky?

Its not azureus but the azzes youve been poking thats the problem. Spray your unit 6 times a day with bleach and be happy

Try 2.5 out over utorrent. Has in/out bound encryption to avoid ISP throttling and torrent port detection (to avoid those annoying admonishment emails regarding (c)). Just need torrent with more seeds than peers… In addition uses IP blocker list used by peerguardian2. ssshhwweeeeeet!

I second that edgar! My ISP is very strict about file sharing, and if I disable encryption my 15Mbps connection will get dropped down to about 1 or 2Mbps. And they stop the upload on what ever port.

I tried uTorrent and got that same story. I tried to enable the encryption in uTorrent, but it did little good. And to top it all off, the fact that uTorrent doesn’t support dht is something that I see as a great weakness. Most of my torrent have at one time or another not been able to connect to the tracker, but good ‘ol Azureus made quick work of that problem! The max speed I ever saw in uTorrent was a pittifull 100KB/s, compared to an average of 2~3MB/s with Azureus (Both clients were downloading the same file at seperate times on the same port. Both clients were tweaked for performance).

The only thing I really envy about uTorrent is GUI. It is just nice compared to Azureus! And I absolutely die for their web GUI for controlling uTorrent from another computer on the net. Of course azureus has one, but it is slow, and ugly, and featureless. Azureus is blazing fast, and thats what I like. I hope soon uTorrent will implement DHT as I really want to love uTorrent, but with Azureus’s speed, uTorrent has a lot of work to do, and much ground to cover!

KC, I don’t know what version of utorrent have you tried as I use one for almost a year and it does support DHT and I love utorrent the most

µTorrent (MicroTorrent) – That is the correct name for this program, it is called micro torrent because of its extremely small file size. Don’t go posting things like you’re some kind of professor when you have no idea what you’re talking about. Nanotorrent! Geeze! BTW, you produce the µ symbol by holding down ALT, and pressing this number combination 0181.

I have tried bitcomet, bittorrent. utorrent, and azureus. They all pretty much give me the same exact speeds with verizon fios. I have a new athlon 5000+ with 2 gigs of ram and a raptor drive. For downloading and uploading they are pretty much the same damn thing. I switch back and forth between Bitcomet 0.69 and the latest version of utorrent. There really are no major diffrences between those in speed. The size of utorrent is really convienient and it does use the least resources. For those of you that are bitching that you have to restart to use azureus, there is a program called system mechanic pro 6. It has a memory defragger that pretty much makes your pc feel like a fresh restart. There really isnt that much diffrence between all of them

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how to increase download speed of uTorrent with a software that increases the speed upto 1GB/s or atleast 10MB/s can u suggest anything?

my internet speed is 64kbps i cant increase

HAHA, regarding the 2 comments above.. well SHIT lol you would never ever get anything 10mb/s ever. average download speed for me is only like 50kb/s or less on a 7.5mbit connection. using bitcomet (maybe coz its only 128kb/s up)

Well it looks like utorrent is working in conjunction with the big studios now. Good luck!

The only thing i like about Azureus no is the blue frog…lol Sriously i did like it but only used it because i had no time to look for anything else. I am very impressed with U torrent. I was proud of Azureus at once. That thing is a huge system hog. One thing is for sure. In my time of usage (years) people have always complained about Azureus being a system hog. Java sucks ass…

Fuck all you asscock licking mothers and fuck me

yes UTorrent is the all time best i get speed 800 – 900 Kb and up the rest suck azureus is slow as hell

The safe peer thing is not needed if you have Peer Guardian 2, actually I think Peer Guardian 2 is much better and it should work with both uTorrent and Azureus. Did anyone mention that uTorrent comes with a IPfilter built in as well, unlike Azureus’s Safepeer plugin.

Azureus has uTorrent beat with the I2P plugin which offers privacy and security, but at a cost to speed. I managed to hook up uTorrent with I2P as well though.

uTorrent is smaller, faster and harder to mod while Azureus is more user friendly and offers more options. I recommend looking out for newer clients, namely I2PRufus and I2PSnark.

Well i havent seen much difference interms of DL speed between Azureus and Utorrent (if u can fix basic things like port forwarding and stuff…)but the only thing in favour of Utorrent is its usage of CPU but i personally prefer Azureus as its give me more info and control while DLing torrents

omg i proper love how people get dead defensive over computer programs hahahahaha….

“in my experience , azureus on WinXP requires a restart ever 50 hours or so, otherwise it just starts to lock up and become non-responsive and hitting 100% CPU usage. ”

wth? i keep azureus open 24/7 for weeks, on average rebooting once per month LoL!

i’ve a internet spd of 64kbps initially i wasn’t into downloading but since i’ve discovered utorrent i wanna download max stuff in min time.

i kno with such slow net conn i can’t expect a good download spd but my current avg download rate is 5kbps,and i kno nothing about the settings of utorrent.so can som1 tell me 2 change any setting or download any software that can take the spd atleast to 15-20kbps.

plzz help

This is lame. Java stinks when it is badly put together, and Azureus is a perfect and prime example of the bull you can achieve in the guise of “functionality”: it’s a system hog, its interface always feel somewhat awkward (thanks java), it does sometimes become unresponsive. Spyware? I laugh considering people use auto-updates without thinking… what, did you check the source of the updates before installing? It’s not with people like that that you’re going to promote open source. Open Source is not for some whiners who like Azureus to be ramping on: it’s a concept that’s beyond those leechers and that you’re defended to use as an excuse for making dated software anything utter garbage. Uttorrent is an incomplete solution but at least it’s responsive, has a low file and system footprint and is simple. It can be completed and when and if it becomes damaged by corporate interest, people can switch to something else, maybe Azureus, but in the meantime let’s have a simple experience and keep your “jar jar” to yourself!

I remember I was still on dial-up… and wanted to install a bittorrent client, and I looked at Azureus, and having to install the JRE, man, it was like 30mb overall or something… I told myself WOW what a real big TURD that is. And then I downloaded the whole bowl and proceeded to install the JRE on my ac connected 200mhz laptop with 64 mb of edo dram – after a long and constipating hour I installed Azureus… and launched it! After a good 5 minutes, I could see java painfully assembling the gui,.Wow… so many f…n options I spent the night profiling them like some anal-retentive “modders” and “powerusers” do, you know… like someone would shave his face with tweezers. Then I decided I’d download my first torrent… so I downloaded Utorrent!!!! Then I unzipped it and double-clicked it and it was there within 35 seconds. The next day I spent the afternoon using a douchebag to remove JRE and Azureus from my hard drive.

Thank you.

My conclusion is that Azureus is a very good Bittorrent client for downloading Utorrent then uninstalling. The stars stood for t / urd.

Yeah, i also went from Azureus to Utorrent

But i still remain loyal to Bitcomet.
it manages all downloads, not just torrents. has a floating window, that tells you percentages of each download, and draws graphs speeds, so you can see averages. also very similar to the layout of U-torrent,
RSS feed etc. and no where near as clunky as Azureus.

Overall i Rate U-Torrent for size and doesnt affect anything else running on my PC.

U-Torrent – ***** 5/5
Bitcomet – ****’ 4.5/5
Azureus – **** 4/5
most other clients i rate at about 3-4, so azureus isnt all that special.

I use azureus and its fucking good. I use a Mac (WICH IS BETTER THAN WINDOWS) And utorrent neglects to make a version for the best OS, now thats a fucking dumbass developer right there. You say Azureus is bad but when it is smart enough to make a version for mac osx it is not. I havent used utorrent but im going to try it on a windows, but the azureus is good and fast the way I see it its good to me, maybe utorrent is better I dont know.

chris pirillo’s review sucks balls, go fucking learn how to right a good review we can benifit from not your fucking description of how azureus is bad moter fucker dfie fcker fuck you fuck!!!!!! I just stabbed my self

im so fucking mad

I got a trojan from utorrent too… prolly had something to do with downloading that “update”… damn…

Holy screaming fan boys Batman! those last three reviews were ridiculous! I always love when anonymous people on the inter webs decide to take a dump on something and then present no evidence on which to base their argument. Instead they just curse and yell because they are too ignorant to actually do any fact checking. uTorrent is the best torrent client out there and does not contain any spyware/trojans/malware etc. But then they would have realized that if they had taken the two seconds it takes to install and run it. Ignorance truly is bliss.

ps… reviews should have been in air quotes, (”reviews”), and to all Mac users, sucks to be you!

People need to stop bashing these clients
they are both very good and have upsides and downsides its all a matter of preference
if you want a big client with a ton of options go with Azureus
if u want something that is compact but gets the job done go with uTorrent. i have not had problems with either of these and have good speeds with both of them but i prefer uTorrent due to the fact that it is compact and uses almost no resources.

and people who are getting Trojans need to shut the hell up and be more careful about what they download

your pretty damn biased in your comparison

I didn’t get a trojan, but i did put one on. Condom that is. Then i took it to your mom at 800kbs upload speed and stayed seeding her for a while. Then she downloaded a creampie through her legs at 40kbs, cause i had a lot of grains and whole oats that week.

why does utorrent take forever to complete once the download reaches 99% etc. it would go from something like 250KB/s to 0.2KB/s for half an hour or more. If it was made that way it fsucks. Azuerus ftw – always constant fast speeds….just less users

currently still waiting for my file to complete on uTorrent. been almost 2hours. stuck at 99.2%. download=0.1 KB/S, upload=121 KB/s, seeds = 0(21), peers = 30(8518)

damit!!!!

Guys,

i just moved to Abu Dhabi and have to use a VPN otherwise P2P are blocked.

With this VPN in place it seems that peers cannot connect to my PC and also the download speed is very-very low.

Do you know the best settings for utorrent under these conditions?

Many thanks!

i don’t like the new azureus with vuze. i will switch to utorrent

for me, utorrent it the best, it is also more stable, many java based programs tent to be more pron to crashes
I have a pretty good gaming pc that i built, it can run any torrent client with ease but utorrent is still best as it takes very little memory compared to all other clients (it is also much faster with all others that i have used (when you set it up properly, i bet the users who have slow speeds are users who used the default setup)

in the tiny package of utorrent, you get a fully featured torrent client, a web server that you can manually enable (i have hosted small websites using utorrent before, including my anime website http://mysite.verizon.net/vze2241e/ (when verizon decided to have server problems)

utorrent also allows you to remotely control it from any pc, pda, cellphone or any device that has access to the web

(for many web enabled hand held devices, the best browser is opera portable supports everything the browsers on desktop PCs support)

utorrent is the most efficient torrent client (pc it also comes with a free built in copy of Tetris

to get it,
1. Select About in Help menu.
2. Press ‘T’ on the Keyboard.

I switched from Az* to uT* about 6 months ago. At first I was a bit disappointed by the lack of features and overall “tweakability”. However… the sheer simplicity of uT* is ultimately its claim to fame. Not requiring Java to be running is also a super-duper upside. My computer is well maintained and has more than adeqate processing power – yet Az* always seemed touchy. Very few crashes (if any) however the feel of the Java is and always has been sortof – ugh -. Overall Az* is a nice piece of work with lots of features. But its bulky feel, and Java driven operation make it second rate when compared to uT*. In order for Az* to truly compete with uT*… the developer is going to need to axe the Java platform and go for somthing faster and more efficient. Java is great for little applets on a webpage – but to build a full functioning independent piece of software on it, is… well… just kind of silly (to me).

Oh!.. Cool little note about the fact that uTorrent is not “U” at all; but is the greek symbol for the roman letter “M” and is actually pronounced “mew”. The symbol “μ” stands for many things scientific, mathimatical, and alphabetical – however it is most commonly used as a symbol for PPM or Parts Per Million which in turn is as a measure of the intensity or strain of a particulate. For those not savvy – BE WARNED! you have just spectroscopicly absorbed your daily dose of SCIENCE! ;)

I have used Azureus for long, and then started utorrent recently when i moved to windows for a while, I wish utorrent was for linux too I would go and use bttorrent or whatever default linux client is. But i can say Azureus hogs system, I have 3.2 GhZ Intel Proocessor and 4GB RAM and i still feel the choke. well when I say Azureus is slow, I mean in comparison to utorrent/ktorrent/bttorrenttui. I am linux guy so well i believe in one thing the linux philosphy, just let the damn thing do one thing only and make it do good. on that criteria utorrent 10./10 Azureus 4/10 has too many features for just being a bittorrent client.

I used utorrent today and saw someone connected to me via remote-winsock port 1745 from their port 44444…. the associated application when using netstat -b was utorrent.exe… very suspicious

Buddy, thanks!!

I agree Utorrent is the best. I used to use Ares Galaxy but I found it to be a bullshit freeware. Now I can link all types of files from Limwire, Ares, Emule, torrents with one software (Utorrent!!) Thanks!!

If your asking how I did it, I have a bin file witch my uncle gave to me (He works in ATI so yeah he has all sorts of softwares!!)

This is quite late but here it is.

I have to agree.uTorrent is looking more and more desirable right now. I’ve had it with Azureus. Too damned slow!

If you can’t decide between the two them, why not use both, and at the same time, thats what I’m doing now. open the .torrent file in both clients but assign them the same download location, see what happens, compare the speeds of Azureus and utorrent for the same torrent, that’ll help you decide which one to keep and which one to get rid off.

Does anyone know why azureus is the only client that manages to connect through my company’s firewall – ok it’s not fast (30Kbs max d/l) and I never get a green connection – always yellow or blue but at least it works. I can’t configure any of the other clients, including utorr, to work.

Any ideas?

Why has this thread been going for over 2 years? Who cares! Get a grip. Morons.

# A single binary, no other files – that’s not correct. utorrent needs files in appdata/utorrent
# Fully-automated upgrade process not correct. fully automated means no input from user. You gotta click the upgrade button ;-) AzCVSUpdater for Azureus is truely fully automated.
When you were using Azureus, you obviously didn’t use AzCVSUpdater, ScaneRSS, SpeedScheduler or any of the extra plugins that extend Az’s functionality even further. And you didn’t even mention seeding, something utorrent is terrible at.
Perhaps you should change your description to – the best bittorrent client for non-seeders :-0

utorrent is closed source. sure they aren’t keeping data on you? And now that utorrent is owned by BitTorrent, Inc, do you know that they are trying daily to get into bed with the same content companies that love the RIAA/MPAA so much.

How easy it is to get people to sell out – make a “better” product that calls home and gives them everything they need to know to put you down.

Well, I still like Azureus more myself. It seems to download stuff faster, or maybe it’s just me?

I still like Azureus more. Maybe it’s just me, but it seems to connect to peers and download stuff faster.

Azureus better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Azureus is open source. uTorrent is closed source. You cannot be sure what the developers will put in there! (DRM protection, tracking, etc?). Downloading speeds are about the same. Azureus uses more resources because it’s Java-based.

Azureus is not that slow. Vuze is no more opensource. Azureus code inside remains GPL. Azureus is almost the one to run in 64Bit native on Vista ( with JRE x64 and SWT x64 not included in installation ). And if you install mlDHT you will have both Mainline DHT ( bitcomet, bittorent, utorrent and others ) and the AzDHT ( Azureus specific DHT ) with PEX support for all clients. It’s also one of the most advanced torrent client in the encryption domain. So yes Vuze (formerly Azureus) take more memory and more CPU cycles than others first class torrent client but is much more powerful and multiplatform because of java.

I use Bitlord and I find it faster than any torrenter arround there is also a pro version witch apparently is faster and more reliable

hey azureus is now more better with vuze it can search torrents also it’s better it has in-built media player it has faster dl speeds that utorrent, azureus is the best whatever you say it’s like a monster truck with speed of hell just size is big.
:D

Well, four years later the “I’m sure those are coming” part seems more and more deceptive. I’ve waited way too much for simple, extremely intuitive features targeting users like me who want to manage hundreds of torrents.