Comments on: Refurbished Laptops http://chris.pirillo.com/refurbished-laptops/ News and Reviews! Geek, Internet Entrepreneur, Hardware Addict, Software Junkie, Book Author, Once TV Show Host, Technology Enthusiast, Shameless Self-Promoter, Tech Conference Coordinator, Early Adopter, Idea Evangelist, Tech Support Blogger, Bootstrapper, Media Personality, Technology Consultant, Thicker Quicker Picker Upper. Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: James http://chris.pirillo.com/refurbished-laptops/#comment-739787 James Sat, 06 Feb 2010 20:40:44 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/03/23/refurbished-laptops/#comment-739787 When it comes to any refurbished electronics (computer, camera, gps, etc) the quality is typically better than that of a new unit. Why? When a product is sent back by a consumer the company has to do additional testing to 1) find out if the consumer did some damage to the product/accessories and 2) remedy the problem that caused it to be sent back! Most faulty electronics are sent back within 2 weeks of purchase. This person's two weeks of headaches can lead to me buying a "refurbished" item that is in all ways more reliable than something new. I don't want to be the one that runs into the problems and ends up sending something back for a refund or replacement. I have never purchased a refurbished item that I wasn't extremely happy with. A reconditoned/refurbished item is tested by a consumer just like me; except they find all the problems with it and send it back! I'd gladly take a 100% functional item with a few scratches than a shiny new item with bugs and glitches. Did I mention that most items marked as "refurbished" are sold for 30% less price than their unreliable "new" counterparts? It's a no brainer: for a headache free experience refurb is the way to go. When it comes to any refurbished electronics (computer, camera, gps, etc) the quality is typically better than that of a new unit. Why? When a product is sent back by a consumer the company has to do additional testing to 1) find out if the consumer did some damage to the product/accessories and 2) remedy the problem that caused it to be sent back! Most faulty electronics are sent back within 2 weeks of purchase. This person’s two weeks of headaches can lead to me buying a “refurbished” item that is in all ways more reliable than something new. I don’t want to be the one that runs into the problems and ends up sending something back for a refund or replacement. I have never purchased a refurbished item that I wasn’t extremely happy with. A reconditoned/refurbished item is tested by a consumer just like me; except they find all the problems with it and send it back! I’d gladly take a 100% functional item with a few scratches than a shiny new item with bugs and glitches. Did I mention that most items marked as “refurbished” are sold for 30% less price than their unreliable “new” counterparts? It’s a no brainer: for a headache free experience refurb is the way to go.

]]> By: ajit singh http://chris.pirillo.com/refurbished-laptops/#comment-739143 ajit singh Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:51:37 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/03/23/refurbished-laptops/#comment-739143 Please do not buy refurbished if you can afford a new one, even if it is less powerful. I got one from Dell Financial Services for $300. LCd is totally useless. I always use 2nd LCD. That is how I had planned it to use. So I keep lid closed. But If I wanted it to use as Laptop, it can not use it. Lcd is too bad. It is suppoed to be refurbished by no 1 company in world. I do not think they ever looked at it. It must be off lease and heavily used. Its junk for $300. for $400 -450 you can a decent Laptop nowadays. Please do not buy refurbished if you can afford a new one, even if it is less powerful. I got one from Dell Financial Services for $300. LCd is totally useless. I always use 2nd LCD. That is how I had planned it to use. So I keep lid closed. But If I wanted it to use as Laptop, it can not use it. Lcd is too bad. It is suppoed to be refurbished by no 1 company in world. I do not think they ever looked at it. It must be off lease and heavily used. Its junk for $300. for $400 -450 you can a decent Laptop nowadays.

]]> By: Thomson@ Cheap computer http://chris.pirillo.com/refurbished-laptops/#comment-707034 Thomson@ Cheap computer Sat, 07 Feb 2009 11:37:45 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/03/23/refurbished-laptops/#comment-707034 Isn't there a difference between a used and refurbished computer and i think you are talking about a used one. Isn’t there a difference between a used and refurbished computer and i think you are talking about a used one.

]]> By: HSVBoI http://chris.pirillo.com/refurbished-laptops/#comment-625277 HSVBoI Sun, 04 May 2008 08:17:02 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/03/23/refurbished-laptops/#comment-625277 i would think that getting a refurbished laptop would be better than a new laptop...because with the new laptop there might be a problem with them all the lime and you have to put up with it or something and the refurbished ones there might be a problem but when they get refurbished that problem would be fixed and i think a refurbished one would be more reliable as well...because it has been checked..and fixed if needed... i would think that getting a refurbished laptop would be better than a new laptop…because with the new laptop there might be a problem with them all the lime and you have to put up with it or something and the refurbished ones there might be a problem but when they get refurbished that problem would be fixed and i think a refurbished one would be more reliable as well…because it has been checked..and fixed if needed…

]]> By: Billy http://chris.pirillo.com/refurbished-laptops/#comment-542069 Billy Sun, 16 Sep 2007 18:35:54 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/03/23/refurbished-laptops/#comment-542069 I was skeptical with my first refurbished laptop (gateway MT8321), but it has worked perfectly. I will never buy new again. $1200 laptop for $550. Since refurbished laptops get full factory testing (new laptops do not) they are actually very reliable. My "new" computers run into more issues then my refurbs. I was skeptical with my first refurbished laptop (gateway MT8321), but it has worked perfectly. I will never buy new again. $1200 laptop for $550. Since refurbished laptops get full factory testing (new laptops do not) they are actually very reliable. My “new” computers run into more issues then my refurbs.

]]> By: Haru Cara http://chris.pirillo.com/refurbished-laptops/#comment-221161 Haru Cara Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:47:39 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/03/23/refurbished-laptops/#comment-221161 Ãóãë – ïèäîð ïîçîðíûé. ßõà – íàø ïîèñêîâèê!

]]> By: Greg http://chris.pirillo.com/refurbished-laptops/#comment-50532 Greg Wed, 04 Oct 2006 10:29:34 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/03/23/refurbished-laptops/#comment-50532 Well, I can't agree with you. If you buy refurbished laptop from respected remanufacturer you don't have to worry about such issues. All those laptops are tested in details and all parts that are broken or are about to die in near future are replaced with new ones. Also, companies like IBM, Dell or HP sell refurbished notebooks themself - and I do trust in quality of in example IBM products. Regards Well, I can’t agree with you.

If you buy refurbished laptop from respected remanufacturer you don’t have to worry about such issues. All those laptops are tested in details and all parts that are broken or are about to die in near future are replaced with new ones. Also, companies like IBM, Dell or HP sell refurbished notebooks themself – and I do trust in quality of in example IBM products.

Regards

]]> By: Anonymous http://chris.pirillo.com/refurbished-laptops/#comment-19253 Anonymous Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:00:34 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/03/23/refurbished-laptops/#comment-19253 We have been refurbishing laptops for many years and you also have to take into consideration wether you are looking @ corporate quality or consumer quality. While Dell offers new notebooks starting @ $499 if you look closley their warranty is 90 day out the door on a brand new machine (this should tell you something). Inside these machines you get parts made by the lowest bidder. Batteries tend to go out in the first year for a replacement cost of about $100 and on top of that you typically get a very low MAh battery. If you are lucky another component wont fail in that first year. Consumer grade machines also have a smaller part manufacturing life so finding parts is more difficult where as a corporate grade laptop has much better parts availability which keeps the cost for repair down. Don't get me wrong I see your point when you say pricing for new machine can be attractive but you have to look at the whole picture. Corporate Grade machines are designed to last. To comment on your screen life expectancy. Most screens are fixable by replacing an inverter or backlight for about $25. And in many cases as simple as reseating a loose cable. I really hope your you take the time to weigh the good and the bad before you need to replace your next set of machines. We have been refurbishing laptops for many years and you also have to take into consideration wether you are looking @ corporate quality or consumer quality. While Dell offers new notebooks starting @ $499 if you look closley their warranty is 90 day out the door on a brand new machine (this should tell you something). Inside these machines you get parts made by the lowest bidder. Batteries tend to go out in the first year for a replacement cost of about $100 and on top of that you typically get a very low MAh battery. If you are lucky another component wont fail in that first year. Consumer grade machines also have a smaller part manufacturing life so finding parts is more difficult where as a corporate grade laptop has much better parts availability which keeps the cost for repair down. Don't get me wrong I see your point when you say pricing for new machine can be attractive but you have to look at the whole picture. Corporate Grade machines are designed to last. To comment on your screen life expectancy. Most screens are fixable by replacing an inverter or backlight for about $25. And in many cases as simple as reseating a loose cable. I really hope your you take the time to weigh the good and the bad before you need to replace your next set of machines.

]]> By: PartsBJ http://chris.pirillo.com/refurbished-laptops/#comment-19252 PartsBJ Wed, 12 Apr 2006 18:00:08 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/03/23/refurbished-laptops/#comment-19252 I disagree with your assessment of the used laptops being sold today. I have been selling used equipment such as laptops and computers for years. My company -- Bob Johnson's Computer Stuff Inc. URL: www.bobjohnson.com even offers a Limited Lifetime warranty on all of our equipment that we sell. Our large customer base and repeat customers would also tend to disagree. I think you just need to understand that it depends on the company that you are dealing with. We take pride in our quality and what type of used laptops we resell. I disagree with your assessment of the used laptops being sold today. I have been selling used equipment such as laptops and computers for years. My company — Bob Johnson's Computer Stuff Inc. URL: http://www.bobjohnson.com even offers a Limited Lifetime warranty on all of our equipment that we sell. Our large customer base and repeat customers would also tend to disagree. I think you just need to understand that it depends on the company that you are dealing with. We take pride in our quality and what type of used laptops we resell.

]]> By: Anonymous http://chris.pirillo.com/refurbished-laptops/#comment-19251 Anonymous Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:56:33 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/03/23/refurbished-laptops/#comment-19251 I would like to comment that refurbished computers would definately be my pick of choice when having to deside whether to buy new or refurbished. I sell laptops via my website, and as a store owner I know that refurbished doesnt mean "used", often people are confused by the meaning of refurbished and choose not to buy refurbished merchandise bc they think in other words its used and basically has wear and tear and wont last long. Well this isn't the case, Refurbished means that the product has been sent back to the manufactor given the product was simply returned back to a store somewhere or maybe something happened with the product that the owner at the time caused, so it was sent back for that reason, either way before any of this products are ever released back for sell to anyone that are restored 100% back to they way the product was as if it was brand new again. Now that I've explained a little more in detail what "refurbished" means I suggest if you plan on looking into purchasing a new notebook to take a look at our site, as we have some unbeatable deals on a lot of our products! http://computerzenabled.com/oscart I would like to comment that refurbished computers would definately be my pick of choice when having to deside whether to buy new or refurbished. I sell laptops via my website, and as a store owner I know that refurbished doesnt mean “used”, often people are confused by the meaning of refurbished and choose not to buy refurbished merchandise bc they think in other words its used and basically has wear and tear and wont last long. Well this isn't the case, Refurbished means that the product has been sent back to the manufactor given the product was simply returned back to a store somewhere or maybe something happened with the product that the owner at the time caused, so it was sent back for that reason, either way before any of this products are ever released back for sell to anyone that are restored 100% back to they way the product was as if it was brand new again.
Now that I've explained a little more in detail what “refurbished” means I suggest if you plan on looking into purchasing a new notebook to take a look at our site, as we have some unbeatable deals on a lot of our products!
http://computerzenabled.com/oscart

]]> By: Anonymous http://chris.pirillo.com/refurbished-laptops/#comment-19250 Anonymous Thu, 06 Apr 2006 02:22:21 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/03/23/refurbished-laptops/#comment-19250 Refurbished laptops are a great thing. Of course you must make sure the company reconditioning it knows what they are doing, but rarely does a refurbished laptop get returned for malfunction. We have been selling refurbished laptops for several years now and we have less than 2% of them returned because of defect. Refurbished laptops are a great thing. Of course you must make sure the company reconditioning it knows what they are doing, but rarely does a refurbished laptop get returned for malfunction. We have been selling refurbished laptops for several years now and we have less than 2% of them returned because of defect.

]]> By: Anonymous http://chris.pirillo.com/refurbished-laptops/#comment-19249 Anonymous Wed, 05 Apr 2006 05:23:11 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/03/23/refurbished-laptops/#comment-19249 We have been buying refurbished laptops for our company almost every year for the past 6 years and have saved tons of money as opposed to buying new. I would disagree with your comments regarding the reliability of refurbished laptops. Last year we bought 20 IBM ThinkPad T30s for 579 each which IBM sold a year and a half ago, brand new, for 1799. We were able to equip all our sales members and spend a third of what we would usually have to spend brand new. Your comparison of used and new screens doesn't make sense. I personally bought a new T42p from IBM last year and 6 months into it the back light went out on the LCD. IBM ended up replacing the LCD. With the T30s that are older machines, none of the screens have gone out. Buying a used laptop is like buying a car that is 1 year old instead of a brand new one. You don't get hit with the huge depreciation that occurs initially... We have been buying refurbished laptops for our company almost every year for the past 6 years and have saved tons of money as opposed to buying new. I would disagree with your comments regarding the reliability of refurbished laptops. Last year we bought 20 IBM ThinkPad T30s for 579 each which IBM sold a year and a half ago, brand new, for 1799. We were able to equip all our sales members and spend a third of what we would usually have to spend brand new. Your comparison of used and new screens doesn't make sense. I personally bought a new T42p from IBM last year and 6 months into it the back light went out on the LCD. IBM ended up replacing the LCD. With the T30s that are older machines, none of the screens have gone out. Buying a used laptop is like buying a car that is 1 year old instead of a brand new one. You don't get hit with the huge depreciation that occurs initially…

]]> By: oldlaptops http://chris.pirillo.com/refurbished-laptops/#comment-19248 oldlaptops Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:48:45 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/03/23/refurbished-laptops/#comment-19248 www.usedlaptops.com http://www.usedlaptops.com

]]> By: oldlaptops http://chris.pirillo.com/refurbished-laptops/#comment-19247 oldlaptops Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:47:39 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/03/23/refurbished-laptops/#comment-19247 My experience and impression of refurbished laptops is quite different than that of Curtis. After ten years buying, selling and refurbishing laptops we find that the display rarely goes out. When we get the laptops we test each one and they must pass strict standards. Our techs have only work on laptops. We buy from companies, brokers, leasing companes, etc. The laptops come in all sorts of condition, from excellent to poor. When we sell them we rarely get them back. Our warranty is 90 days. If someone only needs a word processor or web machine or e-mail machine there is not need to spend $600 when a $300 or $400 laptop will work just fine. 20,000 laptop refurbished laptops buyers over ten years can't all be wrong! My experience and impression of refurbished laptops is quite different than that of Curtis. After ten years buying, selling and refurbishing laptops we find that the display rarely goes out. When we get the laptops we test each one and they must pass strict standards. Our techs have only work on laptops. We buy from companies, brokers, leasing companes, etc. The laptops come in all sorts of condition, from excellent to poor. When we sell them we rarely get them back. Our warranty is 90 days. If someone only needs a word processor or web machine or e-mail machine there is not need to spend $600 when a $300 or $400 laptop will work just fine. 20,000 laptop refurbished laptops buyers over ten years can't all be wrong!

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