Blu-ray Wins: HD DVD is Dead
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Up until recently, there was a huge high-definition format war in relation to DVDs. We had HD DVD vs. Blu-ray. Now… HD DVD has gone the way of the Dodo Bird. Nick is a community member who wrote in:
Yeah I know… the stupid debate about HD (physical formats)… but since it’s in the news, I’d like to get your comments about Blu-ray declared winner of this stupid battle against HD DVD (Samsung will focus on Blu-ray hardware, Panasonic will release Blu-ray reader/writer in Japan in February, Blockbuster and Wal-mart will go exclusive BD, etc). Who’s the real winner? How will Microsoft react?
I know online HD content is an option for those who want to avoid that conflict of physical formats (BD/HD DVD), but I still believe that the majority of average users will go for the physical format (discs). Companies like Seagate must be really happy to see the increase of downloadable HD content everywhere because users have to store content somewhere (HDD). But I still think that people will prefer having a physical disc instead of having something stored on their HDD (not to mention going online, downloading the contents, and waiting hours to get it). I think the real winner is probably the consumer with less confusion and more products (players / writers) available. But still, I guess we’ll have to wait 4-5 years before we see HD players/writers in most average users’ homes. Why? HD is really expensive and DVD is still doing pretty well (you can buy a DVD player for $99 and the quality of image and sound is still pretty good).
Well, it’s not a format war anymore. HD DVD is dead, and Blu-ray is the winner. I thought HD DVD was going to have it with the Xbox 360 external drive. I thought Sony was shooting itself in the foot by incorporating the Blu-ray player inside the PS3. I was wrong! Thank goodness I only have a couple of HD DVDs. Now we have to wait for Blu-rays to be everywhere on the market now.
The bottom line is that I was rooting for HD DVD. However, I’m glad the format war is over. Now there’s no confusion, and consumers won’t be hurt any further in trying to choose… and possibly choosing a loser. It’s now Blu-ray all the way… at least until the next format war arrives.
I do believe, however, that physical media isn’t going to be around for too much longer. I’ve already taken to storing my music in the Cloud… online. I’ve got a subscription to Rhapsody to download my music from online. I don’t have any mp3s stored on my hard drive. I have so many computers these days, I can’t keep up with all the content I have as it is. My music is there online if I need it. Why would I download all of that and put it onto a computer, only to move it to another when needed? It’s much easier for me to just have access to it online, no matter where I am or what machine I use.
Streaming media is coming. Downloadable media is coming. I guess I’m now going to be looking for an external USB or FireWire drive that is Blu-ray and DVD-X compatible. What’s the point in waiting? Format wars are over, in case you didn’t know. If you do happen to have HD DVD stuff, keep it. The drives will still work… there just won’t be anything new manufactured with that format.
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OpsanBlog
February 27th, 2008
at 10:39am
Blu-Ray Wins: HD-DVD is Dead”. Format war aside, the best point he makes: I do believe, however, that physical media isn’t going to be around for too much longer. Me too. As connections get faster and cloud services come into being, the relevance, hell, the
Billy Lubandki
February 26th, 2008
at 10:10am
I personally saw this coming from the start, the lager max capacity it just has more practicality for the future. But on the idea that physical media is going to die very soon, i’m not thinking that is that soon at least here in the US due to our quite low download rates. Something like that we will have to just wait and see in time.
Zach
February 26th, 2008
at 10:14am
The more I think about it the HD download option seems less and less plausible.
There are still millions? Of people on dial up and slow dsl.
These people do not have an HDCP compliant video card or monitor.
They have 200GB or smaller drives, but they have a local blockbuster and a capable entertainment system.
As it stands I see the download option as a far off glimmer. Not something that is currently tangible.
mtudor1985
February 26th, 2008
at 11:11am
Am I the only one here that doesn’t see any difference in quality from standard definition DVD, and Blu-Ray (or the now defunct HD-DVD). I mean, I’ve seen Blu-Ray in action, but its nothing really special. In my opinion, the only way Blu-Ray is better, is by having the ability to have more content on a single disk; I really don’t think there is a difference in quality at all- it seems to be just another scam to get people to waste their money.
TeddGCM
February 26th, 2008
at 1:22pm
There will always be “wars” like this as long as there are media formats. Tape vs. CD, BETA vs VHS, HD vs Blue-Ray. They all will fall to another, better media that has been developed. Technology will continue to evolve and previous media will become obsolete. Blue-Ray will yield to some other format in the future that offers better sound/video quality, and that format will, in turn, be drowned out by some more distant development. Even so, the older formats will continue. VHS never truly went away and are still in stores today, years after they said it would no longer be sold. Same holds true for cassette tapes. Previous media will continue to be sold and used by people years after the technology has moved on.
TeddGCM
February 26th, 2008
at 1:33pm
One more comment..
Chris mentions his belief that media will eventually become an all “Online” experience. I disagree. People will not trust a third party exclusively to hold their “belongings”. We are a physical people and want to (however sub-consciously) show off what we have. I don’t think people will want their collections to be exclusively virtual. Having the items in hand so we can look at them and touch them is something that most people prefer. Look at the whole “Paperless Society” that we were supposed to go to when computers became main stream. It’s just not something that people trust. They want their documents in a physical form, something they can hold in their hand, not a virtual file that lies on a small disk that can be easily stolen, broken or wiped. Until we, as a people, get more trust for our fellow man, the “virtual” storage will be something that only a select few will choose exclusively.
Jeremy
February 26th, 2008
at 8:22pm
Chris,
I am a fan and fellow nerd for a long time. After watching your comments on Blu-ray vs. HD-DVD, I think the demise of HD-DVD comes down to two things; marketing and studio support.
I think with HD-DVD it was just too much alphabet soup. Although we live in a world of ISPs, FBIs and LOLs, HD-DVD was a lot more difficult to say than “Blu-ray.” The marketing for Blu-ray was a lot more noticeable than HD-DVD. I don’t know that I ever saw an HD-DVD commercial, but I know I saw tons of Blu-ray commercials. And Blu-ray just sounds sexier and hipper.
But a larger reason for HD-DVD’s demise can be summed up with two words: Mickey Mouse. When Disney announced all of its movies would be going Blu-ray exclusively (for HD resolution), I told my wife then, the format wars were over, it was just a matter of time. That was 2004. When Disney went heavy on the Blu-ray advertising in 2007 and early 2008, it was all over but the shoutin’.
Of course, this is just my opinion. But as someone who has a keen interest in technological trends (especially as they relate to the population as a whole), the HD-DVD vs. Blu-ray battle was fun to watch from the sidelines. Of course, my sideline view changed back in November, when my wife and I purchased a 46″ Sharp Aquos with full 1080p plus a new Blu-ray player. Throw in HDMI cables found on Sellout.woot.com for 3 bucks each, and we now have an awesome cinematic experience in the Casa de Pate.
See you next time. And thanks for reading.
–JP8
killacow
February 26th, 2008
at 8:59pm
Hey since xbox used to use hd dvd format do you think that they will go blu ray or not?
KrnSidez
February 26th, 2008
at 9:36pm
I was waiting on the sideline for a winner. in the beginning i thought that HDDVD was going to win. but later i figured that Blu ray was going to win. cannot wait for a Blu-ray player attachment for xbox360
Al
February 27th, 2008
at 1:43am
I don’t know about physical media disappearing for good. Firstly we need to get rid of current hard drive technology with platters and read heads which are prone to crashing and noise. We need to go solid state all the way and the current prices need to drop a lot and the size of the drives need to grow. Some of us can’t always get our music on-line for many reasons. One: Streaming sometimes can ruin the experience due to lag even on broadband it is a problem. Two: For audiofiles we need quality streaming music like at least 256 kbps. Three: For hard to find music it’s not always there so buying CDs are still an option. Still it’s nice to think about.
For movies we need even bigger hard drives if physical media is to go away at some point and HD content can get huge. Even worse forget streaming and storing full quality films on-line. Server space is expensive. Servers can only hold so much and there are to many limits for space storage. To many servers fail and maintenance is a joke. Then at some point is there going to be internet overload when to much data is streamed and things bog down over time, do we have a solution for this possibility?
I don’t mean to sound grim but there are these possibilities.
kronic
February 29th, 2008
at 9:00pm
Although I was a fan of HD-DVD, I knew that Blu-Ray was going to win mainly because of the PS3. Blu-Ray had the upper hand with the fact that Blu-Ray compatibility was within the PS3 itself while the 360 required an external accessory in order to work.
Psydiddy
February 29th, 2008
at 10:36pm
Early on I had HD DVD picked too, possibly due to my dislike of the PS3. I even almost bought the 360 addon. I feel bad for those that did. The appeal for the PS3 is gonna go through the roof now. I still have trouble with the thought of “Blu-Ray” becoming a common household term such as vhs and dvd.
GiM
March 2nd, 2008
at 10:04am
HDD !!!
Think of what is happening in lasts years… how we evolve to a “computer media center”: NTSC/ATSC Clear QAM tuners, video cards with HDMI output, remotes…!
All is about convenience! And we can have better monitors than any HDTV display, or we can use large HDTVs as monitors…
I believe the winning format will be just HDD/computer storage… The industry will find a temporary storage media, like photo/video cameras which write on CDs/DVDs or digital cassettes – why not HD-DVD or BR-DVD, but then will be transferred to hdd. And more, the different codecs/quality settings, will offer to end user the choice of best quality or the best squeeze solution…
I do have HDTV records of TV shows/movies/documentaries on hdd, and can play them on HDTV if I like.
You can see that for “olds” TV / monitor formats are many solutions which avoid a DVD player, like this hdd player ( http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8822 ) for only $32.
The only hold back: PATA, F2.5″, FAT32. Some of it’s features:
- Multi-functional AV HDD player featured of volume delicate and easy to use
- Removable hard disk function: USB 2.0 interface Windows management directly
- Playback function: Play AV programs, such as: MPEG4, DVD, VCD, MP3, CD, etc. and JPG pictures
- Edit function: Copy/remove/rename/delete files/folders in HDD
- Support multi-disk partition HDD program playback
- Subtitle optional for DivX program, Multi language optional
- Search playback, repeat playback, A-B segment repeat playback, etc
- 9-picture playback function for the pictures, 12 kinds of transition effects for pictures playback
- CVBS and VGA video output, can be connected to TV or computer display
- Play formats: PAL/NTSC/AUTO for TVs; VGA for PCs
- Stereo audio output and digital coaxial output
- Multi-function control keys on unit and full function remote control, which is convenient for your use
- Portable design: size: 132×80x19mm; weight: 215g.
How long will take to add a HDMI output, 3.5″ and NTFS on these players? I hope less than a year…
GiM
sbushfan11
March 3rd, 2008
at 1:01am
I was in the HD-DVD camp and was sorry see it lose. At least now we know which way to go. Maybe soon we could see Blu-Ray players for under $100.
mrpeanutbutter13
April 11th, 2008
at 6:53pm
divex died cause it caused to my pollution
Ironmaiden1836
April 12th, 2008
at 1:19pm
I fucking hate this guy!turn off the computer and go get laid for the first time!
shirsardd
April 15th, 2008
at 3:34am
i own x360.. and im not interested on a fucking gay-DVD or shit-ray player.. i just want realistic games :)
peanutbuddaslap
April 15th, 2008
at 1:39pm
VHS still PWNS all!!!!
MetalStorm909
April 16th, 2008
at 6:41am
so ull need a blu ray then…..
freebird1986
April 17th, 2008
at 3:36am
IMPORTANT! If you do buy HDDVD or Blu ray, DONT FORGET to use the COMPONENT cables, NOT your basic AVs. I wasnt getting the full HD experience because i wasnt using them.
therealmetroidmaniac
April 20th, 2008
at 12:48am
i always supported blu ray!
RezRect
April 22nd, 2008
at 5:02am
Soon it’ll be: PS3 Wins: Xbox 360 is Dead.
jareski
April 23rd, 2008
at 12:34am
I still use Beta. Best video quality evarzz!
Visual1987
April 23rd, 2008
at 9:24am
I AGREE BUT I SAY 360 IS DEAD NOW!!!!!
wondiefive
April 24th, 2008
at 6:39am
Until I see Transformers on Blu-Ray, Blu-Ray can kiss my ass!
warzone481
April 24th, 2008
at 2:33pm
this guy is suck a 360 fan boy. he even has a 360 camera.
joehassmallarms
April 27th, 2008
at 4:29am
ha
fuck you
Shopler
April 27th, 2008
at 6:24pm
Still better use your HDMI
evilthinking509
April 28th, 2008
at 4:43pm
do u guys feel u got ripped off haha buying 200 dollars for your dvd player hahah lol… go 360 get ripped off of the ass
evilthinking509
April 28th, 2008
at 4:45pm
lol your the dumbass who wasted 200 dollars more on a xbox give to ms retard look who just gave away there money..
alreggie
April 29th, 2008
at 11:41am
My HdDVD player works just fine for me. I chose to buy one before the format war was over. I’ll still use it. You’re free to spend 300-400 bucks on a game system and another $35 a pop for movies. I like less expensive rather than more expensive. Boost the economy and spend,spend, spend.
ljbanner
April 30th, 2008
at 6:01am
unless you have 1 a hd tv 2 one larger than 37inch and 3 a neverending pocket of money its not gonna rock your boat.i found the hd picture great at first yet the mrs had no idea what i was talking about and many can not see that much of a difference.also how many folks have eye sight problems anyway? my god theres people who are happy buying from knock off nigel and weve all seen the quality of them dvds.
m02ez
May 1st, 2008
at 10:17am
what do u think about the internal new dvd drive burner on intels 2 dual core lapbtops there awsome whats lightscribe it comes with my labtop can u explain it to me because irely have no clue hot to use it thanks
hardcorefrokid
May 5th, 2008
at 12:47pm
Just wait. Then you’ll be kissing Blu-ray’s ass. It’s only a matter of time before the entire HD library will be on the Blu-ray format.
morgs2020
May 6th, 2008
at 12:55am
I thought Blu-ray would win because of the PS3 base. It’s a better format and a sexier name.
Discs will be out when download caps are larger. If you live in the US or UK that’s quite some time of. Howevere in Japan and Europe the FTTH network not only allows for full HD media to be downloaded but also to be played on demand.
morgs2020
May 6th, 2008
at 1:02am
Hasn’t chris heard of iTunes.He says he can’t organsise his music!. It’s easier to just keep DRM free versions of all your CD’s DVD’s on your hard drive/s. And when hard drive capacity is greater you can do the same with your Blu-ray’s.
ASKHIM3
May 11th, 2008
at 3:50am
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bign3ck
May 13th, 2008
at 12:24pm
No one really cares for either format the only reason blu ray had sales was from PS3 being a trojan horse for the format to get sales.
Nielsen700
May 13th, 2008
at 9:20pm
Fucking NERD!
dgdbg
May 16th, 2008
at 4:31am
i hate that guy
McProduction
May 20th, 2008
at 2:00am
I think Chris is the smartest on the internet. I have seen alot of videos whith him and he have alot of good things to say. and yes I see Blu-Ray as a good winner. anyway..good luck in the future Chris…I will step by the chat and say hello some day. see yah
Subtalvik2
May 22nd, 2008
at 4:00am
What if you want to take the downloaded movie to your friend’s house, or install a game to your hard drive for faster loading, we need discs. Downloads won’t make discs go away.
morgs2020
May 23rd, 2008
at 7:49am
Well I didn’t mean they will be out completely you can still burn stuff to disc but for the most part it will become increasingly easier just to watch films on demand either rented or owned online at a friends or watch the film stored on your home computer remotely at your friends.
morgs2020
May 23rd, 2008
at 7:50am
When you download a game you install it to the hard drive by default so it’s actually easier that way. Or maybe you thought I was referring to on demand HD media as encompassing games to, in that case no your right I didn’t mean playing games without first installing it, no that wouldn’t work for most cases. I was just referring to less interactive media like films. You could definitely download games faster than going to the shops though.
morgs2020
May 23rd, 2008
at 7:50am
So all in all they will become obsolete there won’t be demand for removable discs when you can transfer data online so fast any data maybe particularly sensitive data that you wish not to transfer online can always be stored on portable hard drives.
carbine23
May 23rd, 2008
at 10:55am
Are you stupid? Blu-ray since the start already won.
radicalvictor
May 24th, 2008
at 6:45am
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Bo3azozq8
May 24th, 2008
at 12:59pm
I think u’r right but u have to know that not all the users are in the US so u have to know that the internet speed in some countries is really really low .. i’m not saying we don’t have a high speed internet connection but dam it it’s tooo expensive .
Almuric7
May 25th, 2008
at 8:42am
HD-DVD had less storage space, it’s not rocket science…
nnarum23
May 25th, 2008
at 1:27pm
RICK ROLL’D
iRockurStyle
May 28th, 2008
at 10:59am
I disagree with carbine23 no your wrong dude
HD-DVD had a well enough future but
then companies started to support Blu-Ray more
and with Warner support leaving HD-DVD
it just killed it off I think HD-DVD’s
picture resolution was better than Blu-Ray’s
but you got to give it to the winner….
PearlJammer07
May 29th, 2008
at 3:55pm
I will be doing both downloading DVD’s, PS3 games and buying the phsyical products too. I like to have a physical copy cause if your computer or PS3 hard drive crash then you are skrewed.
ghostman559
May 30th, 2008
at 2:52am
SONY baby
KingCow144
May 30th, 2008
at 7:18am
i just wish i can afford one of em… lol
carrilawl
May 30th, 2008
at 7:50am
THERE YOU GO MOTHER FUCKERS OF HD-DVD!!!
THE FUTURE IS FUCKIN BLU, now just wait for the console war to end and for microsoft to step out
PhotoFinish2008
May 31st, 2008
at 4:13am
Once you go Blu, you never go back.
drpepper1106
June 2nd, 2008
at 3:31pm
I am glad blu-ray won 1st all movies will come out in one format (thank god) only one format player (thank god) blu-ray was helped by WB and walmart and sony, but what about the movies that came out on hd-dvd only will they be made again in blu-ray format??? (hope so) like transformers well that is my thought
drpepper1106
June 2nd, 2008
at 4:01pm
Sorry not WB time Warner
Pierre
September 25th, 2008
at 1:34pm
i so agree blu ray is hd dvd and better more crisper sound and video plus you can store more video on it
the ps3 comes standard with it
xbox 360: you have to pay $200 XTRA