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> <channel><title>Comments on: Lotus Blows</title> <atom:link href="http://chris.pirillo.com/lotus-blows/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://chris.pirillo.com/lotus-blows/</link> <description>News and Reviews! Geek, Internet Entrepreneur, Hardware Addict, Software Junkie, Book Author, Once TV Show Host, Technology Enthusiast, Shameless Self-Promoter, Tech Conference Coordinator, Early Adopter, Idea Evangelist, Tech Support Blogger, Bootstrapper, Media Personality, Technology Consultant, Thicker Quicker Picker Upper.</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:37:17 -0800</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Thomas</title><link>http://chris.pirillo.com/lotus-blows/comment-page-1/#comment-70020</link> <dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:16:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chris.pirillo.com/2002/02/01/lotus-blows/#comment-70020</guid> <description>Outlook are for kids and grand parents who has just started to use e-mail. Thats okay, Mkay....</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outlook are for kids and grand parents who has just started to use e-mail. Thats okay, Mkay&#8230;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://chris.pirillo.com/lotus-blows/comment-page-1/#comment-639</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2002 08:41:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chris.pirillo.com/2002/02/01/lotus-blows/#comment-639</guid> <description>With a good firewall, network security policy, Exchange patches and filetering software you can prevent the majority of worms and virii from becoming a problem on your system. Like it or not Notes it outdated and definately falling out of favor in business.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With a good firewall, network security policy, Exchange patches and filetering software you can prevent the majority of worms and virii from becoming a problem on your system. Like it or not Notes it outdated and definately falling out of favor in business.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://chris.pirillo.com/lotus-blows/comment-page-1/#comment-638</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2002 03:32:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chris.pirillo.com/2002/02/01/lotus-blows/#comment-638</guid> <description>Exchange is horrible at filtering out spam/virus and the like. Notes excels in this area. Outlook running as *root* on your system doesn&#039;t help either. it seems like 9 of 10 email virus have been aimed at Outlook in the last year. This alone would steer me clear of it - why would I want to introduce a security flaw into my company? The time/resources to fix these issue isn&#039;t worth the ability to just stop it up-front. Notes gives you far more power to handle these issues on the front-end. Better yet, every script-kiddy in the world isn&#039;t out to get you.
Notes bumbles and falls over itself in the intergration with the rest of the internet area by using LotusScript (excuse me, Visual Basic). Visual Basic is a shit language, I hate it hate it hate it.
But for groupware purposes - group colloboration between business units within a company (not just email) - Notes shines far and above Exchange in this area.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exchange is horrible at filtering out spam/virus and the like. Notes excels in this area. Outlook running as *root* on your system doesn&#39;t help either. it seems like 9 of 10 email virus have been aimed at Outlook in the last year. This alone would steer me clear of it &#8211; why would I want to introduce a security flaw into my company? The time/resources to fix these issue isn&#39;t worth the ability to just stop it up-front. Notes gives you far more power to handle these issues on the front-end. Better yet, every script-kiddy in the world isn&#39;t out to get you.<br
/> Notes bumbles and falls over itself in the intergration with the rest of the internet area by using LotusScript (excuse me, Visual Basic). Visual Basic is a shit language, I hate it hate it hate it.<br
/> But for groupware purposes &#8211; group colloboration between business units within a company (not just email) &#8211; Notes shines far and above Exchange in this area.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://chris.pirillo.com/lotus-blows/comment-page-1/#comment-637</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2002 02:17:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chris.pirillo.com/2002/02/01/lotus-blows/#comment-637</guid> <description>SOB,
Most companies won&#039;t let you run a client of your choice, they want a companywide standard. This makes sense from a tech support perspective, they also probably don&#039;t want you to be running code you or your friend whipped up because of the security risks. That&#039;s all moot though, to the fact that it would probably be nearly impossible to write a client for a propritary protocol such as Notes or Exchange that has little or no documentation. I disagree with Jim, I think Outlook is far superior to Notes, Entourage is far and above the absolute best, but it&#039;s not availible for PC, and I hate Apple hardware (love the OS though, I&#039;ll be the first in line when it&#039;s ported to x86). Anyway I still see a need for a good groupware *nix backend and can use Outlook/Entourage as a client, seriously someone could make a lot of money if they wrote one, although MS might not like it too much...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOB,<br
/> Most companies won&#39;t let you run a client of your choice, they want a companywide standard. This makes sense from a tech support perspective, they also probably don&#39;t want you to be running code you or your friend whipped up because of the security risks. That&#39;s all moot though, to the fact that it would probably be nearly impossible to write a client for a propritary protocol such as Notes or Exchange that has little or no documentation. I disagree with Jim, I think Outlook is far superior to Notes, Entourage is far and above the absolute best, but it&#39;s not availible for PC, and I hate Apple hardware (love the OS though, I&#39;ll be the first in line when it&#39;s ported to x86). Anyway I still see a need for a good groupware *nix backend and can use Outlook/Entourage as a client, seriously someone could make a lot of money if they wrote one, although MS might not like it too much&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://chris.pirillo.com/lotus-blows/comment-page-1/#comment-636</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2002 23:22:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chris.pirillo.com/2002/02/01/lotus-blows/#comment-636</guid> <description>Someone out there must have the wherewithal to write a new interface for it.  If you despise it so much but prefer the &quot;back end&quot;, then why not write a new interface (or get a C++-savvy friend to) and enjoy the best of both worlds?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone out there must have the wherewithal to write a new interface for it.  If you despise it so much but prefer the &#8220;back end&#8221;, then why not write a new interface (or get a C++-savvy friend to) and enjoy the best of both worlds?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://chris.pirillo.com/lotus-blows/comment-page-1/#comment-635</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2002 21:41:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chris.pirillo.com/2002/02/01/lotus-blows/#comment-635</guid> <description>Your kidding right? Lotus Notes&#039; GUI is far and away superior to Outlook&#039;s. Outlook for the PC isn&#039;t really that good of a client, it is only because the averange computer user is familar with Office that Outlook make sense.
Now I messed around with the Office X (Mac OS X) client, Entourage I believe - that has one slick GUI on top of it - very easy to use, but I don&#039;t think it works with Exchange.
Anyway, Outlook/Exchange aren&#039;t particularly better solutions that Notes is... both platforms are sorely lacking in the corporate groupware space. As the above poster stated - it&#039;s too bad a solid unix solution has come forward (GUI one that is. Mutt is fine and all, but the learning curve is too high for your average executive.)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your kidding right? Lotus Notes&#39; GUI is far and away superior to Outlook&#39;s. Outlook for the PC isn&#39;t really that good of a client, it is only because the averange computer user is familar with Office that Outlook make sense.<br
/> Now I messed around with the Office X (Mac OS X) client, Entourage I believe &#8211; that has one slick GUI on top of it &#8211; very easy to use, but I don&#39;t think it works with Exchange.<br
/> Anyway, Outlook/Exchange aren&#39;t particularly better solutions that Notes is&#8230; both platforms are sorely lacking in the corporate groupware space. As the above poster stated &#8211; it&#39;s too bad a solid unix solution has come forward (GUI one that is. Mutt is fine and all, but the learning curve is too high for your average executive.)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://chris.pirillo.com/lotus-blows/comment-page-1/#comment-634</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2002 21:28:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chris.pirillo.com/2002/02/01/lotus-blows/#comment-634</guid> <description>Second that. We use it to track bugs in our software. POS!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Second that. We use it to track bugs in our software. POS!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://chris.pirillo.com/lotus-blows/comment-page-1/#comment-633</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2002 18:47:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chris.pirillo.com/2002/02/01/lotus-blows/#comment-633</guid> <description>Yeah, back in the day when I worked for ConUSA we used Lotus Notes and I hated it. It is one ugly piece of software, although I&#039;m tols the back-end is fantastic. Either Lotus needs to shape up, or people should switch to Exchange Server. Of course what I&#039;d really like to see is a nice enterprise server that runs on Linux, but can use outlook for the client...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, back in the day when I worked for ConUSA we used Lotus Notes and I hated it. It is one ugly piece of software, although I&#39;m tols the back-end is fantastic. Either Lotus needs to shape up, or people should switch to Exchange Server. Of course what I&#39;d really like to see is a nice enterprise server that runs on Linux, but can use outlook for the client&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss><!--
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