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So, I’m the Conspiracy Theorist, eh?

Even when evidence is planted directly beneath your nose from a well-known (albeit, heavily unbalanced) resource, you still want to believe that such a thing could never have happened in the first place. Certainly, prominent Americans would never have supported Hitler - right? I guess the Associated Press article titled Bush’s Grandfather Directed Bank Tied to Man Who Funded Hitler is a total fabrication, even with documents supporting the assertion that some of us have been asserting for some time now?

Prescott Bush was one of seven directors of Union Banking Corp., a New York investment bank owned by a bank controlled by the Thyssen family, according to recently declassified National Archives documents reviewed by The Associated Press. Fritz Thyssen was an early financial supporter of Hitler, whose Nazi party Thyssen believed was preferable to communism. The documents do not show any evidence Bush directly aided that effort. His position with Union Banking never was a political issue for Bush, who was elected to the Senate from Connecticut in 1952.

Does it matter if he DIRECTLY did anything, though? Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists - right? Why isn’t the money trail important? Why would government-appointed commission after commission sweep facts like these aside as though they were… inconsequential? He traded evil for evil, for selfish motives - not for the good of his country.

No charges were brought against Union Banking’s American directors. The federal government was too busy trying to fight the war, said Donald Goldstein, a professor of public and international affairs at the University of Pittsburgh.

Right, because we had to make more money to give to a bank we have absolutely no control over. The world is filled with conspiracy theories. Sadly, however, most of them are accepted as gospel truth.

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James Robertson

August 4th, 2007
at 2:39pm

So if one of your ancestors owned slaves during the 1820s, does that have much bearing on you as a person?

Next time you decide to make a political post, engage your brain. It would make you look less foolish.

Well Chris, seems like you & the IPhone. Times & situations (always) change. Political expediencies dictate te rational of the times. Were we “right: to get into VietNam?? In the long run, no; but it seemed correct, @ that time.

hmmm I understand what you mean… He doesn’t have any proof

I’m a little bit upset right now because this article is forcing me to defend Bush.

I like logic so let’s break this down:

1. Prescott Bush was one of seven directors of Union Banking Corp.
2. A New York investment bank owned by a bank
3. controlled by the Thyssen family
4. Fritz Thyssen was an early financial supporter of Hitler

Bush’s Grandfather Directed Bank Tied to Man Who Funded Hitler?

Bush’s Grandfather was 1 of 7 directors of a bank owned by another bank, and that bank was owned by the family of a man who was an early financial supporter of Hitler.

This isn’t news. It’s not even interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Thyssen

Once the Nazi dictatorship took hold, however, Thyssen began to have second thoughts. Although he welcomed the suppression of the Communist Party, the Social Democrats and the trade unions, he disliked the mob violence of the SA. In 1934 he was one of the business leaders who persuaded Hitler to suppress the SA, leading to the “Night of the Long Knives”. Thyssen was horrified, however, at the simultaneous murder of various conservative figures such as Kurt von Schleicher.

Thyssen accepted the exclusion of Jews from German business and professional life by the Nazis, and dismissed his own Jewish employees, but he did not share Hitler’s violent anti-Semitism. As a Catholic, he also objected to the increasing repression of the Roman Catholic Church, which gathered pace after 1935. The breaking point for Thyssen was the violent pogrom against the Jews in November 1938 known as Kristallnacht, which caused him to resign from the Council of State. By 1939 he was also bitterly criticising the regime’s economic policies, which were subordinating everything to rearmament in preparation for war.

On a completely unrelated note:
How many American politicians shook hands with Henry Ford? Dined with Henry Ford? How many owned stock in Ford Motor Company? Had business dealings with Ford Motor Company? Received campaign contributions from Ford Motor Company?

Right. All of them.

If it’s considered a conspiracy every time a few powerful people team up to earn some dough by any means possible, then yes, the world is awash in conspiracies.

I agree with James. I just started reading this blog, but would not have considered doing so if I had known it was veering off into BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome, for those of you who don’t know the term) land. Chris, you will start more controversy, and drive a wedge between yourself and others with stuff like this than you probably intend. This is becoming a REAL problem for technical people out there who also happen to be either a.) Conservatives or b.) just people who are not necessarily for or against this President, but who are sick of hearing nothing but political smear on every tech site they go to. I come here looking for tech news and information, not political speeches or half-baked half-crazy conspiracies. Places like Digg.com is becoming so unreadable by anyone not into pot-addled political brain-farts. Please don’t fall into the same trap!

Tim

I don’t see why it matters what the president’s grandfather may or may not have done. Everyone that dislikes the current administration doesn’t need any other reason to dislike it. Everyone that likes it will continue to like it no matter what.

I don’t need conspiracy stories about Bush’s grandfather, or his military service, or 9/11 to dislike the current administration. The things that they admit to doing like putting Americans in military brigs for years without charging them, no-big contracts, wiretapping Americans, firing people who disagree with them, saying they aren’t part of the executive branch so they don’t have to abide by the rules of that branch, and ignoring congressional subpoenas are all more than enough for me to dislike the current administration.

Yeah I read all about that like 7 or 8 months ago. Its amazing, but people are to narrow minded to see the truth right in front of them.

[...] So, I’m the Conspiracy Theorist, eh? ~ Chris Pirillo (tags: politics georgebush) [...]

Conspiracy theories are fine IF all the relevant facts are presented. THEN the reader can make an informed opinion. Everyone else can then agree or disagree based on the evidence, not emotion or irrelevant questions (e.g slavery) that have nothing to do with the topic.

Knock down two skyscrapers in the largest city in the country with millions of people waching and hit the Pentagon without anyone ever knowing the wiser–piece of cake.

Bury some chemical weapons in the 100,000 sq miles of Iraq desert with no one around but a fricking camel, painted up with Iraqi Government markings to justify a massive war (and possibly another one)–absolutely impossible.

Guess they don’t make post 9-11 secret societies like they did the pre-9-11 ones….

“conspiracy theory”

me and my friends use to said “conspiracy practice” - not theory.

If his Father financed Saddam, why is it so implausible that his Grandfather financed Hitler?

It seems the Bush family are poor judges of character x-D

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