The Wow Starts Now?
Wow.
I’m not a masochist - I’m just waiting for Apple to blow me away. That day may come with Leopard, or it may come with the iPhone. I’m getting used to medicore experiences with mediocre software - and I’m getting used to waiting for my personal computer to catch up to my expectations. Even Microsoft’s Silverlight platform runs cross-platform - which doesn’t make it any easier to stick with an OS that doesn’t really… “wow” anybody.
I’m fully willing to concede that some of my problems may be hardware related - but aren’t some hardware-related problems ultimately related to software? Mind you, I’m not using offbrand components! This particular PC is a custom-built QuadFX running atop an nForce chipset - with nVidia video cards and name-brand peripherals (HP, Logitech, etc.).
Don’t sit through this entire video - I only uploaded it (intact) to prove that I’m not crazy:
I had to reboot one more time before I was able to get going again - a full 45 minutes after the first Vista BSOD. And by “first,” I mean the first Blue Screen of Death I encountered today. They don’t happen EVERY day - but have been smacking me in the face more frequently as of late.









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wisher
May 1st, 2007
at 2:32am
Vista show the BSOD after startup or while you were working?
If you were working what are you doing?
JDoors
May 1st, 2007
at 8:54am
Speaking from a Luddite’s point of view (still using Windows ‘9x) the obvious cure would have been another reboot. If after a reboot things are not fixed, it’s sometimes better to RE-reboot. Something didn’t load, or didn’t load correctly, or something interferred with something (how’s that for a technical explanation?).
Sure, it shouldn’t be necessary, but by now we “should” have computers that work, right?
Also, I wonder if there might be something going wrong with your hardware (or drivers). BSOD’s are “smacking you in the face more frequently?” It’s not Vista that’s changed over time, is it?
Justin
May 1st, 2007
at 9:45am
Do you have a link to that microphone?
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May 1st, 2007
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Robert McLaws
May 1st, 2007
at 12:43pm
Nvidia is your problem. Their stuff is horrible. Their Vista support is atrocious.
Matt Hartley
May 1st, 2007
at 1:48pm
Don’t feel too bad, Ubuntu’s much hyped “Feisty” was a let down on many fronts when compared to the stable, usable and not ****-tacular Edgy.
So in someways, Ubuntu users are sharing in your upgrade pain.
http://tinyurl.com/3xm2op
But overall, I think Vista is still a step up over XP regarding security, just not in the stability front. Same with Edgy vs Feisty I suppose…
Matt Hartley
May 1st, 2007
at 1:53pm
Oh, and I generally say:
ATI cards in Windows - good.
NVIDIA cards in Linux - good.
Switching this will generally prove to be problematic both ways.
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May 1st, 2007
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Kent Pribbernow
May 1st, 2007
at 7:18pm
I feel your pain. Since installing Vista Ultimate on my home built rig (I scored a free copy from participating as a beta tester for MS, how ironic), I encountered frequent BSODs, sometimes mutliple crashes DAILY. In my case the problem was related to a driver issue with the NetGear GA311 PCI NIC card, which Vista mistakenly identified as a RealTek card. Nvidia’s Nforce ethernet controller is a HUGE troublemaker as well.
So far the only thing I am wowed by is Vista’s ability to crash for no apparent reason. It’s been in this shaky state for the past 8 weeks. Fortunately I discovered that NetGear recently released an updated driver for this particular card, even though a compatible driver is supposedly included on the Vista install DVD. Things appear to be stabalizing for now, but I find myself wondering why I even bother running this still in beta OS. It sure as hell isn’t for fun. Even more grating to me is how much slower this machine runs compared to XP Pro. For me, it’s THE SORROW STARTS NOW.
Kent Pribbernow
May 1st, 2007
at 7:37pm
Eh…what happened to my comment? It like, vanished!
Paul
May 1st, 2007
at 8:05pm
I am on my second build (format) of Vista and I am still getting intermittent errors. No BSODs, but annoying enough errors where I need to reboot to get my system stable again. The biggest culprit is the Dreamscene “moving” backgrounds.
I have a 3GB of RAM and a nVidia 6900 GT. I will try updating the video drivers AGAIN and see if the newest batch makes any difference.
Can you say not ready for prime time? When is Vista Service Pack TWO coming out? ;)
Paul
May 1st, 2007
at 8:06pm
Opps I meant I have a 7900 GT. My bad.
Brandon Paddock
May 1st, 2007
at 11:48pm
Whoa, I didn’t even know those things still existed =P
Actually, there will always be blue screens as long as there’s faulty hardware. What was the error code it showed you?
Brandon Paddock
May 1st, 2007
at 11:56pm
Dude, your machine is HOSED. That’s definitely not Vista… I’ve seen single-proc P4s run Vista faster than that.
Noitall
May 2nd, 2007
at 7:33am
No kidding, Vista sucks. I had about 5 BSODs in the first two weeks, while working, not booting. On a new, factory installed Vista box too! Way more than XP, even tho I lost XP in a failed antivirus uninstall. Ugly!
PS When are you going to accept and embrace your masocism? ;-)
Noitall
May 2nd, 2007
at 7:35am
Oh I forgot. Really funny re the beatiful appearance of BSOD in Vista. Too true!
Alijah Green
May 3rd, 2007
at 9:35am
I have never had a BSOD on my Vista machine. I built my desktop from scratch. I did research first before jumping into the water. I am pretty sure it is your motherboard giving you the problem and if you are using IDE cable hard drive then your performance will not be all that great.
if your having problems such as slow performance crashing. its your fault for buying from a vendor. I too was once a fool, but never again. Really though if you call yourself a Geek then why would you buy when you know its better to build.
Alijah Green
May 3rd, 2007
at 9:47am
Almost forgot to mention but when changing your boot sequence what OS was on the USB drive maybe XP. Also you never explained what you were doing pryor to you getting the blue screen. BSOD always come from hardware failure so that is telling something, So get off your Vista bashing party
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jason
May 4th, 2007
at 5:24am
You say that you’re not using off-brand products, but then in the second sentence you say that you’re using a custom built whatever. I would think that something custom built would have more problems. It shouldn’t, but it could. Just my two cents.
Eric
May 4th, 2007
at 6:29am
When I realized I became conditioned to accept sub-par software, I switched. Damn, I sound like one of those cheesy ads now.
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May 4th, 2007
at 8:04am
Earlier this week (not last week as I say in the video), Chris made his Vista gripes quite appreciable as he documented in his The Wow Starts Now? video some of the ugly, painful experiences he’s had with it on his AMD QuadFX (pre-production?) machine. He insists that Vista is slower than XP. If he had an outdated machine, that would be believable
Matt Hartley
May 4th, 2007
at 10:51am
Yeah man, the more I look into it, the more I am saying that ATI is going to be more Vista friendly thus far as nividia is more aligned with XP and Linux right now. Basically, whether you realize it or not, you have just stepped over to the love/hate relationship I have with Ubuntu. When it sucks, it sucks hard. But then for work, I have to use Windows for some specialty software reason (in a VM of course) and all the reasons I took the time to learn more about Ubuntu came rushing back to me. I would say the same applies between Vista and XP. Vista is just more secure than XP.
So here is my take. Act like a Linux user here. Not saying you ought to grow a ponytail and an attitude, rather look at what hardware is going to work the best based on this OS’ needs. I would examine my soundcard, video card and my all-in-one peripherals. Verify and if need be, and switch components known to better work with Vista.
Honestly, I can still not get my Vista bluetooth supported driver to install, but would also point out that it worked in Dapper, failed in Edgy and is working again in Feisty - so yeah, “stuff” happens.
sjc1963
May 4th, 2007
at 2:02pm
I bought and installed Vista Home Basic on January 31st and within a week I had to reinstall it 3 times because after installing my programs it would start to BSOD and not allow me to even getting to Vista. I found out that it was a certain program and since I stopped using it I haven’t had too much trouble with BSODS. I also disabled a lot of stuff and got the speed up to more than acceptable. Though, since then I’ve added more RAM, got a faster HD (SATA from IDE) and now using an 1GB flash drive with Readyboost as well..
tsaw
May 5th, 2007
at 1:09pm
Chris - please tell me about that kewl clock on the top of the video!
I WANT ONE BAD!
Ed
May 6th, 2007
at 11:39am
Vista doesnt like amd cpu’s, and nvidia nforce drivers barely came out for vista. It runs fine all three of my laptops no bsods no freezes, on a core duo on nvidia 7300, core 2 duo on intel 945 video, and core duo on nvidia 7600 they all run fine and all of them outperform my friends amd fx on benchmarking. My experience with vista is that its picky with drivers and doesnt like non vista drivers also had problems with my friends amd fx nvidia sli motherboard but later fixed with drivers. Try looking for updates on your board.
Marcus
May 17th, 2007
at 1:03am
Funny you say that Vista doesn’t like AMD cpu’s, Ed, because I happen to be typing this on a Vista machine with an AMD X2 38000+. System is stable as a rock, and highly responsive, too.
james
July 11th, 2007
at 10:08am
hey another BSOD cause on Vista, there is a certain combo which leads to BSOD
Vista + Nforce4 Serial ATA controller + Ipod = BSOD for “long transfers” such as videos or photos…
and all the companies blame each other… :(
slackerism
December 31st, 2007
at 8:17pm
GUI, Microsoft’s tag line for the new release was “The WOW starts Now!“. But it would seem to Chris Pirillo, founder of Lockergnome and tech conference Gnomedex, that the line was probably closer to “The WOW starts How?“. And it would seem that Chris was not the only one facing problems with Vista, as many blogs started claiming that performance in XP was actually better than that of Vista, even prompting Microsoft to offer free downgrades to XP