Paypal markets itself as Safe and secure, but it doesn’t protect you as it should like a credit card. There should be federal laws enacted that if Paypal wants to maket itself as an alternative to credit cards, they should be forced to protect you like credit cards.

iTunes is even more to blame…why can’t it rescind the gift card and just put the credit in your account? This way Apple doesn’t lose any money but the thief doesn’t profit from it. At least you get the song downloads.

Since most of its songs are DRM protected, why can’t it know which songs were bought with the fraudulent gift card and deactivate those songs. If it’s with an account where this happens too much deactivate the account, the iPod and ALL DOWNLOADS.

I wrote a letter to the BBB and the reply from Apple was call the FTC and report Identity Fraud (not the case) and go handle it through your credit card (not the case). So the BBB Ombusman from Apple gave me the same canned response that the general customer service rep.

Apple is letting blatant fraud go on on their website and they are doing NOTHING about it. They are part and parcel to this…my God, this is Class Action lawsuit territory. In my opinion, Apple aids and abets fraud on their website. They profit from fraudulent activity because they do nothing to stop it. They hide behind fine print and reply on other entities outside their direct control to solve your problems.

Personally, I used Paypal for outside transactions…no more. Outside of eBay transactions. Paypal is done. No more fees from me outside of eBay (because, also I HAVE NO CHOICE). Which means eBay will suffer also.

Apple? They are done. No more iPods, NEVER an iPhone. I was considering a Mac Pro or a Macbook; NOT ANYMORE. You want to shaft me out of $50. Fine you just LOST MY BUSINESS and I will tell everyone this story, to never buy an iPod, use iTunes or use an Apple product. Use Amazon MP3 Downloads, no DRM and Amazon actually has customer service. Buy a Zune or use any other device.

I suggest other people who have had this happen to them to spread the word and boycott Apple and Paypal (and eBay) while you are at it.

here’s my itunes fraudulent purchases story posted in the geeks forums:
http://geeks.pirillo.com/forum/topics/i-got-ripped-off-by-some

Today PayPal responded by as to others ‘tough-sh*t’ and that was expected since it was clearly an Apple iTunes security issue.

I’ve emailed a polite and factual email to sjobs@apple.com and I do not expect a response. I also, plan on filing a police report and a complaint with my state attorney general. Anything else I should do to get this resolved?

Thanks! C

Apple have piss-poor security, your PayPal account is set up to allow auto-billing from Apple and somehow you still think the Sun shine’s out of Steve Jobs’ arse!

A normal person might stop and think for a minute… “Hey, this company which I worship is actually pretty shite, they allow anyone who knows my date of birth to access my password. That’s a really stupid mistake they made. Hell, I’m never going to buy from this shitty overpriced company again!”

Alas, not you. You continue to evangalise them.

I wish stupid people like you the worst punishment I can think of… working in one of the sweatshops where your Apple products are made!

On a separate note, while PayPal is far from perfect (what company is?), we do generally care about trying to keep our customers happy in disputes. Often these are lose/lose situations, but we really do our best to try to ensure that they can be turned around. This particular case was a great example of a situation that in fact was resolved completely in the customer’s favor.

This is Apple’s fault. Not PayPal’s. You need to contact Apple into giving you a refund.

(And this is from someone who hates dealing w/ PayPal).

>_> Stupid PayPal!!!

Mark Hopkins – “I’ve lost about $7,000 over the years to PayPal.”
O_O omfg! thats total bull(**censored**)