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href="http://www.allofme.com">AllofMe</a>.</p><blockquote><p>Automatically create a Personal Timeline of your life from any digital assets you have, such as pictures, videos, blogs, documents, or any Internet page.</p></blockquote><p>You can view sample timelines, or even watch a teaser. There are tons of different categories to look through. You know what I did. I entered my name, and was shocked to see how much of my information was pulled it. It began picking up parts of my life from 1999. There is a ton of content, starting in about 2004. Using AllofMe, it will be easier for me to keep track of when certain things happened in my life.</p><p>It does image searches, checks through things like YouTube and Twitter, and even looks at Windows Live. If you zoom way in, it&#8217;ll show you by day, month or even year what you&#8217;ve been up to. You can even filter your timeline to only include certain aspects.</p><p>Thanks to the creators, we have 250 Beta codes! The <a
href="http://www.allofme.com/P/Pirillo">first 250 of you to sign up for AllofMe using this link</a> will enjoy full privileges!</p><p>This is not only a lot of fun, it&#8217;s also something you can hold onto. You just never know when you might want or need to look back on your life, and the things you&#8217;ve done.</p><p><ul><li
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href="http://www.allofme.com/P/Pirillo">first 250 of you to sign up for AllofMe using this link</a> will enjoy full privileges!</p><p>This is not only a lot of fun, it&#8217;s also something you can hold onto. You just never know when you might want or need to look back on your life, and the things you&#8217;ve done.</p><p><ul><li
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isPermaLink="false">http://chris.pirillo.com/?p=7345</guid> <description><![CDATA[<p><a
href="http://chris.pirillo.com/what-is-plurk/">What is Plurk?</a> is a post from <a
href="http://chris.pirillo.com">Chris Pirillo</a></p><p>I asked my friends to explain to me what the hell <a
href="http://plurk.com/user/l0ckergn0me">Plurk</a> was all about. Their answers were quite telling:</p><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-a464c974-c2d0-460c-968e-39e95e141cee"> It&#39;s like Twitter for jr. high kids. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/drsetebos" uid="c22e65f4-1147-11dd-9239-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Nathaniel Payne</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-f7febeeb-35e2-4d15-85ef-35b5fc05e3f7"> it&#39;s like twitter, w/ better attachment functionality, on a horizontal time-line thus easier to review, but not mobile friendly. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/needcaffeine" uid="e793a344-e515-11dc-9aa7-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">clarke</a></div><div
class="friend-comment friendcomment" id="cmt-db2d7f3b-809c-476f-8566-40e1718f63d6"> I agree, it&#39;s silly &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/coopdog" uid="4b9038fc-e567-11dc-8414-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Ryan</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-eb6574c5-11e3-4435-ad71-590d081c5f1f"> -100 karma for Nathaniel! :-) &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/charris1980" uid="b2835b42-f1ca-11dc-b138-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Chris Harris</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-68c76ea3-e1da-4a73-a1c1-ecb8e3708a6b"> Its Twitter with the ability to have threaded conversations. The horizontal timeline is hard to get used to, but the mobile app is vertical. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/miketempleton" uid="ed03655a-28d9-11dd-b10e-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Mike Templeton</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-05bf40d4-7f66-42c5-ba8d-9b63510f86dd"> Like everyone said it&#39;s like Twitter with an Ajax on crack interface that is not impressive and something that I can&#39;t see lasting beyond the initial buzz it got because of Twitter&#39;s instability. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/wizardelite" uid="5dc454d4-eec4-11dc-b54c-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Chris Rodgers</a></div><div
class="friend-comment friendcomment" id="cmt-9ee1aa6e-924d-47d6-b421-fce40d59c2fc"> twitter for kids or painkiller for heavily depressed tweeple &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/dobata" uid="bc62f4b3-de1e-4d20-8bd0-56a4bb957e8d" class="friend-friend l_popup">Dobromir Hadzhiev</a></div><div
class="friend-comment friendcomment" id="cmt-a3b9ff70-6e40-4eb7-8e7a-a558faa3511e"> move moves the wrong way &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/marccanter" uid="e354a8fc-39d2-11dd-9d6f-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Marc Canter</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-e6f52d28-872a-4ca4-973d-39ff50280ac7"> have you ever played defender? <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defender_(arcade_game" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D&#8230;</a>) its twitter with a defender interface :) &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/scottcropper" uid="f91b1695-509b-4d2e-9dd5-7c9a6ac22aa6" class="friend-friend l_popup">Scott Cropper</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-b4d92f73-6d9f-4872-ac32-4a44c56cc7ae"> -1000 karma for Chris Harris! (which will be rendered as a severe beating at the next dmtweetup) ;-) &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/drsetebos" uid="c22e65f4-1147-11dd-9239-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Nathaniel Payne</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-ceedd163-755a-41bb-bc17-3301548971a8"> @clarke, <a
href="http://www.plurk.com/m" rel="nofollow">http://www.plurk.com/m</a> &lt;- mobile version ;-) &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/ajbatac" uid="0feec200-0cd2-4a9e-8db2-fed45085ab77" class="friend-friend l_popup">AJ Batac</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-79f52e89-268d-442a-b911-8378b5dc897b"> its like an unnecessarily complicated version of twitter that nobody really uses &#8211; so maybe it&#39;s more like pownce :) &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/jbruin" uid="f700849c-0efe-11dd-a773-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Jennifer Van Grove</a> via <a
class="friend-via" href="http://www.twhirl.org/" rel="nofollow">twhirl</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-51529b55-5d57-40db-9d71-68f4099799bc"> it&#39;s a chat-room where you can post with ping.fm ;) &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/web2marketing" uid="2d63639e-25af-11dd-9ea9-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Dieter Schwarz</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-e280a56c-8c13-408d-8890-885a32357126"> It is a more complicated Twitter &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/jaredradosevich" uid="15108b18-3334-11dd-aede-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Jared Radosevich</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-249983de-3b10-4b86-a64f-80995856dc69"> It&#39;s a dog without a head. i.e. a website without usability &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/directeur" uid="5fb7d79d-fc75-4ea3-a56a-5dc4f61de43f" class="friend-friend l_popup">directeur</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-59ae0ef5-a9dd-46fe-a6c6-a5f7ab97bf1c"> <a
href="http://www.geekfridge.com/?p=190" rel="nofollow">http://www.geekfridge.com/?p=1&#8230;</a> &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/starman" uid="b25fd810-e4ab-11dc-b594-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Starman</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-271aedcc-a670-4f73-87e7-fdf975ac2f56"> As long as Twitter remains unstable, Plurk is the most Twitter-like option out there that also happens to be new kid on the block. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/greatscott" uid="5581809c-2cec-11dd-9e25-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Scott Kitchen</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-8b3a5875-44a6-47c5-9031-40cae6afccf2"> It&#39;s essentially Twitter, but the conversations stay self-contained and don&#39;t send out a lot of noise to the timeline. There are toys like karma, but most people ignore them. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/starman" uid="b25fd810-e4ab-11dc-b594-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Starman</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-487494d7-8257-4f79-a56e-7c88b95882fe"> Oh, yeah, and it works :D &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/starman" uid="b25fd810-e4ab-11dc-b594-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Starman</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-5a9e95a4-1bc4-42a4-807a-7b26ccc17626"> <a
href="http://banannie.com/blog/2008/06/27/how-i-plurk/" rel="nofollow">http://banannie.com/blog/2008/&#8230;</a> &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/starman" uid="b25fd810-e4ab-11dc-b594-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Starman</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-b01f9503-c92f-4777-8332-60d893ca7b13"> @Nathaniel nooo, -1000 makes all my plurk smilies disappear. you bastard!! &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/charris1980" uid="b2835b42-f1ca-11dc-b138-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Chris Harris</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-56ddfc58-a208-4397-938c-05f1b965ea65"> Twitter is to statements as Plurk is to conversations. Even more than twitter, Plurk requires adding friends and interacting with them. This interaction is the reason so many people are falling in love with it. If you want to know more, feel free to send me a plurk: <a
href="http://www.plurk.com/user/Teeg" rel="nofollow">http://www.plurk.com/user/Teeg</a> &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/teeg" uid="cf8b0890-114e-11dd-9239-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Teeg</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-7cb92e75-821b-4a65-8b3d-4a8088d69892"> tried to use it for a few weeks, but the big problem is that they simply don&#39;t have the user base. you end up talking to the same 2 people and after a while, everybody is bored and goes back to twitter (if it&#39;s up). &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/markschulz" uid="13c9dd2e-1a5a-11dd-af5d-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Mark Schulz</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-d23e1b25-5494-4053-bd6c-0719b08bbd54"> Pluk is really twitter with consolidated replies and tweets on a timeline instead of in a stream. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/thepunk" uid="2437ee0c-f454-11dc-b674-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Greg Hollingsworth</a> via <a
class="friend-via" href="http://www.twhirl.org/" rel="nofollow">twhirl</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-97e3d235-ab8c-4fff-acaf-f55f6bf60ac8"> Right now I have over 300 friends on there, only 1 or 2 of them are teenagers, many are computer geeks of one kind of another, a lot are experts in their fields. In the 3 weeks or so that I&#39;ve been on Plurk, I&#39;ve already learned more and received more answers to my questions than I ever did on Twitter, even though I actually have more friends listed on Twitter. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/teeg" uid="cf8b0890-114e-11dd-9239-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Teeg</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-e3e6d6b0-0e2a-43ae-8f58-d7401c6e53fa"> Plurk is like wurk. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/openallnight" uid="c67b65b8-34aa-11dd-ae21-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">OpenAllNight</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-77ca1ba2-3158-476b-a96e-8da53c229937"> Plurk is like Twitter but with participation and interesting conversation. To generalize all Plurk users as &quot;high school kids&quot; is very misleading. If you get on, conversate and make friends you&#39;ll see what the buzz is all about. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/patrickbritton" uid="d8b1a26a-3063-11dd-bbc5-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Patrick Britton</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-7c4cb30a-79bc-46a8-ab32-3cfa1417e75f"> it&#39;s Twitter with conversation that you can actually follow. It&#39;s got good search functions and none of my Plurk friends are teenagers &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/sharonhh" uid="f7e13f14-f1e4-11dc-b879-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Sharon Hurley Hall</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-4481b6e3-4c39-4b0a-97cb-543a2ee4413d"> It&#39;s like Twitter with more conversations, more community, more responsiveness from founders, and less egos and snarkiness. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/mackcollier" uid="4a363af8-e61e-11dc-a904-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Mack Collier</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-ca939c26-3ab8-4f78-9d05-98fcabcdeb1a"> &quot;its like an unnecessarily complicated version of twitter that nobody really uses &#8211; so maybe it&#39;s more like pownce :)&quot; Has 155 friends on Plurk, been there maybe a week. Twitter, 127 followers and I&#39;ve been there for several months. Not to mention Plurkers actually talk to you, Twitterers just blab on about their own self indulged lives. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/patrickbritton" uid="d8b1a26a-3063-11dd-bbc5-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Patrick Britton</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-b122a1bd-7ee1-4fd1-9557-3b068f62c823"> Plurk is amazing. Many of the comments here are naive and misleading, not to mention ignorant. If you like community interaction Plurk is an awesome choice. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/konstantino" uid="1505c568-2b7b-11dd-ab90-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Konstantino</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-c219ee2f-009e-477b-86cc-dc522d9a830c"> It&#39;s a faster, horizontal pownce with a rating system that&#39;s very stable. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/nexeus" uid="9f4cb264-42f4-11dd-a201-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Nexeus Fatale</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-4c29c52c-87b8-4801-bd14-b731fdff7a5b"> No &quot;fail whale.&quot; :D &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/patrickbritton" uid="d8b1a26a-3063-11dd-bbc5-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Patrick Britton</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-f72ac1c5-e91e-46cd-b2a9-1ef7ab4a4b4e"> It&#39;s more fun at times. I tend to get more responses. but it&#39;s only cause people are trying to build karma. timeline is an interesting interface that allows a little better view of when in time everything is happening. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/joshmings" uid="a1ecc1b2-f5b5-11dc-93b7-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Josh</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-320d9c39-9161-431d-8572-7961aec90368"> Josh, they&#39;re helping you build karma when they respond. They build karma by getting responses on their posts. A neat idea that drives conversation levels up. :) &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/teeg" uid="cf8b0890-114e-11dd-9239-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Teeg</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-6753cbdb-2843-4f55-b1e2-8f3d967b94d0"> Twitter on crack. or meth. or your mind enhancing chemical of choice. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/janechin" uid="1236be7a-4483-11dd-8d90-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">jane</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-549dd4d7-2b0d-4a22-81ff-70381344339f"> I agree with Konstantino &quot;Many of the comments here are naive and misleading, not to mention ignorant&quot; For one, my teenage years are long forgotten and my plurk friends are adults with adult conversations&#8230; I LOVE Twitter for the sharing of great business information &amp; links but you cannot have nor follow a conversation there. On Plurk you can create or follow conversations from beginning to end if you want, &amp; some conversations are long we discuss all sorts of topics personal and or business, politics.. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/lindazimmer" uid="33344894-26bb-11dd-b091-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Linda Zimmer</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-92dec104-2f96-43e9-a645-28a29da743ef"> silly chat room with emoticons &amp; reaching for a level of *karma* gets ya better emoticons. that being said, there have been good discussions there :) &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/barbarakb" uid="f124bef2-eebb-11dc-b42c-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Barbara K. Baker</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-8d53b274-ca7a-4d31-a3d5-118ce929dae6"> oh, and FriendFeed is still better. just not as&#8230; silly! &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/barbarakb" uid="f124bef2-eebb-11dc-b42c-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Barbara K. Baker</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-71675a32-0cd6-416b-be5b-1cd47837fab1"> plurk confuses me, thus I keep playing along. sorry I can&#39;t explain it, but that which doesn&#39;t kill us makes us stronger. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/pegkd" uid="01017098-388d-11dd-9a5d-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Peggie Arvidson</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-e563d051-0b50-443b-940e-ab42f747fdee"> Plurk is simply public, threaded chats displayed on a timeline. It&#39;s not like twitter except that it limits posts to 140 like twitter. Think IRC but more organized. Think IM but publicized. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/nicerobot" uid="f0542f06-fb6a-11dc-bfed-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">nicerobot</a></div><p>I tried to like it &#8211; and maybe it&#8217;ll grow on me &#8211; but for the time being, it will remain a sideline in the grid that is my social graph.<ul
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href="http://chris.pirillo.com/what-is-plurk/">What is Plurk?</a> is a post from <a
href="http://chris.pirillo.com">Chris Pirillo</a></p><p>I asked my friends to explain to me what the hell <a
href="http://plurk.com/user/l0ckergn0me">Plurk</a> was all about. Their answers were quite telling:</p><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-a464c974-c2d0-460c-968e-39e95e141cee"> It&#39;s like Twitter for jr. high kids. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/drsetebos" uid="c22e65f4-1147-11dd-9239-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Nathaniel Payne</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-f7febeeb-35e2-4d15-85ef-35b5fc05e3f7"> it&#39;s like twitter, w/ better attachment functionality, on a horizontal time-line thus easier to review, but not mobile friendly. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/needcaffeine" uid="e793a344-e515-11dc-9aa7-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">clarke</a></div><div
class="friend-comment friendcomment" id="cmt-db2d7f3b-809c-476f-8566-40e1718f63d6"> I agree, it&#39;s silly &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/coopdog" uid="4b9038fc-e567-11dc-8414-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Ryan</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-eb6574c5-11e3-4435-ad71-590d081c5f1f"> -100 karma for Nathaniel! :-) &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/charris1980" uid="b2835b42-f1ca-11dc-b138-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Chris Harris</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-68c76ea3-e1da-4a73-a1c1-ecb8e3708a6b"> Its Twitter with the ability to have threaded conversations. The horizontal timeline is hard to get used to, but the mobile app is vertical. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/miketempleton" uid="ed03655a-28d9-11dd-b10e-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Mike Templeton</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-05bf40d4-7f66-42c5-ba8d-9b63510f86dd"> Like everyone said it&#39;s like Twitter with an Ajax on crack interface that is not impressive and something that I can&#39;t see lasting beyond the initial buzz it got because of Twitter&#39;s instability. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/wizardelite" uid="5dc454d4-eec4-11dc-b54c-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Chris Rodgers</a></div><div
class="friend-comment friendcomment" id="cmt-9ee1aa6e-924d-47d6-b421-fce40d59c2fc"> twitter for kids or painkiller for heavily depressed tweeple &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/dobata" uid="bc62f4b3-de1e-4d20-8bd0-56a4bb957e8d" class="friend-friend l_popup">Dobromir Hadzhiev</a></div><div
class="friend-comment friendcomment" id="cmt-a3b9ff70-6e40-4eb7-8e7a-a558faa3511e"> move moves the wrong way &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/marccanter" uid="e354a8fc-39d2-11dd-9d6f-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Marc Canter</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-e6f52d28-872a-4ca4-973d-39ff50280ac7"> have you ever played defender? <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defender_(arcade_game" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D&#8230;</a>) its twitter with a defender interface :) &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/scottcropper" uid="f91b1695-509b-4d2e-9dd5-7c9a6ac22aa6" class="friend-friend l_popup">Scott Cropper</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-b4d92f73-6d9f-4872-ac32-4a44c56cc7ae"> -1000 karma for Chris Harris! (which will be rendered as a severe beating at the next dmtweetup) ;-) &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/drsetebos" uid="c22e65f4-1147-11dd-9239-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Nathaniel Payne</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-ceedd163-755a-41bb-bc17-3301548971a8"> @clarke, <a
href="http://www.plurk.com/m" rel="nofollow">http://www.plurk.com/m</a> &lt;- mobile version ;-) &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/ajbatac" uid="0feec200-0cd2-4a9e-8db2-fed45085ab77" class="friend-friend l_popup">AJ Batac</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-79f52e89-268d-442a-b911-8378b5dc897b"> its like an unnecessarily complicated version of twitter that nobody really uses &#8211; so maybe it&#39;s more like pownce :) &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/jbruin" uid="f700849c-0efe-11dd-a773-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Jennifer Van Grove</a> via <a
class="friend-via" href="http://www.twhirl.org/" rel="nofollow">twhirl</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-51529b55-5d57-40db-9d71-68f4099799bc"> it&#39;s a chat-room where you can post with ping.fm ;) &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/web2marketing" uid="2d63639e-25af-11dd-9ea9-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Dieter Schwarz</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-e280a56c-8c13-408d-8890-885a32357126"> It is a more complicated Twitter &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/jaredradosevich" uid="15108b18-3334-11dd-aede-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Jared Radosevich</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-249983de-3b10-4b86-a64f-80995856dc69"> It&#39;s a dog without a head. i.e. a website without usability &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/directeur" uid="5fb7d79d-fc75-4ea3-a56a-5dc4f61de43f" class="friend-friend l_popup">directeur</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-59ae0ef5-a9dd-46fe-a6c6-a5f7ab97bf1c"> <a
href="http://www.geekfridge.com/?p=190" rel="nofollow">http://www.geekfridge.com/?p=1&#8230;</a> &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/starman" uid="b25fd810-e4ab-11dc-b594-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Starman</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-271aedcc-a670-4f73-87e7-fdf975ac2f56"> As long as Twitter remains unstable, Plurk is the most Twitter-like option out there that also happens to be new kid on the block. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/greatscott" uid="5581809c-2cec-11dd-9e25-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Scott Kitchen</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-8b3a5875-44a6-47c5-9031-40cae6afccf2"> It&#39;s essentially Twitter, but the conversations stay self-contained and don&#39;t send out a lot of noise to the timeline. There are toys like karma, but most people ignore them. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/starman" uid="b25fd810-e4ab-11dc-b594-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Starman</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-487494d7-8257-4f79-a56e-7c88b95882fe"> Oh, yeah, and it works :D &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/starman" uid="b25fd810-e4ab-11dc-b594-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Starman</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-5a9e95a4-1bc4-42a4-807a-7b26ccc17626"> <a
href="http://banannie.com/blog/2008/06/27/how-i-plurk/" rel="nofollow">http://banannie.com/blog/2008/&#8230;</a> &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/starman" uid="b25fd810-e4ab-11dc-b594-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Starman</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-b01f9503-c92f-4777-8332-60d893ca7b13"> @Nathaniel nooo, -1000 makes all my plurk smilies disappear. you bastard!! &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/charris1980" uid="b2835b42-f1ca-11dc-b138-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Chris Harris</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-56ddfc58-a208-4397-938c-05f1b965ea65"> Twitter is to statements as Plurk is to conversations. Even more than twitter, Plurk requires adding friends and interacting with them. This interaction is the reason so many people are falling in love with it. If you want to know more, feel free to send me a plurk: <a
href="http://www.plurk.com/user/Teeg" rel="nofollow">http://www.plurk.com/user/Teeg</a> &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/teeg" uid="cf8b0890-114e-11dd-9239-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Teeg</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-7cb92e75-821b-4a65-8b3d-4a8088d69892"> tried to use it for a few weeks, but the big problem is that they simply don&#39;t have the user base. you end up talking to the same 2 people and after a while, everybody is bored and goes back to twitter (if it&#39;s up). &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/markschulz" uid="13c9dd2e-1a5a-11dd-af5d-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Mark Schulz</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-d23e1b25-5494-4053-bd6c-0719b08bbd54"> Pluk is really twitter with consolidated replies and tweets on a timeline instead of in a stream. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/thepunk" uid="2437ee0c-f454-11dc-b674-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Greg Hollingsworth</a> via <a
class="friend-via" href="http://www.twhirl.org/" rel="nofollow">twhirl</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-97e3d235-ab8c-4fff-acaf-f55f6bf60ac8"> Right now I have over 300 friends on there, only 1 or 2 of them are teenagers, many are computer geeks of one kind of another, a lot are experts in their fields. In the 3 weeks or so that I&#39;ve been on Plurk, I&#39;ve already learned more and received more answers to my questions than I ever did on Twitter, even though I actually have more friends listed on Twitter. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/teeg" uid="cf8b0890-114e-11dd-9239-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Teeg</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-e3e6d6b0-0e2a-43ae-8f58-d7401c6e53fa"> Plurk is like wurk. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/openallnight" uid="c67b65b8-34aa-11dd-ae21-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">OpenAllNight</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-77ca1ba2-3158-476b-a96e-8da53c229937"> Plurk is like Twitter but with participation and interesting conversation. To generalize all Plurk users as &quot;high school kids&quot; is very misleading. If you get on, conversate and make friends you&#39;ll see what the buzz is all about. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/patrickbritton" uid="d8b1a26a-3063-11dd-bbc5-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Patrick Britton</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-7c4cb30a-79bc-46a8-ab32-3cfa1417e75f"> it&#39;s Twitter with conversation that you can actually follow. It&#39;s got good search functions and none of my Plurk friends are teenagers &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/sharonhh" uid="f7e13f14-f1e4-11dc-b879-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Sharon Hurley Hall</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-4481b6e3-4c39-4b0a-97cb-543a2ee4413d"> It&#39;s like Twitter with more conversations, more community, more responsiveness from founders, and less egos and snarkiness. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/mackcollier" uid="4a363af8-e61e-11dc-a904-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Mack Collier</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-ca939c26-3ab8-4f78-9d05-98fcabcdeb1a"> &quot;its like an unnecessarily complicated version of twitter that nobody really uses &#8211; so maybe it&#39;s more like pownce :)&quot; Has 155 friends on Plurk, been there maybe a week. Twitter, 127 followers and I&#39;ve been there for several months. Not to mention Plurkers actually talk to you, Twitterers just blab on about their own self indulged lives. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/patrickbritton" uid="d8b1a26a-3063-11dd-bbc5-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Patrick Britton</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-b122a1bd-7ee1-4fd1-9557-3b068f62c823"> Plurk is amazing. Many of the comments here are naive and misleading, not to mention ignorant. If you like community interaction Plurk is an awesome choice. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/konstantino" uid="1505c568-2b7b-11dd-ab90-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Konstantino</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-c219ee2f-009e-477b-86cc-dc522d9a830c"> It&#39;s a faster, horizontal pownce with a rating system that&#39;s very stable. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/nexeus" uid="9f4cb264-42f4-11dd-a201-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Nexeus Fatale</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-4c29c52c-87b8-4801-bd14-b731fdff7a5b"> No &quot;fail whale.&quot; :D &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/patrickbritton" uid="d8b1a26a-3063-11dd-bbc5-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Patrick Britton</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-f72ac1c5-e91e-46cd-b2a9-1ef7ab4a4b4e"> It&#39;s more fun at times. I tend to get more responses. but it&#39;s only cause people are trying to build karma. timeline is an interesting interface that allows a little better view of when in time everything is happening. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/joshmings" uid="a1ecc1b2-f5b5-11dc-93b7-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Josh</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-320d9c39-9161-431d-8572-7961aec90368"> Josh, they&#39;re helping you build karma when they respond. They build karma by getting responses on their posts. A neat idea that drives conversation levels up. :) &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/teeg" uid="cf8b0890-114e-11dd-9239-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Teeg</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-6753cbdb-2843-4f55-b1e2-8f3d967b94d0"> Twitter on crack. or meth. or your mind enhancing chemical of choice. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/janechin" uid="1236be7a-4483-11dd-8d90-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">jane</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-549dd4d7-2b0d-4a22-81ff-70381344339f"> I agree with Konstantino &quot;Many of the comments here are naive and misleading, not to mention ignorant&quot; For one, my teenage years are long forgotten and my plurk friends are adults with adult conversations&#8230; I LOVE Twitter for the sharing of great business information &amp; links but you cannot have nor follow a conversation there. On Plurk you can create or follow conversations from beginning to end if you want, &amp; some conversations are long we discuss all sorts of topics personal and or business, politics.. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/lindazimmer" uid="33344894-26bb-11dd-b091-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Linda Zimmer</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-92dec104-2f96-43e9-a645-28a29da743ef"> silly chat room with emoticons &amp; reaching for a level of *karma* gets ya better emoticons. that being said, there have been good discussions there :) &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/barbarakb" uid="f124bef2-eebb-11dc-b42c-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Barbara K. Baker</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-8d53b274-ca7a-4d31-a3d5-118ce929dae6"> oh, and FriendFeed is still better. just not as&#8230; silly! &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/barbarakb" uid="f124bef2-eebb-11dc-b42c-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Barbara K. Baker</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-71675a32-0cd6-416b-be5b-1cd47837fab1"> plurk confuses me, thus I keep playing along. sorry I can&#39;t explain it, but that which doesn&#39;t kill us makes us stronger. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/pegkd" uid="01017098-388d-11dd-9a5d-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">Peggie Arvidson</a></div><div
class="friend-comment" id="cmt-e563d051-0b50-443b-940e-ab42f747fdee"> Plurk is simply public, threaded chats displayed on a timeline. It&#39;s not like twitter except that it limits posts to 140 like twitter. Think IRC but more organized. Think IM but publicized. &#8211; <a
href="http://friendfeed.com/nicerobot" uid="f0542f06-fb6a-11dc-bfed-003048343a40" class="friend-friend l_popup">nicerobot</a></div><p>I tried to like it &#8211; and maybe it&#8217;ll grow on me &#8211; but for the time being, it will remain a sideline in the grid that is my social graph.<ul
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