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		<title>By: Cliffystones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliffystones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick,

If it were only that simple.  When I own a CD, LP, or even 8-Track of an older tune, do I or do I not own the &quot;rights&quot; to that music?  This needs to be cleared up, but I believe the US Supreme Court did have a ruling that stated pretty much that you can copy your own music for your own personal use.

So if I own the LP, but don&#039;t want to go through the hassle of digitizing it myself, am I stealing if I partake of someone else&#039;s labor of digitizing the same LP?  I don&#039;t know that answer myself, just being rhetorical for discussion&#039;s sake here. 

&quot;Do artists, publishers and retailers not deserve to earn the money they have been working hard for, rather than having it stolen out from under them?&quot;

Well, good point, and I agree to a point.  But Michael Jackson owns the right to the Beatles catalog (or did) and Elvis is dead and buried!  So when is the &quot;work&quot; finally compensated for fairly?  

Drug companies who develop miracle drugs have a set window of time before by law their product becomes &quot;generic&quot; (aka &quot;public domain&quot;), so why should some fat-cat in the year 2056 make one damned red cent off of a tune that was written and recorded a century before?

For me the RIAA has to do some real good explaining to justify the current &quot;creative rights&quot; protection racket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick,</p>
<p>If it were only that simple.  When I own a CD, LP, or even 8-Track of an older tune, do I or do I not own the &#8220;rights&#8221; to that music?  This needs to be cleared up, but I believe the US Supreme Court did have a ruling that stated pretty much that you can copy your own music for your own personal use.</p>
<p>So if I own the LP, but don&#8217;t want to go through the hassle of digitizing it myself, am I stealing if I partake of someone else&#8217;s labor of digitizing the same LP?  I don&#8217;t know that answer myself, just being rhetorical for discussion&#8217;s sake here. </p>
<p>&#8220;Do artists, publishers and retailers not deserve to earn the money they have been working hard for, rather than having it stolen out from under them?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, good point, and I agree to a point.  But Michael Jackson owns the right to the Beatles catalog (or did) and Elvis is dead and buried!  So when is the &#8220;work&#8221; finally compensated for fairly?  </p>
<p>Drug companies who develop miracle drugs have a set window of time before by law their product becomes &#8220;generic&#8221; (aka &#8220;public domain&#8221;), so why should some fat-cat in the year 2056 make one damned red cent off of a tune that was written and recorded a century before?</p>
<p>For me the RIAA has to do some real good explaining to justify the current &#8220;creative rights&#8221; protection racket.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is so freaking hard about understanding that if someone receives property, they needed to pay for it?  Otherwise, it&#039;s theft, plain and simple.  

Was there some world-wide repeal of the concept of ethics?  Should people simply walk up to unattended cars in parking lots, climb in and drive them away simply because they want the cars but can afford to (or simply don&#039;t want to) pay for them?

Do artists, publishers and retailers not deserve to earn the money they have been working hard for, rather than having it stolen out from under them?  Do you not deserve to receive the money that you earned by working whatever hours you worked at your job?

I really don&#039;t understand the disconnect between peoples&#039; desire to possess things and their moral obligation to pay for what they want to possess.  It seems really simple to me, something that should be learned by the time you&#039;re 6 years old: you don&#039;t steal;  if it isn&#039;t yours, you leave it alone; if something&#039;s for sale, you pay for it; if you don&#039;t you&#039;re a thief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is so freaking hard about understanding that if someone receives property, they needed to pay for it?  Otherwise, it&#8217;s theft, plain and simple.  </p>
<p>Was there some world-wide repeal of the concept of ethics?  Should people simply walk up to unattended cars in parking lots, climb in and drive them away simply because they want the cars but can afford to (or simply don&#8217;t want to) pay for them?</p>
<p>Do artists, publishers and retailers not deserve to earn the money they have been working hard for, rather than having it stolen out from under them?  Do you not deserve to receive the money that you earned by working whatever hours you worked at your job?</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t understand the disconnect between peoples&#8217; desire to possess things and their moral obligation to pay for what they want to possess.  It seems really simple to me, something that should be learned by the time you&#8217;re 6 years old: you don&#8217;t steal;  if it isn&#8217;t yours, you leave it alone; if something&#8217;s for sale, you pay for it; if you don&#8217;t you&#8217;re a thief.</p>
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		<title>By: D Lowrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>D Lowrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never understood what the deal with illegally downloading music is. If you have satellite TV...satellite radio or You Tube...why does anyone need to incur the wrath of those &quot;in charge&quot;? With the first two...you can use Open Source software to stream &amp; edit the signal. With You Tube...you can &quot;rip&quot; anything on there with a URL. Can even do this with an Eee netbook &amp; either an external drive or a monster sized jump drive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never understood what the deal with illegally downloading music is. If you have satellite TV&#8230;satellite radio or You Tube&#8230;why does anyone need to incur the wrath of those &#8220;in charge&#8221;? With the first two&#8230;you can use Open Source software to stream &amp; edit the signal. With You Tube&#8230;you can &#8220;rip&#8221; anything on there with a URL. Can even do this with an Eee netbook &amp; either an external drive or a monster sized jump drive.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Nuxoll</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/riaa-abandons-mass-lawsuits-in-favor-of-isp-deals/#comment-701599</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Nuxoll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, instead of filing suits against poor people, they&#039;ll just tell your ISP you&#039;re doing bad things and your ISP will comply, awesome!  Now the RIAA is ditching the current legal system (that they were manipulating anyways) and becoming the police themselves, if they say you&#039;re doing something wrong then by gummit you are!

I can&#039;t believe this is happening, and it&#039;s complete crap, the ISP&#039;s that support this don&#039;t deserve my money or yours.

So, overall, no, I don&#039;t think this is a good idea.  This will open the floodgates of the RIAA hurting more innocent people, and I&#039;m sure the MPAA and ESA will be soon to follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, instead of filing suits against poor people, they&#8217;ll just tell your ISP you&#8217;re doing bad things and your ISP will comply, awesome!  Now the RIAA is ditching the current legal system (that they were manipulating anyways) and becoming the police themselves, if they say you&#8217;re doing something wrong then by gummit you are!</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe this is happening, and it&#8217;s complete crap, the ISP&#8217;s that support this don&#8217;t deserve my money or yours.</p>
<p>So, overall, no, I don&#8217;t think this is a good idea.  This will open the floodgates of the RIAA hurting more innocent people, and I&#8217;m sure the MPAA and ESA will be soon to follow.</p>
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		<title>By: James Savage</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 01:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would fully support legal bit torrents for $10 a month. That is easy to pay for. But three strikes? How do they know exactly what you are downloading. I would hate my net to get canceled for Linux ISOs. This seems like it would require heavy analysis of network traffic that would be costly for ISPs. Would it lead to extra fees or is all monitoring done by the RIAA. I guess I don&#039;t know enough about all their methods to fully comment. But I can say the $10 policy sounds good, but will probably never come to pass (its too good to).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would fully support legal bit torrents for $10 a month. That is easy to pay for. But three strikes? How do they know exactly what you are downloading. I would hate my net to get canceled for Linux ISOs. This seems like it would require heavy analysis of network traffic that would be costly for ISPs. Would it lead to extra fees or is all monitoring done by the RIAA. I guess I don&#8217;t know enough about all their methods to fully comment. But I can say the $10 policy sounds good, but will probably never come to pass (its too good to).</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a story with some clarification on this &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/12/20/136255&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;over at slashdot&lt;/a&gt;. From that post: &lt;blockquote&gt;Knowing that the RIAA has a problem with telling the truth, I did a little investigating, and found out that the RIAA had, in fact, commenced a wave of lawsuits just last week.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a story with some clarification on this <a href="http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/12/20/136255" rel="nofollow">over at slashdot</a>. From that post:<br />
<blockquote>Knowing that the RIAA has a problem with telling the truth, I did a little investigating, and found out that the RIAA had, in fact, commenced a wave of lawsuits just last week.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the idea of Rhapsody.  The only reason I don&#039;t use it is because I think the last time I checked into there service, it was US only.  But if they came to Canada, I would most likely pay anywhere between $5 and $20 a month.

To me, subscription deals like Netflix and Rhapsody are cheaper then buying them in stores, and do not have the after effects of getting found doing it illegally with Bit-Torrent or similar options.

But for this kinda service, isn&#039;t practical for people like me that only have 60GB&#039;s a month transfer (combined upload and down). :&#039;(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the idea of Rhapsody.  The only reason I don&#8217;t use it is because I think the last time I checked into there service, it was US only.  But if they came to Canada, I would most likely pay anywhere between $5 and $20 a month.</p>
<p>To me, subscription deals like Netflix and Rhapsody are cheaper then buying them in stores, and do not have the after effects of getting found doing it illegally with Bit-Torrent or similar options.</p>
<p>But for this kinda service, isn&#8217;t practical for people like me that only have 60GB&#8217;s a month transfer (combined upload and down). :&#8217;(</p>
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		<title>By: Angsuman Chakraborty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angsuman Chakraborty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone in RIAA has finally come to their senses. I think this idea is much better than suing individuals, it simply wasn&#039;t cost effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone in RIAA has finally come to their senses. I think this idea is much better than suing individuals, it simply wasn&#8217;t cost effective.</p>
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