Alternative Fuel and Hybrid Modifications: Water4Gas?

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I have been hearing about cars that run on water since I was a kid, long before it showed up as a joke on “That ’70s Show”.

It would be nice if something like this would work, but I have a hard time beliving it is. Fuel alachol is used in South America and is proving quite economical, but Brazil has a much larger sugar cane production then we do, which will make it much less likley for it to work for us. Our corn production will not do the trick.

I am wondering if Methane could be made to work?

Ok, let’s keep in mind that if this is even possible, it is by no means practical, not to mention the fact that most of America is border line incapable of abstract thought. I’m not saying that this method is entirely unfounded, I’m just saying that most don’t have the patience, let alone mental capacity, to handle this sort of production.

this would definatelly be something people should be looking into more. I though honestly think that the better way to go is running cars on electricity. Water is also a good idea, but i don’t think that is considered a renewable source of power. That buy it self makes the switch to electricity to seem more worthwhile in my opinion. However water is a much better substitute then what were using now.

I don’t think the average American has the capability to execute this method, let alone the patience. That’s excluding the plausibility of this method. I could be wrong though, with gas prices on the rise desperation may overrided incompetence.

honestly i dont think that the whole hydrogen thing will take place as long as the big oil companys are making the big money its goin to take alot of us to switch to water for gas because that would take most of our humanity to say im not buying gas ne more so that the oil companys arent making money bc right now they dont have ne reason to stop selling oil and making gas. our problem is bush since he owns alot of the oil plus so does his family so the past 8 yrs with us coming up with the technology to do so (place gas with water and other things) he has been against it and not letting it happen to gain more money out of ppl but hes time is coming to a close very soon.

It’s long been known that adding exotic (non-petroleum based) components into the cylinders of an engine will improve performance (NO2). Hydrogen just happens to be one of the most readily accessible materials on the planet and it burns cleanly, I’m not surprised that someone is trying to capitalize it. The dangerous part will be trying to regulate the flow so that it doesn’t cause irreparable damage to the engine or fuel/vacuum lines.

Back in High School, I dated a girl who did a project on incorporating a hydrogen fuel cell into standard internal combustion engines to improve performance, frankly I’m surprised she didn’t sell the idea and get rich by now (10 years later). On the other hand she could be behind the water4gas thing. Also back in HS, I had a friend whose brother would produce his own hydrogen from 5-gallon water jugs and fill garbage bags, he’d tie a string to them and light the string and let them loose. But that’s a story for an entirely different topic…

I actually read a semi-scholarly article on this – supposedly someone’s thesis project (on a .edu) – a few years back. It seemed to be less dramatic results than most ebooks proclaim, but a plausible way to generate hydrogen and increase MPG.

from the how to, though, it appeared I needed a veteran mechanic or a PhD student to get the project done – I ended up not attempting it for that reason.

There should be safer ways to save money at the gas pump. I love all my limbs, Thanks anyway!

Yeap, I was not that lost on the comment I left on the other post.

But like you say, it’s not that practical, so it would be really nice if the car companies actually made it practical or something, like they take care of it, so we just do all the easy stuff :O

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I was thinking the other day that they need a hydrogen /solar car so you would never need to charge your car just put some watter in and go. some people locally were offering hydrogen conversions for cars for $500 I wonder if it was the same process that you described

Maybe it will work, a bit skeptical though, seems waaaay to easy to do.

I don’t believe that Hydrogen is the fuel of the future. It is too explosive. If an accident happened, the explosion would wipe out an entire neighborhood! I think that air cars are the safest and cleanest forms of transportation in our future.

First of all, HYDROLYSIS is the more specific term, not electrolysis :P
While it’s scientifically possible, it’s not at all practical.
Like he said, the slightest change can cause an explosion. From what I read last year in chem, physical science, and biology, hydrogen is highly reactive. Imagine what would happen if your car spontaneously combusted or if water suddenly formed (very unlikely, but still) and your fuel tanker couldn’t hold all of it.
Either way, BOOM D:

i’d rather wait for car companies to make one that’s more reliable.
hydrogen cars could be the future to fuelling cars. ethanol is just not practical. if there really is a way to extract Hydrogen from water, thye could make a Hydrogen hybrid.. lol you fuel up your car with hydrogen, the car uses it, expels water as waste, extract Hydrogen from water, etc.. it goes on an on until you run out of water.. lol unless extracting hydrogen from water uses too much energy? idk.

Hello again,

While I do not have car for transportation, I do rely heavily on my boat for transportation. You see, my family and I run a small resort in the Bahamas, and we use the boat to pick staff and guests up (We are actually on another island). So what I began to do was filter our used fryer oil and mix it with regular diesel fuel. Newer engines cannot take such abuse as they are engineered to be used with very specific fuel specifications. Older engines, like my Detroit 651, can take just about anything you throw at them. Less fuel, less waste, more money!

I really has some truth to it as gas prices are getting higher by the day. It really has a huge hit on my wallet so alternative sources are needed soon.

I think is developing a car that runs on water… Here in the Philippines, there’s a news that he invented a car that runs on water but was confiscated by the government.. You know how corrupt the government here. They don’t want the oil industry to bankrupt that’s why they confiscated the invention.

I’ve done electrolysis for the Science Fair two years, it was cool. I never actually harnessed the hydrogen or oxygen outputted, but it was the building blocks for a fuel cell.

1. Lantern (6-9v) battery
2. Wires + Conductor
3. Cup o’ Water
YaY! Bubbles! :D

I really wish this idea of hydrogen gas in cars would take off becuase gas here is $4.12 a gallon here and to be honest i dont know how long everyone is going to take it with this. But, the idea of Hydrogen being a alternative gas has been in study for, i dont know more than 6 years and still nothing has really come out for the average car buyers.

Nobody should be allowed to sell off these scams. Things like “fuel polarizers” and gimmicks like pre-heating fuel are robbing people blind.

Water4Gas advertises plans to build a “fuel assist” device, it’s BULL! Don’t buy into it, it does really produce hydrogen from fuel but it is so minuscule it’s like tossing a grain of sand in a rock quarry, IT DOESN’T WORK.

You can make any car run off of pure hydrogen, if it’s an internal combustion engine, but it requires replacing the gas tank with a carbon fiber hydrogen tank then re-timing the engine so that it ignites at 0 degrees TDC. Then go ahead and chop off that Cat, after all your engine will ONLY emit water.

Other than that, the only way to improve gas mileage is to get a less conglomerate muffler, turbo or super charge it (super charging is preferred) or add some form of cool-air intake.

My dad is not the average American. He has been spending way too much time in the garage, in the last few weeks with mason jars filled with water and stainless steel plates hooked up to car batteries and meters. He says he is close to putting this junk into his SUV to improve the gas mileage. We’ll see!

Here in the Bluegrass State, we’ve been experimenting with Hydrogen Fuel Cells, so far, we’ve had quite a few good tests. (just search youtube for hydrogen wave3).. but Ford seems to think that they may implement this into the next few years. But, of course, its all preliminary.

I’ve done as much research as I can at the moment, and I’m confident the system works if put together properly. Yes, I believe there are people in America who will have this system running with no problem, if only they have the information given to them. After all, we aren’t all sofa-spuds.

I think its a good thing that the increasing gas prices are making people look at alternative fuels! Otherwise they would just shrug their shoulders and play dumb! Unless people put in more effort to standardize newer types of fuels, we are gonna one day have to do a Fred Flintstone with our cars!

With regards to this article, I really dont understand the point of creating different solutions to the same problem. Now that we have already established that Hydrogen, Ethanol or even electric cars are the most viable options, why do people want MORE alternatives? It’s like designing a product that will change the way you write with a pen forever! Instead of the good old way, you now will hold the pen with your nostrils! :|

Wow. People are still talking about water4gas. I blame optimism for this. Where can I buy stock in Mason Jar Co…?

Just carpool people.

There are a few tricks for not paying for gas for example you can use some sorts of oil instead of it but it’s illegal because it doesn’t contains tax for using the roads… and it may be unsafe for your car to.
(don’t try it at home)

The only good method of using hydrogen to use it with a fuel cell to produce electricity. It takes a lot of energy in electrolysis to break the bond between Oxygen and Hydrogen. In fact there is no clear alternative to pertroleum in terms of cost and ease of use. 1 kg of Hydrogen is the equivalent of 1 gallon of gasoline. Right now 1kg of Hydrogen costs between $5 and $10. It is difficult to produce in mass quantities that don’t involve producing carbon emissions. (Electrolysis is efficient, not effective).

Electric vehicles require the use of batteries, lithium-ion batteries seem the best way to go. Unfortunately, any laptop owner will tell even they don’t last forever. And try using a laptop after its left in a car over night below freezing. BTW, its not free to recharge them.

Natural gas vehicles are pretty good, but lately there is a shortage of natural gas too.

Ethanol is causing food shortages, here in Michigan a few bakeries have closed because farmers are growing corn for Ethanol and not wheat for baking – flour cost driving smaller bakeries out of business..

Even my favorites, compressed air cars, have to be refilled with air every 90 miles. But their disadvantage is not as much as hydrogen, electric, natural gas, or ethanol. See these cars at http://www.zeropollutionmotors.us .

Of course, since the average person travels less than 30 miles, the best alternatives would be biking and walking.

A lot healthier too!

i honestly dont believe in that water4gas modification unless i see it in person that it actually works, here in Dominican Republic most car owners are switching to propane gas system in their cars in order to save money and that works just fine and is cheaper (a gallon of propane gas here cost around RD$50 ( US$1.47) and regular gasoline at this moment is RD$184 (US$5.41) )

I have visited some of the sites and i hope this may work for some people and save money. BUT…does it really work. I could try for myself, but i don’t know how much it costs. Maybe it might work for many.

I think the best form of energy, that is not renewable, is nuclear power. The solution, build more nuclear power plants and more electric cars. Buy an electric car that gets 40 miles per full charge so you can get from home to work. Car companies could also have a feature in electric cars that also allow them to run at gas. The price would be a little bit more for duel-power options but at least you would be able to use both gas and electricity.

Isnt using water to run car something that causes car to have less HP?
I mean yeah its fuel eficient and svaes the “enviroment” i guess
But what about people who want cars that can actually hit 60-70

I don’t know how many times I hear water being used as gas, but until it happens, I’m not sure that it would work. I do hope that this will become a possibility however.

Thanks for the post Chris!

When I hear the word hydrogen, it make’s me think of the hydrogen bomb, and it obvious that it’s soooooo dangerous. Hydrogen fuel is at least an improvement from ethanol fuel. I think that all electric cars are better b/c there’s no gas or substances are coming from these cars.

hmm…….

That will be interesting to use!

But, for all of you who are out there, if you want a nice big house with golden lining on your pockets, here’s a little (well…quite big actually) task.

If this technology takes off, it needs to be environmentally friendly. Meaning that when water is put into the tank, it has to react with something, but (here’s the catch!), the hydrogen and oxygen must split, without having to put any energy into it. So you put water in your car, then automatically, with no energy, the hydrogen is split, and the oxygen wafts away. So technically, you don’t use any energy to split the atoms. (sorry for the speech, you kinda pick this up during science lessons!!!)

Once you have done this, you will be very, very wealthy!

Yes, you can use this method to save miles per gallon. I think it is sort of practical for short term relief. But your still depending on OPEC, the legal cartel to supply your fuel and oil. The foreign dependency is still there. There is a better way, no, not corn ethanol, but Algae!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feDEG2zhnI0
You gotta check this out.

The idea is probable. It seems to me that it is a good idea, and I think that more people should use his technique.

The problem with this idea is not the concept, rather it is the way it is being presented. I don’t think that the creators should surround it in so much secrecy. They should just tell the truth, get a patent, and sell it. The maybe more people would use the technology.

What it comes down to is having transparency…..I believe that you wrote something about that a while ago, Chris…?

Yes, If you want to know more about this, you can Watch it on Discovery Channel. Called Future car, It’s Something very interesting with models, brains, lol, but mostly on the fuel. Air, Hydrogen, Water, Ethanol all that. just take a look :).

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Dude it actually does work, It’s the 21st Century :-P. The future will be great. they are more interested in it now because of Gas prices and fossil fuels running lower.

Honestly I don’t think Hydrogen is the answer. The problem with hydrogen is that it takes to much energy to harness and it does not provide the same amount energy that gas does. I think the answer is electric cars. Right now the range is pretty far and over time the range problem will be fixed. With nuclear energy providing the energy for the cars we can help the environment and become energy independent.

This whole issue is something that I continuous read up on because I feel this is a big issue that we are not really taking a stand on just yet.

We know we have a problem with fossil fuel based cars both economical and environmental yet we are only in the early stages with coming up with a solution.

Since this is not an issues that can be resolved overnight, I think we need to do this in two steps. First, introduce modifications to existing fossil fuel powered cars and new ones that allows it to burn multiple alternative fuels such as regular gas, ethanol, bio-diesel, and diesel. Then we need to introduce an alternative fuel to solve this problem once and for all. For example, I think hydrogen is the answer. It is something that we should be able to produce very easily, its abundant, and the only bi-product is water.

Ok this is for people like me who just can’t afford to switch over and use a hybrid or wait for the next best fuel frendly car or gadget.So if u want to save money at the pump here are a few ways to do it without buying a new car or spending money where u don’t have it.First thing is make sure your tires have the correct air pressure,alot of ppl think this has nothing to do with yourfuel econemy but IT DOES!Next pop your trunk(if u have one)and take out all of that weight u have back there,Instead of a spare tire try something more efficiant like a can of fix it flat,and who doesn’t have a cell phone now days.After that Cahnge ur oil to something like low friction synthetic and if u can afford it pop in a better air filter.U could probably find enough money in the corners of your couch for that.Then think about your spark plugs and spark plug wires.Most ppl think that shutting your engine off at stop lights takes more gas then just lettin it run well THEIR WRONG,Shut your engine off and i garantie youll same money!Tanks for reading(0_0)

Oh I pray to GOD this Water4Gas thing doesn’t hit the markets in our country, lol, since the silly people here will surely go for it. I mean they are turning their .5 kva Petrol Generators to LPG, hehe, what will they do if they come to know through scam or whatever about Water4Gas thing.

If this really works btw, why are they not being used by Companies? I mean vehicles should have been coming with the electrolizer unit and everything set up by them.

Yeah, it’s possible, but as mentioned in several other comments, people don’t have the patience to do something like this. It’s already extremely bad at the moment, hence I don’t see this happening in the near future.

The thing is, as I’ve mentioned in a few other blog posts; we’re running out. Gas prices are going to hell, and we’ll probably see riots if the price gets any higher.

I would like to see something like this happen, either it be water, or some other form of energy that is able to run cars. It’ll ease the stress on the Earth’s resources, which is great for us. With Global Warming getting bad, we don’t want to make it even more dangerous.

Just my two cents.

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1.Buy a car on the end of the mounth or year.
2.Buy the last car on the year.
3.If the dealer is not giving go deals get up and walk out and tell them to call you if they have better deals.
4.Walk in with a folder with information of the car you want.
5.Dont tell the dealer that you need a car fast, and wan you walk in tell the salesman that you just want information

well it is known you can fill a balloon with hydrogen and it is explosive but a car that uses it to increase fuel mileage? Really what we need to stop doing is making cars that run on gas and make them that run on electricity whether by battery or hydrogen electric. In any case I wouldn’t believe that this would work and like you said in the post there is only one way to find out and don’t believe everything you read.

It really frustrates me that you would say you wouldn’t know were to begin. Once again the big people of the world ignore us little people. That and if I remember right didn’t the free energy speaker at Gnomedex last year make a quick remark on the subject?

Im concerned about the fact that this process kwould inteoduce a whole bunch of water into the ecosystem. Think about it. If every car on the road was using water as a fuel source, then all the exhaust would naturally be steam right? All that steam would constantly be collecting as clouds in the sky until it rains. I fear that his solution will only make it want to contantly everyday, especially in heavily urban cities! Correct me if im wrong but wouldn’t this become a very serious problem? This also doesn’t include the fact that water is very hard to come by in some places. Areas like the desert, or Florida, where I live, semms to be in A drought every year! There might not be enough water in these areas to fuel every car on the road!

“Mom, why dont companies make water cars”
“cuz once water cars are released, dad’s gonna lose his job”

same reason why they dont have collision-safe-sensors on cars (sense cars from a distance, calculate proximity and speed, then stop the car early before it goes head on into a collision), can you imagine how much business would die if car accidents would stop? medical companies, insurance companies, funeral parlors, car resellers, etc etc…

for those conspiracy theorists, if water cars existed, bush wouldnt need to make 9-11 happen XD

As much as i’d love to see cars running on water, i just don’t think it’s practical. Sure, the way that it’s explained sounds great in theory but put to practical use, it doesn’t seem fesable. If it was i think we would see an implementation of it by now.

Hydrolysis isn’t practical.

You end up spend more energy hydrolyzing water than you yield from the explosion.

The energy is just coming from another place. The battery and your cars electrical system, alternator etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysis_of_water#Efficiency

It’s not energy efficient.

i don’t get why car companies are not making hydrogen cars? all the technology that they need has already been invented and hydrogen cars would sell like crazy so they would gain tons of money, and people are saying it is to dangerous, but gas is much more dangerous then hydrogen. I just don’t get it.

The problem with water as a fuel source is it just doesn’t work water is the burnt product of hydrogen. That would be like heating with ash. You need electrical energy to split water into hydrogen and oxygen with electrolysis like a foreposter mentioned.

Btw hydrogen is not as dangerous as some made it sound it just burns realy fast. its only dangerous in a 1:2 mix with oxygen then it reacts quite heavily. But if it streams out of a compressed tank you’ll just get a big flame.

The main problem of creating hydrogen is with what energy to make it out of water? Do you burn oil,coal, to create the energy do you use atomic energy? Or solar panels, water power? So switching cars to hydrogen doesn’t really make the environment in total greener it would just move the smog from roadsides to industrial areas. And that includes the question of price what would happen to the energy price if all cars suddenly ran on electricity (over the carrier hydrogen) would it still be cheaper than gas? Besides having to replace the current infrastructure to make hydrogen available.

But back to what the original poster said, that system might work depending on how you put the hydrogen into the fuel mix, like NOS gas but getting a turbo would probably be a better idea and if you put too much hydrogen into your motor it will take damage (like with NOS) so it probably doesnt add enough to do squat.

I think that the fuel of the future will be the electricity, some legends say that Tesla already had a car working with electricity, and some when in the nearby future tones of electricity can be made with a single generator, it’s more quiet and environment friendly.

I’ve done testing them for our college’s science project. I never actually harnessed the hydrogen or oxygen outputted, but it was the building blocks for a fuel cell.

I honestly think that america is too depen…scratch that…i think that america is ADDICTED to oil…now converting to water to gas big deal..i dont think its going to happen..or at least not for a very long time…i mean, how long have we been hearing about water as a fuel? a long time…now we finally found a way to turn our food as fuel…woo hooo..who’s idea was that?…now when we run out of food, what are we going to do? but it doesnt matter because we dont have to worry about it because its not going to be in our lifetime…oh by the way ..im mexican and i really love my corn tortillas…i would hate to see a shortage of nachos because corn is being used for fuel and nacho cheese is being used for coolant

It’s very possible to get yourself from A to B for a lot cheaper than the general populace does. Most people simply don’t the time to look into alternative methods of doing things.

One analogy you could use: Cars are to bikes as Windows is to Linux. Might not be the best way to put it, but you get the idea. :)

Both are excellent ways to use computers, or get from A to B, but they both approach the scenario in different ways.

Water is hydrogen bonded with oxygen. It takes energy to break them apart. And when hydrogen burns, it turns back into water, releasing energy. If conversion efficiency were 100% in each direction, you’d get back only the energy you’d added to break the water apart–and few things in the real world operate with 100% efficiency. So Water4gas won’t work.

Producing hydrogen for fuel cells and distributing to fueling stations will also take more energy than the fuel cell produces. if your energy input comes from nonpolluting, renewable sources such as wind power, then hydrogen becomes a handy way to transport that power to a car. Further advantages are that hydrogen burns very clean (H2O is the only combustion product), and is universally available from the atmosphere.

Maybe a better way (assuming combustion pollutants can be tamed) is biofuel made from used cooking oil and such, which recycles a waste product from one source into an energy source.

Although this is plausable the idea is lacking a lot. I’ve heard of similar things using sugar water. Even if this were to work, how would it effect performance, and what kind of engine problems could arise from it.

Cars running on water, something I’ve been waiting for to tell you the truth. Gas is to expesive, come on $4.15 a gallon that’s crazy! Also, as everyone problably knows, great benifits on the enviroment and the econemy, no more fossil fuels, and other dangerous hazardous poisons we don’t need in the air. If this happened, it would be a HUGE impact on the econemy, and the world in general.

I have been doing some research on the classic, “Veggie cars”, I’m 15 at the moment and will be driving soon, so my geeky side in me is looking for gas alternatives. I was actually thinking I should buy a veggie filter and stuff now, for the future. Though, lol. You’re right. You do need to do some research and, maybe might cut off your fingers. But, there has to be some price to pay. Ya’ know? Maybe no right pinky, all I know is, I’ll be riding cheap, and I don’t need all my fingers to drive. Right? =D

I think that Solar Panels on cars is a good idea.. currently it costs about 6,000 for most cars to convert, and a lot of work. I think they should sell solar panel cars instead of gas powered cars, and have them at the same price. They could also have wind power cars, where you press a button and a wind turbine pops up to charge up the car..

The main problem with using hydrogen is producing it efficiently. It maybe that separating hydrogen and oxygen produces a performance increases in fuel economy when injected into the cylinders as portrayed in the hybrid example above. As suggest the result is a net positive but I am going to pose some questions before doing any research on the subject as a way of setting framework for possible inquiry.
1) To what degree if any does oxygen and hydrogen decrease the quantity of gasoline needed to deliver the same power?
2) Does the fuel economy gained offset the additional fuel required to produce the electricity for electrolysis and vacuum system as well as the added weight of the water?
3) Is the rate of electrolysis sufficient to supply the quantity of oxygen and hydrogen that would be required for the rapid combustion cycle of an engine?
4) Does the mixed combustion of hydrogen and gasoline produce any additional harmful compounds not produce by either when combusted independently?

Well what about the hydrogen cars H2. I’m guessing if a car can take out oxygen from water well then all thats left is H2 which is supose to run better then gas and be able to get better milage also…

also wouldn’t be better for the US in the long wrong especially if its one of the US automobile makers like Ford and GM. That way we wont have to rely on other countries for gas since thats already getting us into a lot of trouble.

I am tired of these commercials on the Television claiming that Ethanol and solar power will save us all. THEY WILL NOT! The most promising alternative form I have seen is the compress air car from the French:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ov4t1P9bdGw

I think this car has some definite possibilities.

This is why I’m glad that I live in an area that’s extremely public transport and bicycle friendly. I never miss not having a car and get to help reduce carbon emissions at the same time =)

This might sound dumb, but I really just don’t understand how the hell it is supposed to work…is hydrogen flammable? I’m pretty sure it is.

Would someone please explain this to me?

Went back on today. Excellent feedback guys, I read everything :D
It seems like many of you are against it because it’s either “not practical” or causing food shortages.
It indeed is costly to make them into fuel-ready corn oil, and is unstable at high and low temperatures.
However, it has considerable “green effects” for the driving nation. According to http://tinyurl.com/3lhqba (enter a preview. if you don’t want to go there directly) Nation Geographic, mileage increases by 3% and decrease nitrogen oxide (<- smog) by 75%
As for the food shortages area, if the government decides to use this as the alternative source, they should be setting laws on the balance between fuel-compatible corn and edible corn.

“Almost a century ago, Nikola Tesla made the discovery that water is a very powerful energy source. But his discovery was kept hidden for a long time. The billion dollar oil industry would lose a lot of money, if the public replaced gasoline with water.
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I found this very interesting knowing how much money earn “black gold” people.I heard that in 10 years will be no gas for cars.I don’t know if this is true but rising oil price reaching 130$ is a point to this.

This won’t work. Energy is conserved–you can’t get something for nothing. And like every other con which tries to sell you something for nothing, you get nothing for something. Selling these things is like a tax on not learning anything in high school science.

Water is already burnt hydrogen. Thus, hydrogen has already lost it’s energy when it combined with oxygen to make water. It takes energy to pull the oxygen off the hydrogen again. Batteries can supply this energy but you have got to get the energy from somewhere. Your car battery gets its energy from the engine and the car engine gets its energy from the fuel.

If everything were 100% efficient, you’d just break even. But everything is not 100% efficient so the process just costs you energy and you end up with less usable energy.

Even if hydrogen burned more efficiently than gasoline — which it doesn’t — it would still be an impossible plan.

On the other hand, you can get more energy out of an engine by shooting a little bit of water into the cylinder just after the gasoline has exploded. Since the cylinder is very hot, the water will turn into steam and help push the piston up. This effectively uses more of the engine’s heat and helps to cool the engine in the bargain.

On the other hand, the rapid cooling of the engine tends to crack or warp metals. There are people investigating exotic materials to try to make this process more reliable, but they haven’t succeeded so far.

Water powered technology has been around for decades! There are patents that go way back to the 1950s on things like this – from what I’ve heard, when they began coming out with easy/cheap ways to create vehicles, the combustion vehicle took off simply because of how quick they makers were able to get it out on the market. So that put all the other prototype machines on hold.

However, the technology was being developed and has been developed for ages. The only problem is that big companies (to keep the competition from overpowering their frontiers) have been purchasing the rights to these patents and sitting on them. So now we’re not seeing these new types of technologies in the form of water-power and such.

And yes, they HAVE proven a way of creating a water powered vehicle that would not take up more gas to power! This argument has been spiraling out of control – I look at it this way… if you can imagine it… it’s probably either already been done or going to happen not to far off in the near future! And water powered technology has been around for a LONG time. I doubt the idea will go away any time soon either!

Kind Regards,
-Shaina

Well talking about hybrids, this is a method that could be developed into practicality by engineers until it becomes safe and applicable, but what car manufacturer is going to install it? Petroleum is a greedy monster that will not go down without a fight to the death, and although it must eventually go down, it is still at the moment whacking any attempt to develop any alternative. But why stop at simple electroysis? Magnetic motors and “perpetual motion” machines are already being seen on the Internet, and frankly, the working models are working. And then there is the MEG device, already patented, which, or so it is stated, can put out more power than it takes in by tapping what physicists call “the vacuum”. They give it that odd name because they already know that they are talking about “interdimensional” implementation, and they have to be very careful how they approach that subject in the scientific community. In this case, they not only have Big Oil working against them, but also their skeptical colleagues. However the MEG device does what it claims, and that fact remains.

I did a report on this
it is going to take more eneregy to turn the water into fuel than
you get out of burning the feul

Theres lot of possibilities on filling up your car, and I agree that Petrol is starting to run low and other alternatives are becoming available. I wish the US auto mobiles would produce as economical cars as Europe. It would practically double the length of time we have the remaining fuel. Which will give scientists more time to find a solution, and everyone will be happy :)

Of course it works, but as has been said,
you need a different fuel tank and timing needs to be reset.
Also, kiss your car’s warranty goodbye and keep daily vigil on your engine.
The extra explosive force may be a bit much for some over-engineered aluminum.

The cooking oil use in diesel engines will work in newer engines, but there’s a procedure for filtering it first .
There’s a fellow up here in Alaska that’s been doing it for years.
He runs his diesels on 50 cent a gallon waste oil from local restaurants and gets 44 MPG.

More people up here are starting to do similar things.
It all depends when the price of gas outweighs the inconvenience of filtering and purchasing oil, converting fuel feeds, or doing some minor, but dirty mechanical work.

It’s not rocket science, but common sense and some research ARE required!

I personally think that public transportation services should install monorails through out many of the major cities. There should also be similar monorails following virtually every bus route. A fixed track system (elevated off the ground of course) would greatly reduce inner city gas usage that does nothing more than waist our planet’s valuable resources.

Basic chemistry fail alert! Guys, no matter how you try, you cannot, CAN NOT get more energy out of a reaction than you put in. Perpetuum mobile devices are a stupid hoax, but somehow people keep believing this crap.

First: a catalyst DOES NOT reduce the amount of energy needed for a chemical reaction. What catalysts do is speed up a reaction or make it even possible by creating the right conditions for the reaction to take place. But they do not affect the energy balance.

With that in mind, think: if you electrolyze water into oxygen and hydrogen, you need to spend at least as much energy doing that as you are getting back when recombining the two elements.

I say “at least” because power is lost
- at the generator
- in transmission
- at the electrolysis chamber due to heat

then, when burning the stuff again in the engine, even more energy is lost due to
- heat
- other chemical side-reactions
- mechanical transmission, friction

Everyone with a high school diploma should know this. Why is this getting so much attention? At the very least, this magic device consumes even more fuel because it increases resistance from the electrical generator to power the electrolysis chamber.

On top of that, your engine is not designed to burn hydrogen. You are going to produce unwanted chemicals that harm the environment, such as nitrous oxides and in the process you will shorten the livespan of your engine by making it run hotter. That is IF this device even manages to produce any amount of hydrogen to make a difference at all, and I don’t see that happening without a hefty upgrade to the generator to begin with – thereby reducing your mileage even further.

Why, oh why?!?

If they could actually get this to work, I think it could take off. The only problem I see is: if we are using all of the world’s water for our cars, what will we have left to put in our bodies? I guess we will just have to create artificial water just like we create everything else.

Almost all of these alternative energy ideas will work. The problem is kicking the crack habit the world has on oil right now. We either need to run really low on supply, or check our world governments into rehab to even consider bringing these ideas to the forefront.

I thought it was could hydrolysis, a process in where you break water to its component elements: hydrogen and oxygen, by passing electricity through. But then you need electricity. I assumed that it come from the cars battery.

Don’t overestimate by the ‘hydrogen is explosive” stuff. Yes it is true, but the apparatus presented produces only little amounts of hydrogen to be of any harm. If it does leak and ignite, all you get is a popping sound. Not that scary isn’t It? It’s because even if the car caries a lot of hydrogen, its in a relatively harmless, noncombustible form: water.

But then where would we get the electricity to charge the car battery? If it comes from the house wiring which in turns came from a smoke belching electricity plants, It does not do what it supposed to do: prevent pollution.

But then such is a great idea. the article seems to hide some details(like the mileage, it does include the electricity consumption), but I still believe that its a possibly great solution to our bad car exhaust and high oil prices.

This is a scam.

Engines are designed to mix a proper ratio of gas vapor to air.

You CANNOT ‘improve’ the process and if anything putting a fuel with different volitile properties in without modifying the ratios is stupid and likely to leave you with a blown engine and a REALLY BIG FIRE.

…… been around enough decades to see all this stuff before, kiddies…

As far as I know, water has never really had any energy has it? I never really understood how it could be done… The only thing I could possibly see happen is solar power.

Ethanol im not so sure about. But for hydrogen, i think you have to go to a special gas station to get it. Btw what do you think will happen to the water fuel in cold places such as Canada? It will freeze. A similar event happened in Ontario when they tried to use fish oil in city transport busses. It froze on a cold morning and the bus stopped operating.

Even though the e-book many not be true right now, I think that the cars of the future will have something to do with running on water. If we could figure out how to convert water into hydrogen, we could potentially solve the gas crisis forever.

I dont seen elec cars being much use becouse the you still well be using the power form coal form the elec cos.

There are so many things we could have done to prevent our current dependence on oil. I feel that many of our politicians purposely ignored this issue for obvious financial gain. The next president will certainly have to face this issue sooner, rather than later.

Practical? Not really… Intriguing? Definitely.
We all go with the mainstream choices for one reason, we’re a hurried society… we want everything easy, who doesn’t. The problem comes when they things we rely slowly become out of reach, then we’re forced to alternate methods and ideas. This is in some ways responsible for progression of society, although it seems like a shock to us at first.
As for believing things from the internet, or anywhere else for that matter, I say believe what you will but make sure you research something before you call it law.

Has anyone though that It might not be the hydrogen but the extra oxygen that making the difference.
H2O…. 66% hydrogen and 33% Oxygen… If My 8 grade science teacher was right isn’t normal air 20 or 21% Oxygen??? It doesn’t take much extra Oxygen to increase the BOOM factor. Ask any race car driver that has used Nitrous Oxide. Now the safety of doing this is another subject all together…. Can it be done… I’d say yes. Should you do it??? Maybe not.

I think this will be possible in the near future, I mean we may drive our cars using water really.

We have been seeing in movies since our childhood that we can drive cars using trash, water and many things.

But after reading all the comments , some people are saying that this is completely a scam, even though this is a scam now it may become fact tomorrow and i will wait for it because we can decrease our pollution and protect ozone.

I also hope that our refrigerators, a.c’s and all the devices that we run will implement this.

But where can we find that much plenty of water???

Of course, our source of oil will have to run out at some point or another. Electrolysis sounds very interesting, but I don’t know if it will ever become mainstream.

I think Water based gas is the best way to extract energy from for cars and i’m sure if they will keep on researching that then they can find something great about it. I read some where that there might be a way to get energy from sea water. Some how they are able to collect the energy by splitting the molecules.

This is all deception and pseudoscience. Don’t be fooled (or fueled :-).

Take a look at Don Lancaster’s detailed debunking at http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu08.asp#05-22-08 .

Udo: I’ve heard this a LOT from people… but what other’s fail to recognize is just because the technology cannot be applied to the engines we have today doesn’t mean that we can’t develop the technology to further along a better product later.

Your argument is that based on the type of reaction we’re trying to make… it doesn’t work. But have you figured ALL the different ways in which things fuse and work? We KNOW that hydrogen is a very powerful molecule and has the potential to create great energy… so should we give up because our prior research didn’t work?

I can almost guarantee that there are things we have not yet discovered… and it’ll probably be like a smack in the forehead when we figure it out! So don’t knock it yet!

Kind Regards,
-Shaina

I think hydrogen is the way to go. You can separate water to get it. It is also better for the environment.

I recently saw a video on youtube about this and it realy made me think. I personaly have a car myself and with the petrol / diesel costs rising all the time its becoming more and more hard for me to get around e.g college / work and lesiure. Having this technology water4gas would make everything alot more better. Not just for the enviroment but for everyone and their day to day lifes. The only problem i can think of is the government not geting their nice big package of money out of it. I supose there gonna have to start charging tripple for water now if this technology ever does come to life ! But on the whole i would love to see this enter reality in cars and think it would have a bright fuiture :)

People and politicians should look into this more as a priority, it can help save the environment, all this about plastic bags, yeh it helps but what about the billions of cars, that is way worse, chris u have touched on an important topic…

i’ve heard about this for years. if it was practical in any way, we’d have seen water running cars looooong ago.

If only oil companys would care less about ther profits and more about the world :)

I spoke with my dad(he is an auto-mechanic and instructor) on this subject several months ago. He said it would be very inefficient to make a purely hydrogen powered car because the electrolysis would take much more power than a 12v car battery could provide. He also said that hydrogen assistance would be a bad idea because you would need to make hundreds of dollars of modifications to your engine so that it wouldn’t rust out (among other problems).

Is there any way he can send us the exact instructions for the hydrogen converter? I would love to play around with this even if I can’t use it in my current vehicle.

Seems like a pretty risky experiment to say the least. Are you willing to risk the complete functionality of your car to save a few bucks? Along with the safety factor, i dont think that it is very practical too. Unless manufacturers started to make high strength ones, i would try it for myself :)

“Water4Gas is one of the most PRACTICAL free-energy devices, marked by extraordinary simplicity and effectiveness.
Water4Gas is a technology based on splitting water on board a vehicle, and using the resulting gases not to drive the vehicle – but only to boost the efficiency of its combustion. The effects of this technology is lowered emissions and improved mileage, simply due to a MORE COMPLETE COMBUSTION”

Seems very interesting

There are some major issues I see frequently overlooked with all these alternative fuel fads.

1) Sure, alternative fuel is great, but where do I fuel? If I have to travel pretty far out of my way to find these alternative fuel stations, is it really worth it? It might end up burning just as much, or more, fuel than before. The lack of viable stations ends up causing exhausts and prices to balance.

2) What about travel? Alternative fuel is environmentally friendly, or so they say (we won’t get into that here), but how far can I go with it? I frequently travel between NC and FL using I-75. I have a set route, a set path, and certain places to stop. Many alternative fuel options have lower gas mileage. On top of this, even for the ones with excellent MPG, where do I stop to get it along my path? I don’t want to go way out of my way and tack on another 30 mins to an hour on an already 8 hour drive just for fuel….

3) Burning healthy? They say these alternative fuels are environmentally friendly and use less scarce resources. Some of the resources used are actually in more danger of being used up quickly than petrol. Also, burning things like oils and grease (as some people suggest is great) not only burns so quickly it’s impractical, it’s actually, also, less environmentally responsible!

anything that will help will be great, I’ve been talking in some alt energy chats, and many of the people have started working on projects either by themselves or as a group its good to see more being done to end oil usage

That would be cool to see cars run on water but then after a while what will we have left to drink lol. Maybe for a little while since this “Global Warming” thing is happening this could be the way to get rid of the extra water lol. But dont think that water will be the good thing to use as our Future Fuel. We need something Cheap that gives good mileage and that doesnt harm our planet, Water is not that fuel though. it might meet those needs but its not the right thing in my opinion.

Well , Jay Leno likes nice cars , he got Steam power cars, it would be very cool to roll by in a steam powered car, many people doesn’t believe that steam powered cars are good enough for todays standards but it is, look at old locomotives they have to pull and push all those tons, that is impressive, i wonder if water powered car really can run, that would really be cool.

The Earth is 75 percent water, that is a lot of resource to be used up. However, I think that they need to make a compound so that the waste is reused, or that if we use water, the water doesn’t evaporate and can be used again. We recycle paper, why not the waste in our cars.?

i personally believe that hydrogen fuel cells are the future of the car industry and that we are probably going to have hydrogen fuel stations within the next 20 years or so because they are just way better for the enviroment

I’ve seen that stuff before on TV. I’m sure it would work just fine, except for the fact that Hydrogen gas is very dangerous, and its agitation is a lot more hazardous than lighting ethanol on fire. I’ve also seen stuff about powering cars with Tritium, or maybe even electricity or solar power. THese are all really great ideas, but there’s a huge problem I see that questions the practicality of the matter: changing car fuel means, change in cars, gas stations, oil refineries, etc. Companies associated with those things must expend ALOT of money, setting up new “gas pump”, trashing all the cars and making new ones, or remodel of current cars, etc. Not to mention the consumer aspect, where your car that you bought for 20,000 dollars is now practically worthless. I don’t think as a society we’re ready to move onto radical changes like this. If it was a society where everybody is best friends with one another and a trust could be developed to maybe even bring up the idea, we might stand a chance.

It would be totally cool if cars could run on water, but I’ll believe it when I see it. ;0P Thanks for the tip!

Alternative fuel will never take off unless the auto companies start supporting it more

Very nice I wish it was like that.

I’ve done a little bit of reading on the subject. It seems that the technology itself is valid. In fact, adding hydrogen gas to your intake gases can reduce gas consumption at idle by up to 50%. And the fact that it takes energy to produce the hydrogen doesn’t diminish the energy savings.
That, in itself beats the Prius, which you have to own for 30 years to actually save any energy. The energy to product the battery is more than the savings in gasoline over those 30 years.
So it comes down to the question of whether a Mason jar with explosive gas should be kept in your car and whether you can actually rig together something and still keep it efficient.

The 1st law of Thermodynamics [1] says: Energy is neither destroyed or created. Basically that means that the energy applied to the water to perform the hydrolysis will be (at most) equal to the eventual energy released in the hydrogen/oxygen gas (HHO). So your alternator must work harder in order to generate the needed power. This in-turn obviously reduces your vehicles fuel efficiency. HHO creation and consumption by itself, according to the most basic laws of physics, cannot possibly create a more fuel efficient car. It should actually make your car less efficient.

BUT, the part I am still struggling with and the issue that might actually make this legit is that the flash point of HHO is much less than that of gasoline vapor. HHO will ignite in the combustion chamber BEFORE the gasoline. Theoretically, this could mean that the HHO could act as an accelerant [2] for the fuel that is burned in the engine cylinder. This is important because a large amount (citation?) of exhaust pollution is actually unburned or partially burned fuel. You’re basically just pouring that pricey$$ unused gasoline out the tail pipe.

So my hypothesis is (no experimenting or anything) that the HHO acts as an accelerant and causes a more complete/clean/powerful burn in the combustion chamber. That translates to more horsepower and less pollution.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_law_of_thermodynamics
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerant

Okay: Bottom line. Dunnit. Didn’t work (2 tankfuls run through, no difference in driving habits, etc.). I *MIGHT* have gotten 1 mpg better but we’re talking decimal points and eye-droppersful of gas here. Engine temp increased avg of 15 degrees and exhaust started to smell different which suggests ??? chemical byproducts.

Did I take it out? Stop me in the street and ask me!

[...] response to Alternative Fuel and Hybrid Modifications: Water4Gas?, long-time Gnomie Jeff Partridge [...]

I live in Los Angeles and see people abuse their cars destroying any kind of decent gas mileage out of them they may get. About 30 or so years ago there was an item on one of the news stations on TV. It was about a mechanic in Santa Monica who was converting regular gas engines to a hybrid electric-gasoline. The new power set-up was mostly electric. That is, he got a large electric motor that ran the car and had a small gasoline engine that ran an alternator that charged a battery and the battery ran the electric motor. He got freeway speeds and over 200 miles to the gallon. I don’t understand why the auto manufacturers don’t work with a system like this. It’s simple and efficient. But then, the auto manufacturers don’t want to rain on the oil company’s parade by using power systems that don’t include some oil-based energy source.

Dont get ripped off, electrolysis does work, but with an efficiancy of only 50-70% (converting electrical power to H2 and O2 chemical power). You would be better off hooking up a small electric motor to your drive train, then you would only loose 20% through power transfer from your alternator, or better yet , DONT add extra drag on your electrical system to begin with. I work at a plant that makes hypo-chlorite through electrolysis, the main by-product being H2, our generators run on 1275AMPs minnimum.

Free plans exsist. Look up Smack or Bob Boyce. I just got interested 6-15-08. My brother-in law bought the water4gas books.
We are gathering the parts to build units and try them.
Just reading the basics from the top competitors to water4gas and finding out that the onboard computer on your car is designed to give you poor gas mileage should be enough to tick people off. The real answer probably is hacking the on board computer. Toyota pulled some Echo’s a couple of years ago because they were getting 100 mph. Just like the “Who killed the electric car”story.
Are we stupid to try? Nah. I look at most of the comments on your board and see the reason we will pay whatever Big oil tells us. Every body wants to talk but, very few will actually do anything.
What will it cost us to check it out? A couple of hundred dollars in the long run. That is pretty cheap. I see a lot of school kids carrying cell phones and ipods that cost much more than this technology. Gamers I work with spend more on one game than a ready made unit is selling for.
Perhaps it would work just enough to inspire one person or group out there to make a massive improvement or break off with an completely new technology ( hack the on board computer).
Just negative talking and saying it will never work is what 95% of people have always done. This includes Discovering the Americas, the Telephone, manned flight, computers, Real Estate,Space exploration,
We can do something if we try. Otherwise if you keep doing what you are doing now you will continue to have what you have now. Nothing but, an opinion.

1. the only way such thing would work is that the hydrogen is superadditive ie. chemicaly enhances combustion proces of fuel mixture. i do not think that is the case.
2. books are expensive – smells of rat
3. i read just addvertising bit looking for technical glitches. the one think i found incorrect is that spiral rod produces more hydrogen than plates. efficiency of electrolysis depends on the surface of the imersed electrode, plate has greater.
4. the energy invested into production of hydrogen is small hence the quantity of hydrogen is also amall. it would be simplier to get needed hydrogen from small container. why electrolysys on site if we need such small quantities.
5. if that would work it would be worldwide sensation

heard above of good link – im going to read it. it is http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu08.asp#05-22-08 .

I actually watched as my neighbor converted his 1998 doge van. It was simple. I just heard about this last night but think it is an awesome idea. Water is a resourse that is extremely prevelent and no chance of using it up. Even with all the gas being used, are we in danger of using up all the oil? NO. the Hydrogen is converted in to a vapor and injected right into the air breather of the car. It is simular to spraying starting fluid into the air breather when the car won’t start. The 1 quart jar lasts for almost a month so I don’t see ANY danger in using up oceans of water.

My, my,

So much conjecture, supposition, guesswork, and “I don’t think it will work; but I’ve never even tested it myself” responses!

What are you people smoking? Have you ever heard of a “heat pump”? It’s an air conditioner that runs a reverse cycle to put heat in a structure instead of take it out as the “normal” function of an air conditioner does.

I’m very worried about how much university professors are getting paid to turn out such “brain trusts” as some of the comments on this site would indicate.

Using hydrogen to produce energy? Check out this link to the NASA web site. They have been using “hydrogen” and “oxygen” to produce energy very well in spacecraft for many many years.

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/technology/fuel_cells.html

If you can produce heat from an air conditioner, simply by running the cycle in reverse; what makes you think you can’t run a “fuel cell” in reverse and, instead of producing H20 as a byproduct from the interaction of hydrogen and oxygen, produce hydrogen and oxygen by splitting water via hydrolysis?

Anyone up on their nuclear theory? What do you get when you release the energy from just on atom? Answer – a lot of energy.

What do you get when you break down a molecule of water? Two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom.

Produced in adequate volume; it is an excellent addition to the regular gas being disbursed to the engine through the injectors or carb.

The hydrogen is introduced into the engine by tapping a line into the air intake to the engine. Normal vacuum draws the gas in. YOU DON’T PUT WATER INTO YOUR GAS TANK AND EXPECT SOMETHING TO HAPPEN as it sounds like some of you think.

In the system in question the gas is only generated while the car is in operation. When you turn off the ignition – the process stops. Hydrogen gas on demand. Not pressurized.

Do us all a favor and go do your homework/research before feeling the necessity to share with the rest of the class.

Don’t trust all that you read on the internet? Absolutely! But remember; that works both ways.

There are people monitoring the web every day to try and debunk valid ideas that would take away from their employers’ bottom line. They can’t undersell it; so they have to try to make people believe it won’t work. They always convince a few gullible suckers their right.

Before closing; I’m sure some of you have heard of the “urban legend” of using “acetone” to get better gas mileage? Many sites quote “experts” in the car and chemical industry who say it’s a hoax. It won’t work. It will melt your fuel system lines.

Well I’m puzzled.

If it’s a hoax; how is it that after I have been adding 2 ounces of acetone to 10 gallons of gas in my 91 Ford Escort wagon for the past year I am getting in excess of 10% better MPG?

When I test again by not adding the acetone, when I fill up, my mileage drops back down again. Is it just my imagination?

Are my “total miles driven” and my “total gallons used to fill up my tank” lying? It’s math. It doesn’t know how to lie.

Think about that the next time you go and make a childish comment like – “if it really worked the car industry would be using it”. Do you see the car industry blowing their horn about using acetone?

I rest my case.

I suggest some of you folks get your behinds out of the lab, or wherever you hang out, and do some “practical application” work and stop looking like a bunch of idiots who are doing nothing but theorizing 24 hours a day.

Class dismissed!

Is it really a scam?
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You don’t have to try something to understand that it works.
I’ve seen facts on the news and all over the Internet, that running a car on water IS possible.

Even that I haven’t tried doing it, it doesn’t mean that it’s impossible.

I didn’t believe in water4gas either. I’m no man of science, so I can only blieve what others say. I read in so many places that there is no way you can produce enough hydrogen to produce energy to run a car. You could, but then you have to give more input than just the car battery current. And they said it was against the 3rd (or 2nd) law of entropy.
Then I came across this site http://water4gas-scam.com which actually says that it is not the hydrogen that produces the extra energy. It is the gasoline itself that does it. Hydrogen quickly burns increasing the thermodynamics in favor of gasoline combustion and instead of the regular 25%, you get 50% gasoline burning, which otherwise would have gone out as unburnt hydrocarbons. You just doubled your gas mileage, congratulations!
I have no idea if this is right or wrong, this is what I figured reading the above site, sorry if I misinterpreted, as I said, I’m no man of science!

Oops I am late to this one….

For a fact, adding supplemental hydrogen will allow more efficient combustion of gasoline and diesel engines alike.

Everyone who is saying it can’t be done for whatever reason is simply full of it and has never tried it properly… OR they have an agenda. Always beware of folks who tell you “it is impossible” or “it can’t be done”.

I drive a turbo sports car that gets 41mpg thanks to my own simple hydrogen generator. I have hydrogen generators in all of my vehicles… even my 250cc scooter! My 4×4 now gets highway mileage in the city thanks to the very same hydrogen booster.

Let me state this more clearly… I have a hybrid Nissan 240sx turbo. With roughly 220hp it has plenty of get up and go to put a big grin on any guys face… and at the same time… It gets upwards of 41mpg on the highway. I can boil off a set of tires and still get fairly great economy too. Fast and GREEN!

Click my name for a free video that will show you how to build a hydrogen booster that is a bit more efficient than the wire coil type folks are talking about here. No strings… no expensive ebooks… lol

I will warn that the “water4gas” system, as they teach it, has a tendency to have problems being airtight. They use a plastic lid that allows hydrogen to seep around the edges. Watch my video to see how to overcome this issue.

While water4gas has the right idea… learn how to build a slightly better system and you will see some amazing results! Hydrogen supplementation does work folks… try if for yourself!

~Jason
HydroHybrids.net