Cuil - A First Look
Much controversy has surrounded the release of Cuil. Bloggers have lashed out at the problems they have come across. So, I decided to ask some friends what they think.
Seems to me that everyone’s missing the original value proposition of Cuil. Their original claim was that they were going to build a search index at 1/10th the cost of what Google has produced. Has anyone asked Tom or Anna at Cuil what their actual index/search costs are? I’m not surprised that Cuil’s search results are poor. It doesn’t appear that they have anything special in terms of a Page Ranking algorithm at this point, but that really doesn’t matter if they were able to achieve an index/search at 1/10th of Google’s cost. If Tom & Anna achieved anything close to this cost savings I’d think that they would be prime picking for Google, Yahoo, Microsoft. At this point, if Cuil can demonstrate an up-to-date index that scales to Google’s level at 1/10th the cost, then I’d think Google or others would start taking a look at them. Based on what (little) I know about Anna and Tom, it seems to me that their strengths are in the area of architecture and index. Anna is all about the index, she built Archive.org - Jim McCusker
Right, but why not wait and make the service a little better and then announce themselves rather than do so prematurely and get a rather negative publicity? - Hayk Hakobyan
They had to launch something, even if it returned poor results. My point is that their value proposition is in the reduction of the size requirements for the index. If Cuil has achieved anything close to 1/10th of Google’s TeraGoogle index then they have a very valuable asset. - Jim McCusker
It is a nifty layout, but there are a few things I do not like. I have a difficult time finding my own domain even when I search it by name, The results seem random and unrelated, and finally why show a image by the results if you are not pulling those images from the sites themselves? It’s cool, and Web 2.0 looking, but I can not find what I am looking for on it. Strangely it is sending me traffic… I wish I could figure out what those people are searching to find me because I can not! -Brad - Brad\
Jim, I understand the value proposition Cuil intended to bring forth. However, I still disagree as to why launch smth that gets so much negative feedback. No one expected Cuil to be equivalent or comparable to Google from the beginning - except perhaps media - but it could have been lacking certain feats but still returning truthful if somewhat lesser results. What it returns now has been called almost a random mixture of links, photos and other content. I like the design and idea, but that is all there is. - Hayk Hakobyan
I suspect that Cuil had a lot of pressure to launch. But also, my point is that I don’t think their goal was to be a better Google. Look back on the original articles in TechCrunch and elsewhere where the founders of Cuil were promoting their small index. My point is simple, if they did create a Google-compatible index/search at 1/10th the cost then they have something to sell to Google/Yahoo/MSN/etc… I’m waiting for someone in Silicon Valley to ask that question. - Jim McCusker
If it’s really about cost, lets just use the phone book. - Darian Rawson
What do you think? Is Cuil a success, or a big dream gone wrong? If you agree with many of these posters that it just isn’t “there” yet, what do you feel should be done to make it better?
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7 Comments
Matt McCarty
September 2nd, 2008
at 9:07am
I tried it out for a few minutes but never returned to use it as a search engine.
For whatever reason it doesn’t like Lockergnome very much. It only displayed the Nexus and no posts from our blogs. Most of the results are about you, ZDTV, Tech TV, and Leo(why does he pop up on every search?).
The problem with Cuil is that it offers nothing better than Google so there is no reason to move to it as a primary search engine.
Maybe they will get it right but until then Google is my search engine of choice.
-matt
The Outsider
September 2nd, 2008
at 7:53pm
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Zachh
September 3rd, 2008
at 1:20am
I tried Cuil, and it’s not so “cuil”. I don’t care how big their search index is. I tried 6 different searches of varying subject, and every time it gave me completely unrelated search results, and a couple of those times, I got search results for porn, which I was none too happy about. I will just stay with Google, thank you very much. Been using Google for years now, by far the best search engine, never done me wrong.
Snow Leopard or Leopard - Geeks!
September 3rd, 2008
at 5:42pm
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Natalie Kilpatrick
September 3rd, 2008
at 6:48pm
Tried searching in quotes, gave me the same results as if I weren’t even using quotes. You gotta be able to search for exact phrases.
tawni
September 3rd, 2008
at 10:08pm
Cuil is definitely not Cool. I could not get a single search correct when I tried using them for a week. As a rule of thumb all apps get a week try out before I adopt them. Google has no problem with all the manufacturer knowledge base items I search for so I’ll be staying with them.
Roelof
September 4th, 2008
at 4:35pm
Now Cuil’s biggest merit is that it built its index for about 1/10th of the cost Google or others would have to make? So what? That would be an achievement if the search results were any good - but they’re not. You get what you paid for, obviously.