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		<title>By: Moscato51</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/pc-or-mac-for-education/#comment-778118</link>
		<dc:creator>Moscato51</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 10:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,
I have read the email and the resulting comments with much interest. I have worked in primary schools in Australia for many years now the last 8+ years in computer support and as Network Manager both with Windows and Apple computer systems.
My current school is fully Apple on the curriculum side and we may be introducing Windows based computers - possibly Notebooks in the next few years.
Having worked with a Mac system for the past 4 and a half years, I know which system I&#039;d prefer.
Some of the main reasons put forward are:
1. Windows computers are cheaper
2. Students need to be exposed to both systems
3. Most businesses use Windows computers

My responses will be:
1. We need to consider &#039;Total cost of Ownership&#039;. Initial cost of a PC may be cheaper but when you take into account more downtime, extra support for fixing issues etc Macs are a more reliable machine
2. Exactly what part of Windows do the students need to learn? 
We need to educate students about technology and how to use technology in their learning. Skills we need to teach include keyboarding skills and word processing, spreadsheets, multimedia and the Internet etc. 
The next step is to learn how to apply the computer tool, discovering creative ways of using the applications which leads to real learning.
NONE of the above is platform dependent
Future employers look for qualities such as:
Integrity
Good communication skills
Dependability 
Willingness to learn
flexibility
NOT whether a person can use Windows or Macs
This, I&#039;m sure, will lead to further discussion...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />
I have read the email and the resulting comments with much interest. I have worked in primary schools in Australia for many years now the last 8+ years in computer support and as Network Manager both with Windows and Apple computer systems.<br />
My current school is fully Apple on the curriculum side and we may be introducing Windows based computers &#8211; possibly Notebooks in the next few years.<br />
Having worked with a Mac system for the past 4 and a half years, I know which system I&#8217;d prefer.<br />
Some of the main reasons put forward are:<br />
1. Windows computers are cheaper<br />
2. Students need to be exposed to both systems<br />
3. Most businesses use Windows computers</p>
<p>My responses will be:<br />
1. We need to consider &#8216;Total cost of Ownership&#8217;. Initial cost of a PC may be cheaper but when you take into account more downtime, extra support for fixing issues etc Macs are a more reliable machine<br />
2. Exactly what part of Windows do the students need to learn?<br />
We need to educate students about technology and how to use technology in their learning. Skills we need to teach include keyboarding skills and word processing, spreadsheets, multimedia and the Internet etc.<br />
The next step is to learn how to apply the computer tool, discovering creative ways of using the applications which leads to real learning.<br />
NONE of the above is platform dependent<br />
Future employers look for qualities such as:<br />
Integrity<br />
Good communication skills<br />
Dependability<br />
Willingness to learn<br />
flexibility<br />
NOT whether a person can use Windows or Macs<br />
This, I&#8217;m sure, will lead to further discussion&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: HossamSays</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/pc-or-mac-for-education/#comment-653049</link>
		<dc:creator>HossamSays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> sure mac</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sure mac</p>
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		<title>By: Cygnus</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/pc-or-mac-for-education/#comment-650700</link>
		<dc:creator>Cygnus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 23:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, it&#039;s all up to the school in question.

That said, it&#039;s going to be quite up in the air.  Some schools will go Mac, some will go PC.  As for Linux, I think that will happen when an ambitious teacher decides to start putting dual-boots on computers to teach Linux to aspiring power users (such as those in a programming or higher level computers class)

What it will come down to is which company the school district in question has a deal with.  I know for a fact that my old school district for high school gets huge deals from Apple on mac computers.  Thus, all of the schools in the area all have Apple Computers (Yes, even old IIe&#039;s)  If a district got a huge deal from, say, Dell, they&#039;ll have a bunch of Windows-based computers.

I can agree with Chris on a few points:  Computers should be taught from as many angles as possible.  The more angles you understand a computer from, the better you understand them as a whole, regardless of operating system.  I also agree that Linux should be introduced to schools. Perhaps not to people just looking to type up a paper, but getting even mid-level users familiar with a command line, etc. is a step in the right direction, especially with computers becoming ingrained in every aspect of life.

Currently at university for Computer Science Education (for the high school level.) This is something that I seriously have to consider, what am I going to teach when I get into a class room?  Ideally, I do want to teach Linux to higher-level users, but whichever is there, Mac or PC, I will teach as well.  Computers are a thing that people will learn regardless of operating system.  I wouldn&#039;t say one is easier than the other, and I wouldn&#039;t say one is better than the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, it&#8217;s all up to the school in question.</p>
<p>That said, it&#8217;s going to be quite up in the air.  Some schools will go Mac, some will go PC.  As for Linux, I think that will happen when an ambitious teacher decides to start putting dual-boots on computers to teach Linux to aspiring power users (such as those in a programming or higher level computers class)</p>
<p>What it will come down to is which company the school district in question has a deal with.  I know for a fact that my old school district for high school gets huge deals from Apple on mac computers.  Thus, all of the schools in the area all have Apple Computers (Yes, even old IIe&#8217;s)  If a district got a huge deal from, say, Dell, they&#8217;ll have a bunch of Windows-based computers.</p>
<p>I can agree with Chris on a few points:  Computers should be taught from as many angles as possible.  The more angles you understand a computer from, the better you understand them as a whole, regardless of operating system.  I also agree that Linux should be introduced to schools. Perhaps not to people just looking to type up a paper, but getting even mid-level users familiar with a command line, etc. is a step in the right direction, especially with computers becoming ingrained in every aspect of life.</p>
<p>Currently at university for Computer Science Education (for the high school level.) This is something that I seriously have to consider, what am I going to teach when I get into a class room?  Ideally, I do want to teach Linux to higher-level users, but whichever is there, Mac or PC, I will teach as well.  Computers are a thing that people will learn regardless of operating system.  I wouldn&#8217;t say one is easier than the other, and I wouldn&#8217;t say one is better than the other.</p>
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		<title>By: roblinux</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/pc-or-mac-for-education/#comment-650239</link>
		<dc:creator>roblinux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 20:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, i really agree with the Triangle of OS teaching


-LINUX
-WINDOWS
-MAC

very good idea, even though linux has even been trying to be speacialized in education with there &quot;Edubuntu&quot; which unlike most mac/windows that don&#039;t even speacialize in education is completely FREE, which has to be the coolest thing ever about linux. 

Go linux, Go Chris, thanks for listening</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, i really agree with the Triangle of OS teaching</p>
<p>-LINUX<br />
-WINDOWS<br />
-MAC</p>
<p>very good idea, even though linux has even been trying to be speacialized in education with there &#8220;Edubuntu&#8221; which unlike most mac/windows that don&#8217;t even speacialize in education is completely FREE, which has to be the coolest thing ever about linux. </p>
<p>Go linux, Go Chris, thanks for listening</p>
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		<title>By: twgoldwood</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/pc-or-mac-for-education/#comment-648193</link>
		<dc:creator>twgoldwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 07:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> ive never seen a linux computer, and i dont know anyone who uses a mac, but they&#039;re still awesome :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ive never seen a linux computer, and i dont know anyone who uses a mac, but they&#8217;re still awesome :)</p>
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		<title>By: ben9310</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/pc-or-mac-for-education/#comment-638261</link>
		<dc:creator>ben9310</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 02:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> in my school if any one talks about an os or computers its only indows and we only learn about windows dont know why</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in my school if any one talks about an os or computers its only indows and we only learn about windows dont know why</p>
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		<title>By: krazie835</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/pc-or-mac-for-education/#comment-638262</link>
		<dc:creator>krazie835</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 16:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Macs themselves are very expensive, not everyone will be able to gather up $1,500 for a Mac Book O_o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Macs themselves are very expensive, not everyone will be able to gather up $1,500 for a Mac Book O_o</p>
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		<title>By: gtech22</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/pc-or-mac-for-education/#comment-638263</link>
		<dc:creator>gtech22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 05:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> my school thinks that macs are too expensive but i think that they would save alot of time on tech support if they made the switch from windows to mac</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my school thinks that macs are too expensive but i think that they would save alot of time on tech support if they made the switch from windows to mac</p>
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		<title>By: TomIsInDaHouse101</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/pc-or-mac-for-education/#comment-638264</link>
		<dc:creator>TomIsInDaHouse101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> it is a clock</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is a clock</p>
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		<title>By: NinjaOfDeath80</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/pc-or-mac-for-education/#comment-638265</link>
		<dc:creator>NinjaOfDeath80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> i love those lights above the screen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love those lights above the screen</p>
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		<title>By: just2fast4you864</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/pc-or-mac-for-education/#comment-638266</link>
		<dc:creator>just2fast4you864</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 06:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> In the middle of one of my CIS classes the other day, my professor made a joke about a bunch of people who were using MacBooks in class now. He was like: &quot;I think it&#039;s kinda funny that they&#039;re using Macs and their getting a CIS degree...&quot; Why? Why be biased? Seriously...it&#039;s dumb. A college computer course shouldn&#039;t have a biased professor and they should teach MAC, PC, &amp; LINUX! Hell, even my operating systems class doesn&#039;t teach OSX. WTF? Get a clue, half the university is using them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the middle of one of my CIS classes the other day, my professor made a joke about a bunch of people who were using MacBooks in class now. He was like: &#8220;I think it&#8217;s kinda funny that they&#8217;re using Macs and their getting a CIS degree&#8230;&#8221; Why? Why be biased? Seriously&#8230;it&#8217;s dumb. A college computer course shouldn&#8217;t have a biased professor and they should teach MAC, PC, &#038; LINUX! Hell, even my operating systems class doesn&#8217;t teach OSX. WTF? Get a clue, half the university is using them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: NeoMasterpt</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/pc-or-mac-for-education/#comment-638267</link>
		<dc:creator>NeoMasterpt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> in Portugal schools use linux and windows 


apple no way


i&#039;m an apple user and i can&#039;t understand why they don&#039;t teacher macs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in Portugal schools use linux and windows </p>
<p>apple no way</p>
<p>i&#8217;m an apple user and i can&#8217;t understand why they don&#8217;t teacher macs</p>
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		<title>By: maksymperepichka</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/pc-or-mac-for-education/#comment-638268</link>
		<dc:creator>maksymperepichka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> well i use pc and i preffer it. Way more stuff you can do on a pc then on a mac. Im not saying that mac is bad but just that pc is more advanced and has more software for it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well i use pc and i preffer it. Way more stuff you can do on a pc then on a mac. Im not saying that mac is bad but just that pc is more advanced and has more software for it</p>
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		<title>By: DaKidBanks101</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/pc-or-mac-for-education/#comment-638269</link>
		<dc:creator>DaKidBanks101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> i use my mac just for my ipod and my pc for the important stuff... =D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i use my mac just for my ipod and my pc for the important stuff&#8230; =D</p>
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		<title>By: youtubeuser</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/pc-or-mac-for-education/#comment-638270</link>
		<dc:creator>youtubeuser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Not true.  As a matter of fact of the 10 schools I&#039;ve been to.  I&#039;ve worked in 5 of them.  They all have PC&#039;s.  Not one single Mac.  I think if there is a Mac that it would most likely be in the Art Dept.  I think it depends on the technology department of the school district what computers they have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not true.  As a matter of fact of the 10 schools I&#8217;ve been to.  I&#8217;ve worked in 5 of them.  They all have PC&#8217;s.  Not one single Mac.  I think if there is a Mac that it would most likely be in the Art Dept.  I think it depends on the technology department of the school district what computers they have.</p>
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