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		<description><![CDATA[<p><p><a href="http://chris.pirillo.com/paypal-fraud-protection/">PayPal Fraud Protection</a></p><p>James Scott just caught the eBay Fraud Victim tale I shared a few weeks back: I have witnessed firsthand PayPal taking $427 from a seller&#8217;s bank (checking) account and refunding just $200 to the buyer, stating to the buyer that the $200 was all that could be recovered. I was the buyer. If the seller [...]</p></p><p><a href="http://chris.pirillo.com/paypal-fraud-protection/">PayPal Fraud Protection</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://chris.pirillo.com/paypal-fraud-protection/">PayPal Fraud Protection</a></p><p>James Scott just caught the <a href="http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/07/02/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/">eBay Fraud Victim</a> tale I shared a few weeks back:</p>
<blockquote><p>I have witnessed firsthand PayPal taking $427 from a seller&#8217;s bank (checking) account and refunding just $200 to the buyer, stating to the buyer that the $200 was all that could be recovered. I was the buyer. If the seller and I hadn&#8217;t been communicating, neither of us would have known what was going on. In this particular case, a claim was filed (by me &#8212; the seller hadn&#8217;t communicated and I was worried about not getting what I&#8217;d paid for); however, I *did* eventually get what I&#8217;d paid for, but not until after PayPal had processed the claim. I got $200 in my account; the seller told me she&#8217;d had $427 taken from her checking account. </p>
<p>Only through several phone calls to PayPal representatives was this situation resolved. And only because the seller/buyer were communicating were we able to figure out that we were being told two different stories and that there was $227 sitting somewhere in-between the buyer and the seller when it should not have been. </p>
<p>How many times does PayPal tell a buyer that they&#8217;d been able to recover &#8220;just $200&#8243; but had actually been able to obtain/retrieve more from the seller? Not all of these scenarios are genuine fraud &#8212; in my particular instance, this was a situation caused by a non-communicative seller (who happened to be moving and in-between Internet connections). We figured it out. Even if it is genuine fraud, perhaps PayPal merely froze the seller&#8217;s account and any money in it. If there&#8217;s $800 in the account, do they still send the same message saying they&#8217;d only been able to recover $200? </p>
<p>Another bad PayPal scenario. If a seller mails something to a buyer that does not have a tracking # and the buyer files a claim saying they did not receive the item, then the seller is required to provide a tracking # or PayPal will automatically resolve the dispute in the buyer&#8217;s favor. Whether or not the buyer actually made the claim in good faith. In other words, PayPal&#8217;s &#8220;claims&#8221; process enables fraud. They don&#8217;t ask, they don&#8217;t require, they don&#8217;t care whether or not the buyer is making the claim in good faith. Lesson for sellers I guess is to always provide a tracking #, but still &#8212; who knows how many buyers have figured this out and make false claims. Given the volume of transactions and human nature in general, it has to happen. </p>
<p>My piece of advice for any transaction online that&#8217;s gone bad &#8212; the buyer and seller need to communicate with each other (assuming this is possible). They need to overcome any emotional issues related to shipping something in good faith and/or not receiving an item within a reasonable window of time. They need to both communicate to each other about how PayPal resolves that claim because there&#8217;s evidence to suggest that PayPal isn&#8217;t telling both sides the same story. I for one would be curious to know if this is a wide-spread practice. If the honest buyers and sellers can work together to see into both sides of the PayPal mess, perhaps some transparency can be achieved. </p>
<p>After seeing these two scenarios play out, I don&#8217;t believe PayPal is a trustworthy broker and they shouldn&#8217;t be handling anybody&#8217;s money. But that&#8217;s just me :) </p></blockquote>
<p>Well, the good news is that at least Google and Amazon are starting to play in the world of micropayments. Not sure they&#8217;ll ever replace PayPal outright, but at least consumers have more than one option (even if those options may not be as convenient).  </p>
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