Firewire Target Disk Mode
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Did you ever notice your Firewire ports showing up in your network, and wonder why? Not only can you can also use a FireWire cable to set up a network between Mac computers, but you can use it to transfer data directly between them.
It’s easy to bring two Macs together using FireWire. Simply plug the cable into both Macs. Reboot one, while holding down the Tkey on the keyboard. As it boots back up, an icon for the drive will show up on the machine you left running.
Yes, it really is that simple - so simple, I probably overdescribed it. Despite what I said in the video, this isn’t so much a “networking” feature of FireWire. Several commenters in this post, as you will read, outline the feature in more detail.
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49 Comments
PlatonicKamel
November 4th, 2007
at 6:59pm
Most manufacturers offer FireWire, but only on the higher end hardware, or as an option rather than standard. The average person doesn’t need FireWire; only video/audio professionals, so they don’t bother including it. I use FW800 for external drives though… very handy.
Blomvik
November 4th, 2007
at 7:09pm
I’ve pretty much used Firewire to transfer larger files (sometimes 10GB -> 20GB) and it works heck of alot faster than USB 2.0.
This is because USB uses the computer’s prossessor and therefor is slower the more task you are giving it at the time, isn’t it? I’ve only heard it somewhere, but I’d like to have it confirmed. Anyone know the excact reason?
Anyway, I’m sure to try that transfer-hinty when I get home 8D
Blomvik
November 4th, 2007
at 7:12pm
Ah, I ment “to transfer larger files from external to internal or opposite
rooboy69
November 4th, 2007
at 7:13pm
wow does it have ANY file permissions?
does it have any security? or can u just steal someones mac, plug in firewire and steal all there files?
TalesOfWar
November 4th, 2007
at 7:20pm
FireWire runs rings around USB in terms of speed and efficiency. Far less overhead.
seanzageek
November 4th, 2007
at 9:39pm
loved the ending
DatVillain83
November 4th, 2007
at 11:19pm
nice tip.
Shoregrey
November 4th, 2007
at 11:43pm
Its not YOU-ESS-BEE, its pronounced USS-BUH
DerelictDreams
November 5th, 2007
at 2:21am
Gigabit Ethernet > Firewire
alwaysmc2
November 5th, 2007
at 3:03am
…but you have to restart.
rooboy69
November 5th, 2007
at 3:13am
wow does it have ANY file permissions?
does it have any security? or can u just steal someones mac, plug in firewire and steal all there files?
alwaysmc2
November 5th, 2007
at 3:15am
oh! Here’s a trick: You don’t need to use a crossover cable anymore. Also, I hooked up my desktop and tablet with an ethernet cable and got speepds of 11MB/s.
alwaysmc2
November 5th, 2007
at 3:16am
*speeds
TalesOfWar
November 5th, 2007
at 3:20am
FireWire runs rings around USB in terms of speed and efficiency. Far less overhead.
seanzageek
November 5th, 2007
at 5:39am
loved the ending
pancake292
November 5th, 2007
at 5:58am
oh noooo!!!
now he is going to talk about macs all the time!!!
:(
Cessna154
November 5th, 2007
at 5:59am
Great video Chris!!!
DatVillain83
November 5th, 2007
at 7:19am
nice tip.
RemarkableRyan
November 5th, 2007
at 7:27am
Whoo thats me! RemarkableRyan.
Shoregrey
November 5th, 2007
at 7:43am
Its not YOU-ESS-BEE, its pronounced USS-BUH
alexisicon
November 5th, 2007
at 9:01am
TTTTTTTTTTTTT
Leary
November 5th, 2007
at 9:07am
Hi Chris,
the procedure you’re describing (T key) is actually called Target Disk Mode. It essentially mounts the 2nd computer as a hard drive through firewire. But there is actual firewire networking available which you can access through the network pane and use just as you would use ethernet - without a need to restart. The two macs just need to both be set to use Firewire as their preferred network connection.
Bluejade
November 5th, 2007
at 9:19am
I am a bit confused here - you talk about networking via FW but you give an instruction on putting the other machine into target mode!
to use FW for networking, don’t restart your computer, just connect both machines with FW cable and turn on internet sharing
sander0o0
November 5th, 2007
at 9:34am
whats up with the hat, gangsta?
greg stasko
November 5th, 2007
at 9:44am
What you’re describing isn’t firewire networking - it’s firewire disk mode. Firewire networking requires setting up networking over the firewire ports and connecting the machines with a firewire cable.
DerelictDreams
November 5th, 2007
at 10:21am
Gigabit Ethernet > Firewire
panda8a24
November 5th, 2007
at 10:32am
crhis yourr videos are getting boring who wants to draw on ur ******* desktop lol
mark
November 5th, 2007
at 10:34am
Hi Chris, that’s not actually ‘networking’ - it’s called Firewire target-disk mode and it basically turns a machine booted holding down the ‘t’ key into an external firewire hardrive.
It’s useful for lot’s of things, including installing OS’s on machines that are not ’supported’ or have broken DVD drives or whatever…
But you actually CAN use firewire for networking! Say you have one machine that has an internet connection via wireless or whatever and another that doesn’t, but it does have firewire… you can get that other machine online by ’sharing’ your internet connection via firewire. The connected machine will dole out an IP address to the other via firewire/dhcp.
alwaysmc2
November 5th, 2007
at 11:03am
…but you have to restart.
alwaysmc2
November 5th, 2007
at 11:15am
oh! Here’s a trick: You don’t need to use a crossover cable anymore. Also, I hooked up my desktop and tablet with an ethernet cable and got speepds of 11MB/s.
alwaysmc2
November 5th, 2007
at 11:16am
*speeds
sharpshot411
November 5th, 2007
at 11:22am
i’ve known this for the past 2 years
David
November 5th, 2007
at 11:43am
Chris,
Love your show, both old, and new!
The tip you talk about is NOT FireWire Networking!
It is “FireWire Target Disk Mode”, it has been around for years (over Ten), first with SCSI ports (called SCSI Disk Mode), and now with FireWire ports.
It mounts the target computers drive on your Desktop, but it isn’t a “Network” connection. Here is the proper way to network a Mac with FireWire.:
Using IP over FireWire
You can set up your computer to connect to other computers over FireWire, using the Internet Protocol (IP).
To connect computers using IP over FireWire:
Connect a FireWire cable to the FireWire ports on the computers you want to connect.
Choose Apple > System Preferences, and then click Network.
Click FireWire from the network connection services list.
Enter the DNS and search domain addresses if your network requires them. Check with the network administrator or your service provider if you’re not sure what the addresses are.
Click Apply.
-David
Jesse Wallace
November 5th, 2007
at 12:32pm
Isn’t this just booting one of the computers in target disk mode? I believe that’s what the ‘T’ stands for. I know Macs have been able to do this for awhile all the way back to the SCSI-based machines.
kirrahandigoda
November 5th, 2007
at 1:05pm
hi t j its bruce from kirrahandigoda channel how do i get the only bit of apple soft ware that i have on my pc to work i an talking about itunes. no matter what i try i can not get it to burn a disc.
alazari
November 5th, 2007
at 6:34pm
Hi I am a widows user and tomorow I expect my new imac. Whould I be able to transfer my files throw the firewire?
rooboy69
November 5th, 2007
at 7:19pm
short answer yes
alazari
November 5th, 2007
at 7:21pm
thanks a lot!!! very cool
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November 5th, 2007
at 9:25pm
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stvh1
November 5th, 2007
at 10:29pm
What a putz!!!!
johnaiton
November 6th, 2007
at 6:47am
LOL, he’s drawing chris
WPGsk8Dillon
May 6th, 2008
at 10:23am
my firewire freezes my comp what can i do!!!!
Macuserppcintel
May 19th, 2008
at 12:44pm
touch yourself
Macuserppcintel
May 19th, 2008
at 12:46pm
and u can install os onto the firewire drive when its targeted
Macuserppcintel
May 19th, 2008
at 12:47pm
but this guys a noob if he didnt know that and if ur mac is in target and u put to ur ****** pc i belive it just notices its a hd but probably cant open since its not a fat or ntfs cause when i put my external up to my macbook on xp it didnt show up so i partitoned some to ****** xp and im using it ah
Macuserppcintel
May 19th, 2008
at 12:47pm
but this guys a noob if he didnt know that and if ur mac is in target and u put to ur ****** pc i belive it just notices its a hd but probably cant open since its not a fat or ntfs cause when i put my external up to my macbook on xp it didnt show up so i partitoned some to ****** xp and im using it ah
Macuserppcintel
May 19th, 2008
at 12:47pm
but this guys a noob if he didnt know that and if ur mac is in target and u put to ur ****** pc i belive it just notices its a hd but probably cant open since its not a fat or ntfs cause when i put my external up to my macbook on xp it didnt show up so i partitoned some to ****** xp and im using it ah
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