Making the Case for Windows

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Chris Pirillo »Making the Case for WindowsPosted 4 hours ago

I thought you already posted this message earlier.

Repeating yourself?

You’re repeating yourself!!!

You already posted this message.

I like to use Personal Computers that have an open architecture and are flexible and has many other users using it around the world. That means the Windows XP/Vista platform is my main computer of choice.

My second choice is Linux, especially the Ubuntu distribution. It is improving everyday and is becoming easier to use and most of all it is very stable and fast and free to use with great reliability compared to all other operating systems for personal computers.
Efficient and no nonsense is what Linux is all about.

I used to own a PowerBook over 10 years ago and found it was expensive and odd to use. It is more of a niche platform for the creative-minded folks. I have never gone back to the Macintosh systems since. And I don’t miss it one bit.

thing is, many of the “business applications” developers don’t provide mac versions – I know that the 2 main ones that we use at work (sage, saleslogix) don’t as well as other spurious things such as the vpn client that is used for our firewall still doesn’t have a mac version (I have complained to watchguard about this) and the free vpn clients that are available for the mac can’t get past phase 1 due to not supporting the way our firewall negotiates *growl*

However, this doesn’t mean that, if it is being used within a business you can’t use remote desktop and connect to a windows terminal server to do this.

However, this does begin to reach the next point as to why a mac can be a bit of a pain in the ass in a business environment where it is predominantly windows based – you can’t add a mac to active directory and so it increases the support needed, especially as many remote admin tools such as dameware don’t have apple clients.

Then there’s the added issue of IT worker knowledge of the platform.. I’m the only guy in my IT dept that has any mac experience, so all of the support whenever a mac turns up ends up in my lap.

As a full time Linux user, I agree 100% on all points.

However, I would point out that unless the very latest version has made massive changes, Cedega sucks toes. Yes, it is true that it does use less resources, but not without its fair share of tweaking. Some games run perfectly with no intervention, many do not though.

Here is the WoW forum for Cedega – the titles speak for themselves…
http://tinyurl.com/2qqsf8

My favorite: “I have WoW working better in free Wine, than in paid Cedega”

I’d trade my dell inspiron 6400 with windows vista ultimate for a mac laptop !

I use OS X, because I think the OS is easier to use, better looking, but more importantly, it’s more productive.

Most software design decisions Apple seems have made lately are about efficiency more than wowing the user, it just so happens when these decisions are based around a clean simple look they usually any up looking cool.

Whereas with Vista, if you take flip 3D for example, is seems to be more about trying to “wow” people than being efficient.

Sure flip 3D looks cool, but it doesn’t get the work done as quickly as exposé, it seems to me that exposé was conceived through a lot more deep thought, the “wow” part is just a by-product of the results, the visual isn’t wowing people, the result is, and whether or not you want to admit it, results are what matter in the end.

A lot of PC users call people who flaunt the Mac fanboys, but what they are missing it that all of them have experience with Windows, and most of them are “switchers”. They have seen how both aspects are done, and they seem to like they way Apple does it, you’ve got to wonder why? Well I know why, but as a PC user, you surely wonder.

The only exception I’d make is if you are a hardcore PC gamer, I genuinely think for everyone else Mac is a better recommendation. I’d never tell someone they have to switch, cause I don’t care if they do, but I’m glad I did.

Hehe, this comment will start a bit of arguing…

WINDOWS FTW!

lol at 8:36 of this vid, there are more people uing the mac who are older 60~above…i saw a bunch of old people around the apple store!!
I am not kidding!!

WoW on linux… Say it ain’t so! :P

I can’t believe no one touched on the fact that you can run just about any OS on the new Intel based Mac’s. I have been setting up clients with dual boot Macs running Mac OSX and Windows XP and they run Windows so flawlessly and fast that I am considering ditching my Compaq laptop for a MacBook! Then I can enjoy Leopard in all its glory or boot to Windows when I need to slum back down again!!

dog and linux. hahah

Office for Mac sux though.

Sorry, not only hardcore games are on PS2. If you want to play any FPS online worth playing, windows PC is the way to go. And no, Halo 3 isn’t even worthy of the acclaim it’s getting.

Windows gained popularity because of it Business Market and Business applications.
Mac, on the other hand, has marketed it’s product to home users.
Well, the lines are blurred anymore.
Same goes for Linux.
It’s 3 different automobile manufacturers.
One makes Fast cars, one makes efficient cars, One makes luxury automobiles.
Well, you see how that is all changing.

Yeah ps2 doesnt have much fps, but in all the other categories Ps2 kills Pc. I hate Halo, Im talking about a wide range of games hardcore gamers need not just FPS. I mean playing GTA 3 a year or 2 years later on a pc ridiculous. I enjoy games like ICO and Shadow of Colossus games that will never ever be on a PC. To be a hardcore gamer you have to play al kinds of games not just sport and Fps games thats not hardcore that justs what average joes do.

Gee, you’re really smart Chris. Now, let’s see; how do I come up with enough money to buy a MAC? I believe I’ll stick with XP and Vista as my $500 computer will run them both just fine! Of course, I built my own system. You can’t do that with a MAC!

i thought i subscribed to a pc newsletter……i didn’t know it was a mac newsletter.

People should be aware, of course, that the case for *Windows* is not, for the moment, the same as a case for *Vista* — for which we should all be quite thankful.

I grew up using an Apple, being that they were the most popular. The only reason I opted for a Windows PC was because of software called MathCad, which only ran on Windows 3.1. Ever since then, that was all you ever heard about. Windows, Windows, Windows. I haven’t really used a Mac since, but my boss laughed when I said that the Mac Taskbar looked just like the one on Windows.

the guy with the scottish accent is a dumb ass, who doesn’t know shit about any OS at all.

I really think if you’re a hardcore gamer, you would own every system including pc anyways.

I think mac is good but the people who recommend it were fanboys.

I grew up using an Apple, being that they were the most popular. The only reason I opted for a Windows PC was because of software called MathCad, which only ran on Windows 3.1. Ever since then, that was all you ever heard about. Windows, Windows, Windows. I haven’t really used a Mac since, but my boss laughed when I said that the Mac Taskbar looked just like the one on Windows.

the guy with the scottish accent is a dumb ass, who doesn’t know shit about any OS at all.

I really think if you’re a hardcore gamer, you would own every system including pc anyways.

Then get better software like NewOffice(for free), or Apple’s iWork

I think mac is good but the people who recommend it were fanboys.

I would probably get a ps3 or xbox 360 for gaming… if i didnt have to go buy a $4000 HD tv to play them. i know you dont need one… but its not that good without a HD tv.

Or just save up a lot of money and buy a $6000 PC hahaha

Even with games that were not originally designed to be played online may now be able to be played online using 3rd party clients. An excellent example is GTA3/VC/SA.

Even with games that were not originally designed to be played online may now be able to be played online using 3rd party clients. An excellent example is GTA3/VC/SA. Also through the use of emulators a pc can play just about any game ever made for any computer including the PS2.

Then get better software like NewOffice(for free), or Apple’s iWork

I’m not a video editor but lets not forget that there are PC alternatives to Final Cut Pro like Adobe Premier Pro. I do however write, record and produce music using Steinberg’s Cubase SX2 with XP. Mac and Windows OS’s are just as productive as each other its just that like the rest of the world audio software is written for Windows, especially freeware. lol on a different note, Youtube’s spell checker is hideously crap, it even cant get Youtube’s right.

I would probably get a ps3 or xbox 360 for gaming… if i didnt have to go buy a $4000 HD tv to play them. i know you dont need one… but its not that good without a HD tv.

Or just save up a lot of money and buy a $6000 PC hahaha

Even with games that were not originally designed to be played online may now be able to be played online using 3rd party clients. An excellent example is GTA3/VC/SA.

Even with games that were not originally designed to be played online may now be able to be played online using 3rd party clients. An excellent example is GTA3/VC/SA. Also through the use of emulators a pc can play just about any game ever made for any computer including the PS2.

I’m not a video editor but lets not forget that there are PC alternatives to Final Cut Pro like Adobe Premier Pro. I do however write, record and produce music using Steinberg’s Cubase SX2 with XP. Mac and Windows OS’s are just as productive as each other its just that like the rest of the world audio software is written for Windows, especially freeware. lol on a different note, Youtube’s spell checker is hideously crap, it even cant get Youtube’s right.

PC > Consoles. (gaming)

2 big things about this blog….

Price is always a factor… Why buy a mac and then have to port a lot of things using parrells or whatever else when you can buy a pc with windows for about half the cost anymore.

The other thing also is, im a web designer I run into a lot of applications that support the mac and a lot that dont and a lot of microsoft apps for instance sharepoint and whatever. For me to move to a mac I either have to figure out if the programs i use will work or figure out how to port them each over individually to work (wine or whatever else). if they dont port I either have to keep a windows machine around for everything i want to do or figure out how to use a new piece of software to do the same thing im already doing with a windows machine. Its a huge adjustment that takes a lot of time, time that i dont always have.

PC > Consoles. (gaming)

I would too, since the mac laptop cost more.

I would too, since the mac laptop cost more.

He’s Irish, not Scottish.

Why is it they keep saying Macs are overpriced. THEY’RE NOT OVERPRICED, they’re just a bit more than what one can afford. If anything, Macs are cheaper than WinPCs in the long run.

yeah, um, didn’t think i was that old. Be kind rewind, I remember!

Not really, thats a broad statement. Theres a huge market for PC’s, which means they are mass produced which keeps prices more competitive. Mac’s are just Mac’s nothing really special about them they just look sleek for the consumer. Now the higher end Macs used for Video editing thats different but no one can afford it.

Windows’s design is inefficient. Take a look at the comparison spec requirements between Vista and Mac OS X. Vista requires more hardware and would force users to upgrade hardware just to be able to run it. Now answer this, how is it that an old PowerMac G4 is able to run Mac OS X Tiger?

yes really…count resale value.

hell, i used to rent BETA MAX. my first pc was an ibm pc jr.
i loved teh commador64. and atari 2600.

the menu at top is better.. i think. more universal. if it was in the window how would you pick teh finder menu from the desktop without opening a window.

blogs . zdnet . com/hardware/?p=875

Just remove spaces between.

your gay, mac is for gay’s.

I think Chris gave good answers. I dual boot XP and Linux so I enjoy the advantages of both.

ok u can’t say that gaming and compatibility will make u stick with pcs. Just use windows on your mac

Hyper super expensive Mac hardware, you can get better Windows hardware for the same price.

Mas are for personal use-I-wanna-live-on-my-own computers….. not really versatile. Not even used in Business.

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