http://chris.pirillo.com/terrorist-attack-in-sf/ News and Reviews! Geek, Internet Entrepreneur, Hardware Addict, Software Junkie, Book Author, Once TV Show Host, Technology Enthusiast, Shameless Self-Promoter, Tech Conference Coordinator, Early Adopter, Idea Evangelist, Tech Support Blogger, Bootstrapper, Media Personality, Technology Consultant, Thicker Quicker Picker Upper. Thu, 16 Feb 2012 23:17:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 http://chris.pirillo.com/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7083 Anonymous Mon, 24 Mar 2003 05:51:48 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2003/03/22/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7083 Let me get this straight. Free Speech = molotov cocktails, Free Speech = disrupting businesses, Free Speech = disrupting traffic, Free Speech = public/private property damage... I could go on and on, but I think that you can see where I'm going with this. IMHO you can yell, rant, and scream until you are blue in the face. As long as you don't put anyone or anything in danger. I agree that these protest are nothing less than small scale acts of terrorism. Let me get this straight. Free Speech = molotov cocktails, Free Speech = disrupting businesses, Free Speech = disrupting traffic, Free Speech = public/private property damage… I could go on and on, but I think that you can see where I'm going with this. IMHO you can yell, rant, and scream until you are blue in the face. As long as you don't put anyone or anything in danger. I agree that these protest are nothing less than small scale acts of terrorism.

]]> http://chris.pirillo.com/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7082 Anonymous Mon, 24 Mar 2003 01:51:18 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2003/03/22/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7082 Gretchen, I know that, but still I like the definition and agree to that with what I said. It is also a bunch of BS to protest and make life worse for the rest of us too. Gretchen, I know that, but still I like the definition and agree to that with what I said. It is also a bunch of BS to protest and make life worse for the rest of us too.

]]> http://chris.pirillo.com/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7081 Anonymous Sun, 23 Mar 2003 20:53:21 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2003/03/22/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7081 I agree 110%... I agree 110%…

]]> http://chris.pirillo.com/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7080 Anonymous Sun, 23 Mar 2003 20:47:20 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2003/03/22/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7080 Art, you understood my point exactly, but misunderstood my intent. I wasn't referring to John's post at all. I'm tired of hearing about destruction of property and the general "if you don't agree with me, you have no voice" attitude on both sides of the argument. Spray painting epithets on public buildings does not make the statement to me that I'm dealing with a thinking rational adult in a political debate. To me, that's the act of a juvenile deliquent who has the anonimity of a crowd to hide behind. Art, you understood my point exactly, but misunderstood my intent. I wasn't referring to John's post at all. I'm tired of hearing about destruction of property and the general “if you don't agree with me, you have no voice” attitude on both sides of the argument. Spray painting epithets on public buildings does not make the statement to me that I'm dealing with a thinking rational adult in a political debate. To me, that's the act of a juvenile deliquent who has the anonimity of a crowd to hide behind.

]]> http://chris.pirillo.com/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7079 Anonymous Sun, 23 Mar 2003 20:27:09 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2003/03/22/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7079 Kat, Barring violence or threatened violence or illegal acts on the part of peace protesters, they are allowed a voice. I don't agree with them, but I don't feel that they should be deported because they don't support the war. It appeared to me as if John was suggesting quelling the voice of all protesters. Violent activists need to see jail cells. Kat,
Barring violence or threatened violence or illegal acts on the part of peace protesters, they are allowed a voice. I don't agree with them, but I don't feel that they should be deported because they don't support the war. It appeared to me as if John was suggesting quelling the voice of all protesters. Violent activists need to see jail cells.

]]> http://chris.pirillo.com/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7078 Anonymous Sun, 23 Mar 2003 19:00:09 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2003/03/22/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7078 The right to free speech and freedom of assembly do not allow the right to endanger the welfare of your community; i.e. the cliche of yelling "Fire!" in a crowded movie theater. It also doesn't allow for defamation of character. We've lost our fundamental knowledge of respect for society as a whole in the belief that the 1st Amendment allows us to be as rude and dangerous as we choose to be and can hide behind the semantics we choose to define free speech. The right to free speech and freedom of assembly do not allow the right to endanger the welfare of your community; i.e. the cliche of yelling “Fire!” in a crowded movie theater. It also doesn't allow for defamation of character. We've lost our fundamental knowledge of respect for society as a whole in the belief that the 1st Amendment allows us to be as rude and dangerous as we choose to be and can hide behind the semantics we choose to define free speech.

]]> http://chris.pirillo.com/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7077 Anonymous Sun, 23 Mar 2003 18:57:30 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2003/03/22/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7077 Manuel, Chris is talking about the protestors in SF, not the US going into Iraq. Manuel, Chris is talking about the protestors in SF, not the US going into Iraq.

]]> http://chris.pirillo.com/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7076 Anonymous Sun, 23 Mar 2003 08:50:22 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2003/03/22/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7076 Blocking emergency vehicles and stopping people trying to get to work.... now that's class. Smack permission granted. Make it so. Blocking emergency vehicles and stopping people trying to get to work…. now that's class.
Smack permission granted. Make it so.

]]> http://chris.pirillo.com/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7075 Anonymous Sun, 23 Mar 2003 08:10:46 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2003/03/22/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7075 Thats exatly how I feel! Here we are calling everyone else terrorists, but we ARE the terrorsits to many other countries including Iraq. That's just my opinion, but I also think that we should not be protesting becasue President Bush and his political practices will not listen. Thats exatly how I feel! Here we are calling everyone else terrorists, but we ARE the terrorsits to many other countries including Iraq.
That's just my opinion, but I also think that we should not be protesting becasue President Bush and his political practices will not listen.

]]> http://chris.pirillo.com/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7074 Anonymous Sun, 23 Mar 2003 03:07:11 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2003/03/22/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7074 Deported for what? Exercising their right to free speech? Deported for what? Exercising their right to free speech?

]]> http://chris.pirillo.com/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7073 Anonymous Sun, 23 Mar 2003 02:46:21 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2003/03/22/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7073 Can any one tell me if any of the protesters were holding a US flag in the US .i only saw a blue banner.i wonder if anybody whom is protesting know the views of most of the people organizing the protests,those persons should be deported Can any one tell me if any of the protesters were holding a US flag in the US .i only saw a blue banner.i wonder if anybody whom is protesting know the views of most of the people organizing the protests,those persons should be deported

]]> http://chris.pirillo.com/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7072 Anonymous Sat, 22 Mar 2003 23:48:14 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2003/03/22/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7072 I wonder what all the protestors against the Iraq war will say if it turns out that the majority of Iraq citizens are happy that the U.S. got rid of their oppressive dictator? Certainly the majority of Germans were glad the U.S. liberated them from Hitler. BTW, compare the number of innocent civilians killed by U.S. bombing of German and Japanese cities (hundreds of thousands) with the number that can reasonably be expected to be killed by U.S. bombing of Bagdad (hundreds?). I wonder what all the protestors against the Iraq war will say if it turns out that the majority of Iraq citizens are happy that the U.S. got rid of their oppressive dictator? Certainly the majority of Germans were glad the U.S. liberated them from Hitler.
BTW, compare the number of innocent civilians killed by U.S. bombing of German and Japanese cities (hundreds of thousands) with the number that can reasonably be expected to be killed by U.S. bombing of Bagdad (hundreds?).

]]> http://chris.pirillo.com/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7071 Anonymous Sat, 22 Mar 2003 22:01:57 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2003/03/22/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7071 Peace protesters in SF with the makings of Molotov cocktails or blocking ambulance movement are: a) Not being very peaceful b)Not protesting to the correct people (i.e. the ones who said "Go" to the war). The San Fran police, people, or board didn't start this war. Peace protesters in SF with the makings of Molotov cocktails or blocking ambulance movement are:
a) Not being very peaceful
b)Not protesting to the correct people (i.e. the ones who said “Go” to the war). The San Fran police, people, or board didn't start this war.

]]> http://chris.pirillo.com/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7070 Anonymous Sat, 22 Mar 2003 21:20:38 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2003/03/22/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7070 Since when is using your right to free speech wrong? I would have to agree with Steven's point, that definition seems to apply more suitably to the US invaders in Iraq, not the people protesting here. I am not sure how things work in SF, but here in Winnipeg we simply inform our government by regular protests at their places of power that we disagree. I find it disgusting to read the many who think that once your opinion has been received and discarded, one should shut the f**k up, sit down, and watch it unfold. that is being a coward and lying down for those who feel they are right and everyone else has no right to speak. I believe it was Chris who I first heard say 'attack the idea, not the people'. Since when is using your right to free speech wrong? I would have to agree with Steven's point, that definition seems to apply more suitably to the US invaders in Iraq, not the people protesting here. I am not sure how things work in SF, but here in Winnipeg we simply inform our government by regular protests at their places of power that we disagree.
I find it disgusting to read the many who think that once your opinion has been received and discarded, one should shut the f**k up, sit down, and watch it unfold. that is being a coward and lying down for those who feel they are right and everyone else has no right to speak. I believe it was Chris who I first heard say 'attack the idea, not the people'.

]]> http://chris.pirillo.com/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7069 Anonymous Sat, 22 Mar 2003 21:12:41 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2003/03/22/terrorist-attack-in-sf/#comment-7069 (not meant to be a troll) That's a pretty broad definition, actually, since using it you could say there's a lot of "terrorism" coming from DC, too. About protesting during a war: well, look at what happened with Vietnam. And look at all we got from during-war protests - and I'm not just talking about classic, good music. (not meant to be a troll)
That's a pretty broad definition, actually, since using it you could say there's a lot of “terrorism” coming from DC, too.
About protesting during a war: well, look at what happened with Vietnam. And look at all we got from during-war protests – and I'm not just talking about classic, good music.

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