But let’s then put this in perspective with Microsoft as a yardstick.

1. Apple had the Opener hole for years. We were in direct contact with the author who started years earlier by trying to get Apple to fix it. Guesses vary but this was open for at least six years and it’s not a hole – it’s a CRATER said the author. And we agree: it’s the biggest and dumbest security hole in the history of the ’secure’ PC. But it’s fixed now.

2. Apple had the Oompa Loompa hole open for years. We and Kevin Finisterre kept up a campaign for years to get it plugged. Especially Kevin really worked hard on it.

Of course there are tonnes of small cosmetic glitches that are unforgivable. And Leopard sure as shite ain’t ready for prime time. But now let’s look at Windows.

1. Endemically insecure model. Needs to be gutted completely. Microsoft Linux wouldn’t be bad at all.

2. Bill Gates has been apologising for his crappy system since at least 2002 and all he’s done throughout his career is promise fixes.

Compare two holes in OS X that never got hammered that hard with a hopeless architecture on Windows that’s been part of Microsoft hype for six years. You can’t compare. You simply can’t.

Microsoft’s updates? To what? Update what? Update something that’s NEVER going to work properly anyway?

What difference does it matter?

Are Apple the gentlemen of the computer business? No. To a great extent they’re clowns. And frankly Microsoft treat their indies a LOT better. But bang for buck is higher with Apple’s OS X no matter the frequency of updates because – put bluntly – Apple haven’t succeeded in reducing Unix to Windows. Although admittedly they’re trying real hard with the iPhone.

Thank you.

Ok, you do realize that Urge is a 3rd party ’store’, that is installed WMP11, and just like all other stores, it can be shown, shown as the default, etc.

Just click on the downarrow and select Browser Other Online Stores, and if you don’t see something you want to replace Urge with, turn it off so it doesn’t show up as the default store.

Why should MS issue a patch because you don’t realize that Urge and WMP11 are NOT THE SAME THING?

I find this lack of understand and insight more than a bit scary, and no wonder the WMP team told you to run along, I would of had a hard time not laughing at you.

Apple has also released incremental patches with frequency – rather than scheduling massive update roll-ups (”Service Packs”) to their customer base. Windows users are typically made to hunt down patches from an unweildy Knowkeldge Base (and in some cases, request the patch from Microsoft before they can download it).

This isn’t nowhere near true. Microsoft releases updates and patches rather frequently. Apple has a notorious reputation of not updating its software for known flaws for months or beyond. Rixstep, no fan of Microsoft at all, has terrible things to say about Apple’s security response (and Rixstep will argue that even with that backdrop, people would be safer on OS X than Windows).

And the complaint about an icon that no longer exists, and using that as reason to declare that Microsoft and Windows is beyond salvation is close to pathetic.

I really believe you are biased about Vista. Sounds like Im picking a fight, but I have had it on 2 laptops now without a single problem. Its stable, easy to use, cheap hardware, convenient considering the world uses Windows by a massive majority.

Leopard is good, freezing on some people going in and the same newbie bumps any system has. I use Windows movie maker quite often and never have a problem. All in all, a bias shows

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,139186-c,trojanhorses/article.html

Whatever!

I sent you this on irc, but idk if you got it.

Anyways,

Here is a screen shot for you, of the same problems you exhibited, this would be for windows xp http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8296/xpxm1.jpg

That is exactly right. OS X is not perfect and indeed has its own set of problems, but the overall experience is considerably good: consistent, well-thought out GUI, rock solid unix, great applications included with the OS, and a great mix of commercial and shareware software, to name a few.

I switched from XP about three years ago and still use XP with my Macbook Pro. No need for dealing with Vista hell.

I’m very happy with my install of Vista, its going fine and hasn’t blue screened once

Service Pack 1 last time I heard anything about it is supposed to be released this month or next. It kind of seems like they are gearing up for it to. A few days ago Windows Vista BSOD’d when trying to go to sleep. I was angry but felt better when Windows started back up it checked the internet and said Sidebar.exe prevented the computer from properly entering sleep. blah blah blah This problem was reported to Microsoft and has already been resolved and will be fixed in a future release.
…it said something to that effect. I thought that was cool and am looking forward to SP1. Hopefully it fixes some of lingering bugs in the software.

TheDub