Comments on: How Not to Recover Data from a Vista Backup http://chris.pirillo.com/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/ News and Reviews! Geek, Internet Entrepreneur, Hardware Addict, Software Junkie, Book Author, Once TV Show Host, Technology Enthusiast, Shameless Self-Promoter, Tech Conference Coordinator, Early Adopter, Idea Evangelist, Tech Support Blogger, Bootstrapper, Media Personality, Technology Consultant, Thicker Quicker Picker Upper. Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:33:24 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Jakehttp://chris.pirillo.com/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/comment-page-1/#comment-345196 Jake Wed, 09 May 2007 23:59:45 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/04/12/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/#comment-345196 I had to recover Windows Vsta on my pc, i found a vendor through a site below.At this site you can compare data recovery quotes, I haven't seen any other site that does that.http://www.datarecoverycompare.comDoes anyone any similiar services for data recovery? I had to recover Windows Vsta on my pc, i found a vendor through a site below.

At this site you can compare data recovery quotes, I haven’t seen any other site that does that.

http://www.datarecoverycompare.com

Does anyone any similiar services for data recovery?

]]> By: Brandon Paddockhttp://chris.pirillo.com/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/comment-page-1/#comment-305731 Brandon Paddock Wed, 18 Apr 2007 00:12:05 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/04/12/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/#comment-305731 Andy - what do you mean? You think consumers should demand that Microsoft include more advanced features in Home SKUs?I guess that's up to each individual to decide, but I hardly think limiting certain features to higher-priced versions constitutes "abuse." You probably don't complain that better seats at a football game cost more than those father away. You don't complain that Intel only ships Virtualization technology in their higher-end chips. You don't complain that Intel only allows multi-processor configurations in the Xeon line.Sometimes the only way to justify the cost of developing a more complex feature is to charge more for it. That's nothing new... Andy – what do you mean? You think consumers should demand that Microsoft include more advanced features in Home SKUs?

I guess that’s up to each individual to decide, but I hardly think limiting certain features to higher-priced versions constitutes “abuse.” You probably don’t complain that better seats at a football game cost more than those father away. You don’t complain that Intel only ships Virtualization technology in their higher-end chips. You don’t complain that Intel only allows multi-processor configurations in the Xeon line.

Sometimes the only way to justify the cost of developing a more complex feature is to charge more for it. That’s nothing new…

]]> By: Indie Game Development » Blog Archive » How much would you like to pay for your data today?http://chris.pirillo.com/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/comment-page-1/#comment-304405 Indie Game Development » Blog Archive » How much would you like to pay for your data today? Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:13:44 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/04/12/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/#comment-304405 [...] Here’s an interesting blog and comment thread from Chris Pirillo about the same subject - I like the line about not knowing whether to laugh or cry: http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/04/12/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/ [...] [...] Here’s an interesting blog and comment thread from Chris Pirillo about the same subject – I like the line about not knowing whether to laugh or cry: http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/04/12/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/ [...]

]]> By: Andyhttp://chris.pirillo.com/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/comment-page-1/#comment-303795 Andy Sun, 15 Apr 2007 21:44:23 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/04/12/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/#comment-303795 *shakes my head* Another mistake with Vista. I really hate this whole approach and Microsoft's attitude with Vista.When will consumers stop accepting this abuse and stand up and tell Microsoft that enough is enough? *shakes my head* Another mistake with Vista. I really hate this whole approach and Microsoft’s attitude with Vista.

When will consumers stop accepting this abuse and stand up and tell Microsoft that enough is enough?

]]> By: Brandon Paddockhttp://chris.pirillo.com/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/comment-page-1/#comment-303671 Brandon Paddock Sun, 15 Apr 2007 18:17:26 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/04/12/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/#comment-303671 Uhh - I think he's confusing Shadow Copy behavior with System Restore. It should be no surprise that they're related, but there's a significant distinction. Uhh – I think he’s confusing Shadow Copy behavior with System Restore. It should be no surprise that they’re related, but there’s a significant distinction.

]]> By: Scott Kingeryhttp://chris.pirillo.com/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/comment-page-1/#comment-303109 Scott Kingery Sun, 15 Apr 2007 05:46:05 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/04/12/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/#comment-303109 Lots o confusion and FUD out there. I have Vista Home Premium and I backup and restore just fine. In fact I have a <a href="http://www.techlifeweb.com/present/vista_restore.html" rel="nofollow">flash demo of it</a>. Vista does shadow copy in the home versions. That makes sense because that is how it's new back up system works. There is a very technical video on <a href="http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=286303" rel="nofollow">Channel 9</a> if you want to learn more about it. Essentially once the initial back up is done then they only worry about the changes. You don't get that info without some kind of shadow copy service running. Lots o confusion and FUD out there.
I have Vista Home Premium and I backup and restore just fine. In fact I have a flash demo of it.
Vista does shadow copy in the home versions. That makes sense because that is how it’s new back up system works. There is a very technical video on Channel 9 if you want to learn more about it. Essentially once the initial back up is done then they only worry about the changes. You don’t get that info without some kind of shadow copy service running.

]]> By: Derek K. Millerhttp://chris.pirillo.com/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/comment-page-1/#comment-301331 Derek K. Miller Fri, 13 Apr 2007 05:51:45 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/04/12/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/#comment-301331 Well, there WOULD be one version of Time Machine for Apple users to use on one version of the OS if Apple hadn't pushed the released date for 10.5 out from June to October. So at least Vista is backing up, even if you can't restore! Well, there WOULD be one version of Time Machine for Apple users to use on one version of the OS if Apple hadn’t pushed the released date for 10.5 out from June to October. So at least Vista is backing up, even if you can’t restore!

]]> By: Pirillo’s wrong again | Ed Bott’s Windows Expertise |http://chris.pirillo.com/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/comment-page-1/#comment-301183 Pirillo’s wrong again | Ed Bott’s Windows Expertise | Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:05:29 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/04/12/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/#comment-301183 [...] You’d think someone had given Pirillo a Super Atomic Wedgie given the amount of yipping in this post. He’s bemoaning the fact that Windows Vista has a feature that keeps backups of deleted files in every version but doesn’t allow anyone using Home Basic or Home Premium to access those automatic backups. And then, with the subtlety and savoir faire that characterizes everything from Pirillo World Headquarters, Chris tosses a gratuitous insult my direction: [...] [...] You’d think someone had given Pirillo a Super Atomic Wedgie given the amount of yipping in this post. He’s bemoaning the fact that Windows Vista has a feature that keeps backups of deleted files in every version but doesn’t allow anyone using Home Basic or Home Premium to access those automatic backups. And then, with the subtlety and savoir faire that characterizes everything from Pirillo World Headquarters, Chris tosses a gratuitous insult my direction: [...]

]]> By: Jorgiehttp://chris.pirillo.com/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/comment-page-1/#comment-301172 Jorgie Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:47:04 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/04/12/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/#comment-301172 I also think it to be stupid, but to be fair nothing is being 'backed up'. The volume shadow service is being used to protect the system files, and as a side effect, the other files on the same volume MAY also be protected. I say MAY because the shadow service relies on there being free space and if the disk is getting full, you can bet that the non-system 'backups' more correctly 'snap-shots' are thrown away first. I also think it to be stupid, but to be fair nothing is being ‘backed up’. The volume shadow service is being used to protect the system files, and as a side effect, the other files on the same volume MAY also be protected. I say MAY because the shadow service relies on there being free space and if the disk is getting full, you can bet that the non-system ‘backups’ more correctly ’snap-shots’ are thrown away first.

]]> By: Nimahttp://chris.pirillo.com/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/comment-page-1/#comment-301171 Nima Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:45:29 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/04/12/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/#comment-301171 Cry, Chris, cry. :( Cry, Chris, cry. :(

]]> By: Shawn Osterhttp://chris.pirillo.com/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/comment-page-1/#comment-301114 Shawn Oster Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:40:19 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/04/12/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/#comment-301114 Maybe I'm missing something but hasn't it been known since before launch that only Ultimate, and some versions of Business, had this feature? I mean it's right there when you install any version of Vista, the big feature matrix that clearly states that full backup recovery is *not* included in Home Premium or lower. Being suprised by this is... well, sorta suprising.All that being said, it is rather annoying that something needed most by home users isn't included in the Home versions. Even the Family pack idea of Vista is Ultimate + Home Premium, thus leading most home users to thinking the home level is the one for them.This is what happens when you apply business-style marketing to a consumer segment. Under the guise of consumer choice you end up with consumer confusion, as clearly illustrated by anyone that didn't realize full recovery wasn't available in the home line. Maybe I’m missing something but hasn’t it been known since before launch that only Ultimate, and some versions of Business, had this feature? I mean it’s right there when you install any version of Vista, the big feature matrix that clearly states that full backup recovery is *not* included in Home Premium or lower. Being suprised by this is… well, sorta suprising.

All that being said, it is rather annoying that something needed most by home users isn’t included in the Home versions. Even the Family pack idea of Vista is Ultimate + Home Premium, thus leading most home users to thinking the home level is the one for them.

This is what happens when you apply business-style marketing to a consumer segment. Under the guise of consumer choice you end up with consumer confusion, as clearly illustrated by anyone that didn’t realize full recovery wasn’t available in the home line.

]]> By: Tim Chttp://chris.pirillo.com/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/comment-page-1/#comment-300996 Tim C Thu, 12 Apr 2007 17:07:30 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/04/12/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/#comment-300996 XP doesn't perform an automated user data backup besides System Restore which only protects system and program files. So what's stupid is leaving this feature in to begin with. So my answer if someone wants their home PC backed up, don't pay a ransom, just buy Acronis and use a USB hard drive. Problem solved. They should have at least disabled the feature altogether instead of taking up disk space and resources. XP doesn’t perform an automated user data backup besides System Restore which only protects system and program files. So what’s stupid is leaving this feature in to begin with. So my answer if someone wants their home PC backed up, don’t pay a ransom, just buy Acronis and use a USB hard drive. Problem solved. They should have at least disabled the feature altogether instead of taking up disk space and resources.

]]> By: Jim Turnerhttp://chris.pirillo.com/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/comment-page-1/#comment-300926 Jim Turner Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:40:33 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/04/12/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/#comment-300926 *insert MS evil laugh here*That is spooky. *insert MS evil laugh here*

That is spooky.

]]> By: Someone Elsehttp://chris.pirillo.com/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/comment-page-1/#comment-351363 Someone Else Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/04/12/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/#comment-351363 <!--%kramer-pre%-->that all is not well with Microsoft's new operating system to say the least. Please bear with me while I take a quiet moment to say "I told you so" to the folks at Redmond. Your. New. Operating. System. Isn't. Ready. For. Release. After. Six. Years. Of. <!--%kramer-post%--> that all is not well with Microsoft’s new operating system to say the least. Please bear with me while I take a quiet moment to say “I told you so” to the folks at Redmond. Your. New. Operating. System. Isn’t. Ready. For. Release. After. Six. Years. Of.

]]> By: The Chris Pirillo Showhttp://chris.pirillo.com/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/comment-page-1/#comment-351366 The Chris Pirillo Show Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/04/12/how-not-to-recover-data-from-a-vista-backup/#comment-351366 <!--%kramer-pre%--> Personal Blog Blog Comment Spammers How Not to Recover Data from a Vista Backup Recommendations for Formatting Video Podcasts ?Get a Mac? Ad Videos Text to Speech Software Pirillo?s Picks for 04/11/2007 Looking for a new Computer Keyboard Gas Prices vs. Summer Vacation Dual Monitor Duel: DVI Divinity<!--%kramer-post%--> Personal Blog Blog Comment Spammers How Not to Recover Data from a Vista Backup Recommendations for Formatting Video Podcasts ?Get a Mac? Ad Videos Text to Speech Software Pirillo?s Picks for 04/11/2007 Looking for a new Computer Keyboard Gas Prices vs. Summer Vacation Dual Monitor Duel: DVI Divinity

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