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		<title>By: ray</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/ugly-situation-inbox/#comment-490127</link>
		<dc:creator>ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>moniker not only gives you a 30 -day cooling off period but they send email warnings. i don&#039;t know what else can be done. if your registrar does not do this then its time to change and then maybe they will get the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>moniker not only gives you a 30 -day cooling off period but they send email warnings. i don&#8217;t know what else can be done. if your registrar does not do this then its time to change and then maybe they will get the point.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/ugly-situation-inbox/#comment-1016</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2002 17:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well in a nutshell what Jason said is correct. Snooze ya lose. Anyone who is compitent is going to make sure they set a reminder to renew their URL if their business depends on it. You deserve to lose it if you are his lacks in your business practices.
The flip side of the coin is, this is NOT a new thing. This type of extortion has been attempted in the past and if taken to court, the extortionis loses every time if it is proven that the URL was grabbed for the sole purpose of holding the real owner over a barrel for an excessive amount of money. The trick is....you have to take the URL and ask an amount that makes the original owner question whether court costs are less than the asking price to get their site name back.
In any event....this is OLD NEWS....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well in a nutshell what Jason said is correct. Snooze ya lose. Anyone who is compitent is going to make sure they set a reminder to renew their URL if their business depends on it. You deserve to lose it if you are his lacks in your business practices.<br />
The flip side of the coin is, this is NOT a new thing. This type of extortion has been attempted in the past and if taken to court, the extortionis loses every time if it is proven that the URL was grabbed for the sole purpose of holding the real owner over a barrel for an excessive amount of money. The trick is&#8230;.you have to take the URL and ask an amount that makes the original owner question whether court costs are less than the asking price to get their site name back.<br />
In any event&#8230;.this is OLD NEWS&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/ugly-situation-inbox/#comment-1015</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2002 19:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an ODP editor, I sympathise with Chris. Expired URLs which are then &#039;pornalised&#039; are a total nuisance for us. A perfectly good site, with plenty of useful content, may get several listings throughout the directory. Then, one small slip by the domain holder, and suddenly it&#039;s a porn site. Since we have a tough line on porn (anything remotely pornographic or adult in nature is sent over to the Adult section at &lt;a href=&quot;http://dmoz.org/Adult/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://dmoz.org/Adult/&lt;/a&gt; - even legitimate sites that just happened to have a pornographic banner at time of review), it either gets deleted or sent across to Adult. Therefore, if the owners do finally reclaim the URL, they&#039;ve got to resubmit it.
But surely this is cybersquatting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an ODP editor, I sympathise with Chris. Expired URLs which are then &#39;pornalised&#39; are a total nuisance for us. A perfectly good site, with plenty of useful content, may get several listings throughout the directory. Then, one small slip by the domain holder, and suddenly it&#39;s a porn site. Since we have a tough line on porn (anything remotely pornographic or adult in nature is sent over to the Adult section at <a href="http://dmoz.org/Adult/" rel="nofollow">http://dmoz.org/Adult/</a> &#8211; even legitimate sites that just happened to have a pornographic banner at time of review), it either gets deleted or sent across to Adult. Therefore, if the owners do finally reclaim the URL, they&#39;ve got to resubmit it.<br />
But surely this is cybersquatting?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/ugly-situation-inbox/#comment-1014</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2002 06:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That happened to me with Raver-Girls.com :/  Not that I&#039;d be keeping it up anymore anyway, since I don&#039;t really go to raves.... but still.   We had a nice little community of girls that posted on the message boards and stuff.  Now?  PORN SITE!
What&#039;s more...... the people I registered the domain with, domainzero.com, didn&#039;t even email me to tell me my registration was about to expire!   Hmph!  :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That happened to me with Raver-Girls.com :/  Not that I&#39;d be keeping it up anymore anyway, since I don&#39;t really go to raves&#8230;. but still.   We had a nice little community of girls that posted on the message boards and stuff.  Now?  PORN SITE!<br />
What&#39;s more&#8230;&#8230; the people I registered the domain with, domainzero.com, didn&#39;t even email me to tell me my registration was about to expire!   Hmph!  :(</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/ugly-situation-inbox/#comment-1013</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2002 02:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Jason. Pay attention to your bills and this type of thing wont happen. If you&#039;ve got an important name or are a big company, just register the damn thing for 10 years or something and be sure to keep the domain record updated of any mailing or e-mail address changes. I&#039;ve registered plenty of domains through various registars, and just about all of them are pretty good about sending invoices a month or two before the expire date through snail mail and e-mail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Jason. Pay attention to your bills and this type of thing wont happen. If you&#39;ve got an important name or are a big company, just register the damn thing for 10 years or something and be sure to keep the domain record updated of any mailing or e-mail address changes. I&#39;ve registered plenty of domains through various registars, and just about all of them are pretty good about sending invoices a month or two before the expire date through snail mail and e-mail.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/ugly-situation-inbox/#comment-1012</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2002 23:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to the main rant all I can say is... you snooze, you lose. You pay for a domain for a certain period of time. If you don&#039;t pay the rent then you get the boot and someone else moves in. If your domains are so precious pay for it for 10 years and stop whining.  Registering dropping domains is a business. There are thousands and thousands of dropping sites all the time from people who have gone out of business and have residual traffic. Buying that traffic by purchasing the failed domain is just a business move. Why should people who buy the names of people who absentmindedly let a name drop feel obligated to sell it back for anything but what they feel a fair market cost is? And domains go on a blackout period before they&#039;re dropped so these people had more than enough time to figure out that they need to pay attention and pay their bills. And I don&#039;t know of a single registrar that doesn&#039;t email the owner multiple times to remind them to pay. If your registrar doesn&#039;t remind you that your bills are due then you might want to consider switching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to the main rant all I can say is&#8230; you snooze, you lose. You pay for a domain for a certain period of time. If you don&#39;t pay the rent then you get the boot and someone else moves in. If your domains are so precious pay for it for 10 years and stop whining.  Registering dropping domains is a business. There are thousands and thousands of dropping sites all the time from people who have gone out of business and have residual traffic. Buying that traffic by purchasing the failed domain is just a business move. Why should people who buy the names of people who absentmindedly let a name drop feel obligated to sell it back for anything but what they feel a fair market cost is? And domains go on a blackout period before they&#39;re dropped so these people had more than enough time to figure out that they need to pay attention and pay their bills. And I don&#39;t know of a single registrar that doesn&#39;t email the owner multiple times to remind them to pay. If your registrar doesn&#39;t remind you that your bills are due then you might want to consider switching.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/ugly-situation-inbox/#comment-1011</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2002 20:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was about to register a domain name and saw it had been purchased last month... precisely the time I created the Web site with the domain name I wanted. I didn&#039;t scoop it up then because I didn&#039;t know where I was going with it. It was purchased by someone with VeriSign, the owners of NetSol. Well, guess what, .org wasn&#039;t available, so I got it and now we&#039;ll see if they&#039;ll sell .com for regular price or not. If not, too bad, so sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was about to register a domain name and saw it had been purchased last month&#8230; precisely the time I created the Web site with the domain name I wanted. I didn&#39;t scoop it up then because I didn&#39;t know where I was going with it. It was purchased by someone with VeriSign, the owners of NetSol. Well, guess what, .org wasn&#39;t available, so I got it and now we&#39;ll see if they&#39;ll sell .com for regular price or not. If not, too bad, so sad.</p>
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