Comments on: Mac OS X Leopard Community Commentary

By: C.G. Mankey

C.G. Mankey — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:54:29 +0000

Hey, Chris Mankey, I’ve got something I’d like to talk to you about. Email me when you get a chance.

By: Chris Mankey

Chris Mankey — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:52:51 +0000

“6) I can do instant video chat, make podcasts,make my own video, look at system-hogging widgets and look at photos. – You can do all that with a PC, out of the box.”

Gee, you can do all that on a mac….out of the box! Never heard of ilife?

By: Chris Mankey

Chris Mankey — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:47:10 +0000

“*yawn*. .. take it easy. It’s an OS.

One that no one I know has touched since … grade school.”

Which in your case was just a few years ago!

By: Alex

Alex — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:06:33 +0000

1. People bitching about DRM, games are geeks or thiefs and so don’t have the right to say anything. Who needs to put there music on more than 5 computers ( and unlimited ipods if i’m right) ?
Gamers can buy dedicated consoles, oh but wait you have to pay for them…
the biggest games are available on mac ( wow anyone ? )

2. People saying that they can found the same applications for a new pc than a mac or can build they’re own computer for less have IT knowledge. Not everybody has the time nor want to learn all this.

3. Linux is great and all but its too complicate for 99% of the world.

4. You can develop professional applications on mac. Oracle JDeveloper, Netbeans…. There’s gonna be more and more a huge demand for Mac software and not a lot of programmers -> more money.

By: gunslinger

gunslinger — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:04:40 +0000

to: James Bailey

If the Mac specs were different I could see your point, but they use the exact same parts. Same CPU, same RAM, and then add a 40% mark up to that RAM. I think for the most part people that just have to have a Mac are the same people that have to ware name brand clothes (pretentious arrogant little pricks) they think if they spend more, they get more. You can argue that OS X is better than vista if you like, and I’ll agree with you. But don’t try to say the hardware is better now that Macs are Intel based. I’d bet 80-90% of the parts inside those two systems are interchangeable, the parts that matter anyway (CPU, RAM, video card, ect). When all else is the same your are buying a name, and thats the bottom line.

By: Jon

Jon — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:31:42 +0000

Transactional Analysis postulates that for effective communication to take place it must be on an appropriate level. Well, you succeeded in lowering yourself to their level that’s for sure. Even to the point you lived in a glass house and threw stones – by this I point out your attack on the user will poor spelling and grammar when you had your fair share of grammatical foo-pahs sprinkled throughout. Seriously Chris – you *are* starting to sound like an Apple fanboi. Jealous? Me? Hell no – I bought my MacBook Pro a while back and enjoy using BOTH systems – each to use for what they excel at. Your definition of a fanboi is skewed. A fanboi is a more modern version of the word “apologist”. You take a couple of the comments to task for daring to suggest that perceived lacks in Apple’s offerings were _their_ fault – not Apple’s. Sorry bud. You’re off base on this one. A need is a need, a want is a want. If Apple decides that a feature isn’t economically feasible ore desirable from other standpoints then they have to the right to offer or not offer said features with no apologies – but is *is* their decision on what features are included. Now just because somebody wants that feature – or even absolutely *needs* it isn’t Apple’s fault – it’s nobody’s fault – it is what it is – a desire or need. Get it? No need to finger point on either side. Now a feature omission like the stated 2 button trackpad is very high on Job’s list of “things I want my way to hell with what other people think” list – but that’s his call. In spite of the fact that a HUGE number of people have stated they would like this feature. It is not the fault of these people to want the feature – they after all are spending their money and would like for things to be the way that they want them. Is it Steve’s fault for not giving it to them? No – fault isn’t the right word – decision is much more appropriate. By the way – I took to the two-finger method like a fish to water – about 90% of the time. The other 10% it is awkward in some apps like Photoshop – but hey – I’ll adapt.
So. Chris. Yo. Bud. Lighten up. Be a beacon not just another butthead. ;-)

By: richie

richie — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 04:51:12 +0000

i have the new macbook pro 17″ 200gb hd 3gb ram glossy hd screen awsome mac nothing compairs then i go to school im 16 and no parents did not buy a 3,500 dollar computer for me i got it with my own money that i work hard for beacuse it a great all arond system. it gets me so angry when somone says i need a new computer what should i get i say mac cause they rock and as every one knows they are the best lol but there is always some kid that goes no dont get a mac they suck dells are the best i just wanna stab them cause i have 2 dell notebooks and i had to combine them to make one run because as soon as my warinie was up nothin butt problems and everyone knows that the only reason people hate macs is because they cannot aford to pay for them but lets see viris software needed none thats $0 msn preiums 0 cause ichat and lots more its so easy to use to when i go to school my school has all dell stuff servers desktops laptops everything it all sux and windows is so hard to use after using a mac and i have this to say and you can qoute me “i use windows because i have to,but i use MAC because i want to” by me Richie Corcoran 16 years old

By: gunslinger

gunslinger — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 02:22:59 +0000

Chris states the difference in Mac programs is they just work and are painless. I think the difference is if they don’t work on a mac you are screwed. With a PC you can choose maybe 200-300 other programs that do the same thing and find the one you like best.

By: Paul

Paul — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 01:59:49 +0000

To Chris S. I thought the same thing before buying my MacbookPro, I was beginning graphic design at my college. I figured I would just install XP Pro and use BootCamp and only use XP Pro unless for class. Well, I get it, love OSX, never got XP Pro, and have no problems finding software. Now, as for the widgets, that just seems like a dumb reason to not get something as great as a Mac, honestly, WIth 2gigs of RAM and a 2.2 Core2Duo, having 5-10 widgets open isn’t going to slow you down. I just see people such as yourself leaving comments such as the thoughts I had before getting my Mac, and I cant believe I thought that now that I have mine

By: Paul

Paul — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 01:53:42 +0000

All I can say is, although I am a bigger fan of Macs, they are finally going to get Microsoft to get into gear. Microsoft became a monopoly by luck, because IBM took a chance and they didn’t. Since then, Microsoft hasn’t had to try. Now that Apple is catching up (Linux flavor of your choice too) Microsoft is going to actually have to kick it into gear. Now I can see Microsoft having a problem with this because for years they have spent more time stealing other’s products and making them look like their own rather than innovating themselves, we might see a worthy product out of them, we might not. Either way I don’t care because I am a PC-to-Mac convert for 6 months now and loving it.

By: Glenn

Glenn — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 01:30:56 +0000

For me Vista was the tipping point. I tried to wait for Leopard, but my homebuilt PC died in April and I couldn’t wait 6 months for a new computer. In June my wife’s PC died, so I bought her a MacBook also. She doesn’t complain about it like she did her old PC.

I will support my local Apple dealer and buy a Leopard Family Pack, when they are in stock.

By: James Bailey

James Bailey — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 01:16:16 +0000

To gunslinger, this is probably going to sound a bit harsh but I don’t really mean it that way. Apple really doesn’t want your business if you can’t afford the premium for a Macbook. They don’t want to produce low cost computers. They have minimum standards and refuse to produce computers of less quality. Don’t get me wrong, the extra cost (especially if you buy memory from Apple) is not all put toward quality but much of it is. You are also paying extra for smaller and thinner laptops and other innovations. If those things aren’t important to you and OS X isn’t enticing, by all means keep using your Dell with Windows or Linux. No one is going to make you switch. For many of us, and the number appears to be growing rapidly, the advantages of OS X and Apple hardware easily make up the difference in cost.

It is entirely possible that the–we only sell premium products–attitude on the part of Apple will change in the future but right now they are making more money than ever so they aren’t going to change any time soon.

By: Chris Hockey

Chris Hockey — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:15:54 +0000

Less “addressing the reponses”, and more fuelling a flame war there Chris. Since when did calling someone an Idiot become part of a cogent argument?

Since your conversion to Apple you’ve become much less readable than before. While I realise you’ve put yourself in position of vulnerability to fanboys by your switch and consequently sometimes have to descend to their level, I much prefer your less vehement writing style from before your damascian conversion.

By: Ken

Ken — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:49:26 +0000

Regarding Paul’s comments that 10.4 doesn’t support Java 5 on his “G17″ (whatever that might be)….you really don’t know what you’re talking about, do you? Let’s see what the horrible people at Apple with their lousy support and their “(want java 5? Upgrade, because osx 10.4 doesn’t and never will support java 5)” attitude have to say about Java on 10.4:

“Java for Mac OS X 10.4, Release 5 delivers improved reliability and compatibility for Java 2 Platform Standard Edition 5.0 and Java 1.4 on Mac OS X 10.4.8 and later. This release updates J2SE 5.0 to version 1.5.0_07 and Java 1.4 to version 1.4.2_12. It also improves SWT compatibility for J2SE 5.0.”

Hmmm…that sure says it’s J2SE 5! And it also keeps the 1.4 environment at the same time, to allow deployment tests against multiple versions. I think the only impediment to your ability to earn money is a colossal lack of skill. And/or intellectual integrity. Take your pick.

By: Chris S

Chris S — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:31:54 +0000

What is it with Apple? Are they desperate or something? No wonder, because they only own 10% of the computer market. I find their “Reasons” to switch to a Mac really stupid and the only people that believe that list of false information are delusional.

1) No Viruses on a Mac. – Ever heard of a Firewall?

You can get Nortans Internet Security package for $49 a year and it solves 95% of all your PC problems.

2) You can run Windows on a Mac. – Do you know how much it will cost to do so?

3) It’s simpler. – Bull****. If someone can’t understand between 4 Vista packages then they either have mental problems or they’re dumb. The only difference between each package is a small amount software, that’s it.

4) Macs can run Microsoft Office. – So can a PC, actually years before a Mac could, and the PC people get the new versions first, as well.

5) No upgrade nightmares. – All you have to do is look at the back of the box for the minimum and recommended system requirements. Is it that hard? For Apple it might be.

6) I can do instant video chat, make podcasts,make my own video, look at system-hogging widgets and look at photos. – You can do all that with a PC, out of the box.

7) No hunting for drivers. – All hardware usually come with a CD with the drivers on it. Also, Windows detects most hardware without the software.

8) A Mac Pro is powerful. – Indeed it is powerful, but a Windows PC can be more powerful with a cheaper price tag. I mean come on, there’s absolutely no point whatsoever in buying a Mac Pro with that kind of spec. Firstly, there’s no games on a Mac that would use up a 1/10 of that hardware, and developers use Windows XP because developing software, like 3ds Max, doesn’t support the Mac OS.

In my opinion, there’s no reason to get a Mac whatsoever. All you need is Windows with a good Internet Security package and there you go. My PC came with a free warranty, like all things mostly do, and a free tech support call line.

The only thing i see good on a Mac is it’s immunity to viruses, but i wouldn’t want to spend a lot of money and go through the hassle of switching for that reason. And there’s more valid reasons to be on a Windows PC then there is a Mac.

As I’ve mentioned before, Microsoft owns 90% of the computer market, so most third-company software that you download aren’t Mac supported. So you’re limited on a Mac IMO.