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	<title>Comments on: Does Web 2.0 Really Exist?</title>
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		<title>By: Zavrion</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/does-web-20-really-exist/#comment-682231</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Web 2.0 is just a term that identifies a generation of the internet in its current state. The term was coined in 2004, which really was the year that the internet became more then just information. 

In my opinion I believe that an internet generation lasts as long as the market it represents is not saturated. In the case of Web 2.0 we are getting to the point where every social niche has a network. I think the term will become less relevant in the next year or two. 

Web 2.0 is more of a Renaissance than anything. That being said, I don&#039;t think any other generation of the internet in the near future will be as important as this one.

@DevLano
You are probably right about Web 3.0. However, I think it will be a year or two before that becomes critically important. We are getting their, but we aren&#039;t quite there yet. Some people consider the UMPC one of Microsofts greatest failures.  When really it was just way a head of its time. 

Personally, I think in 2010 or 2011 will be laughing at the fact that Engadget had the UMPC as one of Microsofts 10 greatest failures. After all, a smart phone is just an underpowered UMPC. The  more you add PC features to a phone the closer it becomes to a UMPC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Web 2.0 is just a term that identifies a generation of the internet in its current state. The term was coined in 2004, which really was the year that the internet became more then just information. </p>
<p>In my opinion I believe that an internet generation lasts as long as the market it represents is not saturated. In the case of Web 2.0 we are getting to the point where every social niche has a network. I think the term will become less relevant in the next year or two. </p>
<p>Web 2.0 is more of a Renaissance than anything. That being said, I don&#8217;t think any other generation of the internet in the near future will be as important as this one.</p>
<p>@DevLano<br />
You are probably right about Web 3.0. However, I think it will be a year or two before that becomes critically important. We are getting their, but we aren&#8217;t quite there yet. Some people consider the UMPC one of Microsofts greatest failures.  When really it was just way a head of its time. </p>
<p>Personally, I think in 2010 or 2011 will be laughing at the fact that Engadget had the UMPC as one of Microsofts 10 greatest failures. After all, a smart phone is just an underpowered UMPC. The  more you add PC features to a phone the closer it becomes to a UMPC.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are so on point about Web 2.0.  There&#039;s no such thing IMO.  As far as I can tell, what people call Web 2.0 is just innovative ways of using things that have been around for years.

We&#039;ve seen some great developments over the last several years; AJAX, the advances in Open Source, continued penetration of tools like PHP and MySQL combined with easier access to affordable hosting, and tools like Joomla and WordPress which greatly expand the ability of individuals and organizations to get their message out.

All of these are great, but the phrase &quot;Web 2.0&quot; misleads the public  and the non-tech-savvy media by implying there was a sudden shift from old to new, which of course never happened.  It has been a gradual evolution which is still happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so on point about Web 2.0.  There&#8217;s no such thing IMO.  As far as I can tell, what people call Web 2.0 is just innovative ways of using things that have been around for years.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve seen some great developments over the last several years; AJAX, the advances in Open Source, continued penetration of tools like PHP and MySQL combined with easier access to affordable hosting, and tools like Joomla and WordPress which greatly expand the ability of individuals and organizations to get their message out.</p>
<p>All of these are great, but the phrase &#8220;Web 2.0&#8243; misleads the public  and the non-tech-savvy media by implying there was a sudden shift from old to new, which of course never happened.  It has been a gradual evolution which is still happening.</p>
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		<title>By: m7king</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/does-web-20-really-exist/#comment-682115</link>
		<dc:creator>m7king</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 03:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not too sure if web 2.0 exists...that subject is a little cloudy for my standards. Web 2.0 seems pretty cool though :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not too sure if web 2.0 exists&#8230;that subject is a little cloudy for my standards. Web 2.0 seems pretty cool though :)</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 03:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe Web 2.0 exists, it is just a name for the ugraded platform that is the web. And thus Web 2.0 does exist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Web 2.0 exists, it is just a name for the ugraded platform that is the web. And thus Web 2.0 does exist</p>
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		<title>By: zach hubbs</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love all ur vids, i like this one alot too.</description>
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		<title>By: Ryne Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryne Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 04:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, I loved watching this clip. The fact you&#039;re no. 1 over pop star Chris Brown is so baller!</description>
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		<title>By: woolf2k</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 03:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope so.... I mean... there is a Web 3.0 now so there must be a 2.0... 

aye... marketing where would we ever do with out it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope so&#8230;. I mean&#8230; there is a Web 3.0 now so there must be a 2.0&#8230; </p>
<p>aye&#8230; marketing where would we ever do with out it?</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The existence of the label &quot;Web 2.0&quot; irritates me to no end.  If &quot;Web 2.0&quot; actually existed, then &quot;Car 2.0&quot; would exist.  In my view, what is being addressed as &quot;Web 2.0&quot; is the equivalent of the automotive phenomenon of power windows and remote keyless entry systems becoming common in new cars, or the addition of airbags, seatbelts and safety glass to cars.  It has nothing to do with there being a completely &quot;new car&quot;, it&#039;s simply a change in the interface with the car that adds functionality.  The basic underpinnings of what a car is and what a car does are all still the same.  

All that the label &quot;Web 2.0&quot; addresses are evolutionary changes to capabilities and services that already existed, not revolutionary ones.  Facebook, for instance, is merely a combination of an IM service with a search engine and photo gallery.  Twitter is just a more invasive form of IM.  Web cams have existed for a long time, so the 24/7 teleconference is just an extension that came from the adoption of higher-speed Internet connectivity, which doesn&#039;t make the waste of bandwidth as prohibitive as it once was when streamed video ate up the capacity of the entire pipe.  None of this is revolutionary, worthy of identification as a &quot;second Internet&quot;, as the label &quot;Web 2.0&quot; would indicate.  It&#039;s merely a marketing ploy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The existence of the label &#8220;Web 2.0&#8243; irritates me to no end.  If &#8220;Web 2.0&#8243; actually existed, then &#8220;Car 2.0&#8243; would exist.  In my view, what is being addressed as &#8220;Web 2.0&#8243; is the equivalent of the automotive phenomenon of power windows and remote keyless entry systems becoming common in new cars, or the addition of airbags, seatbelts and safety glass to cars.  It has nothing to do with there being a completely &#8220;new car&#8221;, it&#8217;s simply a change in the interface with the car that adds functionality.  The basic underpinnings of what a car is and what a car does are all still the same.  </p>
<p>All that the label &#8220;Web 2.0&#8243; addresses are evolutionary changes to capabilities and services that already existed, not revolutionary ones.  Facebook, for instance, is merely a combination of an IM service with a search engine and photo gallery.  Twitter is just a more invasive form of IM.  Web cams have existed for a long time, so the 24/7 teleconference is just an extension that came from the adoption of higher-speed Internet connectivity, which doesn&#8217;t make the waste of bandwidth as prohibitive as it once was when streamed video ate up the capacity of the entire pipe.  None of this is revolutionary, worthy of identification as a &#8220;second Internet&#8221;, as the label &#8220;Web 2.0&#8243; would indicate.  It&#8217;s merely a marketing ploy.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Teachman</title>
		<link>http://chris.pirillo.com/does-web-20-really-exist/#comment-681889</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Teachman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post with some great answers. Totally agree with you that its more a renaissance then a full 2.0. Once the internet gets an App store, THEN we can call it 2.0 =]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post with some great answers. Totally agree with you that its more a renaissance then a full 2.0. Once the internet gets an App store, THEN we can call it 2.0 =]</p>
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		<title>By: How do you Withstand the Hell we Live In? - Geeks!</title>
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		<dc:creator>How do you Withstand the Hell we Live In? - Geeks!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DevLano</title>
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		<dc:creator>DevLano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like yeah, it really exists, lol.

http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+web+2.0&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like yeah, it really exists, lol.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+web+2.0&#038;ie=utf-8&#038;oe=utf-8&#038;aq=t&#038;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&#038;client=firefox-a" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+web+2.0&#038;ie=utf-8&#038;oe=utf-8&#038;aq=t&#038;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&#038;client=firefox-a</a></p>
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		<title>By: DevLano</title>
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		<dc:creator>DevLano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Web 2.0 has to do with the actual construction of the sites them selves. 

Web 1.0 was way back when. Where static pages just linked to each other, and there was no dynamic code generation or data retrieval taking place.

Web 2.0 is when application based languages were created. ASP/PHP/Coldfusion and others. Using dynamic page includes and utilizing database systems to store and sort the sites content. THAT&#039;S web 2.0.

Web 3.0 is the mobile landscape.(or so I&#039;ve been told) which will become web 2.0 again cause phone browsers will just end up being current browsers. and things like flash lite won&#039;t be a big deal. That&#039;s my guess any ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Web 2.0 has to do with the actual construction of the sites them selves. </p>
<p>Web 1.0 was way back when. Where static pages just linked to each other, and there was no dynamic code generation or data retrieval taking place.</p>
<p>Web 2.0 is when application based languages were created. ASP/PHP/Coldfusion and others. Using dynamic page includes and utilizing database systems to store and sort the sites content. THAT&#8217;S web 2.0.</p>
<p>Web 3.0 is the mobile landscape.(or so I&#8217;ve been told) which will become web 2.0 again cause phone browsers will just end up being current browsers. and things like flash lite won&#8217;t be a big deal. That&#8217;s my guess any ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Web Developers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Web Developers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;Chris Pirillo Would You Like to Fight Yoda or Darth Vader? What’s Your Favorite Podcast? How Do You Clean Your LCD Screens?Does Web 2.0 Really Exist?What’s Your Favorite Video App for the iPhone?&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
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