Frankfurt, Germany – European Blogger Meetup?
Ponzi and I are heading to Frankfurt, Germany in another week or so – from September 8th through the 17th, for a reason I can’t yet disclose. We have a few items on our itinerary, although I don’t have times in hand right now.
Neither of us have been to Europe before, so I sent a personal note to Nicole Simon (one of the only bloggers I know in Germany). She sent a few helpful tips in response, and I have gained permission to repost them here – including the possibility of doing some kind of impromptu German / European blogger meetup thing:
I have put together below some information if you like them. They are FYI as suggestions, nothing more. If you need any kind of information found out, just ping me so I can get you the English link for that.
And yes, I am a Flyertalk nuts and spend way to much time there to not even have to think about this to type this down … This is assuming as if you would know nothing, but in fact I do believe that many of this might be already know to you, this is a just in case.
If you have not yet booked flights, do NOT go through London. Fly directly into Fra, there are several options for that. Airport to town is a breeze. Both of you are smaller in size than I am but still, if you are not flying biz class, check first which airline you want to have and then check the flights with seatguru.com to allow for the biggest / widest / best seats possible. It will make an easier trip. I personally prefer this to be a very long flight when I fly west coast because it does not give me the hassle of changing and deal with immigration.
Hint: Seatguru does have a section called compare international economy where you can see the width and pitch. If you have any kind of status, try to build around that. If somebody else is paying, get them to book on your favorite alliance to you can collect nice miles from this. Hint: Some airlines allow for premier economy, a bit more costly, usually full miles, but nicer flying. It really makes a difference.
Decide first on the flights, check them through matrix.itasoftware.com for best option and plane and then call ASAP the call center to make sure of your seats, take a couple seat at the side, not the long row.
I hope someone is paying for your hotel, otherwise that could be a bitch. Prepare for the fact that most Americans complain about the so called tiny rooms in Europe. I always feel in the cheapest room in the US to be so much room. ;) If you do not have a hotel use hrs.de – has the biggest database. If you got hotel points, this might be a good time to use them.
Germany has perfect public transportation by train and also usually to get around town if you stay strategically intelligent. You will not have an easy time driving around if you are on your own or in town. Then: Bahn.de is German rail and while it may not be the übercheapest version to travel, it is one of the most comfortable ones. Most big towns have the main central station exactly there: absolute center, walking distance and everything.
This is their English site: www.bahn.de/p/view/international/englisch/international_guests.shtml
Entering information allows you also to get an idea about distances as you are usually NOT faster by car, even worse through traffic and everything. Frankfurt especially during fair etc is like deepest nightmare. Take the train.
Then, if you have nothing planned and after all it is your first trip to Europe, you could go back through Paris. Fra Paris is only a 5 horu train drive from Frankfurt and a 4 hour one from cologne. Cologne to Fra I think is 1.5 hours and I would say that would be one of the nicest areas to go to as a tourist and get the “oh my god this is old!” feeling (and you get of directly in town) as cologne has the Kölner Dom: flickr.com/search/?q=k%C3%B6lner%20dom&w=all – www.koelner-dom.de/index.php?id=3179&L=1
It will make a beautiful day trip, you can stroll around cologne a bit and then for example take the train from here to Paris, have a short stop there and then go back to the states. (You will be able to leave your luggage at the station, they have lockers for this.) You could fly, but you will need more time getting from and to the airport! And the direct train to Paris goes from Cologne.
Quite helpful, although neither Ponzi nor I speak a word of German. Not sure we’re going to be all that comfortable on a public transportation system without a translator nearby. Nicole also suggested something that we’re totally into:
If you LIKE it should be no problem at all to have a “Chris and Ponzi are in town” meeting, That should also be possible on a kind of shorter announcement level.
A meetup would be absolutely great! Just make sure to announce that early enough for others to be able to fly in from other countries. While Frankfurt is ugly for visiting, it would make sense to have the meetup somewhere there because it is easiest to get into town for that; by flight as well as by train. It should be easier on you as well, because if you do not know yet where you are going to be, at least you know when you are in Frankfurt.
You should decide on a tool for getting information back on how many plan to attend (upcoming would make sense) and ask for help of a local place, I can spin that too as well to get them to help. I would include somehow, just in case, that this is not hosted by you but attended by you in the sense of everybody pays for themselves.
You could go for the name of a geek dinner if you feel like it and if Ponzi would like to see more females we could go for a Girl Geek Dinner meaning males are only allowed to attend when they are accompanied by a women. ;o))
I am starting the GGD in Germany officially at the Expo, but yours would also make a great opportunity to start even in Frankfurt – if Ponzi feels up for this kind of spotlight. :) Anything is fine, and I assume as soon as you post about your trip they will run you down anyhow with suggestions ;)))
How can we go about finding a spot to meet at that is flexible enough to let quite a few invade and split bills? Does it make sense to take some suggestions and then start an Upcoming.org page for it?
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13 Comments
The Chris Pirillo Show
August 27th, 2007
at 7:05am
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joared
August 31st, 2007
at 9:23pm
Hope your first trip to Europe is wonderful. I hope to make mine, too, in the next few years — am 71.
Thanks ever so much for having Ronni Bennett at Gnomedex so she could discuss issues of importance to me. There are many sons and daughters, 30+, including my own, who do care about helping us elders join the computer world.
I delighted in adjusting my part time professional work schedule so I could watch the streaming video (first I’ve ever watched.) Found the T Flash Commenters of special interest to give me a sense of the changing attitude in the room. I wrote a well-received recap of that experience on my blog. I’m quite enthusiastic that some meaningful response has occurred for elders from Gnomedex as I read at “Time Goes By” today..
Thank you for giving us elders an opportunity to make our needs known. I’ve continued to enjoy “bLaugh” since Ronni first introduced us to you.
Comic Strip Blogger
August 31st, 2007
at 10:18pm
“one of the only bloggers I know in Germany” — heh? You know also me! (although I think of it more “live in European Union”). If you need to know something, Chris, ask me over email!
Whole western civilization and USA in majority are based on European civilization. Europe contains the biggest number of sightseeing sites too. You definitely should go outside of Germant too in Europe.
Personally I recommend you to go to your country of origin (I reckon that it is Italy? Visit in Venetia with Ponzi would be like going to fairyland) for one-day visit. Local European airlines are INCREDIBLY CHEAP and practically you can take one day free in your stay in Germany and go in the morning and come back in the evening and pay very very very little.
Personally also I don’t recommend Paris – I simply don’t like it and I was there several times, but I understand that in USA it has romantic value.
Frankfurt is a capital of EU when it comes to finances – central EU bank and Euro currency is done in Frankfurt. Also from German standpoint it is financial capital of Germany with several skyscrapers of banks. For sightseeing however Frankfurt is not the best German city…
Anyway if you need to know something, Chris, ask me over email!
Nicole Simon
September 1st, 2007
at 3:39am
*lol* i should have reread this before i said yes. ;))
The reason to suggest upcoming is to make sure that you actually get an interest count of people.
It is used already by many, so it makes it a much easier tool than others. I suggest that you set up the page because only the person entering it can edit it (but I can do that for you)
Enter dates 8-16th in it and use ‘tbd’ as the location in Frankfurt (there should be already one of those) and write in the text
- exact date tbd
- place tbd, make suggestions. ;)
Once that is in place we also can ping others to write about it.
As for finding your way and split bills – it is much easier and common in Germany to make sure that the locations knows how to deal with this as everybody will be paying for their own. ;)
Also as this is Frankfurt you will have no problem getting around with English, and public transportation in Germany has very often (especially in the big cities) announcements in audio and display of which is next stop. So as long as you take a look at the public transport map you know how many stop it takes and such. :))
Don’t be afraid, that is easy and actually works quite nicely ;)))
Please ping me back on the upcoming page if you are I should do it, because I would like to ask the German Frankfurt crowd for a sugegstion and make use of that upcoming link ;)
Nicole Simon
September 1st, 2007
at 3:53am
Oh and forgot: Just have everything as address printed out so even in case someone does not understand English (which should be unlikely in Frankfurt) you can put it in their face and ask, even in pubilc transportation.
But you will fine, trust me. ;)
Florian Heiber
September 1st, 2007
at 4:42am
Have a nice stay here in Germany. :) I’ve been to Frankfurt a few years ago. In my opinion it’s a quite nice city. I like it.
A friend of mine from Brematon — think it’s close to Seattle? — who’s in the army lives here in Germany in the same city I do and he doesn’t even speak a single word german. But he doesn’t have that much problems because most people are able to communicate in a minimal way.
Cheers
-f
Jochen Lillich
September 1st, 2007
at 10:53am
Hi Chris,
Great idea, let’s connect! And don’t fret — most German bloggers speak English at least well enough to make some conversation.
An Upcoming page seems like the best way of collecting all necessary information.
Greetings from southern Germany,
Jochen
Christian Scholz
September 1st, 2007
at 11:00am
ok, I would come! :-)
Johannes Kleske
September 1st, 2007
at 11:09am
Word just got around in the German twittersphere of your post. A few things:
1. In Frankfurt’s public transportation they announce the stations also in English so no problem for you there.
2. It’s very common to have larger groups in a pub and everybody pays for themselves.
Vidar Andesen
September 1st, 2007
at 11:13am
Interesting! I’d love to participate. As faith would have it I’m now located in Cologne and Ffurt is right around the corner. I know my way around Cologne and could probably act as a guide and/or arrange event here if wanted.I’m game.
Bernd Eckenfels
September 1st, 2007
at 2:04pm
FRA is fine *g* – in the middle of germany – as I call it .)
Nicole Simon
September 2nd, 2007
at 3:35am
Paris was more of a romantic suggestion to the part of “first ever time to Europe” and it is a trip of both of them – one time it is working well for the glamour. ;)
And no, I don’t like Paris either. ;))
Taking into account that you do might have a tighter schedule, ways to go somewhere might be limited, but you should try if you can.
Remember that despite having to factor in time to get to the airport, it is quite possible to have daytrip to nearly everywhere in Europe with 1-3 hours flying max ;)
Alita
May 5th, 2008
at 2:00pm
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