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When Apple first announced their Apple TV product, I was interested but not excited. Years later, that interest has completely warn off – largely because of the lack of updates and killer features. Admittedly, I do already have a TiVo (and a few Comcast DVRs to boot).

Still, why has Apple seemingly abandoned the Apple TV? There’s a new report suggesting that Apple is working on a connected television. I’m not so sure that’s even interesting to me. Who knows? Maybe they’ll knock that one out of the park.

Do you have an Apple TV, or do you feel like you’re missing out because you don’t have one? I asked my Twitter followers, and some of them responded:

Vividlydrawn: what's an AppleTV?
about 47 minutes ago
jmccullough108: I agree. I am perfectly fine without one.
about 46 minutes ago
Condawg: I feel the same way. Hooking up my iMac to my TV gives me basically the same thing… It just seems worthless, IMO.
about 46 minutes ago
Schlomo: AppleTV is not nearly as interesting as my xbox!
about 46 minutes ago
robertrosenfeld: I agree. I like Apple, but I don't need them handing my entire media experience.
about 46 minutes ago
ericpratum: Agreed. Honestly, I don't sit in front of the TV enough to make it worth it. If I did, I don't know that I'd choose AppleTV
about 46 minutes ago
MikeMathia: I don't own one, and I don't wish that I had one. It's a good idea, just not for me.
about 46 minutes ago
dVoka: AppleTV rocks! You can connect a Terrabyte drive to it where your backed up DVDs reside, run Boxee (hulu), and much more.
about 45 minutes ago
unclespeedo: i don't believe you're in the target audience for apple tv….. you shouldn't feel like you're missing anything, you're not
about 45 minutes ago
gregskidmore: Yes I do too. I keep wanting to get an AppleTV. I don't know why I haven't bought one yet. Maybe it's lacking something?
about 45 minutes ago
roehmholdt: iTMS + 30in Cinema Display > AppleTV… now to go get that Cinema display…
about 44 minutes ago
Outsanity: It's just more Apple crap that's more likely not worth the money unless you're that into Apple swag
about 44 minutes ago
xKevinx: I'm with you on that
about 44 minutes ago
maddogdom: you said that about the iPhone and you loved that!
about 44 minutes ago
andrewmundy: you're totally not the only one. I promise
about 44 minutes ago
AppleNerd: I don't see anything in the AppleTV. Seems boring…
about 44 minutes ago
JessePB: Considering you can accomplish the same thing by buying directly in iTunes and streaming with any number of other devices, no.
about 44 minutes ago
yenra: AppleTV is excellent at displaying photos on a big HDTV – smooth & great quality; also Flickr, Podcasts, YouTube.
about 44 minutes ago
shedtroll: I don't feel I'm missing out. Boxee is a better alternative.
about 44 minutes ago
cpedraza: I'm an Apple fan but in the world of DVRs AppleTV doesn't make sense for me.
about 43 minutes ago
findingnewo: Yeah, I don't get the appeal. I think WinMCE extenders are much more worth it.
about 43 minutes ago
jbone66: My ATV was humdrum until XBMC/Boxee was available for it. It's our main method to accessing video content now…
about 43 minutes ago
VxJasonxV: It's very interesting. It's just that the most of us have computers to do everything the AppleTV does, and more.
about 43 minutes ago
biss13: if you don't own an AppleTV how do you know what is it you are missing? ;)
about 43 minutes ago
robpickering: And that statement shows everyone you don't have one. Hulu on my TV – 'nuff said
about 42 minutes ago
EricCAnderson: Agree: it's basically just another iPod for your TV (even with boxiee on it)…
about 42 minutes ago
Knunez: yeah I dont need one.. no point in having one anyways
about 42 minutes ago
wolrah: i agree they're not that interesting out of the box, but patchstick them and they're great. XBMC and Boxee ftw
about 42 minutes ago
Christyxcore: i agree. I thought it was cool when I saw it at my friends house but now that I think about it, it's also overpriced 4 watitis
about 42 minutes ago
tjohansen: AppleTV alone isn't great, but AppleTV + @boxee is great!
about 42 minutes ago
johnbarta: just buy it chris! Even if you dont use it it could be a fancy drink holder
about 42 minutes ago
iGeekW: AppleTV is not worth the money :P
about 42 minutes ago
jefflundberg: A DELL Studio PC w/ Blu-ray and Windows Media Center Edition is much more interesting.
about 41 minutes ago
benhigham: I guess that depends on your current setup. I think it appeals to a different audience.
about 41 minutes ago
easy_way: there a waste of money i got one and its kinda useless
about 41 minutes ago
LisaBarger: Yes, Chris. Yes you are.
about 41 minutes ago
yesitsmedoug: I once walked into Apple and asked them Why I would want one. They didn't sell me on the idea so I also don't have or want one
about 40 minutes ago
chrisutley: #AppleTV with @boxee is great. I rent a lot of movies from #Apple, and watch TV shows over Hulu.
about 40 minutes ago
themacinjosh: no you're not, I don't feel like I'm missing much. All of the media is available whether you own an apple tv or not.
about 40 minutes ago
TarasI: I don't think so. One of my friends has one and it's really not that useful, especially if you have Media Center Extensions.
about 39 minutes ago
idarknight: you might be – between the hacks and the core functions, it is a device whose tipping point may have come
about 37 minutes ago
anansie: Its cheaper than a mac mini and has boxee going for it , Also it's the only game in town for renting movies in hd on iTunes
about 35 minutes ago
amarvin: i didn't feel that i was missing out on Apple TV until Boxee popped up. now i want to roll my own Atom-based version w/ boxee.
about 35 minutes ago
kevinbriody: I bought an early model AppleTV. I'd call it “neat” but definitely not compelling. Cool to show family vids, some DL'd TV.
about 35 minutes ago
jay1one: we might be the only two, but you are definitely not the only one.
about 34 minutes ago
ahaslach: Functionality of AppleTV can be replicated/exceeded w/ a laptop and video cable. Not a compelling product.
about 34 minutes ago
j_holtslander: Nope.
about 34 minutes ago
ipodtouch15: I agree!:)
about 33 minutes ago
wmchamberlain: Why would I buy a AppleTV when I can do more with a mac mini? Even the Cult of Mac would have a hard time explaining.
about 32 minutes ago
calebh: nope I feel the same way
about 32 minutes ago
schmenzer: Chris, I was a lot more interested before I started using Boxee.
about 31 minutes ago
seanwolter: The true media hoarder has a mac mini and a drobo hooked up to his big screen
about 30 minutes ago
mikekochansky: I agree. As much as I love Apple, I have little to no desire/need for AppleTV
about 29 minutes ago
ricorick: Boxee has made mine more interesting and better.
about 28 minutes ago
Zanoryt: Running Boxee on Apple TV is a compelling replacement for a cable connection. It's not 100% ideal, but Boxee is really awesome
about 27 minutes ago
adamkmiec: I love mine – it's a fixture of our house
about 25 minutes ago
MicrosoftWin7: RT: ByronSmartMicrosoftWin7 Yeah my hacked Xbox1 W Media Center(720p) is far more intresting then Apple TV, + the 360
about 24 minutes ago
blogbloke: I'm with you Chris
about 24 minutes ago
JessLoebig: Well maybe it is because you have a TiVo ;)
about 23 minutes ago
cogwisewill: Well, if you get the atv flash and are able to put hulu on the appletv along with a other things… http://bit.ly/LDL8
about 23 minutes ago
RobinBoyWonders: I like it a lot
about 22 minutes ago
color_me_pink: You're not the only one. Until there is DVRcapability, I won't even consider it.
about 21 minutes ago
gurubrandon: Yes.. but Boxee makes that genre of devices very interesting. ( http://boxee.tv )
about 21 minutes ago
PassTheBoll: seeing as you can accomplish the same thing using less money, I won't get one. Just take a computer and connect it to the tv.
about 21 minutes ago
webdrifter: This frugal tech guy is all ATO man! No AppleTV, no DirecTV and no cable TV. Just a cheap Techno who has seen and likes HULU
about 20 minutes ago
gailelaine: I don't own an Apple TV because I just don't see the need. I own a Mac and I've looked at the Apple TV.
about 19 minutes ago
LoganPayne: I don't feel that like I'm missing out. But I do want one….to stop buying DVDs and discs…
about 16 minutes ago
Sebbbb: how isn't it intresting? it comes in a shiny apple box :P
about 15 minutes ago
sideswipe70: I feel the same way. It just seems like a glorified media server.
about 9 minutes ago
swichi293: I own everything apple, but I refuse to own the apple tv. It really is quite pointless
about 8 minutes ago
aaron_bennett: It's just not exciting enough for the price OR the inevitable inoperability with my other devices.. You are not alone.
about 7 minutes ago

What are your thoughts on Apple TV and the general state of DVRs?

16 Comments

I love my Apple TV. I use it to watch all my Youtube and Podcast subscriptions, rent HD movies, connect my itunes media for excellent audio quality on my new HD receiver. It’s not an HTPC, but then again it’s cheaper and easier to use. It could be a much better appliance if you could download apps to play u-stream, hulu, etc. The iPhone wasn’t a remarkable phone until the App Store afterall!

AppleTv + Boxee + Netflix is a game changer. Here is the Netflix hack.

You do not need to open the appletv and you may reset it at any time using factory restore.

The patchstick will plug into the appletv USB and install programs like Launcher (XMBC and Boxee) NitoTV and Couch surfer – this allows you to use SSH, SMB, Play DVD’s, and mount drives from remote computers.

Items you need:

a mac to use the console

1 flash drive – to make patchstick
2. usb hub
3. keyboard and mouse

1. Make an atvusb-creator patchstick, then install it
http://code.google.com/p/atvusb-creator/

2. Install Firefox and the Silverlight 2.0 plugin from Awkward TV, using the SSH capabilities unlocked by the atvusb-creator patchstick.

http://wiki.awkwardtv.org/wiki/Firefox

(skip the instructions down to install firefox as the patchstick will set up the keyboard and mouse pointer for you)

A. You do not have to install core-audio for this to work.

B. The keyboard and mouse only work in boxee and firefox so you will need your remote

3. Stream Netflix Watch Now through Firefox on Apple TV, using a keyboard and mouse

(since flash is not installed “you can install flash” the join Netflix item will not appear put you can sign in as a member and all is good).

The Firefox app will appear in NitoTV under applications. I installed the game emulators so my picture will show these.

Yawn!

Bro,

Apple TV is so sick.

Just get one Captain Cheapo. Heck, you already got some movie screen sized monitors. You can obviously afford it. Just fork out a couple bucks and see for yourself.

It’s sick!

Heck, I’d buy it just to let my pictures in iPhoto float across my big screen. It’s wicked cool!

Tivo and DVR destroy the quality as well.

All this “Chris! Chris! Chris! Windows!” puppy dog theology is making it really difficult for me to keep my dinner down. Anybody — even a Windows fanboy — who would argue the superiority of Windows as a PVR platform needs a C/T scan — and that’s just the beginning. I hope you have good insurance.

I agree that Apple TV is not what it could be. I do not own one. I do not intend to own one.

But to suggest that Windows MCE could whoop an Apple TV’s butt is just…. laughable.

There are times I smile and nod at the Windows crowd and let them have “a moment”. This isn’t one of them.

I also agree with the posters who said that Chris is not the target audience for the Apple TV. The Apple TV (like the Mini) is a conversion item. It’s meant to turn people. Chris has already turned.

And…

Once you go Mac…. you never go back. :-)

Sorry PC people. We’re not giving him back. :-)

I was thinking of getting one actually..

Apple TV gives me all my 500 DVDs on demand, all my music, photos, every video I’ve ever made, everything on Boxee, and everything I record on EyeTV. I can’t imagine anything easier or more comprehensive. Plus I can pipe my music to every Apple TV and Airport Express. Works like a charm.

I tried to get excited by Apple TV at first. But it seemed so darned limited.

I don’t really care for what little features it offered. I don’t see that they really added that many since I first heard about it.

I like the idea of something small that could handle my multimedia and connect to my LCD HD TV.

But a Mac Mini would offer more, and cost more.

In the end, I got a Multimedia Quad Core PC for the price Apple charges for the Mac Mini.

It’s too bad the case is really too big to sit on the same level as the TV.

Maybe I’ll stick it on the lower level of the multimedia center.

I just need to watch out for heat.

I have AppleTV and I think it is a really good appliance. Add Boxee to it and it becomes a great appliance. My wife uses it for dinner parties and sets up music playlists on iTunes to play through our surround sound. People love it. Plus, I love watching movie trailers on it!!

I like the way you included your responding followers to the article. If any of your blog readers were not on Twitter before, I see a surge coming. While this is an article about the AppleTV (which I love), it is even more an article about Twitter (which I love even more).

I own one and use it daily to serve up podcasts and tv shows. Also serves my music playlists. I can also sync it with my mac in my office and pipe music sound my entire house.

Very intuative UI which is nice and easy to explain to non-techie guests..

I <3 my AppleTV. Works great, syncs with iTunes, let’s me play my music from my computer (remote speakers), Boxee runs on it… Love it.

apple TV is crap! I just want a DVR so I can record my shows instead of paying $2 for each episode.

I have Comcast HD but no DVR. I tried Boxee as an alternative. I’d rather use an Internet alternative like Boxee.

I think AppleTV has promise but the key features (TV tuner, DVR, Optical Drive) would need to be added to make it a “must have” product. Until that happens I’ll keep using my MacMini.

Chris, I just use my 360 with netflix.

I was going to get an AppleTV to replace my Windows Media Center box. Ended up getting a Mac Mini. Mac Mini sold me on Macs. Now I have a MacBook Pro as a primary machine and the Mini has been repurposed as my Home Entertainment Server. (Connected to a 4TB drobo, and my LCD TV) Try getting 4TB on an AppleTV! Plus I can surf the net from my Sofa. Apple TV<Mac Mini.

What Do You Think?