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“I will never join BrightKite. Ever. It’s not for me. Believe it or not, I actually value aspects of my privacy. I’ll let you know where I am, but not through that kind of service. As far as you’re concerned: I’m at home in front of my computer.”

I posted to that to FriendFeed a few minutes ago, reminded of the note that Eric Rice posted the other day: “My wife signed up for Brightkite and snarked immediately: ‘How the f*ck do I use it?’ Meaning: Isn’t it arrogant that sites just assume everyone knows how to use everything? Instructional design, indeed.”

To me, it’s not about the design of BrightKite that turns me off - it’s about the concept, itself.

  1. Other than my wife, does anybody really care where I am? Seriously?!
  2. Unless I’m going out to connect with a specific group of people (assumed friends), I really don’t need to “check in” with the rest of the Internet. If I do, I’m going to use the service that most of my friends are on - or communicate directly only WITH specific individuals.
  3. For the most part, I don’t care where you are - and if I do care, I’ll ask you.
  4. It’s a stalker’s dream come true. HELLO?!
  5. Do I need a specific service to tell everyone? You might care about what I’m doing, but why would I give up my specific location? It’s the same reason I never picked up on the Dodgeball meme.

If you like BrightKite, great - but there’s nothing compelling about it for me. You can bet that if I ever start using that kind of software or service, I’ll be supremely selective with whom I choose to add as a “friend.”

20 Comments

this one guy on Twitter uses it and it’s kinda useless. i don’t really need to know where some place is locates unless i actually live there.

I think over all it’s a pretty decent concept. That is if you really feel it necessary to know where everyone is at all times or vice versa. It’s definitely not something I will ever join either though.

I get you point and to each their own. I’m having fun with Brightkite. Living in a large metropolitan area I have been able to connect with others who live or work near me. It’s alot of fun because since most of us twitter, use brightkite and live in the same city we automatically have some things in common. For example, one of my “twitter” friends ended up just being major intersection from me today so we had a chance to meet up. We didn’t, but we could have :)

The lack of privacy could become an issue but for me I am not concerned. If someone wants to stalk me, let ‘em.

Corey Charette

June 14th, 2008
at 6:13pm

You really didn’t give us any points on to why you won’t use it. You haven’t tried the website, so you really can’t say that it’s not worth using. Honestly, you are a tech guy you should be trying new websites, good or bad, and let the world know what you think of them.

Judging things without trying isn’t really good practice.

Hi Chris,

I jumped on the BrightKite bandwagon about a week ago wanting to know what all the fuss was about. Though I’ve gone all sorts of different places, I think I’ve actually only updated twice. First, like you, I don’t think a lot of people would &*care* where I was at any given moment in time and, secondly, I don’t really want random strangers knowing my exact location all the time.

I can see some use in BrightKite but more as a precursor to more advanced mobile device based services than a stand alone text based interface. I can see something like this being paired with a program sitting on a GPS enabled phone that automatically updates say every 30 minutes. While it’d be spooky, I could also see it being sort of useful. That’s another thing I don’t like about BrightKite - it isn’t convenient enough to use. I have to *remember* to update and that isn’t always an easy thing to do.

So, while I can see the potential usefulness of BrightKite and services like it, I don’t think you’ll ever see me update that often. It just doesn’t offer enough value as opposed to the work I need to do to use it or the “creepy factor” it brings.

I have been trying to use brightkite and I have to tell you, it’s value is really limited. Basically all I use it for is to post photo Tweets from my iphone.

Other than that, it has been a big fat goose egg. And this is from someone who is giving it a real college try.

I’m with ya’ brother.

Nice post, Chris. Those are all precisely why I will never sign up for BrightKite either. You’ve said it better than I could have.

I’ve got an account… but I’m not so self-absorbed as to think everyone wants to know where I am at all times.

And having been stalked in real life twice, once surviving because the gun near-miraculously jammed, I don’t put my full address there - nor do I seem to be able to remember to check into any place so much as check out of. More like the “oh yeah, um, I’m leaving the library” effect.

I’m certainly not its target user - but I can see where if I had salesguys in the field it could be a fabulous app.

I have been enjoying BrightKite for a few weeks now. I understand where you are coming from, but don’t forget you can use it sparingly for different reasons. I use it also as something to track where and what I did for the day. Sometimes, I add where I am at after I have just left, which also helps with the stalking aspect. I never notify when I am home. That being said, I do forget to ‘check in’ 98% of the time. Also, it might be a matter of time where I get bored with it. It’s still too new to really know fully how I feel about it.

I think location notification will be something that gets more popular and widely used in the near future. Look at what they are doing with the iPhone… friends can be stalkers too!!

It’s not aimed at you. It’s for the teen crowd. When you were in highschool and you had 200 peers in the same building with you, friending them all up on a service that would let you know where the party was at after school is an invaluable social tool.

30/40 something year old men like you and I have no use for these types of things really than the novelty. 12-17 year old kids do.

sounds really scary to me.

Chris,

I know it doesn’t seem that important but I have made a few friends from BK, that I follow on Twitter.

The ideal thing would be if your Cell Phone GPSd your location to BK at the push of a button. Imagine being in Vegas for one of those things, and click, wow I’m in the same bar with Dvorak. now what corner is he hiding in?

Ok maybe that’s not who you’d follow or want to know where he is. But on the other hand, maybe….

Wow, I had never heard of that site before your post. I’m with you on this, there is enough weirdness out there without it to be able to pinpoint me.

Lol, well it’s the same thing as Loopt, I got my profile on brightkite, it seemed like an interesting idea, but yeah you got huge points, and besides, it doesn’t work that well if you don’t have like all your good friends on it, so I agree with you.

I use it but feel ridiculous doing so, since I work at home, it’s like ‘checking in at starbucks lol’, like that MATTERS.

I have discovered maybe one person near me, but yeah, my usage is falling off because I’m taking ownership of how much signal and noise I produce.

I do check in, not with my exact location, but with the zipcode in this one-zipcode town, and that puts me in the middle of a lake. Heh.

BTW, my wife, who is more than capable of figuring it out, hasn’t bothered checking in because well, when she’s out and about, she has stuff to do.

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Chris,

Thanks for your post. As one of the founders of Brightkite, I thought I’d chime in and offer my perspective. The points that you make are valid, and I’d like to address some of them below:

- Concerning privacy, you have a lot of control over who gets to see your location/content. Once of the reasons for building Brightkite is that we noticed a lot of people disclosing their location on Twitter, which has very limited privacy controls. We wanted to give users more fine-grained control.

Also, remember that checking in is a manual process (so you are not being tracked at all), and we designed it that way on purpose; you decide when, where and how often you check in, and how accurate you want to be.

- Concerning value: The main purpose of Brightkite isn’t really to tell people where you are at; it is to connect you with people around you. Some of the primary use cases are at conferences, concerts, etc. You can see the digital identities of the people who are around you, and then contact them via a double-blind messaging system.

- Concerning friend selectivity, we’re with you. The concept of friend doesn’t have much meaning anymore with most social networking sites. We’ve introduced another level of friendship which we call “trusted”. Analogous to the real world, these are your real friends, whereas regular friendships can be used for acquaintances.

- Concerning usability, we’re very well aware that we can make things easier, and we’re working on it (hence the private beta…don’t expect everything to be 100%)

All that being said, the service obviously isn’t for everybody, and that’s totally fine. If it doesn’t add any value to you, then by all means, don’t use it. A lot of people however do find it useful in some shape or form, which compels us to keep working on it.

Thanks,
Martin May
Founder, brightkite.com

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