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		<title>By: jason_m</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/how-to-fax-over-voip-on-the-internet/#comment-777693</link>
		<dc:creator>jason_m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disable ECM mode = biggest VoIP myth ever!  It&#039;s like people will &quot;wow a success!&quot; on their machines, but in reality it can be fake.. no Ecm mode means you don&#039;t care if pages may be unreadable.  All in all, you *want* any form of error detection possible (ecm is software level error correction) on a VoIP line.  As for as I know in my various testing &quot;false positives&quot; just do not happen.  &quot;The slower your Fax goes, the more likely it is to go through without errors.&quot; is just not true.  VoIP line &quot;noise&quot; is caused my network jitter, not continuous &quot;analog fuzz&quot;.  In VoIP, your might get several seconds of &quot;good enough&quot; audio to allow a number of sections to go through, such as lines or octets.  If you slow the transmission down, you only better guarantee that a full line or octet will never be complete within the good audio window.  Ecm mode is very good at recovering from jitter induced data loss by asking the sending machine to retransmit the lost data called frames and octetes.  Also generally speaking, slowing the baud rate to 9600 from 14400 isn&#039;t necessary.  Since 9600 and lower do not have modem protocol error correction, any gain you might get is lost due to not having any form of error correction.  14400 is later and has forward error correction in addition to the software level Ecm mode.   ...&quot;because it will cause the fax to loop over and over trying to fix these noise errors&quot; - but you *want* Ecm mode to fail rather than to deliver a bunch of blank and unreadable pages!  If your line is that bad to cause Ecm to fail outright, then disabling Ecm mode will certainly give the receiver blank/missing and unreadable pages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disable ECM mode = biggest VoIP myth ever!  It&#8217;s like people will &#8220;wow a success!&#8221; on their machines, but in reality it can be fake.. no Ecm mode means you don&#8217;t care if pages may be unreadable.  All in all, you *want* any form of error detection possible (ecm is software level error correction) on a VoIP line.  As for as I know in my various testing &#8220;false positives&#8221; just do not happen.  &#8220;The slower your Fax goes, the more likely it is to go through without errors.&#8221; is just not true.  VoIP line &#8220;noise&#8221; is caused my network jitter, not continuous &#8220;analog fuzz&#8221;.  In VoIP, your might get several seconds of &#8220;good enough&#8221; audio to allow a number of sections to go through, such as lines or octets.  If you slow the transmission down, you only better guarantee that a full line or octet will never be complete within the good audio window.  Ecm mode is very good at recovering from jitter induced data loss by asking the sending machine to retransmit the lost data called frames and octetes.  Also generally speaking, slowing the baud rate to 9600 from 14400 isn&#8217;t necessary.  Since 9600 and lower do not have modem protocol error correction, any gain you might get is lost due to not having any form of error correction.  14400 is later and has forward error correction in addition to the software level Ecm mode.   &#8230;&#8221;because it will cause the fax to loop over and over trying to fix these noise errors&#8221; &#8211; but you *want* Ecm mode to fail rather than to deliver a bunch of blank and unreadable pages!  If your line is that bad to cause Ecm to fail outright, then disabling Ecm mode will certainly give the receiver blank/missing and unreadable pages.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Pirillo</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/how-to-fax-over-voip-on-the-internet/#comment-775107</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Pirillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FAXing. Can&#039;t we just put this behind us already?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FAXing. Can&#8217;t we just put this behind us already?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Pirillo</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/how-to-fax-over-voip-on-the-internet/#comment-775108</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Pirillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FAXing. Can&#039;t we just put this behind us already?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FAXing. Can&#8217;t we just put this behind us already?</p>
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		<title>By: Kitty Burgers</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/how-to-fax-over-voip-on-the-internet/#comment-775106</link>
		<dc:creator>Kitty Burgers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A VOIP provider should be able to tell you if faxing is supported or not. This shouldn&#039;t be a major problem anymore with T.38 and a stable ISP and VOIP service provider.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A VOIP provider should be able to tell you if faxing is supported or not. This shouldn&#8217;t be a major problem anymore with T.38 and a stable ISP and VOIP service provider.</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie Maddison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melanie Maddison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t express how much internet fax has helped my business. The price is great, it is reliable, saves a lot of time and leaves me extremely organized. I am also very conscious about the environment so I like how you save paper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t express how much internet fax has helped my business. The price is great, it is reliable, saves a lot of time and leaves me extremely organized. I am also very conscious about the environment so I like how you save paper.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Draiman, Utility Auditor</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/how-to-fax-over-voip-on-the-internet/#comment-705078</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Draiman, Utility Auditor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flexii Vista Compatible Portable USB Paperless Digital Fax Machine-Plug and Play! Features 
•  ***Vista Compatible USB2.0 Paperless Digital Fax***
This digital fax revolutionizes the traditional way of sending, receiving fax without printing any extra paper. Features a Hi-speed USB 2.0 interface, it attaches to any regular laptop or desktop computer, and turning the computer into a paperless fax machine, provides advanced fax solution and perfect fax managing methods for user with its bundled application software.

It helps increase efficiency, bolster the image quality, its built-in programs delivers great flexibility, and function for editing and multi sending faxes, its paerless faxing solution making this handy little digital fax is ideal for any home or business usage No need to spending dollars on buying paper any more. It is a true green product with its innovation entironment-friendly design.

Features

* USB Plug&amp;Play
* Handy, portable
* Digital paperless fax sending from computer to fax machine 
* Fax sending: Through any fixed line number 
* Group fax sending: Send Fax to one or more receivers with one action 
* Automatic mode: Receive and send fax automatically 
* Resending the fax automatically if the receiver is busy 
* Manage function: Sent or received files can be read, edited, forwarded, saved or printed 
* LED status indicators 
* Vista compatible
* Dimension: 100*64*21mm 
* Weight: 0.394</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flexii Vista Compatible Portable USB Paperless Digital Fax Machine-Plug and Play! Features<br />
•  ***Vista Compatible USB2.0 Paperless Digital Fax***<br />
This digital fax revolutionizes the traditional way of sending, receiving fax without printing any extra paper. Features a Hi-speed USB 2.0 interface, it attaches to any regular laptop or desktop computer, and turning the computer into a paperless fax machine, provides advanced fax solution and perfect fax managing methods for user with its bundled application software.</p>
<p>It helps increase efficiency, bolster the image quality, its built-in programs delivers great flexibility, and function for editing and multi sending faxes, its paerless faxing solution making this handy little digital fax is ideal for any home or business usage No need to spending dollars on buying paper any more. It is a true green product with its innovation entironment-friendly design.</p>
<p>Features</p>
<p>* USB Plug&amp;Play<br />
* Handy, portable<br />
* Digital paperless fax sending from computer to fax machine<br />
* Fax sending: Through any fixed line number<br />
* Group fax sending: Send Fax to one or more receivers with one action<br />
* Automatic mode: Receive and send fax automatically<br />
* Resending the fax automatically if the receiver is busy<br />
* Manage function: Sent or received files can be read, edited, forwarded, saved or printed<br />
* LED status indicators<br />
* Vista compatible<br />
* Dimension: 100*64*21mm<br />
* Weight: 0.394</p>
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		<title>By: online fax safe? - PCMech Forums</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/how-to-fax-over-voip-on-the-internet/#comment-670503</link>
		<dc:creator>online fax safe? - PCMech Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] faxes, but I&#039;ve never used an online fax sending service. My faxes come in via e-mail attachments.  http://chris.pirillo.com/2008/02/17/...-the-internet/  Set your baud rate to 9600 and turn off Error Correction [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] faxes, but I&#8217;ve never used an online fax sending service. My faxes come in via e-mail attachments.  <a href="http://chris.pirillo.com/2008/02/17/...-the-internet/" rel="nofollow">http://chris.pirillo.com/2008/02/17/&#8230;-the-internet/</a>  Set your baud rate to 9600 and turn off Error Correction [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: GiM</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/how-to-fax-over-voip-on-the-internet/#comment-594148</link>
		<dc:creator>GiM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not understand why, after so many years, do not have a software, a &quot;driver&quot; to send digital info (fax) by digital line (network, internet)...

I am able to &quot;print&quot; from Word to a &quot;fax machine&quot;, a digital info, and send it by analog phone line only, but not to send to an IP address or to a &quot;gateway&quot; from internet to a phone line (such technologies were used few years ago, but I did not hear any more these days, when VOIP is more used). At least a &quot;sending&quot; machine for each PC should be easy, up to the moment we will have &quot;answering fax&quot; machines at an internet address...

Generally, we have software, fax machines, to send or/and receive data, but only as a digital communication over an analog phone line.

Strangely enought, it should be easier to have digital communications over digital line (network, internet...).

And I believe we can go higher than 9.6 kbps, like 5-8 MBps or even more...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not understand why, after so many years, do not have a software, a &#8220;driver&#8221; to send digital info (fax) by digital line (network, internet)&#8230;</p>
<p>I am able to &#8220;print&#8221; from Word to a &#8220;fax machine&#8221;, a digital info, and send it by analog phone line only, but not to send to an IP address or to a &#8220;gateway&#8221; from internet to a phone line (such technologies were used few years ago, but I did not hear any more these days, when VOIP is more used). At least a &#8220;sending&#8221; machine for each PC should be easy, up to the moment we will have &#8220;answering fax&#8221; machines at an internet address&#8230;</p>
<p>Generally, we have software, fax machines, to send or/and receive data, but only as a digital communication over an analog phone line.</p>
<p>Strangely enought, it should be easier to have digital communications over digital line (network, internet&#8230;).</p>
<p>And I believe we can go higher than 9.6 kbps, like 5-8 MBps or even more&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Greg W</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/how-to-fax-over-voip-on-the-internet/#comment-593654</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been using Vonage for close to year now to fax and so far no pronblems</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been using Vonage for close to year now to fax and so far no pronblems</p>
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		<title>By: shanedk</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/how-to-fax-over-voip-on-the-internet/#comment-637343</link>
		<dc:creator>shanedk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> By the way, I do my faxing over the internet with Packet 8. They have a special service for fax, free to anywhere in the US and Canada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I do my faxing over the internet with Packet 8. They have a special service for fax, free to anywhere in the US and Canada.</p>
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		<title>By: shanedk</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/how-to-fax-over-voip-on-the-internet/#comment-637344</link>
		<dc:creator>shanedk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I use fax in my business, where it&#039;s necessary. Of course, it&#039;s a fax/scanner/copier (color, of course) and fully controllable from my computer.

I&#039;d rather use email, and my clients do well with me just sending them their invoices as a PDF in an email. But some third parties will only accept a fax, and for some reason legal documents are only recognized as valid when faxed, not scanned, so they MUST be faxed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use fax in my business, where it&#8217;s necessary. Of course, it&#8217;s a fax/scanner/copier (color, of course) and fully controllable from my computer.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather use email, and my clients do well with me just sending them their invoices as a PDF in an email. But some third parties will only accept a fax, and for some reason legal documents are only recognized as valid when faxed, not scanned, so they MUST be faxed.</p>
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		<title>By: a1gaius</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/how-to-fax-over-voip-on-the-internet/#comment-637345</link>
		<dc:creator>a1gaius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> BTW, wtf is up with the -2 rating on my comment? Now, THAT&#039;s nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, wtf is up with the -2 rating on my comment? Now, THAT&#8217;s nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: 88luda88</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/how-to-fax-over-voip-on-the-internet/#comment-637346</link>
		<dc:creator>88luda88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> yeah he is ^^ tht one of the reasons we love em</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah he is ^^ tht one of the reasons we love em</p>
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		<title>By: cainorox</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/how-to-fax-over-voip-on-the-internet/#comment-637347</link>
		<dc:creator>cainorox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> kool</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kool</p>
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		<title>By: a1gaius</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/how-to-fax-over-voip-on-the-internet/#comment-637348</link>
		<dc:creator>a1gaius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> wow....you&#039;re nuts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow&#8230;.you&#8217;re nuts</p>
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