eBay Problems
I’ve been eBaying a few odd items lately, and last night some moron kid from Florida ruined half of the last minute auctions by jumping in and placing bunk bids. It was too late to block him or remove him from the bid list. As you can imagine, I was quite irate. I fired off an email to my personal eBay expert, Chuck. He responded:
There’s not much you can do unless he doesn’t pay. If he doesn’t pay within 7 days you can report him to eBay and they may suspend his account. Here’s a link with details:
pages.ebay.com/help/tp/unpaid-item-process.html
If it’s clear he’s not ever going to pay, eBay will let you offer the item to the second highest bidder. This is called a “Second Chance Offer.” You can read more about it here:
pages.ebay.com/help/sell/second_chance_offer.html
He didn’t really snipe because his bids were submitted about ten minutes before the end of the auction. Snipe bids are usually submitted in the final seconds of an auction.
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31 Comments
Left Of Center
November 26th, 2007
at 12:34pm
Chris Pirillo »eBay ProblemsPosted 3 hours ago
Cessna154
November 26th, 2007
at 9:26pm
I absolutly hate it when people do those last minute bids and then don’t pay, or try to pull some crazy scheme…
Travis
November 26th, 2007
at 11:08pm
Yea I hate when people do stuff like this. Don’t they have a life why would you go on ebay and do this. To me it don’t really sound that fun to do.
ArtC
November 27th, 2007
at 3:36am
From your rant I gather that the ‘moron kid’ has not yet failed to pay for the items.
If he does pay for them are you then going to apologise in another post for being an *******?
There is nothing wrong with so-called sniping and it is in reality a technique used by bidders in live auctions.
Go watch some REAL auctions for SERIOUS money at Christies of London and you will soon see that the smart buyers do exactly what you are whining about.
4four1ones
November 27th, 2007
at 4:53am
yarrrrrrggghhhh! i feel your pain. i have been an ebayer for a longtime and have experienced the same issues. Although, I was able to complete a 2nd chance offer. good luck.
see ya at live
four_ones
4four1ones
Joe Dempsey, Sr.
November 27th, 2007
at 6:37am
What’s a “bunk bid”. I don’t recognize the term. In context it seems like sniping but the term is new to me. Please explain. Thanks.
morrisfw
November 27th, 2007
at 7:05am
I don’t don’t do it myself, but I don’t see the problem on sniping items on ebay, as long as you pay. How do you know of the person is going to pay or not? I think you might be judging before the person actually pays for it.
efesbe
November 27th, 2007
at 11:56am
I think they are specifically targeting Chris and not just someone having fun. It appears that it was done on several of his items and not just one. I’ve noticed that usernames that are Ex. b***h or similar are some type of fake accounts that are used to screw with sellers items.
deadendroad7755
November 27th, 2007
at 12:01pm
I agree, it’s pretty stupid
John Buffam
November 27th, 2007
at 12:45pm
Chris, I have this happen also, just offer it to the next highest bidder or Ebay usually lets you put it up for auction again since the dufus wont pay
Deviance
November 27th, 2007
at 12:56pm
Yeah this is why I am not a big ebay fan. I was bidding on a laptop one time and I was in the lead and the last 15 seconds somebody did a bid on it. I tell you what I was mad. It was a sweet laptop too :(
mhs2011
November 27th, 2007
at 1:32pm
That happened to me with my gamecube i was selling. I sold it for $70, he never paid, i reported him, tried the second offer, that didnt work, most of the other people allready got a different one. so then i just re listed it, when i finally sold it, they charged me for 3 listing fee’s. i don’t like ebay very much any more. Just be careful with those bidders that have the 2 or less rankings.
mlmpro
November 27th, 2007
at 2:55pm
What is up with snipers, ebay lets you set your maximum bid, so what is up with this last minute junk? not sure i understand, either your bid is the highest or it is not… maybe someone can explain…
Plus the other day i was reading an ebay item listed and at the end was a link to a snipe program. Ebay needs to suspend these accounts. i think ebay needs to change its policies, first i would require every ebay user to submit a $50, $75 or even a $100 deposit, a security deposit you will lose if you submit a bogus bid or if you post items for sale that you do not have.
Then if you submit a bogus bid you lose your deposit and your account is closed until you resubmit your deposit, which would be twice your initial deposit. Your deposit doubles every time you account is closed!
Teqnilogik
November 27th, 2007
at 3:25pm
I’m guilty of sniping some auctions on eBay but I always pay the seller. Bidding on an auction and not paying is not right and very immature.
NeoYoshi1
November 27th, 2007
at 4:44pm
This happened to me one time. Some random idiot just bids on my item at the last minute and then never pays for it! It makes me so mad that people in this world have nothing better to do then try to make other people angry.
joel
November 27th, 2007
at 6:38pm
hey chris. I’ve never been ebaying before but that doesnt sound so good. your bidding for something and the some idiot comes and puts some high bid trying to be funny even though he’s not gonna buy it. I think that ebay has to do something about these last minute snipe bidders.
SgtSavage166
November 27th, 2007
at 7:33pm
I hate when people do that….its just sad
Planet Northern Voice
November 28th, 2007
at 4:15am
Nothing is wrong with either of them… in fact, they aren’t really even old. Then it hit me. Why not throw these up on Ebay in auctions? Related Content: The Blogosphere Has Jumped the Shark eBay Stories Atom Auctions A Victim of eBay FraudeBay ProblemsThe Highest Bidder Your eBay Auctions in RSS How to Make Money Online Isabella Fiore Handbags eBay Auctions for Business read more
Jon
November 28th, 2007
at 6:57am
To those questioning sniping or don’t grok why. It’s because of the bozos out there that have no life and “competitive bidding” is how they feel alive. Seriously - haven’t any of you noticed how sometimes people will pay way more for an item on eBay than you can get it at a B&M? Their egos get wrapped up in a bidding war - it’s almost like the worlds most expensive video game - “Hold off the bidders and take home the grand prize!”.
Sheesh. So rather than get one of these morons unterbrain involved you simply wait and snipe at the last minute. To those beefing about losing a snipe - well - there’s a simple rule for that. Bid what you are willing to pay. The price will only go up enough to secure the bid - you’re not out the whole amount if it can be had for less. Learn how to work effectively folks….
akb_in_CO
November 28th, 2007
at 7:33am
I agree that the account particulars and bid history of ebay member ninjaman850 would tend to make me doubt that secure and permanent payment is coming anytime soon.
As an ebay buyer and seller, I find “Second Chance Offer” has its merits, but I may never buy from “Second Chance Offer”. This is because the price cannot be modified from my highest bid placed. I feel “Second Chance Offer” should be made at the highest bid which would have existed HAD THE NONPAYING BIDDER’S BIDS, ALL OF THEM, BEEN COMPLETELY REMOVED. Alas, in the case of the so-called bunk bids placed on l0ckergn0me’s items, only single bids were placed. Chris will be learning how to apply to have ebay end-of-item charges reversed on the unpaid items.
To respond to efesbe, when ebay bidder ids appear like b***h it’s not the real bidder id but a programming measure taken by ebay to protect bidder privacy. You’ll often see real ids be replaced by masked versions on expensive items.
Shom
November 28th, 2007
at 9:50am
Chris, I think you may have jumped the gun here, unless you have a very valid reason to think he is not going to pay, which you have not really elaborated. I regularly bid on ebay and other auctions. Most regulars would wait till the last moments to put in their bids so as to have abetter chance of winning and not pushing the price up. The fairness of this depends on how you look at it. So snipping is a part of a regular auction.
Non paying bidders are morons and are a actuall pests. They deserve all the bad mouthing and curses.
Wait few days and see if he pays up before really badmouthing. Maybe you had a tough day and letting off steam. Would you keep us updated if he pays?
Ron S
November 28th, 2007
at 2:51pm
Hey, it’s an auction, so anyone can bid at anytime. If this makes you uncomfortable, set a fixed price (or Buy It Now), and require immediate payment. That will solve the problem, because the first to buy at the price specficied AND pay, gets it.
KY_Wildcat
November 28th, 2007
at 3:40pm
Chris… I know how you feel. This happened to me when I was selling a projector, don’t worry though! eBay USUALLY takes care of it. If not, take it up with PayPal. They will really crack down on the guy. Hope all goes well.
TXBrad
November 29th, 2007
at 4:56am
I would be ticked off too, Chris. Thankfully, I have never had that happen to me yet.
TXBrad
November 29th, 2007
at 11:35pm
I would be ticked off too, Chris. Thankfully, that hasn’t happen to me yet.
Ray
November 30th, 2007
at 2:20pm
whats sad is if the seller really needs the money and someone comes along and jerks them around then they have to start back from square
one unless the second highest bidder contacts them about buying anyway
Cliffystones
December 8th, 2007
at 7:59am
I always buy by finding the (description) item I want in search. Then I find the particular ones that are ending first. Then I wait and see about 5 minutes before those are going to end and where the price is at. Then if this is below what I’d pay, then I wait and place the maximum I would pay in the last 60 seconds.
Win some lose some. Sniping? You’re upset about this? Well it is completely within the legal and ethical standards for EBay (or any auction for that matter), so if you don’t like it, tuff Shinola!, don’t use auctions.
And if you don’t pay well, 90 days in prison will put a stop to that!!
no12354
December 26th, 2007
at 2:02pm
wow that is pretty irritating
Liberator
December 27th, 2007
at 2:35pm
for christmas i was trying to by a rugby hat for my sister i looked every were. i finally found one i won the bid and i waited a couple days and about 3 days before christmas the person sent me a message saying there was a run in it. this made me mad because they could have told be this earlier and a had no time to find another one. so my sister got nothing for christmas from me.
Techmaster
March 28th, 2008
at 9:30pm
I’ve gotten afraid to even go near ebay lately. I spent several hundred bucks on a music sampler a few years ago, and never even got the item. And now there are just way too many scammers on there, you can’t trust anybody these days. :(
Blowmytrumpet
April 13th, 2008
at 5:44pm
I have no problem with sniping. It’s how most auctions are won. What does annoy me however is when bidders win a paypal only auction in the last few seconds, and then don’t pay for a day or so. You’re at your PC, you won the auction - now click the god damn PAY button!