Is the Future of Science Research Open?

Another cool video Chris!

Another cool video Chris!

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wats in your USB?? i pod??

wats in your USB?? i pod??

if i dig a hole in my back yard and poop in it I don’t use the internet

if i dig a hole in my back yard and poop in it I don’t use the internet

Cool Tshirt

Cool Tshirt

interesting stuff Dr. Pirillo!

the Tshirt look as he is protesting agains completly normal contence that are being flaged

the Tshirt look as he is protesting agains completly normal contence that are being flaged

—-Proponents say these “open access” practices make scientific progress more collaborative and therefore more productive.—-

Yes, it will be more productive especially if one scientist is stuck, there may be many more out there that can take off where the first one was stuck. In theory keeping the study or project moving instead of sitting in a lab with little or no progress being made.

—-Critics say scientists who put preliminary findings online risk having others copy or exploit the work to gain credit or even patents.—-

Theory if more people are working on a cure for cancer or aids over the internet and if the net makes that cure come a little quicker because other scientist can examine the work of others. I don’t care who did it like most people just that one more life could be saved.

and if you think running windows with no internet is bad, running ubuntu linux with no internet connection is hell. at least windows has some form of functionality.

and if you think running windows with no internet is bad, running ubuntu linux with no internet connection is hell. at least windows has some form of functionality.

I like many other parents these days, have chosen to home school my children, and I’ve come to the conclusion that to do so would be -impossible- without the collaboration that comes from the new web.

1. A great deal of my son’s school work is completed and contained on the web. (www.time4learning.com)

2. He is able to talk and collaborate with other students, and often find answers to questions that have him stumped through use of the web, and email, and even a blog maintained by a friend of his who moved away some time ago.

3. The web allows -me- to communicate with other parents going through similar situations and to share ideas, triumphs and even failures. We help each other.

it may not be a ’science’ but I don’t think parenting today would be the same, without the collaboration that comes from the web. For me, I know it wouldn’t.

While reading this post, I had an idea. A website where scientists can post a theory, and as their research grows on that theory they can add to it. I don’t know if it would use wiki software, blog software, or maybe you’d have to write a new application for it. But I just think that would be a cool idea.

(And yes, I’m being open about it!)

In response to moremetallica, do you think the same logic should apply for cognitive enhancers (Provigil, Adderall, etc)? If scientists take these drugs and can be more productive for much greater portions of the day, it’s likely we’ll see a cure for cancer/AIDS/Alzheimers/etc much sooner than if these drugs aren’t used. But would this be any different than an athlete using steroids? Which scientists should have access to the drugs? Should graduate students? And what about the enormous intelligence/productivity gap that would be created?

I’m just not sure we can use the logic that because it will likely lead to a development faster, a technology should be used. I’m all for open science, members of my lab often publish in PLoS journals (and these journals are where some of the more interesting articles every week), but we do need to be careful.

If anyone is really interested in some of the problems open access/closed access journals cause, this (www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2008/02/06/openaccess_is_t.html) is by far the best post I’ve seen about the issue.

It’d be great to see this happen, the internet has long been a way to easily collaborate with others. Hopefully scientists will embrace this new manner of doing things, but I’m sure many more will care to stay in the labs protecting their works (which is still a major problem on the web in general)

I like the idea that if one scientist reaches a point where he no longer knows what to do or has run out of ideas or is having a brain melt down he can simply post his recorded data online and wait… Soon enough another scientist will surely come along with brighter ideas and possible new ways of thinking concerning the subject thus hopefully progressing the project. Collaboration is key to a prosperous future in any field really.

very interested in pyhsics. amazing to know what things are made from and why things are the way they are

very interested in pyhsics. amazing to know what things are made from and why things are the way they are

Scientist already do have peer reviewed scientific journals, which are inherently collaborative. This could be expanded to the internet, for publishing and review purposes (if it has not already).

Scientist already do have peer reviewed scientific journals, which are inherently collaborative. This could be expanded to the internet, for publishing and review purposes (if it has not already).

i would like to see more open reserch. it helps you understand what went wrong or right. plus its so cool to find out how stuff is done. just end reslts are boaring.
peace. gregg

i would like to see more open reserch. it helps you understand what went wrong or right. plus its so cool to find out how stuff is done. just end reslts are boaring.
peace. gregg

I think that the future of science is open, but with limitations. The Internet is definitely a valuable resource for scientists, but I don’t think that the entire scientific community will adapt this attitude. The major reason is because people could really steal someone’s ideas. For instance you wouldn’t put the design of a new engine that runs on oxygen on the Internet, would you? Maybe you would get input from the Internet…..? Right?

Ok…. science has come so far, its not even funny… its just a matter of time before anyone will be able to do their own research, as well as perhaps find a cure for cancer. Who knows what will come around the science corner next.

The last Magazine I’ve read is the Tokyo Pop Monthly release of Manga that is sent to me for free. ^_^ Sorry I don’t read “magazines” much… I mostly read Novels, or I’m currently working on my Trilogy

Many Scientists are now venturing in this area

Many Scientists are now venturing in this area

Nice topic. As an open source fanatic, I am convinced that collaboration on a project usually leads to better results than you could achieve if it were done privately. There are more people to catch mistakes and help correct them, as well as more creativity and insight.

I am an undergraduate student studying biology, and plan on doing my own research someday. I would love to see more collaboration among scientists. There is a long list of potentially serious problems facing society, such as global warming, drug-resistant diseases like tuberculosis, and so forth. There are also many emerging technologies, including biotechnology and nanotechnology, that look like very promising solutions to those problems. However, with the potentially disastrous results of those technologies, I feel that closer collaboration among scientists is very important. It is necessary if we want to safely move forward with research in a way that will benefit people, and not cause more problems than it solves.

Thanks for the video.

Another cool video Chris

Another cool video Chris

The last magazine I read was the CPU magazine April 2008 edition… I read your “I, Geek” article in that issue Chris… nicely put.
I think that it’s natural evolution, so to speak, that science develop more on the web as everything seems to have done more and more these days. Science has always been about breaking new ground, discovering new ways to think about things… so why not put it on the web and allow others to help the development of a theory. Much like open source software, everyone can help the cause… and this is a good thing for everyone.

I think open sharing is the only way to go from where we are right now. And think of it; having all the greatest scientists in the world collaborating and working together by sharing information that may solve a vital problem for another scientist. I think this could lead to increased productivity and development from the worlds scientists. The first step however is finding and setting up reliable places to share said information, which could be easier said than done.

dude the information you’re asking for (funding etc) is all in the academic journals

dude the information you’re asking for (funding etc) is all in the academic journals

It’s so much better to hold the paper magazine in the hands than reading things from the screen, but it’s not free.
I think the future of the web is to give better stuff more useful online services like fontstruct or even like this blog. I would enjoy that but I would hat to speak to my microwave or even to my computer.

I think Science Research should be open as well. Think of all the cures and treatments that could be discovered if scientists worked together and collaborated on experiments. Of course there would always be that one person who would try to steal the work, but there could be some sort of system put into place to stop that.

The internet will allow and promote the mixing of different disciplines of science that would not normally be involved with each other. Such collaboration could result in a whole host of wonderful discoveries that would not have happened otherwise.

The internet will allow and promote the mixing of different disciplines of science that would not normally be involved with each other. Such collaboration could result in a whole host of wonderful discoveries that would not have happened otherwise.

I love biology and the study of all lifeforms including humans and where we came from! I think science is very important, alot of people dont like scientists but without them the human race would not have adavanced this far and I wouldn’t typing on this on this computer right now if it weren’t for science. I love science!!!!

I know I’d be extremely interested in reading a scientist’s blog post daily. Knowledge has never hurt anyone, so why would they ignore the online community in general? I wouldn’t think alot of us have subscriptions to the leading magazine for “scientists”, so I’m not even sure where I’d find information on a topic I’ve never heard of before! Without the internet, I’d still be in the dark about stem cell research, studies based on cloning, or any of that stuff. Blogging should be accepted far more then it already is, and it might even get younger people more interested in science. It could inform the world on alot of topics that we’d otherwise never hear of.

I really agree with the concept of dropping the ego. I hat science too. But i think its very important to bring attention to open source software. This is a prime example of how sharing ideas and information can eventually speed up productivity. The patenting issue i believe is valid, hoever i wold leave it up to the discretion of the scientist to decide whether their subject matter can benefit from interacting with blogs or stand to loose more by giving away ideas or information.

Some big award in mathematics in 2007 went to a person who first published his results on the web. This is because he was not able to publish it in any journal. Open source is the way to go

Some big award in mathematics in 2007 went to a person who first published his results on the web. This is because he was not able to publish it in any journal. Open source is the way to go

oh man, how great it would be if the people would collaborate more, if everyone would help each other we would evolve much faster then we are today, many people have too much pride to share their findings, theories and answers with other people so if they get stuck somewhere then they won’t ask for help , they have too much pride to ask someone for advice.
But i would like to see something to read watch some sort of monitor that is as thin newspaper as that you can fold it as a newspaper or a book but it can be edited and updated automatically, it’s much easier to read longer articles, news, howto’s, research document on a plain sheet paper than a computer monitor and you don’t have to scroll the whole time, i think scientists are really close to make one, you won’t haver to drag around a big laptop just to get news, iPhone are really good but it has a too little screen but it’s a good step into the development.

Well of course in the future everything will start to get open, but for the time being I don’t think Science Research will be open for at least a couple more years. Of course everything is at some point released I don’t think they will for a long time tell us present moment science research. Thanks chris.

This is huge! Now there is a global effort to solve real world problems. The entire world can now analyze data and submit possible solutions to scientists if they get stuck or need new ideas.

I am just waiting for the day when superconductors can survive a room temperature. That way, cell phones and MP3 players can run almost forever without ever recharging. Hopefully, with a collaborative effort such as blogging, we can find solutions to scientific innovations such as this.

I agree 100% research will get nowhere if it is not open but the problem is people like to get credit and if everyone participates in something no credit goes to one person.

This is great, it would be great to see “medical” blogs. I cant believe this hasn’t been though of before. I wonder how long it will take for it to come in effect.

Thanks Chris!

A very interesting concept. Blogging scientists are few and far between, most likely because they would be giving away trade secrets if they posted research online. Come to think of it, that is what research is. Finding new things and selling that information to someone who doesn’t know it yet. If you just started posting everything you found on a blog, you would never make any money.

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chris is a black flag fan? as in rollins?

chris is a black flag fan? as in rollins?

chris is a black flag fan? as in rollins?

That might be a nice move. Open up the research to the public. They would be able to help alot probably. I dont know much about scientific research but being “Open” with development or research isnt bad.

Yes if you’re not an r&d scientist at a company.

I’m sure this will definitely start happening. With Wikis and blogs popping up everyday, this will definitely happen.

Computers before the internet? That was fine when I was 5. The first i-Mac proved the #1 use for home computers is internet.

If you choose to put your ideas out there, so be it. If you want to protect your idea, don’t even consider posting it on anything linked to the world wide web.

Chris is right, some people don’t have the means to produce certain things, so it’s good to be able to hand it off to people who CAN. It certainly helps development, considering when Chris blabs out something like “they should make like a DVD rewinder that you just put the DVD on and it spins and spins backward” I went online and turns out there is one, though it’s rather old…there you go.

I cant believe this hasn’t been though of before. I wonder how long it will take for it to come in effect.This is great, it would be great to see “medical” blogs.

come to think of it, maybe someone in the “high up” doesnt want all this to happen… what if a joined effort of millions of brains blogging together discover the next bomb thats 1000000 times more powerful than nuclear…

come to think about it, maybe people in the “high up” wont like this… what if this joint effort of millions of brains blogging and thinking together will discover the new bomb thats 10000 times more powerful than nuclear, or other such delicate science discoveries, the last thing the government would need is this stuff to be blogged internationally

A. Mad Magazine!!!
B. How cool would it be if the US patent office had a weblog associated with each patent. That way, one wouldn’t be able to steal anybody’s ideas, but discussion would still contribute to the advancement of an idea.

They need discoveries noted so that scientific researchers abroad can be inspired, and just know wth is going on across the board. Is this what is slowing down the process?

How cool would it be if the US patent office had a weblog associated with each patent. That way, one wouldn’t be able to steal anybody’s ideas, but discussion would still contribute to the advancement of an idea.

I think it’s only natural that scientific research has now followed the pattern of the consumer to the web. Even though it’s been around for years as both the world wide web and as ARPANET, scientists have been slow to embrace this phenomenon as an aid to their research. But now that’s changed, for some at least. There is such a wealth of information out there that scientists, if they aren’t too concerned about credit, have nothing to lose and everything to gain by making a move to the net. Let the revolution continue.

I believe that as long as people are willing to invest and work in the fields of science and technology, anything is possible. If something goes wrong, then people work to fix it. We just remember that anything is possible.

Well i wish that the science research is going to stay open but i have a bad fealing that it will not turn out like that. I love science and the new ideas they come up everyday and i try to stay tuned up with those most of the time but as world starts to have a lot of issues, tensions are high, conflicts rising, money problems, fuel resource, etc then by those factors they might make it more private.

so many double posts… the site was f***d up at some point

Science should be open as long as the information shared provides no means to cause harm. I could see an ordinary Joe or enemy country using open science to their benefit.

I’ve been a long time subscriber to Popular Science. However, it makes a good point that science research will eventually migrate to “open”. Collaboration between other scientists across the globe will become substantially easier, as this information will be accessible to everyone.

This sounds like an interesting idea. I wonder what open science will to do scientific acceleration.

“Open access” practices are like open source software.Chances to finalize a project rises when many people are involved into it.Many ideas many chances to succeed

I definitely believe that the future of Science research is open. However, I think there needs to be some form of authentication for people to prove that they have the credentials that they are claiming they have so that researchers don’t have to waste their time wading through a bunch of claims made by an unqualified individual.

Open access would help scientists solve things A LOT faster than if they are greedy and try to do everything themselves. It would also save on the cash needed to fund these projects, as they will get done faster. This is clearly a situation of doing more with more because its practical.

Without being accredited, many people find it difficult to get the ideas or suggestions, be them scientific or otherwise, out there. And I think people have a lot to say and contribute. Two minds are greater than one. And I think that this is very true. In terms of Mathematics, what would be wrong with putting out mathematical problems for people to solve. Some Mathematical problems are yet to be solved, and maybe someone out there could help. I’m trying to discredit real Mathematicians, but I think if the world wide combined power of us could definitely be useful.

I haven’t read a magazine in a long time, probably Popular Mechanics or Popular Science was the last one. With blogs and online news, I haven’t found magazines all that useful.

i think the science community should be more open and collaborate more, because the more the scientists work together and share their findings the more advancements in science we will have.

It depends…people want to pattent and retain ideas for themselves with the end goal of either a. getting money for their creations, or b. becoming famous for a discovery. There is deffinately a possibility for collaboration between people, but it won’t nessacarily happen. In some cases, however, people who come together independantly to produce a product will succeed and come out with something life changing.

wheres the big chris head thats usually on your macbook pro?