Comments on: Should Web Sites Block Old Browsers? http://chris.pirillo.com/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/ Geek, Internet Entrepreneur, Hardware Addict, Software Junkie, Book Author, Once TV Show Host, Technology Enthusiast, Shameless Self-Promoter, Tech Conference Coordinator, Early Adopter, Idea Evangelist, Tech Support Blogger, Bootstrapper, Media Personality, Technology Consultant, Thicker Quicker Picker Upper. Sat, 11 Jul 2009 08:39:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: joe http://chris.pirillo.com/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/comment-page-2/#comment-694361 joe Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:42:50 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2008/04/30/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/#comment-694361 This is a good idea. It is costly to have to continue to make site that work with all this incompatible browsers. Not to mention it hinders growth. Having to do browsers checks to serve up diferent versions of a websitesite, and or conditional css simply makes your site a little slower and more difficult to maintain and support. I dont believe that we have a responsibilty to make the internet somthing that can be used no matter how old or bad your system and software is. Also for those that say the end user should be responsible for security is easier said then done. Case in point for a site like PayPal that deals with money, they made the descision based on risk. If someone took the court over the info being comprimesed (via phishing or cross site scripting) it would cost PayPal alot of money even if they won the suite. And trust me the end user isn't going to think it was his fault nor will he want to take responsibility. As for corporations that still have a policy to hold onto old browsers because it is to problematic to upgrade. If you company is that large that you think it will take a long time to upgrade you should have an IT department that has the propertool were they could push out the updates and deploy a new browser over night. If not then fire you IT department and outdource (because they could do it). And you should do it. The biggest security threast to a network is the interent. And the browser is the main interface to it, it should be up to date and secure. The only way people will ever wake up and adopt softhing new is if you make them. People are more then willing to install plugins and there updates to see the content of the site. All you need to do is tell them to. This is a good idea. It is costly to have to continue to make site that work with all this incompatible browsers. Not to mention it hinders growth. Having to do browsers checks to serve up diferent versions of a websitesite, and or conditional css simply makes your site a little slower and more difficult to maintain and support. I dont believe that we have a responsibilty to make the internet somthing that can be used no matter how old or bad your system and software is.

Also for those that say the end user should be responsible for security is easier said then done. Case in point for a site like PayPal that deals with money, they made the descision based on risk. If someone took the court over the info being comprimesed (via phishing or cross site scripting) it would cost PayPal alot of money even if they won the suite. And trust me the end user isn’t going to think it was his fault nor will he want to take responsibility.

As for corporations that still have a policy to hold onto old browsers because it is to problematic to upgrade. If you company is that large that you think it will take a long time to upgrade you should have an IT department that has the propertool were they could push out the updates and deploy a new browser over night. If not then fire you IT department and outdource (because they could do it). And you should do it. The biggest security threast to a network is the interent. And the browser is the main interface to it, it should be up to date and secure.

The only way people will ever wake up and adopt softhing new is if you make them. People are more then willing to install plugins and there updates to see the content of the site. All you need to do is tell them to.

]]> By: passingXstorm http://chris.pirillo.com/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/comment-page-2/#comment-648264 passingXstorm Tue, 27 May 2008 05:07:32 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2008/04/30/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/#comment-648264 Some of the computers in my school run windows 98... lol, they can't have anything higher cuz they suck. XD Some of the computers in my school run windows 98… lol, they can’t have anything higher cuz they suck. XD

]]> By: abcd http://chris.pirillo.com/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/comment-page-2/#comment-627352 abcd Sun, 11 May 2008 01:59:41 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2008/04/30/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/#comment-627352 i have used computers(which i have no control over) which still use windows 98. ant to tell you the truth, the browsing experience is hell.. flash won't play properly, graphics is a nightmare, and don't get me started with the layout. i have used computers(which i have no control over) which still use windows 98. ant to tell you the truth, the browsing experience is hell.. flash won’t play properly, graphics is a nightmare, and don’t get me started with the layout.

]]> By: funckyjunky http://chris.pirillo.com/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/comment-page-2/#comment-641449 funckyjunky Tue, 06 May 2008 16:34:44 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2008/04/30/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/#comment-641449 My mother still uses 98 My mother still uses 98

]]> By: James Gia http://chris.pirillo.com/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/comment-page-2/#comment-625386 James Gia Sun, 04 May 2008 17:37:53 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2008/04/30/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/#comment-625386 My Dawg, You make a good point here in regards to security. I wish that Al Gore would have thought about this when he invented the internet. I suspect that the average human doesn't want to update their browser because it would mean having to learn new software. You know.... the interface probably won't be quite as familiar to them after the upgrade. Actually, I switched to Firefox about a year and a half ago.... and I hated how unfamiliar my browser was to me. It probably took a good month to get used to it and the switch was totally worth it.... but man.... what a painful month! I'm guessing that the best thing to do is to keep on top of your browser updates. That way, you'll never have to go through any drastic changes like I did. :OP Keep on programming the universe, James Gia My Dawg,

You make a good point here in regards to security. I wish that Al Gore would have thought about this when he invented the internet.

I suspect that the average human doesn’t want to update their browser because it would mean having to learn new software. You know…. the interface probably won’t be quite as familiar to them after the upgrade.

Actually, I switched to Firefox about a year and a half ago…. and I hated how unfamiliar my browser was to me. It probably took a good month to get used to it and the switch was totally worth it…. but man…. what a painful month!

I’m guessing that the best thing to do is to keep on top of your browser updates. That way, you’ll never have to go through any drastic changes like I did. :OP

Keep on programming the universe,
James Gia

]]> By: matt barrett http://chris.pirillo.com/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/comment-page-2/#comment-625209 matt barrett Sun, 04 May 2008 04:32:19 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2008/04/30/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/#comment-625209 I don't see why any would would it would take away form the traffic on the website witch in turn mite lose them some money in the long run. I don’t see why any would would it would take away form the traffic on the website witch in turn mite lose them some money in the long run.

]]> By: Joe Miller http://chris.pirillo.com/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/comment-page-1/#comment-625180 Joe Miller Sun, 04 May 2008 03:22:53 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2008/04/30/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/#comment-625180 The only people that have a reason for using an old browser are people who can't afford a new computer/os. And Linux isn't a good option for some people who aren't very good with tech or are afraid of using it. Then again, windows 98 can run firefox so the is no reason not to use it. Other than that, I agree with what you are saying. The only people that have a reason for using an old browser are people who can’t afford a new computer/os. And Linux isn’t a good option for some people who aren’t very good with tech or are afraid of using it. Then again, windows 98 can run firefox so the is no reason not to use it. Other than that, I agree with what you are saying.

]]> By: Gary Staley http://chris.pirillo.com/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/comment-page-1/#comment-624912 Gary Staley Sat, 03 May 2008 14:31:24 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2008/04/30/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/#comment-624912 When I upgraded to IE7 I had trouble with my computer and had to revert back to IE6. Same with my wifes computer. I think Microsoft should get it right before they introduce a new product. When I upgraded to IE7 I had trouble with my computer and had to revert back to IE6. Same with my wifes computer. I think Microsoft should get it right before they introduce a new product.

]]> By: Bainsy95 http://chris.pirillo.com/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/comment-page-1/#comment-624880 Bainsy95 Sat, 03 May 2008 12:42:38 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2008/04/30/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/#comment-624880 Yeah, this is quite a good idea, as the latest browsers have better security BUT...On older OSs, you won't be able to use the site, as the latest browsers have compatibility issues Yeah, this is quite a good idea, as the latest browsers have better security

BUT…On older OSs, you won’t be able to use the site, as the latest browsers have compatibility issues

]]> By: martineyles http://chris.pirillo.com/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/comment-page-1/#comment-641450 martineyles Sat, 03 May 2008 11:28:15 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2008/04/30/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/#comment-641450 We just need Microsoft to do the great service of back-porting IE7 & when released IE8 to windows 2000 as a critical update. I'm not holding out much hope though :-( We just need Microsoft to do the great service of back-porting IE7 & when released IE8 to windows 2000 as a critical update. I’m not holding out much hope though :-(

]]> By: Jake http://chris.pirillo.com/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/comment-page-1/#comment-624760 Jake Sat, 03 May 2008 06:18:39 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2008/04/30/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/#comment-624760 I think that you are correct and that more popular sights like youtube, myspace, facebook, and even google, or yahoo. I think that you are correct and that more popular sights like youtube, myspace, facebook, and even google, or yahoo.

]]> By: Jacque http://chris.pirillo.com/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/comment-page-1/#comment-624640 Jacque Sat, 03 May 2008 01:14:46 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2008/04/30/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/#comment-624640 this is actually a very good point. i agree with you that every site should just kick out those old browsers. my friend is currently using windows 95. its been more than 10 years! he refuses to upgrade because he likes the classic feel of windows 95. ahhhhh! someone needs to come out of the stone age! My parents are still using netscape.lol.its absurd! they have had their netscape email since they got married about ooo....12 years ago. when filling out their email address on paperwork people have actually asked them.."netscape? i haven't heard of them" hahaha! I currently use many different web browsers from mozilla to safari. mostly i use mozilla firefox because of the interface is so customizable. this is actually a very good point. i agree with you that every site should just kick out those old browsers. my friend is currently using windows 95. its been more than 10 years! he refuses to upgrade because he likes the classic feel of windows 95. ahhhhh! someone needs to come out of the stone age!

My parents are still using netscape.lol.its absurd! they have had their netscape email since they got married about ooo….12 years ago. when filling out their email address on paperwork people have actually asked them..”netscape? i haven’t heard of them” hahaha!

I currently use many different web browsers from mozilla to safari. mostly i use mozilla firefox because of the interface is so customizable.

]]> By: BMAN294 http://chris.pirillo.com/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/comment-page-1/#comment-624562 BMAN294 Fri, 02 May 2008 23:13:20 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2008/04/30/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/#comment-624562 I think that companies should not block old browsers. Some of their customers may be running an operating system that works best with a certain version of a browser. i think that if the company really cares about their customers, they will support all browsers. I think that companies should not block old browsers. Some of their customers may be running an operating system that works best with a certain version of a browser. i think that if the company really cares about their customers, they will support all browsers.

]]> By: thefsxflyer http://chris.pirillo.com/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/comment-page-1/#comment-624532 thefsxflyer Fri, 02 May 2008 22:01:28 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2008/04/30/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/#comment-624532 Completely agreed! I think blocking old browsers will do many things. First it will get people of there lazy butts and get better software onto their computer. Second it will help security for people and hackers will need to be on their toes. Paypal is doing a good thing in my opinion and they need to move it to ebay and amazon and sites like that. I think it would help society in general Completely agreed! I think blocking old browsers will do many things. First it will get people of there lazy butts and get better software onto their computer. Second it will help security for people and hackers will need to be on their toes. Paypal is doing a good thing in my opinion and they need to move it to ebay and amazon and sites like that. I think it would help society in general

]]> By: ssssroryssss2 http://chris.pirillo.com/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/comment-page-1/#comment-641451 ssssroryssss2 Fri, 02 May 2008 17:40:18 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2008/04/30/should-web-sites-block-old-browsers/#comment-641451 lol when Chris said "IE 8 is possibily gonna be better, just use FireFox" my fully up to date FireFox crashed!!!! hahaha lol when Chris said “IE 8 is possibily gonna be better, just use FireFox” my fully up to date FireFox crashed!!!! hahaha

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