Maxthon 2.0 Problems
Maxthon 2.0 is out of beta, and I still feel that it has a long row to hoe before it’s anywhere near as stable or configurable as Maxthon 1.x was for me. There are a few frustrations that keep me from recommending it over earlier versions. I’m confident these issues can be addressed quickly, but it really shows how Maxthon needs a VERY strong English developer working inside the code (cleaning up grammar, wording, features, etc.).
- SHIFT+CTRL+Tab dosen’t work.
- Seems to be a massive visual delay in tab switching when you use F2 or F3 to switch between them quickly.
- Tab bar view doesn’t work nearly as well as it did in Maxthon 2.x, despite the various settings I’ve tried. I can’t get the widths to remain constant – and even when I have Multiline Tabs enabled, it stretches the actual tab width and keeps the title of the Tab at a fixed length as defined by the settings.
- The bright yellow color for secure URLs in the address bar is headache-inducing, and not configurable in any manner.
- I have launched Maxthon 2.0 several times, only to have it randomly ask me to enter my login credentials – not having remembered them from earlier sessions, or having cleared them and forcing me to re-enter them before I can start browsing again. This is a great concept if it works – but it seems not to be working.
- I’ve had my toolbar icons and settings randomly reset order on several occasions. This is more than mildly frustrating.
- I went to customize my toolbar again today, only to have the application lock up and flash between the settings window and the browser window almost indefinitely before letting me control the settings dialog again (a minute later). Couldn’t decide which one it wanted me to focus on somehow.
- The new form fill manager is an improvement, fundamentally – but there’s virtually no management tool to port over and pare down my exhaustive list of forms and logins. This causes the entire browser to freeze for seconds whenever I store new login information. This is more than mildly annoying.
- Settings dialogs for most of my plugins don’t seem to work?
- Some advanced settings are still not working, as they’re greyed out in the options panel.
- Super MSA is an amazing feature – but you can’t enable it automatically, but only on a site-by-site basis. This is a half-baked feature, and one they should be pushing to finish.
- There needs to be a universal style sheet for sidebar plugins – because most of these plugin developers can’t design to save their lives. Contrast this with the elegance of the Maxthon Setup Center (a beautiful experience).
- The Float Button setting seems not to work as advertised. Which is to say, it doesn’t work. The old Floating plugin (community plugin) was far better behaved.
- The inline “Find” applet is woefully inadequate compared to its established predecessors (community plugins) from Maxthon 1.x.
- I really shouldn’t see Chinese content on the Maxthon plugins site… it’s a HUGE turnoff, and is going to lose you more people to Firefox. I can’t read Chinese, and the plugins are far less useful to me if there’s no English equivalent (or they’re language neutral).
- The skinning engine may have improved, but much like the Firefox community, there are few usable designs. I’m less perturbed about this, as the new default Maxthon UI is pretty slick (overall, as a shell).
- Tab shortcut doesn’t work between the address bar and the search bar. You have to rely on another keyboard shortcut (takes relearning rather than intuition).
- Right-click and scroll wheel do not show open tabs like they did in 1.x.
- CTRL+Q is a nice feature, but too slow to load thumbnails if you have a lot of tabs open.
- You can’t close tabs from the same site.
- I was merely restarting Maxthon from its icon and before the window showed up: “An error has occurred. Please send the bug report to us after browser restart. Fault address: 005075B3 01:001065B3 C:\Program Files\Maxthon2\Maxthon.exe.” I have no idea what this means, or why this happened. This has happened 3x in the past hour.
- Launching an empty browser (no start page, not even about:blank) seems to have window (UI) artifacts in the lower left and upper right corners of the window.
- Launching an empty browser (no start page, not even about:blank) shows “fav: Query Version OK.RemoteVersion 3,LocalVersion 3″ in the status bar. I have no idea what this means or why it’s showing up.
- Sidebar management is really wonky, as new sidebars don’t stack inline with existing sidebars if the sidebar is not already open. Instead, the user has to drag the new sidebar around until it docks and merges with the existing sidebar plugins list. Moreover, there’s no easy way of cleaning up the icons in some of these plugins (another major downfall when allowing developers to create anything without adhering to some set of standards or design elements).
- You can’t change tab switching behavior – CTRL+Tab should toggle between the two most recently viewed tabs.
- There’s (that I can find).
- The “Plugins Optinos” tab is not dynamic, so you must refresh the window after new plugins are loaded. Moreover, there are no sort options (Date, Author, Type, Alphabetical, etc.).
- You can’t uninstall or disable a plugin by clicking on its icon.
- When opening a new tab, either blank or a URL, it seems as though the current tab’s contents slide slightly downward and to the right before the new tab fully loads. It’s a visual side effect that seems to be a flaw.
- Favicon loading is problematic again – which was a bug filed for 1.x, but has returned with a vengeance in 2.0. Instead of adhering to the favicon defined by the current page, Maxthon 2.0 trumps it and pulls the root icon (if one is even defined there). This is a gross oversight.
- Open all links in selection while performing Super Drag & Drop is still not functioning.
- I keep coming back to the bugs in the Tab bar, but it’s really starting to annoy me. Instead of a solid positioning of tabs (1st tab is always in one position), it flips lines of tabs (in Multiline mode), much like you would expect it to do if you were using a Settings dialog. However, I’m not expecting this here – and I’m certainly not wanting this.
- In writing this list, my toolbar formatting has decided to reset itself once again (and I have to go in and re-add the tab management buttons that I had previously placed and right-aligned).
- Auto-Fit Tabs setting does not adhere to my Minimum width setting, and (again) causes usability problems when many tabs are open at one time. Seems they’re trying to make tab management easier, but have bungled the process.
- Despite setting Maxthon 2 as my default browser, some links (clicked from utilities like mIRC) are opening in Maxthon 1.
- In a browser that has an empty start page (and no other tabs open), new pages open on a new tab rather than the first (blank, empty) tab.
They have quite a few things to work on here, and I don’t know where their priorities happen to lie – or how many developers they have actively working on these issues. Not sure if they’re short-staffed, or seemingly don’t understand that these problems take away from the overall experience in what they’ve assembled in a browser.
I will make myself available to any and every Maxthon core or plugin developer to help make this a better experience for everyone.
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15 Comments
The Marsh Log
October 21st, 2007
at 4:15pm
I am currently using Maxthon version 1.6.1 yet version 2.0 is now ready for download. They just finished the beta testing. I am going to wait until they get some kinks out of it. You can read about some of the issues of 2.0 atChris Pirillo’s site. To download Maxthon Click Here
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November 9th, 2009
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izotov
October 8th, 2007
at 9:45am
Maxthon 2.0 Problems2007.10.08. 00:22 Chris Pirillo sztahanov
abc@home
July 25th, 2007
at 12:51am
Thanks for review. A very good list to start with for the finishing touches.
Kent Smith
July 26th, 2007
at 3:21am
No offense meant, but after complaining that Maxthon 2.0 is in need of “cleaning up grammar, wording” etc., it’s pretty funny that you’d have a long list of complaints spotted with misspellings, bad grammar, missing words and out-and-out mistakes (you’ve got to decide whether you’re talking about Maxthon 2.0 or 1.x — your use of the labels is a bit arbitrary a couple of times).
Craig Robinett
July 26th, 2007
at 4:31am
Thanks for your insights.
I recently have stopped using Maxthon myself. I have been using K-Meleon and have found it to be a very lightweight and effecient web browser. It is an open source program. You may want to take a look at it yourself.
Nick Moscato
July 26th, 2007
at 5:08am
Chris,
I have been using Maxthon 2 since the first public beta and use it as my primary browser at home and work. I also have my issues with it (no CTRL+N for a new tab being a big one and the lack of support for anything other than US English) but have to say that I haven’t had the crashing that you describe, nor the Favicon problems. Overall am very happy with 2 but agree that it has a long way to go before I absolutely love it like 1.x.
Some of the things that you describe such as the sidebar & plugins issues I think that I’ve seen talked about it the forums.
As for the signing in, this is something that I remember from the early releases but was changed so that you could choose to ignore this but that had to be chosen at install. Again, check the forums
Whatever they do / don’t do it’s still better than IE7 (which my wife uses – I can’t get here to use Maxthon – go fig) and will continue to use & support it…unless something REALLY good comes along (and Firefox ain’t it).
Mike Butcher
July 26th, 2007
at 5:53am
I’ve been using Maxthon since MyIE and I cannot use anything else without suffering exreme frustration. It’s true that Maxthon 2.0 is bit buggy but I still prefer it to Maxthon 1. I had the same error message as Chris and found out that it was because I used “open a folder of favorites” when starting up, but had done some favorite management and I had moved the links. Maxthon in general IS for people who know their way around computers as for example the various popup blockers and filters can prevent pages loading and you have to be prepared to overide them.
Some people simply cannot handle the tab way of working. I personally open everything in new tab but some friends using my computer simply don’t get it. I love it, even just for dragging text to search. Firefox or Opera do very little for me.
Britto Arthur
July 26th, 2007
at 6:03am
One more… you can never open multiple instances of Maxthon2.
Bill @ Racine
July 26th, 2007
at 6:43am
I too have tried several RCs of Maxthon 2 and found it to be a bitter dissapointment over Maxthon 1.x I don’t know why they changed things around so much. The whole UI seems more like IE 7 which I really can’t stand.
Dave
July 26th, 2007
at 6:55am
Keep Maxthon 1xxx for now, I update Maxthon2 everytime a new one rolls around and see all the problems too, but then I close it and wait.
In the meantime v1 is running just fine….dont quite know why they started the new one in the first place.
Using the security control plug-in button with scripts,java and active-x turned off in Maxthons settings makes it pretty secure, then if you know your on a safe site that needs those, hit the button![configure it properly first].
qqryq
July 26th, 2007
at 3:02pm
Maxthon is wonderful! But the 2.0 is buggy. Right. I confirm most of your observations. And those crazy tabs make me feel crazy.
Gordon McCracken
July 26th, 2007
at 10:40pm
I have just quit using Maxthon 1.6.1 (Build 22) 2007-5-31
Because after closing the browser, Maxthon runs in the background using 90 to 100% of the CPU. Only way I can stop it is to go to Task Manager and clost it there. If Maxthon 2.x has all these bugs….Goodbye Maxthon for me!
Robin
July 30th, 2007
at 1:07pm
I agree with you Chris. For me both version 1 and 2 have been working quite poorly in terms of CPU and memory usage. I used MyIE since 0.7 and was very happy with it while it lasted (0.9.27). It seems that they lost a good developer when they started to develop Maxthon.
If you still want to play with IE based browsers, you might want to give a try to GreenBrowser (http://www.morequick.com/indexen.htm) and AcooBrowser (http://www.acoobrowser.com/).
Robin
July 31st, 2007
at 4:34am
Uhm.. what ever happened to my last comment? Moderated? Why??