Top 5 Reasons Eudora is Better than Apple Mail
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I personally use Microsoft Outlook 2007 in an Exchange environment for my email. I’ve used Eudora in the past, and wasn’t very happy with it. However, CalgaryGuru sent me the top 5 reasons he uses Eudora instead of the Apple Mail. By the way, he is also using Tiger (10.4) and not Leopard (10.5).
- Images pasted into Apple Mail are automatically converted to .tif format. If I wanted them as a .tif, I would have saved them that way.
- With Apple Mail, you can only send messages that are plain text or Rich Text Format. You can’t send an HTML email.
- Speed… the more saved messages you have, the slower Apple Mail gets. For power users, this is crippling when trying to work.
- Apple Mail has no formatting controls in the message window.
- If a message has styled text and images both, Apple Mail will send it out twice. With Eudora, you can send them as one regular message.
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42 Comments
Windows Vista Torrent
December 6th, 2007
at 1:56am
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ex295
December 5th, 2007
at 9:26am
First comment? First in failure.
markus12343
December 5th, 2007
at 10:04am
I also just use Gmail it does all I need… but I’m not a poweruser.
laaabaseball
December 5th, 2007
at 10:17am
Yahoo Mail would be better if it were faster.
DavidDude96
December 5th, 2007
at 10:51am
i love my apple mail
MajereR
December 5th, 2007
at 12:17pm
How can i access hotmail through apple mail????
(OS X 10.5)
johnjohn0701
December 5th, 2007
at 1:27pm
is it really true that ur wife is phone sex operator?
Brian7490
December 5th, 2007
at 1:31pm
yep
SLT23C
December 5th, 2007
at 2:52pm
Leopard = FTW
Pi57457
December 5th, 2007
at 5:28pm
I use mail program that come with Leopard. But I use Gmail account. All I did just enter Username and password into that program. So, I don’t know if I use Gmail or apple mail really. I works GREATTTTTTTT.
Matt Baker
December 5th, 2007
at 6:02pm
Its “Mail” not “Email” (the name of the Apple eMail Program” JUST FYI So the headline should be “Top 5 Reasons Eudora is Better than Apple Mail” although i strongly disagree…
Duncan
December 5th, 2007
at 6:33pm
I can’t speak from Mac Mail in Tiger, but I switched from Thunderbird to Mac Mail in Leopard and I’ll never be going back. The seamless integration with the OS, from clicking on a date to make an auto iCal entry (which gives it Outlook style functionality, not fully, but close enough to me that its worth while) Quicklook which is a good send for attachments, easy to use multi-email account support etc..
W Lane
December 5th, 2007
at 7:01pm
Um, cool but……….
• Images pasted into Apple Mail are automatically converted to .tif format. If I wanted them as a .tif, I would have saved them that way.
Not true. Just tested it by sending a jpeg to 5 people, 2 on Mac and 3 on PC as well as BCC’ing myself. Everyone got it as a jpeg
• With Apple Mail, you can only send messages that are plain text or Rich Text Format. You can’t send an HTML email.
Not true in 10.5
• Speed… the more saved messages you have, the slower Apple Mail gets. For power users, this is crippling when trying to work.
Huh?
I have, at present, about 30 gig of ’stuff’ in my Mail folder. Just taking a quick look through and a couple of my mailing list folders have >25000 emails. No slowdowns that I’ve ever noticed.
• Apple Mail has no formatting controls in the message window.
Not quite sure what you’re referring to here. I compose an email, I send it, folks never complain about the ‘format’ on the receiving end so I assume that Apple has it configured to send properly. But, like I say, I’m not sure what you mean.
• If a message has styled text and images both, Apple Mail will send it out twice. With Eudora, you can send them as one regular message.
Mail has never done this for me, sending a message twice, regardless of configuration. You must have the ‘no extra cost scramblizing feature’ installed, or something.
:)
For me, Mail ‘just works’
Idiotonuni
December 5th, 2007
at 8:34pm
I like Eudora but I love Thunderbird. I find Eudora’s UI and just not user friendly. I also use linux so its nice to have a cross platform email client. yes, i know Eudora is cross platform but it doesn’t run natively on linux. :( What is your opinion: Eudora, Thunderbird, or Outlook?
Wayne
December 5th, 2007
at 9:04pm
You say that photos PASTED into Mail are converted to TIFF format, and if you’d wanted TIFF you’d have SAVED it that way. If you SAVED it a specific way and attached it, you get that. Copy/paste is NOT saving.
You can’t send HTML emails in Leopard? I though Stationary was HTML emails. (Though composing an HTML email from scratch is an issue, so you get 80% correct on that one.)
Apple Email is slower in Leopard? Huh? I have tens of thousands of messages in various mailboxes and don’t see the slowdown of which you speak. (And searching in Leopard is VERY fast.)
I think you posted half-crazed on this one.
George Berger
December 5th, 2007
at 10:06pm
We’ve used Eudora since transferring over from Pine years ago. 4.2.6 is running nicely on Tiger (10.4.11), and we have no intention of changing to another e-mail app until/ unless Apple decides to screw up our capability to use Eudora in some follow-on upgrade of the OS.
Eudora’s “Junk Mail” capability is better than any other we’ve tried. It’s very easy to pull up “Junk,” run down through the messages and delete the 99.995% of the spam we receive – - letting us pull out the legitimate messages that the filter threw into Junk.
And, sending attachments is a breeze. The Mailbox and Address Book sections are just what they should be.
Delldude1989
December 5th, 2007
at 10:44pm
Well it think that you are right
jomjom123
December 6th, 2007
at 10:24am
Your using Apple Mail with Gmail’s email service. So your email client is Apple Mail.
jomjom123
December 6th, 2007
at 10:25am
until they allow smtp or something similar, you cant.
willij
December 6th, 2007
at 3:29am
I will have to try Eudora. I tried to find screenshots of it first. It will work with Google’s IMAP right? I wonder how thunderbird stacks up to Eudora? Good tips.
owen0334
December 6th, 2007
at 11:31am
Apple Mail!
btw…does ANYONE know how to use a free yahoo account with Apple Mail? Please don’t tell me to upgrade to Yahoo Plus. I’ve heard that already, but it’s not worth it.
Thanks.
Bob Delamare
December 6th, 2007
at 4:41am
I have used Eudora since I don’t know when, maybe since Windows 3.11. I find it simpler and, in the past, more feature rich than Outlook Express. Also it was always more secure and less of a target for the bad guys, who seem to concentrate on scamming Microsoft products.
gardistan
December 6th, 2007
at 6:24pm
I quit Eudora due to lack of UTF-support. I actually need UTF, because it’s the only way to write in Sámi.
Eitan Edward Wugalter
December 6th, 2007
at 11:52am
I’ve been using Eudora since Eudora Lite 2.0.
I love the user interface, the spam filtering, the wonderful non-proprietary plugin availabilities, such as , Search and Replace, Remove Quote, Unwrap Text, Toggle Case. I’ve tried Outlook, Outlook Express, but not Outlook 2007. I love the Mailbox management.
Infinity Data Systems is redeveloping the Eudora program under the name Odysseus. Check it out here.
http://www.infinitydatasystems.com/products/odysseus/index.html
Eytan
December 6th, 2007
at 3:50pm
Confused….
- I have pasted JPEGs and they have remained JPEGs (In Apple Mail)
- In Safari, I can choose to enclose the current page as an email – which makes it HTML email. Unfortunately, you are right, you cannot edit it as HTML in mail, but you can easily paste in any HTML page and it will render properly
- Maybe it is because I have Leopard, but I have over 50,000 saved emails on my MacBook Pro going back 7+ years (the Outlook Express Mac>Entourage>Mail transition, yeah yeah I should clean it up) and I do NOT see a slowdown
- The mail message may not have center/left/right, but it has color, fonts, you can set bold/italic/etc – this is a Mac, not Windows. You don’t need a little toolbar icon for every single function – I am typing, I want bold, Command-B does just fine… anyone who moves to the toolbar to click the “bold” icon deserves Windows…
- That is a feature allowing your intended audience to have a text version show up if they desire to use a NON HTML email client. I would rather they see that plain text than a bunch of tags mixed in in the text because their email client cannot render it. If there text based client is worth anything, it will properly handle that and only display/retrieve the text based version of the email….
There are plenty of things to not like in Mail, but that list was ridonculous….
Eytan
December 6th, 2007
at 3:51pm
SOrry about the “there” instead of their in the last one…
DybbukAtroxic
December 7th, 2007
at 12:26am
it is not possible at all unless you have Plus…You need POP3 service for the yahoo account in order to use it on a separate client. Yahoo ONLY supplies POP3 functionality with the Plus version…which is another reason why I hate Yahoo. When I used yahoo I have at least 50 new spam emails a day…and with GMail I get maybe 1 a week usually not even 1 every couple weeks. Gmail also supports POP3 for free.
owen0334
December 7th, 2007
at 3:38am
Thanks.
I use Gmail, but I’ve had Yahoo for a long time, so I get most of my email through that account.
There is a program out there to make Yahoo support POP3, but it isn’t updated anymore and was really buggy.
DybbukAtroxic
December 7th, 2007
at 4:07am
exactly…which is why it is best to just avoid Yahoo mail. :) My yahoo account gets tons of emails every day mostly spam so I just abandoned it entirely and started fresh with gmail.
H1P2S
December 7th, 2007
at 4:26am
I have leopard, — my gmail email, my o2 email and my apple email are all controlled by mail. I love mail. Mail in leopard is awesome. I liked it in tiger, but leopard is far superior.
owen0334
December 7th, 2007
at 10:40am
I wish I had that option, but mixed in with the spam I get important emails too.
MajereR
December 7th, 2007
at 4:26pm
Thank you!
masterOFpuppets06
December 8th, 2007
at 11:23am
i use gmail….killed my yahoo service 4 months ago (hate the ads)
Jr4594
December 9th, 2007
at 4:13am
ive never gotten an email with music but i can only imagine your reaction to one haha
QuickCon
December 11th, 2007
at 7:02am
Second comment? Second in the line of failure.
bedaman10
December 11th, 2007
at 9:00am
dude u have no life. all u do is loook at crysis beta…fag
IvanMG
December 12th, 2007
at 6:51am
I’ve tried Eudora, Thunderbird, Exchange,… (sorry, I’m not an Apple user) and I think the best option is TheBat because it is a highly configurable program.
For example, I usually send emails in different languages (spanish, english, german) depending on the addressee. TB allows me to have different templates depending on the folder where the message is stored, the addresse, the account I’m using and so on. I really need that feature (amongst many others) and I haven’t found it in any other mail client.
OmniDragon
December 14th, 2007
at 10:36pm
yeah i know it says keep in mind that he’s using tiger and not leopard, however….none of those things are a problem in leopard. Pasting an entire webpage into an email couldn’t be simpler. I’ve never had a problem with mail working slowly. Also, one of the best features i’ve found so far with Mail for the mac, is i never get spam……….ever. Maybe that’s Mail, maybe that’s gmail or both, i’m not sure, but i’ve never recieved a spam email in my Mail inbox on the mac
marksis
March 24th, 2008
at 5:14am
Calgary Guru here… Since this video was recorded, I’ve since moved to a newer Mac that came with Leopard… So far, I’ve been sticking with the Apple Mail that comes with Leopard and as Chris said, it has finally received some attention and a lot of my objections about the program have been rectified. Also, being an INTEL Mac, I went with Apple Mail over Eudora 6.2.4 as that program would have run in emulation. So far so good, although I still miss some features I had in Eudora. – Calgary Guru
testesterone
April 14th, 2008
at 4:19am
what a terrible and annoyin accent
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at 10:02am
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JP
August 14th, 2009
at 6:33pm
Apple mail is the best. I’ll never go back to another mail client.