Comments on: Rubbing XGL in Windows Vista’s Wounds

By: Sami

Sami — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 00:17:51 +0000

Actually wobbly windows, and other effects were available for Windows for a long time – mostly commercially though. However it seems that with flow of time many things change – check free Nimi 0.5 that brings some more hope and proud to current users with it’s latest effect of wobbly, jelly windows.

By: vista wobbly windows - Dogpile Web Search

vista wobbly windows - Dogpile Web Search — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:22:27 +0000

[...] http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/10315-bounty... • Found on Google, Windows Live Rubbing XGL in Windows Vista’s Wounds ~ Chris Pirillo And thats taking into the fact they get the installation of Linux and XGL and the other setup [...]

By: Brdnh8

Brdnh8 — Sat, 24 May 2008 17:52:00 +0000

Blah blah blah with the mac.. Screw MAC, everyone hated MS for trying to dominate the market. What about MAC, jacked a free “FreeBSD” kernel, and modified it enough to ruin it, added some lame browser, and PPL think it’s go great, yet yer only “allowed” to run it on a MAC System, bah I installed leo4all, on my Intel Quad core, and I still hate mac’s, what a waste of time… BTW for those interested in running Leopard on your intel or AMD based PC system check this out … http://osx86leo4all.wikidot.com/ .. I run Vista, XP, Gentoo, openBSD & Ubuntu all much better OS’s than hackentosh.. I personally h8 all apple products, will never own a iANYTHING!
Anyway :) thats my two cents’ *nix is an awesome OS, find your distro, you’ll be at home..Alot of distro’s now have very good support channels on irc *which now can easily enter on Firefox with the Chatzilla plug in (google it) /// I’ve been computing since DOS/DESQview days, and I think MAC is joke, with that said, have a nice day! :)

By: Johan

Johan — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:19:57 +0000

[..] and wound up remembering why I dislike Linux so much in the first place: it’s not easy, no matter what anybody leads you to believe. [..]

At the time you wrote this, XGL was in very early alpha. I’d bet that if you got a very early alpha of pretty much any application, none would be easy to install. *All* distros have a packet manager nowadays, some are even more user-friendly than anything Windows or MacOS has. For example, let’s say you want MPlayer. Click Applications > Add/Remove Applications > Check MPlayer and apply. Installed and configured without even having to visit a webpage. If you want to do more high-tech stuff, you can’t really expect it to be that easy you know. The “hard” things on linux are the ones that aren’t possible in Windows, and they’re not really hard just different.

By: Pianohacker

Pianohacker — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 23:14:23 +0000

Yeah, this stuff rocks. Running Beryl with full effects on a smallish workstation’s ATI Xpress 200. I have discovered, though, that you will need a slightly beefier video card if you want super-smooth effects on a huge monitor, like my new 1440×900 one. Keep this in mind if you have an older PC and a big monitor…

By: jedi

jedi — Sat, 10 Feb 2007 09:09:04 +0000

Well ya I guess installing Xgl would be hard to install if you didn’t know anything about computers. And I say computers because most think they know alittle about WINDOWS(Microsoft) and all the sudden they are expert computer techs. There is more, way more out there then just windows, and by the way all you need to install Xgl is some drivers and to modify a couple of files with gedit. Took me like 10 mins. Xgl is one of the coolest things I have seen in the computer world in a while. If you want to check out Xgl the check out the openSUSE site. The instructions WERE pretty easy to understand as long granted you can read. This is required to run linux. Anywho I would check out Xgl….is kicks ass.
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By: Gentoo Forums :: View topic - is this possible?

Gentoo Forums :: View topic - is this possible? — Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:25:08 +0000

[...] English article: Rubbing XGL in Windows Vista�s Wounds And video: http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/09/06/vistas-ui-is-better-than-this/ A few Gentoo based Linux distributions apparently featuring XGL: http://kororaa.org/ http://www.sabayonlinux.org/ [...]

By: ITpro: Et alternativ til Leopard og Vista - XGL + Linux

ITpro: Et alternativ til Leopard og Vista - XGL + Linux — Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:31:29 +0000

[...] Av Leif Daland · Publisert av Per St�le Kvam · L�rdag 16. september 2006 21:30Mange har nok f�tt med seg at Microsoft og Apple ikke akkurat er bestevenner om dagen. Apple har blant annet mer eller mindre beskyldt Microsoft for � stjele ideer fra dem, og ballen har begynt � rulle med diverse videoer p� nettet. Mye handler om teknologier som skal lage det visuelle brukergrensesnittet s� imponerende som mulig p� oss brukere, og da er effekter en stor del av pakken. Midt i denne visuelle drakampen har det imidlertid dukket opp en konkurrent fra GPL-milj�et. Kommentar Tips en venn Utskriftsvennlig side BokmerkeKororaa Linux LiveCD 0.2 kan nemlig vise til fantastiske effekter ved bruk av XGL sammen med KDE-brukergrensesnittet til Linux. N� skal det imidlertid sies at Kororaa ikke er den eneste Linuxdistroen som XGL kan brukes med, men det spesielle er at de har lansert en LiveCD hvor XGL er lagt til p� forh�nd slik at du slipper � fikle det til i etterkant av en Linuxinstallasjon. Fordelen med dette er at brukere (erfarne som uerfarne) lett kan f� et godt inntrykk av denne nye teknologien uten � m�tte installere og konfigurere noe somhelst. Alt som beh�ves � gj�re er � laste ned LiveCD, brenne filen (iso-fil) til en cd, restarte PCen og la den boote opp med Kororaa-LiveCDen. Deretter gj�r den alt selv og grafikk og lyd burde falle p� plass i prosessen uten din inngripen. Deretter laster Kororaa inn og du kan pr�ve brukergrensesnittet, med XGL, selv. Det skal nevnes at LiveCDen, pga GNU-lovstridigheter (pga at ATI og Nvidea drivere f�lger med) dessverre ikke lenger er tilgjengelig for nedlasting p� produsentens hjemmeside, men Chris Pirillo v/Lockergnome satte igang en jakt p� denne LiveCD-utgaven og kom frem til denne torrenlenken. Hvis du imidlertid er erfaren med Linux og vil fors�ke deg p� � installere selv, eller bare ikke liker � operere i gr�sonen, s� kan du alts� selv installere XGL p� endel Linuxdistroer. Dette har jeg imidlertid ikke testet selv. Hva kan s� XGL gj�re for Linux? XGL gir ekstreme muligheter for Linux’ grafiske brukergrensesnitt. Under mine testfors�k opplevde jeg det som utrolig str�mlinjet, glidende og funksjonelt. Tilgangen p� flere skrivebord er tatt et langt grafisk steg videre i Linux med XGL idet man har introdusert mulighet for glidende overgang mellom den og hvor det hele ser ut som en kube. Se denne videoen, s� skj�nner du hva jeg mener. Andre muligheter er muligheter for � zoome trinnl�st og glidende, gode muligheter for rask organisering av skrivebordet samt gjennomsiktighet. Alt i alt gir dette Linux et enormt grafisk l�ft som operativsystem, og det kan v�re nettopp dette som skal til for � introdusere flere brukere. Det eneste som gjenst�r n� er � senke terskelen n�r det gjelder brukervennligheten i brukergrensesnittet. [...]

By: Spookster

Spookster — Mon, 27 Nov 2006 06:55:24 +0000

Old hardware, don’t be scared, give it a try!!! It is as amazing as the video shows. I have an athlon 1100 with 512megs of RAM, an NVidia GeForce2 mx 200 video card with 32 Megs of RAM, and am currently running Suse 10.1. It runs as smooth as butter. It’s more than eye candy, it really does make using the computer more efficient.

By: DJM.

DJM. — Sun, 12 Nov 2006 23:12:29 +0000

If you want to try AIGLX + GLX + compiz + Linux on your machine without installing anything, try this Live CD:

http://www.sabayonlinux.org/

It’s a Gentoo-based Linux Live-CD which ships with GLX + AIGLX + compiz plus all the binary drivers necessary to get the effects working.

It’s *AMAZING*. Show that to your local Windoze friends and their jaws will drop to the floor !!! :-)

I showed this stuff in my office with the result that all our IT apprentices are dumping their Windows installations and now are top-motivated for the Linux learning-curve ahead of them. :-)

Regards,
DJM.

By: Rubbing XGL in Windows Vista’s Wounds

Rubbing XGL in Windows Vista’s Wounds — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:16:17 +0000

[...] Rubbing XGL in Windows Vista’s Wounds http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/09/09…-vistas-wounds/ __________________ Tiger [...]

By: Rothguard

Rothguard — Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:18:33 +0000

anyone who comes in here and complains about about a free open source project such as xgl not being as good now as what windows will be in the future is a moron. XGL for a version 0.1.1 is far better than anything ive ever seen from microsoft after running every vista beta so far i can say the my preference for the next year will be Ubuntu Edgy Eft + XGL/Beryl to slaughter anything microsoft can throw up. show me a video NOW of vista doing something exciting! If linux is good enough for my 83 year old grandmother its good enough for you!

By: Lowboyblue

Lowboyblue — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 18:59:46 +0000

I’ve recently installed a distro with XGL/Compiz called Sabayon 3.0. It’s a Gentoo based distro that can also be tried out as a LIVE CD. Give it a try the eye candy is great and it’s packed with everything but the kitchen sink. Hint: to get the distro to boot running XGL/Compiz you have to specify the option durring the boot process, [gentoo xgl].

By: Robert McLaws: Windows Vista Edition

Robert McLaws: Windows Vista Edition — Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:10:22 +0000

[...] Why Vista's UI Isn't Cooler, or Take a Deep Breath Chris Posted Saturday, September 16, 2006 2:58 AM by Robert McLaws | 11 Comments Filed under: User Interface Larry Osterman (ya, the same Larry Osterman that got bit by the Audio bug) has a great post on why XGL isn't as useful as Chris Pirillo thinks it is. Can you imagine the tech support calls from the receptionist at XYZ Paper Company in Diluth, complaining that her app keeps crashing when it's really on the other side of the "desktop cube"? I've said it before, and I'll say it again: OS X can afford to take creative liberties with it's OS' visual stylings because a) most of its users are right-brained creative types that value visual appearance over usefulness, b) its userbase is so small that drastic changes only have minimal overall impact, and c) even fewer businesses rely on Macs, so the retraining issues there are minimal as well. The bottom line is, pretty does not always equal practical. Plus, Microsoft has other considerations, like the financial impact of UI changes on companies adopting their software. (Too bad calculating this impact is not as simple as it was in 1995). The Windows UI is the victim of Microsoft's monopoly success on the desktop, plain and simple. I would think that, being a savvy businessman, Chris would understand this. Personally, I think Chris has a lot of valuable things to say (and while singling out Chris, I'm also speaking to other UI detractors as well). As well founded as his UI gripes may be, his feedback on Vista would be far more valuable if he accepted the reality of the situation and focused on problems that actually stand a chance of getting fixed at this point in the game. Acknowledging the fact that Microsoft has made huge strides in the fit & finish department might also be appropriate. Share this post [...]

By: acimeha

acimeha — Thu, 28 Sep 2006 17:19:34 +0000

i have xgl running on suse 10.1 on both gnome and kde.
if you do what they tell you on http://en.opensuse.org/Using_Xgl_on_SUSE_Linux
its just a couple of clicks !

my machine runs an amd sempron 2800+MHz with 1GB of Ram wich isnt a fast machine at all.

keep in mind that linux is up to 10 times faster then Windows XP (dont ask me why).

i deeply disagree with chris. he seems to have never seen YAST (SuSE’s setup-tool) or a newer linux-distro.

now a days linux (especially SuSE) is rock stable, fast and simple to installe, secure and much simpler to use then windows.

the only real problem is that not many soft- and hardware companies have understood this yet. therfor linuxports of Dreamweaver, Photoshop etc. and some hardwaredrivers are still missing. (try knoppix to test hardware ! )

neverless XGL is a big gift of novell to the opensource-community and shall be a reason to give linux a shot!

after two weeks you will never wanna go back to windows !

regards