Shreve.net is Run by Idiots

Chirs, set it up that everytime they send you a email, have it forwarded to there email account. The only one i found was help@shreve.net. and they probably will have an suto responder, so have that forward back to them too.
what do you think?

Ah, welcome to computing in the 21st Century. “The New World Disorder.”

Oh, what's even better – those fun, “your mail server sent us a virus” e-mails, berating the ISP that “if they installed anti-virus software, they wouldn't have this problem”.
Of course, a quick check of the sender IP address and was it us? No…
Here's to RSS.

I have 22megs of that crap, 6000+ messages bouncing back to me from all my spamming (yea right). *sigh*
An interesting spam showed up that had the standard “mail returned to sender” subject, but was a spam in the rest of it.
“nuke em from orbit”

Does this mean that you're ont interested in the six million in Namibia?

Get a life! Go outside and enjoy the sunshine

Judging by the last few entries. I think chris's time of the month is here!!!! Lets all just back up a bit… LOL

well, I think all this is supposed to end by tomorrow. :)

hah. i get them everyday (sometimes up to 10 messages, each 100K) and it sucks.
who ARE these idiots anyway?! hmmph.

As someone who lives in north Louisiana (1 1/2 hours from Shreve.Net), I can tell you that there are no competent sysadmins here! I'm just glad that I have DSL and that we're not stuck in the last century with dialup here. The webhost for the company I work for doesn't have PHP, MySQL, or Perl installed on their webserver. All I can do is upload html and jpg/gif images to our website. This is why I'm moving away from Louisiana when I graduate from college :-/

Isn't it funny how many “paper MCSE” holders there are? They know how to click and drag but have no idea how to set up a good mailsweeper (or administer a network). We have one at work but thankfully this person is a programmer and has nothing to do with our network layout or security.

My favorite spam has always been the one that accuses you of trying to hack somewhere and says “I'm an MSCE and I know how to track you down.”
I was half about to respond to it saying “I don't have an MSCE, but I'm not as big of an idiot as you. I didn't hack you.” before I realized that it was a copy of a spam that I had recieved before and was just trying to aggregate working email addresses.
I did get a good chunk of the Domain Registrar spammers off my back though by posting a Terms of Service on my site that says that I charge $500 for download, storage, and critiquing of messages from people offering to add my site to a “Yellow Pages” service. When I get the spam, I reply with my form letter giving a “I like this ad and I believe your customers will too.” then state the charges for the proofreading and marketing analysis. I haven't gotten another for 6 months now.

I wouldn't worry about those MSCE's John, nor would I worry about those MCSE's.

afuckingmen. :)

Great idea Andrew! Set up a rule so every time you get an e-mail from them you delete it and reply, that way it will be back and forth auto-responses! :D They'll look at their logs and see hundreds of e-mails from chris@pirillo.com saying “You are all idiots!”
XD

I've yet to meet a smart support person at a hosting company or an ISP.
With my hosting company, I find that each time I request they enable a feature or install a component, they are asking me how it's done. Why the hell do I pay you every month?

perhaps we can start making the world a better place by voting against Bush in 2004. Keep putting the likes of him and his reich into power, and things will only continue to get worse.
So don't blame it on phantoms, blame it on real people like Bush, Ashcroft, Rumsfeld and Chaney. Do something about it, vote Dem.

Even though Gore created the internet, Bush must control it. It's a shreve.net and Bush Administration conspiracy!

BTW “its a start,” what is your GOOD alternative to Bush and CHENEY? I want to know who NOT to vote for from the current list of Democratic Candidates. Beacause they all have original ideas. I don't take political advice from someone who can't spell the Vice President's name and is afraid to reveal their true identity.

Chris, the same thing is happening on multiple ISP's all over the world. We shouldn't be blamed for trying to notify our users that their email is deemed undeliverable and why. So W32.Sobig spoofs email addys… Maybe you should be glad your address is in so many ShreveNet users address books and bark at those that started the virus…

As an employee of an ISP, I must warn you against such acts as flooding their mailboxes with auto-replies. While the ramifications of the virus are affecting you, are affecting all of us, the blame is not actually on shreve.net, but on the virus creators. The mail server in question is only doing it's job. However, a flood of emails to them would be with malicious intent, possibly tracked back to you, and possibly with legal ramifications. All of a sudden, YOU are the culprit (not a virus) and when they decide to quantify their damages, it will be YOU they come after. Of course, I agree that something has to be done. But, blaming an ISP for their mail server acting as it should act is not the way to go.

I'll blame the ISP's for not properly securing their SMTP servers by requiring password authentication for sending mails via their server. How many virii have propogated because a dumb-ass admin decided that simply using IP address for authentication was sufficient “security.” WAKE UP! All it takes is *ONE* customer getting hit with a zombie and your “secure” SMTP server will happily rely all the mail sent to the zombie. At least requiring the SMTP password authentication will make the zombie progs work harder to send out their e-mails.
And while we're on the topic of piss-poor administration, how many ISP's are running traffic shapers on their subnets? Let's see, set a trigger for alerts on traffic, and even identify traffic by packet contents and not simply by IP address and port. But hey! That would cut into the bottom line and we certainly can't allow that. Why would an ISP want to spend several thousands of dollars to set up a traffic shaping system?
Any ISP with an answer like the preceding post needs a major slap upside the back of the head. No, make that two or three slaps.

Yeah, what CodeGorilla said.

Hey Chris, I am a long time Gnomie and work about 5 minutes from the shreve.net offices. Want me to go over there for you and kick some booty? :-)
Mary