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> <channel><title>Comments on: Begun The Clone War Has</title> <atom:link href="http://chris.pirillo.com/begun-the-clone-war-has/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://chris.pirillo.com/begun-the-clone-war-has/</link> <description>News and Reviews! Geek, Internet Entrepreneur, Hardware Addict, Software Junkie, Book Author, Once TV Show Host, Technology Enthusiast, Shameless Self-Promoter, Tech Conference Coordinator, Early Adopter, Idea Evangelist, Tech Support Blogger, Bootstrapper, Media Personality, Technology Consultant, Thicker Quicker Picker Upper.</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:37:17 -0800</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://chris.pirillo.com/begun-the-clone-war-has/comment-page-1/#comment-4692</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2002 17:16:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chris.pirillo.com/2002/11/13/begun-the-clone-war-has/#comment-4692</guid> <description>Number83, concerning your &quot;How come most linux users can&#039;t spell?&quot;, I used to say the same thing about Windows users.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Number83, concerning your &#8220;How come most linux users can&#39;t spell?&#8221;, I used to say the same thing about Windows users.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://chris.pirillo.com/begun-the-clone-war-has/comment-page-1/#comment-4691</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 20:19:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chris.pirillo.com/2002/11/13/begun-the-clone-war-has/#comment-4691</guid> <description>What the hell are you talking about have you seen the GUI on Redhat 8? I love it and want to father it&#039;s children</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the hell are you talking about have you seen the GUI on Redhat 8? I love it and want to father it&#39;s children</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://chris.pirillo.com/begun-the-clone-war-has/comment-page-1/#comment-4690</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 17:20:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chris.pirillo.com/2002/11/13/begun-the-clone-war-has/#comment-4690</guid> <description>How come most linux users can&#039;t spell?
Is there something wrong with the keyboard drivers?
Does this mean we can look forward to more typos in LockerGnome?
BTW, Chris... lighten up. You are a &quot;public&quot; figure. Your tirades on your blog against people... is that your real self? We hope that you are just having a bad day or something. Six of one.
Be Seeing You!
Number 83</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come most linux users can&#39;t spell?<br
/> Is there something wrong with the keyboard drivers?<br
/> Does this mean we can look forward to more typos in LockerGnome?<br
/> BTW, Chris&#8230; lighten up. You are a &#8220;public&#8221; figure. Your tirades on your blog against people&#8230; is that your real self? We hope that you are just having a bad day or something. Six of one.<br
/> Be Seeing You!<br
/> Number 83</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://chris.pirillo.com/begun-the-clone-war-has/comment-page-1/#comment-4689</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 16:46:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chris.pirillo.com/2002/11/13/begun-the-clone-war-has/#comment-4689</guid> <description>Geospart here: Chris there was a time when I respected your opinion, looked @ your software reviews and liked them... then somewhere along the line you went commercial.. dude lighten up.. and stop calling people jackass&#039;s when you have no real good come back for an opinion off your comments/blogs .. guess your not one for a good debate. The gui is good and you can change the fonts and everything else just play with the kde controls.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geospart here: Chris there was a time when I respected your opinion, looked @ your software reviews and liked them&#8230; then somewhere along the line you went commercial.. dude lighten up.. and stop calling people jackass&#39;s when you have no real good come back for an opinion off your comments/blogs .. guess your not one for a good debate. The gui is good and you can change the fonts and everything else just play with the kde controls.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://chris.pirillo.com/begun-the-clone-war-has/comment-page-1/#comment-4688</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 13:16:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chris.pirillo.com/2002/11/13/begun-the-clone-war-has/#comment-4688</guid> <description>geospart: Wow all that said and all you comment on is grammer.. hmmm
makes one think... or maybe not..oh well, oh and who cares
about grammer this is supposed to be a blog..oh well no more
fun here chris was crying, oh and thanks for making fun of my dislexia. Oh and I see you like to call
anyone who disagrees with you a jackass must be an Iowa thing... me, actingman..who next..maybe me
again... must be a limited vocabulary.. oh and I enclosed my e-mail in case you want to reply to me personally.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>geospart: Wow all that said and all you comment on is grammer.. hmmm<br
/> makes one think&#8230; or maybe not..oh well, oh and who cares<br
/> about grammer this is supposed to be a blog..oh well no more<br
/> fun here chris was crying, oh and thanks for making fun of my dislexia. Oh and I see you like to call<br
/> anyone who disagrees with you a jackass must be an Iowa thing&#8230; me, actingman..who next..maybe me<br
/> again&#8230; must be a limited vocabulary.. oh and I enclosed my e-mail in case you want to reply to me personally.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://chris.pirillo.com/begun-the-clone-war-has/comment-page-1/#comment-4687</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:36:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chris.pirillo.com/2002/11/13/begun-the-clone-war-has/#comment-4687</guid> <description>Actingman 2.  Chris Pirillo 0.
By the way, I thought Jackass was a great movie.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actingman 2.  Chris Pirillo 0.<br
/> By the way, I thought Jackass was a great movie.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://chris.pirillo.com/begun-the-clone-war-has/comment-page-1/#comment-4686</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 03:44:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chris.pirillo.com/2002/11/13/begun-the-clone-war-has/#comment-4686</guid> <description>Dear Chris,
I would like to apologize for all of the Linux users in the world who truly aren&#039;t jackasses. Thankfully, we&#039;re the majority. Unfortunately, due to the 10-1 rule (negative impressions stick about ten times as well as positive impressions under most circumstances), these tend to be perceived as the most vocal. That and most intelligent Linux users don&#039;t bother with obvious trolling, whether for good or ill- they&#039;re too busy.
As for your impressions of Linux... I&#039;m not exactly incredibly happy with Mandrake&#039;s UI- it isn&#039;t pretty enough out of the box, I agree. I think the taskbar at the bottom is too large, a problem I have yet to rectify. I also don&#039;t like a lot of the system UI defaults. Thankfully, there are a number of sites that offer excellent themes- some of the best have been listed above.
Linux does require more tweaking, and yes, it does have a philosophy different from Windows. It requires a different understanding of your computer.
I will say that Linux has a lot more to offer- security, stability, quick bug fixes, lower prices, freedom from corporate control of your computer, endless flexibility *if you choose to exercise it*, a knowledgable community, amongst others- than just the CLI. Heck, I try not to use the CLI at all- it&#039;s just not my UI paradigm. Sure, in some areas it&#039;s less refined... but on a desktop computer I&#039;ve kept Linux running for four months without a reboot or crash, and that&#039;s with extremely heavy use including gaming, numerous upgrades, web surfing... stuff I would otherwise do on Windows. And quite honestly, most of the time I have no idea what I&#039;m doing... for me, it just works.
You&#039;ve gotten used to a particular way of doing things, and that&#039;s fine- it works for you. You&#039;re comfortable with Microsoft&#039;s growing control over what you can do- and that&#039;s fine; Microsoft&#039;s business model and software agrees with some people better than others. I&#039;m generally happy with Linux, and for me it stands on its own merits, although I agree it needs work. If you&#039;re not comfortable with elements of the UI, the developers are always willing to listen to reasoned, well-thought-out suggestions. I&#039;d like to suggest that you try a different distribution, probably Lycoris or Suse, even though I use Mandrake at home. Linux comes in different flavors, like ice cream, and you&#039;ve just managed to get the wrong scoop. Try another one.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Chris,<br
/> I would like to apologize for all of the Linux users in the world who truly aren&#39;t jackasses. Thankfully, we&#39;re the majority. Unfortunately, due to the 10-1 rule (negative impressions stick about ten times as well as positive impressions under most circumstances), these tend to be perceived as the most vocal. That and most intelligent Linux users don&#39;t bother with obvious trolling, whether for good or ill- they&#39;re too busy.<br
/> As for your impressions of Linux&#8230; I&#39;m not exactly incredibly happy with Mandrake&#39;s UI- it isn&#39;t pretty enough out of the box, I agree. I think the taskbar at the bottom is too large, a problem I have yet to rectify. I also don&#39;t like a lot of the system UI defaults. Thankfully, there are a number of sites that offer excellent themes- some of the best have been listed above.<br
/> Linux does require more tweaking, and yes, it does have a philosophy different from Windows. It requires a different understanding of your computer.<br
/> I will say that Linux has a lot more to offer- security, stability, quick bug fixes, lower prices, freedom from corporate control of your computer, endless flexibility *if you choose to exercise it*, a knowledgable community, amongst others- than just the CLI. Heck, I try not to use the CLI at all- it&#39;s just not my UI paradigm. Sure, in some areas it&#39;s less refined&#8230; but on a desktop computer I&#39;ve kept Linux running for four months without a reboot or crash, and that&#39;s with extremely heavy use including gaming, numerous upgrades, web surfing&#8230; stuff I would otherwise do on Windows. And quite honestly, most of the time I have no idea what I&#39;m doing&#8230; for me, it just works.<br
/> You&#39;ve gotten used to a particular way of doing things, and that&#39;s fine- it works for you. You&#39;re comfortable with Microsoft&#39;s growing control over what you can do- and that&#39;s fine; Microsoft&#39;s business model and software agrees with some people better than others. I&#39;m generally happy with Linux, and for me it stands on its own merits, although I agree it needs work. If you&#39;re not comfortable with elements of the UI, the developers are always willing to listen to reasoned, well-thought-out suggestions. I&#39;d like to suggest that you try a different distribution, probably Lycoris or Suse, even though I use Mandrake at home. Linux comes in different flavors, like ice cream, and you&#39;ve just managed to get the wrong scoop. Try another one.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://chris.pirillo.com/begun-the-clone-war-has/comment-page-1/#comment-4685</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 03:11:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chris.pirillo.com/2002/11/13/begun-the-clone-war-has/#comment-4685</guid> <description>&quot;Even&quot; my eye.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Even&#8221; my eye.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://chris.pirillo.com/begun-the-clone-war-has/comment-page-1/#comment-4684</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 03:08:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chris.pirillo.com/2002/11/13/begun-the-clone-war-has/#comment-4684</guid> <description>Then I guess we are even.  I don&#039;t take too seriously someone who &quot;shoots from the hip&quot;...rather then from the intellect.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then I guess we are even.  I don&#39;t take too seriously someone who &#8220;shoots from the hip&#8221;&#8230;rather then from the intellect.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://chris.pirillo.com/begun-the-clone-war-has/comment-page-1/#comment-4683</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 01:59:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chris.pirillo.com/2002/11/13/begun-the-clone-war-has/#comment-4683</guid> <description>Those are awfully big words coming from a man who doesn&#039;t post his true e-mail address anywhere, munged or not. Sorry, but if people don&#039;t give me a way to e-mail them, I don&#039;t take them too seriously.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are awfully big words coming from a man who doesn&#39;t post his true e-mail address anywhere, munged or not. Sorry, but if people don&#39;t give me a way to e-mail them, I don&#39;t take them too seriously.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://chris.pirillo.com/begun-the-clone-war-has/comment-page-1/#comment-4682</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 01:47:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chris.pirillo.com/2002/11/13/begun-the-clone-war-has/#comment-4682</guid> <description>Sorry Chris, but if you are going to write your thoughts everyday in a newsletter...if you are going to make disrespectful comments about your wife&#039;s anatomy on your blog...if you are going to adlib on television, then I can judge you...what you put out there is what we judge you by.  If you can&#039;t take it...then I suggest you remove yourself from public consumption...or grow a thicker hide.  If it is so easy for us to push your buttons...and get such an angry intense answer...either we are hitting way too close to home, or you are not really happy.
And again, you fail to answer the intellectual points of the posts...you just resort to anger, and in my case...profanity.
And I find it very interesting that you accuse me of judging you.  You know nothing at all about me...and yet you have judged that I am judging you.  And neither of us knows anything about Spart...for all we know he is a level two at IBM somewhere and works with MVS all day long.
Sorry Chris...but you cannot put out there the body of work that you have and then whine that we misunderstand you.  If we misunderstand you...then you didn&#039;t do a very good job of putting it out there.
Of course, if you had a thicker skin, or actually enjoyed doing this stuff...then maybe you would have gotten into a discussion with this Spart person rather then just dismissing him with the Noel Coward-like reply of &quot;jackass&quot;...and I never would have even gotten involved in this discussion. (That last part about you not enjoying this activity is a cheap judgement on my part...thought I would indulge a little bit...the difference being I know when I am doing it.)
By the way...it&#039;s real easy to renew IPs...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Chris, but if you are going to write your thoughts everyday in a newsletter&#8230;if you are going to make disrespectful comments about your wife&#39;s anatomy on your blog&#8230;if you are going to adlib on television, then I can judge you&#8230;what you put out there is what we judge you by.  If you can&#39;t take it&#8230;then I suggest you remove yourself from public consumption&#8230;or grow a thicker hide.  If it is so easy for us to push your buttons&#8230;and get such an angry intense answer&#8230;either we are hitting way too close to home, or you are not really happy.<br
/> And again, you fail to answer the intellectual points of the posts&#8230;you just resort to anger, and in my case&#8230;profanity.<br
/> And I find it very interesting that you accuse me of judging you.  You know nothing at all about me&#8230;and yet you have judged that I am judging you.  And neither of us knows anything about Spart&#8230;for all we know he is a level two at IBM somewhere and works with MVS all day long.<br
/> Sorry Chris&#8230;but you cannot put out there the body of work that you have and then whine that we misunderstand you.  If we misunderstand you&#8230;then you didn&#39;t do a very good job of putting it out there.<br
/> Of course, if you had a thicker skin, or actually enjoyed doing this stuff&#8230;then maybe you would have gotten into a discussion with this Spart person rather then just dismissing him with the Noel Coward-like reply of &#8220;jackass&#8221;&#8230;and I never would have even gotten involved in this discussion. (That last part about you not enjoying this activity is a cheap judgement on my part&#8230;thought I would indulge a little bit&#8230;the difference being I know when I am doing it.)<br
/> By the way&#8230;it&#39;s real easy to renew IPs&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://chris.pirillo.com/begun-the-clone-war-has/comment-page-1/#comment-4681</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 01:12:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chris.pirillo.com/2002/11/13/begun-the-clone-war-has/#comment-4681</guid> <description>I&#039;m almost starting to think that Linux has become somekind of religion with alot of people. If you say anything against it, they go to war against you. All I want out of my computer is that it perform the tasks I need it to do in the most efficient, reliable and user-friendly way possible. Isn&#039;t that what it&#039;s supposed to be about, making your life easier?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m almost starting to think that Linux has become somekind of religion with alot of people. If you say anything against it, they go to war against you. All I want out of my computer is that it perform the tasks I need it to do in the most efficient, reliable and user-friendly way possible. Isn&#39;t that what it&#39;s supposed to be about, making your life easier?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://chris.pirillo.com/begun-the-clone-war-has/comment-page-1/#comment-4680</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 01:01:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chris.pirillo.com/2002/11/13/begun-the-clone-war-has/#comment-4680</guid> <description>Go get&#039;em Chris! Actingman is a jackass. And that comes from someone who first started using computers when you had to punch holes in cards.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go get&#39;em Chris! Actingman is a jackass. And that comes from someone who first started using computers when you had to punch holes in cards.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://chris.pirillo.com/begun-the-clone-war-has/comment-page-1/#comment-4679</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:48:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chris.pirillo.com/2002/11/13/begun-the-clone-war-has/#comment-4679</guid> <description>Hey actingman: you&#039;re a jackass, too. To sit there and judge me without knowing me - or my motivations - is rude, crude, and vile. I shoot from the hip with my opinions, and like it or not, Mandrake 9.0 (out of the box) looks horrible. &quot;Look at me... I know how to use MVS in a sentence!&quot; I&#039;m not clearly doing anything, jackass. I can admit that I don&#039;t know everything. It sounds to me like you&#039;re another one of those holier-than-thou geeks who I (and others) can&#039;t stand to be around. Having watched Call for Help once or twice, you wouldn&#039;t know shit about me.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey actingman: you&#39;re a jackass, too. To sit there and judge me without knowing me &#8211; or my motivations &#8211; is rude, crude, and vile. I shoot from the hip with my opinions, and like it or not, Mandrake 9.0 (out of the box) looks horrible. &#8220;Look at me&#8230; I know how to use MVS in a sentence!&#8221; I&#39;m not clearly doing anything, jackass. I can admit that I don&#39;t know everything. It sounds to me like you&#39;re another one of those holier-than-thou geeks who I (and others) can&#39;t stand to be around. Having watched Call for Help once or twice, you wouldn&#39;t know shit about me.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://chris.pirillo.com/begun-the-clone-war-has/comment-page-1/#comment-4678</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:43:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://chris.pirillo.com/2002/11/13/begun-the-clone-war-has/#comment-4678</guid> <description>I installed Mandrake Linux on my old Pentium Pro 200MHz which was running slow as molasses on Win98. Now it runs like a Ferrari again. I do think it looks a little rough and, unfortunately, for the work I need to do on my computer (I use a laptop primarily at work running Win98 and a Pentium 4 at home with XP) I really don&#039;t have the time to learn all of its intricacies. Also, every time I boot the machine I have to reset the system clock and reconfigure the soundcard because it won&#039;t recognize it when I boot up. After attending a Mac Jaguar seminar last week, I was blown away! Since they&#039;re both based on Unix, I think Mac is the way to go for someone who doesn&#039;t have the time to become a computer programmer. I&#039;m going to keep my Linux box around to fool with though. Maybe I&#039;ll learn something.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I installed Mandrake Linux on my old Pentium Pro 200MHz which was running slow as molasses on Win98. Now it runs like a Ferrari again. I do think it looks a little rough and, unfortunately, for the work I need to do on my computer (I use a laptop primarily at work running Win98 and a Pentium 4 at home with XP) I really don&#39;t have the time to learn all of its intricacies. Also, every time I boot the machine I have to reset the system clock and reconfigure the soundcard because it won&#39;t recognize it when I boot up. After attending a Mac Jaguar seminar last week, I was blown away! Since they&#39;re both based on Unix, I think Mac is the way to go for someone who doesn&#39;t have the time to become a computer programmer. I&#39;m going to keep my Linux box around to fool with though. Maybe I&#39;ll learn something.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss><!--
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