In the second half of the conversation with Brent Simmons he talks about the elegance of Mac apps, the advantages of developing software for Mac OS X and his past as a developer for both Linux and Windows. During this hour Brent’s Luddite leanings in the realm of personal video recording are revealed, prompting Chris to make an immediate call to action. Everyone with a Mac must buy a copy of NetNewsWire so Brent can step out of the VCR dark ages and join the Tivo generation. More details and a secret toy surprise inside this second hour with Brent Simmons of Ranchero software.