The Mess Called MSN Messenger

It's a good thing you wrote this. I am sure Microsoft is working head over heels to address these issues and please you until your heart is content.
Use Trillian, F M$….

You *CAN* remove the tabs BTW. Its in the privacy section of the options I bealieve. I dont have them showing anyway, hough that might be caused by their being disabled (in the porivacy section) before I upgraded if the option has been removed.

You can remove the tabs from the side. Tools -> Options -> Privacy and check “This is a shared computer so don't display my tabs”. So that gets rid of points 1 and 2.
Secondly you can get rid of the banner using MsgPlus – http://www.msgplus.net – which is a really cool add on to the standard MSN Messenger which some nice features.
Lastly I MSN chat links open up just fine as per my Firefox “open in new tab” setting. So something is up with your configuration. Works like that on my mates PCs too.

try IM2 its an intergarted Instant messenger, for free, even without yet having display pics its better than msn.
or switch to yahoo? its less annoying

Well he has many points. I didnt pay for msn messenger but I really think they should instead of try and add more to the features they already have they should fucken make new features such as tab removal and auto messages. YEah sure msgplus is great but we shouldnt have to download stuff to make msn better. I mean. We shouldnt have to have the advertisments either, espseially the ones that pay for the fucken msn. I will be giving more info about my opinion on my space so go to my space and see more stuff. It should be up by December 10th. Ill also be adding more about this often! So go to my space!!!!

Well he has many points. I didnt pay for msn messenger but I really think they should instead of try and add more to the features they already have they should fucken make new features such as tab removal and auto messages. YEah sure msgplus is great but we shouldnt have to download stuff to make msn better. I mean. We shouldnt have to have the advertisments either, espseially the ones that pay for the fucken msn. I will be giving more info about my opinion on my space so go to my space and see more stuff. It should be up by December 10th. Ill also be adding more about this often! So go to my space!!!!

Msgplus may be good but its riddled with spyware and adware.
MSN Messenger is no real change over 6.2
Funny how bored u can get of 10 odd winks or same ol smileys then have to pay for new ones…no thanks.
All i see in this new version is greed.
Can anyone honestly convince me this is better than 6.2?
Chris your very right and the fact im not a paying customer on msn makes my comments not worthy.
Third party chat/im clients do better because they listen to you…not their wallets.

I totally agree with you Chris.
I myself am not a paying customer so I don't need to have the advertisments gone. But for a paying customer like yourself, the whole point is for you to pay them instead of the advertisments.
Simply, Microsoft have gotten greedy.
I agree with the other guy, there wasn't much of a change between 6.2 and 7 apart from:

The partially new layout
The adding of Packs (Which we can put together ourselves)
Winks (Which aren't very important because nearly no one would use them seriously)
Nudges (Which are just a nice addon feature that isn't needed at all. Hence the old: Hey or Are you there?)
and Animated Emotions (Which hardly anyone know how to make anyway)

MsgPlus is a great addon and I personally use it, but in my opinion I shouldn't have to. Apart from a few things that MsgPlus does, I am happy with all of the features.
Microsoft knows about MSGPlus and know that people download it, so why not just intergrate all of it themselves? Why not make it easier for the users that are using MSN Messenger? I have recommened to a couple of my friends to use MSN Messenger saying its great, but if they want all the features I have, then I tell them that they have to download other programs aswell.
Just by this comment, they have completely changed their minds about using MSN Messenger, purely because they have to download another program.
It's just plain stupid.
And there is one more thing, like yourself Chris, that really pisses me off:
The use of Internet Explorer even when my default browser is set to Mozilla Firefox.
I have sent in queries to MSN Messenger myself, telling them that even though I have a different browser, they still stick with IE.
At the moment, the only things that are keeping me from not using MSN Messenger are:
That alot of my friends use it
That I make applications regarding the Messenger services. EG. Chatterbots
And that I like to investigate the Messenger protocol and figure out what it all means (Kind of like a puzzle)
Otherwise, I would have changed from MSN Messenger a long, long time ago.
-Gil

hi

I agree with you on most points, specially with points 4, 5 and 8.
There should be an option for turning the “A new version of MSN Messenger is available” alert off permanently. I would still use v6.1 but this message popped-up every time i signed in and I got bored of it.
Btw, the only thing that is keeping me from switching to Yahoo or AIM is that most ppl here use MSN. Every new version needs more resources just because of some stuff I don't ever use such as winks.
Plus, sometimes I can't even sign in.
I hope the team developing MSN Messenger will read this and *try* to do something about it, as they don't seem to care even a bit about users.
Bny.

Yo dude u can remove the tabs

Yea i think that when we pay for something, we should get it ad-free.
M$ got greedy, that's y i use MsgPlus, poligamy, mess patch and lots more!
Get them all at mess.be

i prefer yahoo, but more people use msn…..
im sticking with 6.2!!!!!!

I completely agree with point 2
>> at least refer to my Passport >> profile that I set up
Not only profile, you can refer to the mails I get, go through the chat sessions and find out more about me. If gmail can show relevant ads, based on emails I read, why not to accept relevant tabs in my messenger?

well im not installing it on the princeable that you seem to *need* MSIE to install it via an activeX installaion, uh f**k that, now i dont use MSIE at all now i use firefox

quote:
MSG PLUS DOES NOT HAVE SPYWARE GO SIT ON A CABBAGE
Quite right.
And also remember that Messenger 7 is a BETA!

i guess this is their e-marketing strategy…
nothing on this planet is really free…
msn messenger has a lot of advertisments because they want ppl to give them money (the dating services, etc.)

I'm sorry, but what makes you think you've paid for messenger? No one has (outside the normal Microsoft tarrif that comes with paying for any MS os..)
Just because you pay for internet access to MS, doesn't mean you've paid for messenger and more than any of the rest of us. Get a clue.
Incidently, I prefer browser windows to open in *gasp* WINDOWS. tabs just a different form of clutter and harder to navigate. All tabs do is hide the fact that you are too stupid to close a few windows when you are done with them, or do you really think you can actually do 100 things at once???

It's just plain stupid that your bitching about a BETA it's not legit for you to use it..

When we say people pay for msn, it's when they become premium members.
-Gil

I have put together a small utility to remove the advert box from MSN Messenger 6.2 and MSN Messenger 7 beta. Its at http://www.rednaxela.net

Gotta Agree with u for some points…i sometimes accidently clicks on the TAB..which is..Meh….irritating :D

msn is nice but getting a bit too complicated. I don't think having add is great, there is already add everywhere on the net and having some blinking panel on my screen just make me sick. I use messenger a lot but I am thinking of looking for an alternative, I only need to send messages, not to make my shopping or a search on the net.
Msn today bar is useless as well, it just increase the confusion to the already crowded interface.

PLEASE DELETE MSN MESSENGER 7.0 BETA BECAUSE WILL MORE VIRUS AND HACKER. PLEASE SHUT DOWN MSN MESSENGER 7.0 OK THANK

You guys are all right i agree i mean like i have msn 7.0 that i downloaded yesterday dec.21 right and i want to get back 6.2 and redownload msn+ but it wont let me! it sucks! So for all you guys that think msn 7.0 is cool its not so dont download it! it sucks

i hate it alot so some hacker delete it for good please!!!

u can remove tabs u noob so get ur facts right before u diss

Actually on the latest beta 7 you cant remove the tabs. And its like the mobile phone of IM clients, pay for ringtones, pay for wallpaper , pay for icons, yada yada, its pure steaming donkeyshite.
Stick to 6.2 for now. Its the WMP of IM clients, bubbleboy themed.
6.2 works, use it. As for GAIM, well its pure GTK shite. Trillian, fagoty tripe. Somebody write a plan and simple client for all protocols using XUL or XAML so its cross platform, and java, include File transfer, cams, pics, and make everything customisable so everybody is a winner. We need the Mozilla Firefox of IM clients, so why not use XUL as the UI markup.

fuck you

Actually, you can remove the tabs in MSN Messenger 7.0 Beta. You just have to open up regedit.exe and change the value from 0 to 1 in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MSNMessenger\DisableTabs
have fun.

your first mistake was using a microsoft product, but I guess we,re all stuck with MS until linux dumbs it down

msg plus – does enough of the clean up job for me

Yes MSN sucks, but trillian is hardly going to help as it still depends on the proprietary networks. So why not use jabber instead?

Messenger can't open some windows in browsers that aren't IE as it can only send the user's address and password through IE…So no-matter if you have changeds the default browser or not, the windows cannot be opened in any other browser except IE.

I love msn messenger.
Do you?

As I run IE with all the cookie queries turned on, and as locked down as possible (using Firefox for “regular” websurfing) it became clear that MSN are not serving the ads in MSN7 themselves – the advert box is an IE window which connects to the advertisers website to grab the ad.
So basically, anyone who pays MSN enough to get into the ad list can push content from their server to your PC. Now lets assume one of those advertisers gets targetted by a hacker (gotta be easier than attacking MSN itself) – now your MSN advert box could be downloading spyware to your PC. If MSN were serving the ads I'd be happier using a non-standard protocol I'd be happier. But while they insist on using the IE rendering engine, I'll be looking elsewhere for my IM needs.
Not Good.

ya all tlkn loadza crap if u dont like it dont use it!

mofz

Just another ignorant idiot, who does not know how his computer works and so, curses it and/or the program.
(i do aggre with you on the advt. in the IM window though)

how do you know when theres a new msn beta or new additions my friend has th enew one but i dont know how to get it please tell me!

i fink msn is mint part from sum fings jus get on wid it all ya ment 2 do is talk

Did you know that there are other programs that can replace msn messenger ?
But, even better, the program I'm refering to can also replace IRC, AIM, ICQ, Yahoo.
That is, when you log, you see ALL your chat connections on ALL the your chat server at a time WITHOUT using all the different programs.
Is that good or is that good ?
Ok, I will tell you what it is.
The program is named “Trillian”.
A free version is availlable at http://www.ceruleanstudios.com
It is called Trillian basic and it is a fully functional version with no limited amount of days.
You don't like Msn Messenger ?
Trillian is your answer.
Some of you friends use IRC, AIM, ICQ, Yahoo and messenger ?
Trillian is your answer.
Am I a representant of Trillian ? … non … I'm just so impressed with the program that I want to share my experience.
Try it! You'll see what I meen.
Larberec.

safe

um… yeah… i think chris knows enough that he knows about the tab removal.
he means, why not be able to display ONLY THE TABS YOU WANT. (as with yahoo)
either all of them, or none of them… how convienient.
as foe msn having to send passwords and addresses thruogh ie… um, doesn't msn already knows those?

how about having to be forced to have your status as 'online' to send or receive…
that's privacy for you.
or that regardless of your status being 'offline'… you are Still shown as having logged on. how is that to be considered offline?
why bother choosing a certain display pic, when everytime one logs on… there is a random one put up?
if firefox is default… Everything should open It.
no exceptions.
trillian is lovely… except for the lack of video. (granted with the paid version, one can through yahoo, but…)
i wait for the day when OSX gets put out as software only.
(yes, steve Swears it'll never happen… oh please. )
once That happens… M$ is dead. (let's hope it's a slow, painful death too. )

you can remove them just go onto google then stuff plug then configure it

I need to remove comments i put on someones space,please help.

Hey, I use Windows Live Messenger… I know it may not be great to begin with but after you use the mess.be patch (probably a violation of M$’s EULA, but i’m in Australia so i don’t really care…), its half decent because you can get rid of all the ads. Good for taking off that nudge time delay too.

Im also a user of msgpluslive.net… Nice Features…

He’s got a point with the firefox thing… they need to make WL Spaces button OPEN THE DEFAULT BROWSER!

Argh I think i’ll stick with Trillian..MSN seriously needs to change some stuff with Live Messenger!

I have this MSN in this name because my daughter couldn’t get me on my regular MSN that i uses all the time but now that she is moved i can now send thing too her so i don’t need this one. so how can i delete this MSN from my computer.Thank-you

he is haking in my email and iwant to haking at his email plz help me