Do You Think Windows Will Last?
There’s been an interesting discussion going on over at Geeks surrounding the future of Windows. There are hot tempers on both sides of this coin, so I had to ask some other friends to chime in with what they thought, as well.
As long as it comes with almost every PC you buy..then yes – Dennis Bjørn Petersen
at least until the computing paradigm migrates away from single machines to cloud computing/ubiquitous computing – Victor Ganata
as with everything, widows will eventually cease to exist. But, for the foreseeable future, windows will be the preferred OS for business. Mac OS just doesn’t provide the flexibility and security that corporations seek. – Bob Blunk
Bob: I think you need to clarify that. MacOS doesn’t provide security and flexibility? – Dennis Bjørn Petersen
dennis: he didn’t say OSX doesn’t have any, consider the ease at which you can lock a system or user down with active directory group policies allows an immensely flexible transition of staff between job roles and the securities required per role. Still, a computer system is only as secure and flexible as the user – have a dumb user, you’ll have holes and problems regardless of what OS you throw at them. Also, you’ll find that the overwealming majority of software security holes come from 3rd party apps. – alphaxion
also, something that I *never* see in "anything vs windows" arguements is commentary on corporate network structure and use… can those of you who have extensive knowledge on linux and OSX networking provide comparisons with the active directory integration you get in the windows world. – alphaxion
@victor cloud computing will never take 100% in the corporate world – they’ve been trying to push cloud computing for decades now, from IBM’s centralised servers and MS terminal servers with dumb clients to Suns "the network is the computer" tag line. Some companies will use it, the majority will be very reluctant to allow their precious data to be elsewhere and/or to allow net downtime to cripple their entire office staff. – alphaxion
@alphaxion of course it’ll never be 100%. There are lots of mainframes and servers out there that aren’t connected to the Internet, and maybe aren’t even connected to the corporate intranet because they deem the data to sensitive. But those systems probably aren’t even running Windows in any case, and as technology continues to advance, the dominant paradigm is certain to change – Victor Ganata
I don’t deny that some companies will go for it – just look at services such as message labs anti spam or mail serving and archiving companies. I just don’t think it’s going to be the massive sea change people are making it out to be. My job entails that I keep an eye on this just in case it turns out to be a better solution than in house development and services. We are looking at moving our phone system to the "cloud" so to speak. My experience suggests that it’ll be a few things rather than everything. – alphaxion
What do you think? Where is Windows – and Microsoft – headed?
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26 Comments
simon robic
November 16th, 2008
at 12:16pm
on se demande de plus en plus ce qu’il adviendra de Windows dans les prochaines années
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November 12th, 2008
at 3:28pm
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Bryan Rovetti
November 11th, 2008
at 1:28am
People are creatures of habit. It will take a new development of montrous proportions on behalf of the OSX or open source community to overcome Windows. Not having any Mac experience this decade, I dont’ know what that might be for OSX. Linux’s biggest draw back is not really their fault. Most major hardware manufacturers wont release their drivers for Linux for various reasons (scared of open source and/or in Microsofts pocket). If that hurdle is overcome, I believe the Windows/Linux user proportions will shift dramatically.
Darren
November 11th, 2008
at 7:31am
I don’t think Windows is going anywhwre just yet. I have to agree with a lot of people that they did a p**s poor job with Vista. But it has shown inprovment since the release of SP1. I think that the Vista argument should be left to settle. As most of the attention is going to go with Windows 7. Which I think is going to be a mayjor contender. Microsoft aint the kind of company that likes to admite defeat and in some way manage to pull it back. This might be a little of topic. But if you remember the original Xbox that was surrounded with complaint’s. A lot of people said it would be Microsoft’s only consol and they didn’t belong in the consol market. Yet they have proven people wrong this time round with the success of Xbox360. Back on topic now Windows XP was a crowning master pieace and I dont think anyone can say it aint stood the test of time. So we all know that Microsoft can deliver the good’s that users need.
wdog
November 11th, 2008
at 2:53pm
Bob Blunk…are you serious?
Check out this thing called the internet and open your mind. You might actually learn a few things in the process.
daren
November 11th, 2008
at 5:03pm
i’m just a layman. no where near a comp geek. but the company i work and its a major powertool co.
is still about 5years behind the cutting edge of computer world so we still use dos for some processes. its a matter of cost effectiveness. and this is true for most buss.
so if windows stays user friendly it will be around for a while.
and change as needed.
James
November 11th, 2008
at 8:37pm
If Microsoft doesn’t stay what will happen to MSN, Hotmail, Windows, DOS, the hole history of computers? Personally I think the way Microsoft is going is down hill, but they will pick up soon. If Bill Gates steps back into the ball game, we will all see a boom in Microsoft.
Mike
November 11th, 2008
at 10:25pm
There’s mixed feelings when discussing the future of Windows, I mean Windows 7 promises great things, but so did Vista. When talking about the future of Windows or any OS for that matter we should look at how the Interface looks. Believe me, if its hard and complicated looking your apt to depart from it.
Cloud Computing is scenario for future networking, but we will still need an OS like Windows, or Mac OS to run the connections to the cloud. Microsoft has Windows Azure, and operating system in the cloud which will run all its cloud services. So the future of Windows is still cloudy at the moment, no pun intended, but its true. We really can’t say until we see what happens with the next version.
I guess the simplest way to put is, as long as Windows is in demand it’s got a future.
Chad
November 11th, 2008
at 10:47pm
I agree with bob on this one. Windows is definatley more “tweakable” than OSx when it comes to business. As for home use, I think mac and Linux will start to dominate purley because of their user friendly UI. But windows will not be wiped out anytime in the near future.
@elranchero
November 11th, 2008
at 10:58pm
windows is doomed.
4) msft has run as a walled garden from the beginning.
Hellllllllo? Is anybody over there??
3) MS windows cannot be certified as secure because the source code for MS Windows is
a) locked in a vault. No auditors are allowed to look at the source code.
b) or perhaps the source has been lost for years (shhh!!)
2) MSFT does not listen to their customers anymore, because they have become arrogant and think they are smarter than their customers.
and the number one reason why Microsoft is doomed
1) UNCLE FESTER NEEDS TO STEP ASIDE
John Goettle
November 11th, 2008
at 11:01pm
The Furture of Windows is Corporate Developer and Gaming.
Tony C. Hall
November 11th, 2008
at 11:33pm
First, nothing lasts forever. But going back to the early days when every computer had a different OS and nothing talked to each other, it’s going to take something truly amazing to make the corporations switch. I believe if something is going to take over in the near future, it is going to have to be (at least initially) compatible with Windows. I don’t see any company just making a huge switch to a brand new operating system if it wont easily talk to other systems. Quite honestly, the only reason Apple has gotten as far in the door as they have in corporate America is because you can run Windows and Office on them. This is not a fanboy perspective because I don’t love either platform. It is just cold hard facts. Too many companies have invested too much money in Windows/Microsoft solutions to just switch. I remember before the iPhone 3G came out, people were talking about what Apple was going to do to make the iPhone more marketable to corporate America. Many said that they would never put Microsoft inferior software in them but thats exactly what they did when they licensed Activsync. So, as I said before, whoever replaces windows is going to have to be compatible to Windows in the onset. Just my 2-cents.
Emmanuel Huna
November 11th, 2008
at 11:49pm
Mac OS marketshare is 3.26% percent worldwide, 6.26% percent in the US. Not many folks run Linux/Solaris, so this leaves Windows with over 93% to 97% percent in the U.S and worldwide.
It’s not only the corporate security – I think it comes down to basic pricing. Many tech journalists can allows themselves to spend 3 to 10 times more for a Mac than a Dell laptop (e.g. $500 for a Dell vs $1,200 to $3,000 for a Mac).
But it doesn’t make any sense and most people won’t.
I’m a PC.
Emmanuel Huna
November 11th, 2008
at 11:55pm
Here are the numbers from Q1 2008 to back my comments up:
http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2008/04/24/mac-q1-2008-market-share-3-26-percent-worldwide-6-26-percent-in-the-us.aspx
It’s funny that Windows is probably running on over 90% of all computers worldwie and in the U.S. yet the discussion is whether Windows will disappear. Stop believing the false Mac ads.
djbrigidope
November 12th, 2008
at 3:35am
i think windows has it’s place in the computing world. the way i see it, you have windows and osx as the main two OSes out there (home and business use). there isn’t enough support from software developers for a non windows/non osx operating system to gain much of a foothold in the os market share.
and i really dont see apple replacing windows as the leading OS because
a) apple products are pricey
b) OSX is only available on apple machines (psystar excluded)
so while apple may be cutting into some of the profits for 1 piece companies like dell and hp, there are computer users out there that want the flexibility and diversity of a windows machine that allows for more user customizable component selection.
o0Splitpaw0o
November 12th, 2008
at 4:31am
“as with everything, widows will eventually cease to exist. But, for the foreseeable future, windows will be the preferred OS for business. Mac OS just doesn’t provide the flexibility and security that corporations seek. – Bob Blunk”
I work at a corporation, We use all 4 platforms, depending of the department or job function. That was F.U.D.
Ivan
November 12th, 2008
at 11:01am
Will Windows last? No.
As Bob Blunk pointed out, everything dies. It’s the one real constant, taxes aside :-/
Eventually, everyone will give in and create a Google account. Google will create / market their web-based operating system that allows everyone (even MAC users) the flexibility of using Microsoft-type applications through their Google account.
Because people will not NEED Microsoft to run their computers, manufacturers will jump at the opportunity to lower overhead / production costs and provide [a new] open-source OS and Firefox for web browsing.
The death of Windows will boost MAC sales. Apple (AAPL) and Google (GOOG) shareholders [today] will enjoy attractive returns over the long haul because both are in the information business and we are in the Information Age.
…that’s my 2 cents.
mike moran
November 12th, 2008
at 12:29pm
I think Windows is on the way out and it’s long over due. For those of you who haven’t seen the today’s linuxes, please do so. Simply type Linux or Ubuntu into google.
Amir H.
November 12th, 2008
at 5:49pm
Looks like people have many mixed opinions on Windows’ future :) Thanks for keeping me up-to-date Chris :-)
Ray
November 12th, 2008
at 8:27pm
Depends on how much heat and cold they keep in or out.
Kenny Page
November 13th, 2008
at 4:41pm
An interesting question, and not one that I think anybody can truly answer at this stage.
What I would like to see, however, is the following situation:
The immediate cessation of development on IE8. The development of performance and security improvements in IE7, along with the dropping of toolbar/BHO support, to be called IE7.1. This would then be pitched as the web browser for the business user, whether in a large corporation or microbusiness.
A business version of Windows would then ship with IE7.1, integrated Anti Virus,integrated Office, but no aero glass or oher crapware aimed at the spotty teen market. Let go back to the flat, chiselled steel look – why do business PC’s need 256Mb/512Mb graphics cards cum fan heaters?! get real!
A home version of Windows would then ship with a webkit based browser, full media centre functionality, integrated AV plus an Xbox360 VM.
The Xbox would also be upgraded, with the same webkit based browser, an email client and full media centre functionality.
The Zune? Bin it…..you’re wasting your time there chaps – Apple has won that market and moved on!
Hows about an XBox portable, however? In addition to playing games, this should also be an idea “portal” for the full media centre functionality in the Xbox or home version of windows
Shall I carry on?
Francis
November 13th, 2008
at 11:07pm
I believe it depends on the attitude of the user. If you want flexible customization and programing over a clumsy interface then go with windows. However Mac OS X users have a very simple interface that works perfectly. This is sacrificed for little consumer customization however many people fail to realize that Mac OS X is very customizible only if you know how to. Windows appears more flexible as many users have hot use to it and learnt dos. Also how about iPhone 2.0. This is becoming a very popular platform and will one day take over windows mobile. People will get bored with windows and want a switch. That is whyevery couple of years a different party gets into power as people become more desperate for change. That’s why I swaped!
Toastpaint
November 17th, 2008
at 3:38am
I think Windows 7 will bring Windows back to the light. It really is a good O/S, and it has big potential. Macintosh and Linux have their markets, but they will never majorly enter the markets of Windows.
gary bing
October 25th, 2009
at 1:14pm
When I sold computers it was mostly for home users first time computer. All the hype about windows 95 was just that. I preferred to sell the first time customers home use a Mac. Then as now my customers for a Macf had not the issues of pestering attacks. But then I started to steer my customers away from them (it hurt my pocket book) because I was very afraid of Apple’s finances back then and the Steve Jobs fiasco. I got out. Apple was saved by the Ipod and Steve Jobs has returned from his medical leave. But what will happen when Jobs job is no longer? That is a bigger factor than Bill Gates retirement. We may have only one auto company, one software source and one media conglomerate (we’re down to 3 as it is) I see the light at the end of the tunnel and it’s going dim from all the bureaucracy and planned obsolescence we get from monopolies..
matthew gaylard
October 27th, 2009
at 4:13pm
Taking into consideration the following:
1) Linux currently has a tiny share of the desktop market
2) The financial incentives to develop end-user applications for the Linux OS are limited
And yet …
1) In terms of UI design, stability, and security, Linux is at the very least competitive with Windows and OSX – and in some respects, superior.
2) There is an extraordinary range of applications available for Linux, and they’re actually easier to obtain and install via a single repository than is the case with Windows
One has to conclude that the open source model of development has shown a level of success that is disproportionate to its market share, with the implication that the quality and range of open source software will increase exponentially as the user base expands.
At some point – and I believe that this will be sooner rather than later – OS market share will more accurately reflect the relative merits of open versus closed source development. That point will probably be brought closer by underlying shifts in technology … such as the much needed shift to OS agnostic cloud computing.
And it’s a good thing because – to take the “big picture” view for a moment – as a species we need to embrace the sort of collaborative ethos exemplified by open source development in a hurry as we hurtle towards an increasingly alarming series of challenges in terms of climate change and environmental degradation, peak oil, unsustainably inequitable wealth distributions that can only be resolved by fundamentally rearranging the economic basis for social co-operation.
matthew gaylard
October 27th, 2009
at 4:17pm
I miswrote myself slightly – software for most Linux distributions e.g. Ubuntu is installed from multiple repositories through a single, coherent framework and user interface that resolves library dependencies