Then Please Stop

Cheese makes the world a better place. Yay! Keep your chin up Chris. We're here for you. Don't lose your sense of humor, its one of the best things about you. :0)

Oh, it is, Nikalyn? :-) Like I have been saying… Keep it up…

The only thing better than pizza is free pizza. And the only thing better than free pizza is I just got invited to a focus group next week where they're paying me $30 to eat pizza. Yay!

Hey Chris,
It's impossible to please everybody in this world. I think people take things too far though.
Like Nikalyn said, keep your chin up, and keep on having fun.

I've puked on the rug before, so I guess I don't have that rock to toss at Sprocket.
There is no limit to what you can get on a pizza in California. Tho, Tic Tacs would be challenging.
Your readership has such youthful angst. For every admirer, there are at least two who just want to cut you down to size. It's a ying yang thing. Then one day… a defining moment.
I'm doing some routine crap on my 82 year old Aunt Blanche's PC and I get a good look at her IE cookies. Oh, my God!! This is so gross. I'm never going to those chat rooms again.

Since you mention your wife .. how is her drinking problem these days ?

http://www.lgngfaq.com/response.htm
The Libera Manifesto http://www.lockergnome.com/manifesto.html
The Lockergnome Challenge
http://www.lockergnome.com/challenge.html
this was the first time I have ever heard of a donation drive for a for profit business.
Now tell me who is whining?

Chris, I don't understand how you calmly dismiss the apparently scurrulous inuendo and conjecture that these sub- human cretins spew about your wife. i was taught that nobody talks any trash about women: mine, yours, In-the MSFT-pocket's. However, I guess that not everyone has manners, or an education.
Eveybody deals with problems differently.
Good luck with this situation, and keep up the great work.

He is the one who posted the pictures to the newsgroup. He knows what I'm talking about

If whoever is talking about pictures is referring to the bumpersticker picture, you are incorrect.
Chris was not the first one to post that link–Lori posted it in the newsletter. And if I had any reservations about it or felt that I was being “pimped out,” then I suppose maybe I wouldn't have done it.
Drinking problem? It's fine nowadays! I've learned that you need to drink out of the bottom side of the cup, not the top. :) Things have gotten a lot better since I realized that; thanks for your concern.
(Also, FYI, the Lockergnome challenge was started back in the early days of Lockergnome (circa 1996) when Lockergnome did not have advertising income. It's not a recent phenomenon.)

No Gretchen, I'm not talking about just the bumper sticker photo, I'm talking about the whole thing. IIRC, you had hopes of moving into modeling and were using Chris/Lockergnome as kind of a spring board to show off your portfolio. It was totally out of place and it didn't belong there. Besides, I never said he was first but trust me, he was very much involved. One of those rare time that he was involved in the LGNG. Many, including myself found it rather distasteful and ill suited for a computer ezine.
I also know that the Lockergnome challenge was started way back but was reintroduced about a year ago at about the same time that the Manifesto was released.

I read the “response”.
Words fail me. Well not all of them: the guy should move to Cuba. Oh, and maybe contribute his entire yearly salary (if he works) so that maybe 2 or 3 medium-traffic intensive websites can actually stay online for a few months.
Some people really have no clue.

Jumping Jesus on a pogo stick! What is turbofish's problem with all of this? Has he nothing better to do than stir up unwarranted trouble? Frankly, I think he just needs a good cheese pizza and some quiet time. Until he triumphs over his personal demons, It seems as though we have nothing better to do than ignore him

It seems to me that TurboFish has taken the Libera Manifesto in completely the wrong way. He seems to believe that it was written purely with Lockergnome in mind. He couldn't be further from the truth. The Libera Manifesto was written with everyone who provides a free service in mind.
So “Without us, you'd have to pay for everything.” isn't one of the biggest pieces of BS, its the most true. If nobody did anything for free, you would have to pay for everything.
TurboFish, get off your high horse (or subterrainian ego) and wake up to whats really the truth. You're spurting off this crap and it isn't helping anyone or anything. If you don't like what's going on here, turn your back and leave it all behind. Don't stand there and bitch about it because frankly, we're not listening.

Turbofish, I've been wanting to model since I was twelve years old. That's a fact. Was I using Chris's site to “springboard?” Hardly. I have no printed portfolio yet, I had not even taken any pictures for it before the Gnomegirls photos, which were taken for the sole purpose of Gnomedex. Just because my “bio” on that happened to say “aspiring model and actress,” some may believe that I'm on Chris's site so that someone will “see me.” Whatever. If I wanted to use the Internet I would go to a specific modeling marketing site and use that. Or, I will create my own site. Fact is, I have no pictures yet. Will some of the ones I took for that shoot turn up in my portfolio? Maybe.
But I am not to the point to where I'm doing that, and if I did, you'd probably never find me under the name Gretchen Pirillo… I'm looking for success on my own merits, and a technology help site is certainly not the place to market myself for what I'm looking for.

To Rick: Where do I sign up for free pizza?
To Chris P.: You shouldn't have pulled the plug on the NGs until the new system was ready to be brought online. I'm very disappointed that they were taken offline before the new system was online. This has spurred various ideas of why it was really taken down. Now only you will truely know why and people will say what they think. But it probably would have gone much smoother if you hadn't pulled the plug before the new system was ready to go online.
To Turbofish: See the Quiet newsgroups you know what I wrote.
To Gretchen P.: I believe you with your modeling thing. And that it was done for Gnomedex. However I still think it was a poor choice to sell these on the Lockergnome site because Lockergnome is a tech site. If anywhere they should have been sold on your site. Plus if sold on your site I would think more would be sold…(An idea that may not be too late to implement)
To Dilandou: Please understand what happened with the newgroups. There was a small “melee” in tech.tips which kinda coinsided with the closing of the NGs. This has left many people wondering. Myself included. I'm not going to quote it, but I'm going to say it had to do with GnomeTones and Libra Manifesto.

TUBBOFISH YOU IDOT!!!! Look at the lockergnome challenge page again moron!! It has HUNDREDS of people who sent money!! And some of them sent TONS of money!!!! That shows that all those people disagree with you and like lockergnome and gave money to it. I think im gonna send chris a 20 spot or something too.

Chris, PLEASE block his IP, the guys a jerk.

techie2000: If you live near Toronto, Ontario I can get you free pizza. If you live anywhere else your pizza might look a bit like ET stepped on it after the UPS man gets his mitts on it.
turbofish: You, sir, are the itchy arsehole on the body of life, and man do I feel the need to scratch it away.
Chris: I don't think we have to tell you to ignore him. Keep doing what you're doing.
-Rick.

Hey Rick! I live near Toronto. How about that free pizza? :)

Rick: No I live in the good ole US of A. So no free Pizza for me…

“However I still think it was a poor choice to sell these on the Lockergnome site because Lockergnome is a tech site.”
Personally, I thought they were hysterically funny and I have considered, more then once, to BUY one. Tech site with a sense of humor, KICK ASS! :) I *heart* GnomeGirls! Pin-ups ROCK! If I get to GnomeDex, I'm bringing my own with me. Maybe Chris will offer them for sale next fall. OH! “The Girls of the Gnome” Calendar! 2003! Let's do it!

What others on the web are starting to say. Note: I have no part in these sites.
http://rivernetusa.com/
Warning: Foul language
http://www.mbass.org/MBA/LockerFucker/Lockerfucker.htm

Rivernetusa's comments are ridiculous, and mbass.org talks mroe about his penis than his hatred for Chris. Sorry, neither of those sites are remotely compelling.

“turbofish” wrte:
> IIRC, you had hopes of moving into modeling and were
> using Chris/Lockergnome as kind of a spring board to
> show off your portfolio. It was totally out of place
> and it didn't belong there.
Gee, I musta missed something.
When did an anonymous coward like yourself earn the right to dictate the contents of other peoples' newsletters, imbecile?
JGB

http://www.mikesblog.com/gnomie4life.php

I have a feeling all this publicity is gonna get chris a bunch of hits and a bunch of people signing up for his newsletter!!
Its all a big joke, isn't it?

Hey Mike, great (okay, good) minds think alike:
http://www.spiffle.com/rants/04-06-2002_02-35pm

Man it's just gets better and better!!!!
Why in the world does turdfish think anyone needs his approval or opinion. I'm about to get real ignorant here!!!
Are you jealous that the lockergnome girls are soo cute they CAN pose and it was so much a hit and you might just not be married to a girl as cute as any of the lockergnome girls???
who are you to say what avenue G should take in her modeling career??? Why should she not benefit from her husband's success too? Has she not supported him from day one??? The whole game of modeling/acting is WHO you know.
My mother is a big time executive in Southern Ca and when I wanted to work in the computer industry did I take a job at Mcdonalds???? No I went to my mother and she used her influence to get me in. Dude you are in serious need of help!!!!
G…. when we hit gnomedex let's get some drinks :) Chris can video us and then they really will have something to talk about hee hee

Just ignore him and he will go away. The more response he gets the more he will post.

If Turbofish so dislikes LockerGnome, why does he continue to come here? As far as I know, he has free run to decide which sites to visit. And about Gretchen, She is a very sweet Lady ( and I mean Lady). I for one have the picture prominently displayed in my cube at work. And get lots of positive comments on it.

Gosh Chris – thats Truly pathetic. No, not you ! The lookalike website. I sure hope you dont let something like that bother you. I mean for real – I know its easy enough to say it doesn't-and still be bothered by mindlessness …took me a lifetime of stubbornly sticking to my “guns” (so to speak)
Before it was true. What about the many more who's life you've made a very positive mark on – and at a very young age relatively speaking. I dont agree 100% sometimes either, but so what !
Some individuals should never have been let out of high school….or in this case 3rd grade. Gosh – with my mail address out there – maybe I'll get lucky and he'll write to me !
I'd love it. And tho I shouldn't say such things, he would be in for the surprise of his idiotic young life. But then – I didn't say that did I ?
Regards;
Tom Collins

Ok, I've been a subscriber for longer than I can remember to the newsletters. I've had to re-subscribe so many times because of changing email addresses I've lost count of that too. But, I learned a long time ago that no matter what the topic, public forums always invite the most prolific growth of moronspeak and so I rarely join in the discussion.
But this is one that I couldn't resist. Chris, I envy your success and wish I had been fortunate enough to have the forsight to start something like Lockergnome all those many years ago. Keep up the good work and I hope your business continues to be a money-making venture. That is, after all why anyone goes into business for themselves. I know you spent years living on a shoestring budget and worked as a consultant to help pay the bills. I seem to recall a number of newsletter articles that described you having a full day at some client's site and still taking the time to sit down and publish the next day's missive. I also recall being amazed that you had taken the time to not only read the email that came your way from guys like me but took the time to respond as well. Gretchen is a saint to be willing to put up with all that lost time.
Gretchen, good luck with whatever you do. I didn't start reading Lockergnome newsletters and visiting the LG site because of you but I find your occasional contributions to be refreshing.
Turbophish or whatever, I suspect you have a lot of time on your hands. Because I rather doubt you have quite the work ethic of a guy like Chris. Instead, I suspect you are mostly unemployed or unemployable. If I'm wrong and you are fabulously successful and doing just fine in whatever it is you call a career, well that's ok too. Either way, why don't you just piss off and leave these folks alone. You don't like them, fine. Nobody is saying you have an obligation to visit or read the content of LG.
Bottom line, I think this whole snafu is a little bit sad and little funny. Like a Gene Wilder movie! So, everybody go back to their corners, wipe the sweat out of your eyes and come back in fighting. I'm ready for another round of entertainment.

Chris, first I do NOT hate you, Gretchen and that cute dog Sprocket. I am a long time Gnomie, and still subscribe to your newsletter. I purchased one of those Gnomie hints for $5.00. I recognise that TurboFish may be over reacting with his attacks on you, but I also feel you over reacted by shutting down the newsgroups with NO ADVANCE NOTICE. Chris, that just was not professional and it surprises me.
You have/had the right to close them down, since they were groups bearing the name of Lockergnome, but if it was only a few people as you say causing these problems wouldn't it have been best to have Bill ban these people? Or was this not logically feasable?
At the very least we in the groups should have been given advance notice, and your reasons to us as to why you felt the action necessary.
I tried to log in one fine day to share jokes in the Lockergnome humor newsgroups, and see how my fellow gnomies were doing…especially some who were very ill and I was worried about. What I found was Bill's statement that the server was being upgraded. Only later did I find that was not the case, that instead the communtiy, most of whom were your fans…had been eliminated totally. It hurt Chris!
No, I will not stop reading Lockergnome, no I don't now hate you and will not join TurboFish's club against you…but I want you to realize how it felt, and why many Gnomies who were your biggest fans now feel betrayed.