Comments on: A Victim of eBay Fraud http://chris.pirillo.com/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/ News and Reviews! Geek, Internet Entrepreneur, Hardware Addict, Software Junkie, Book Author, Once TV Show Host, Technology Enthusiast, Shameless Self-Promoter, Tech Conference Coordinator, Early Adopter, Idea Evangelist, Tech Support Blogger, Bootstrapper, Media Personality, Technology Consultant, Thicker Quicker Picker Upper. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:37:17 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Glen Morehousehttp://chris.pirillo.com/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-722577 Glen Morehouse Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:06:08 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/07/02/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/#comment-722577 Mikey, this just happened to me. I bought software from Edward Crow of Georgia, USA, business name: 2009softwaredeals on eBay and used PayPal. I received no product and PayPal was totally unhelpful.I would have left negative feedback, but the seller and PayPal strung me along until the time limit was over. Now I don't even have the opportunity to warn others! Except here.Fair warning: if you do business with eBay or PayPal, watch your back. Mikey, this just happened to me. I bought software from Edward Crow of Georgia, USA, business name: 2009softwaredeals on eBay and used PayPal. I received no product and PayPal was totally unhelpful.

I would have left negative feedback, but the seller and PayPal strung me along until the time limit was over. Now I don’t even have the opportunity to warn others! Except here.

Fair warning: if you do business with eBay or PayPal, watch your back.

]]> By: mikeyhttp://chris.pirillo.com/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-686156 mikey Sun, 28 Sep 2008 00:35:35 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/07/02/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/#comment-686156 if i buy any thing from e bay is there any chance of the seller not sending the product ? if i buy any thing from e bay is there any chance of the seller not sending the product ?

]]> By: DA_Steeltitanhttp://chris.pirillo.com/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-573104 DA_Steeltitan Mon, 31 Dec 2007 04:03:07 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/07/02/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/#comment-573104 that would suck to be him.... i really hope you've gotten your money back buddy... it sucks to be frauded like that, my brother got frauded like that once. that would suck to be him….
i really hope you’ve gotten your money back buddy…
it sucks to be frauded like that, my brother got frauded like that once.

]]> By: Johnhttp://chris.pirillo.com/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-544012 John Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:43:38 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/07/02/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/#comment-544012 I , after having a go-around with ebay billing dept, am leaving ebay for another site. seems they don't care about anybody getting burned as long as they get their fees. What do you do when you walk into a retail store and they treat you like crap? Go to another store. I , after having a go-around with ebay billing dept, am leaving ebay for another site. seems they don’t care about anybody getting burned as long as they get their fees. What do you do when you walk into a retail store and they treat you like crap? Go to another store.

]]> By: jameshttp://chris.pirillo.com/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-542203 james Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:54:05 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/07/02/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/#comment-542203 i recently purchased tickets thru ebay and paid via paypal (i have done this multiple times in the past). the seller stated that the tickets would not be sent until the week of the concert. i didn't feel that was a big deal, he had very good feedback, and based on the feedback he was in the ticket buisness. well, guess what? i never recieved the tickets. paypal won't touch it because it is past the 45 day reporting period, and ebay won't touch it because i paid thru paypal. based on the comments above, i am hoping my credit card company will come thru. i recently purchased tickets thru ebay and paid via paypal (i have done this multiple times in the past). the seller stated that the tickets would not be sent until the week of the concert. i didn’t feel that was a big deal, he had very good feedback, and based on the feedback he was in the ticket buisness. well, guess what? i never recieved the tickets. paypal won’t touch it because it is past the 45 day reporting period, and ebay won’t touch it because i paid thru paypal. based on the comments above, i am hoping my credit card company will come thru.

]]> By: sandyhttp://chris.pirillo.com/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-530724 sandy Mon, 10 Sep 2007 03:21:15 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/07/02/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/#comment-530724 My boyfriend is new to ebay and just learned a hard lesson. He bid on an old truck. Was told to send half the money as down payment and that the truck would be delivered. He sent half the money then got a notice that his payment had been received and to send the rest. He was suspicious and didn't send the rest and has had no luck getting ebay to respond to his complaints. It looked like a ligitimate ebay website and the correspondance look official. It's sad that ebay doesn't seem to care. When we tried to get the sellers information, ebay stated that they couldn't give it to us because the truck was no longer on the site. Do they not have records of previous auctions? - bad business. My boyfriend is new to ebay and just learned a hard lesson. He bid on an old truck. Was told to send half the money as down payment and that the truck would be delivered. He sent half the money then got a notice that his payment had been received and to send the rest. He was suspicious and didn’t send the rest and has had no luck getting ebay to respond to his complaints. It looked like a ligitimate ebay website and the correspondance look official. It’s sad that ebay doesn’t seem to care. When we tried to get the sellers information, ebay stated that they couldn’t give it to us because the truck was no longer on the site. Do they not have records of previous auctions? – bad business.

]]> By: Gideonhttp://chris.pirillo.com/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-530667 Gideon Sun, 09 Sep 2007 13:11:08 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/07/02/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/#comment-530667 In my case I've bought from a Ebay.de 2 sellers which dissapeared with my money and left me a hole of 90 Euro.. In Germany as you probably don't know Paypal is almost invisible. Only money Bank transfers. In this case you can talk to the moon. No money refund and no one to complaint In my case I’ve bought from a Ebay.de 2 sellers which dissapeared with my money and left me a hole of 90 Euro..
In Germany as you probably don’t know Paypal is almost invisible.
Only money Bank transfers.
In this case you can talk to the moon.
No money refund and no one to complaint

]]> By: Fredhttp://chris.pirillo.com/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-529211 Fred Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:33:21 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/07/02/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/#comment-529211 I have included the URL of an article in my blog about how I believe ebay / paypal appears to condone fraud. An international buyer used the same NAME and ADDRESS to set up an account 3 separate times. Each time he quickly bought 10-25 items then since he is international he reversed the Paypal payment before a 1 month period was up. Moral of the story: You could get better service than from eBay but you couldn't pay more! I have included the URL of an article in my blog about how I believe ebay / paypal appears to condone fraud. An international buyer used the same NAME and ADDRESS to set up an account 3 separate times. Each time he quickly bought 10-25 items then since he is international he reversed the Paypal payment before a 1 month period was up. Moral of the story: You could get better service than from eBay but you couldn’t pay more!

]]> By: mzilikazihttp://chris.pirillo.com/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-466186 mzilikazi Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:31:25 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/07/02/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/#comment-466186 This is exactly why I will never use Ebay or PayPal again. There just isn't a good enough guarantee that I'll get what I bought. This is exactly why I will never use Ebay or PayPal again. There just isn’t a good enough guarantee that I’ll get what I bought.

]]> By: Larry LaMonthttp://chris.pirillo.com/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-463327 Larry LaMont Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:11:04 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/07/02/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/#comment-463327 As mentioned by a couple of other responses, as a card member, Visa, Mastercard and American Express will stand behind you through their chargeback programs. Regarding the bankcards (VI & MC), be sure you are not using a "Check Card" when making these purchases. This is just another name for off line debit. Once the transaction is consummated, the money is no longer in your possession. You may well get your refund, but you will also not have the cash until the matter is settled. As mentioned by a couple of other responses, as a card member, Visa, Mastercard and American Express will stand behind you through their chargeback programs. Regarding the bankcards (VI & MC), be sure you are not using a “Check Card” when making these purchases. This is just another name for off line debit. Once the transaction is consummated, the money is no longer in your possession. You may well get your refund, but you will also not have the cash until the matter is settled.

]]> By: Hugoton Horatiohttp://chris.pirillo.com/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-458829 Hugoton Horatio Fri, 06 Jul 2007 09:46:12 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/07/02/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/#comment-458829 All this Paypal/Ebay this and that. I bought quite a while back off Ebay and only used U. S. Postal Service Money Order. Figured if some one was going to try to rip me off, would let them get involved with the USPS investigators, they don't cotton to mail fraud. All this Paypal/Ebay this and that. I bought quite a while back off
Ebay and only used U. S. Postal Service Money Order. Figured if some
one was going to try to rip me off, would let them get involved with the
USPS investigators, they don’t cotton to mail fraud.

]]> By: Malignedtruthhttp://chris.pirillo.com/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-455985 Malignedtruth Wed, 04 Jul 2007 16:12:42 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/07/02/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/#comment-455985 Everyone I know has stopped using eBay, due to the fraud. Too bad, eBay.There are enough honest dealers on other auction sites and on the web, at local flea markets, and through local computer dealers!If eBay spent any effort cleaning up the fraud, actually responding to the customers like Travis and the other ten folks who were cheated, they would have a chance to retain their auction empire.I have shut down several of the lottery auctions of chances to win computers. It is so obvious a fraud that you should have reported it, instead of playing it! Everyone I know has stopped using eBay, due to the fraud. Too bad, eBay.

There are enough honest dealers on other auction sites and on the web, at local flea markets, and through local computer dealers!

If eBay spent any effort cleaning up the fraud, actually responding to the customers like Travis and the other ten folks who were cheated, they would have a chance to retain their auction empire.

I have shut down several of the lottery auctions of chances to win computers. It is so obvious a fraud that you should have reported it, instead of playing it!

]]> By: Kent Smithhttp://chris.pirillo.com/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-455595 Kent Smith Wed, 04 Jul 2007 10:19:22 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/07/02/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/#comment-455595 I buy things from Ebay periodically. The trick is, you've got to buy from sellers whom you've bought from before, or someone you know personally has bought from. Ebay is a great idea, and it's also a great big thieves market. The company behind it supports their sellers, from whom they get a percentage. They have no interest in their honesty. Ebay will never support you, or come to your aid, or do anything but make it as difficult as possible for you to claim your rights.Paypal is also a kind of criminal enterprise, and they're already in trouble in some countries. That's another story in itself, but if you possibly can, you're way ahead of the game by paying with a credit card.The day will come when at least some the bosses behind Ebay will be in prison. No doubt they know they're playing with fire. But for the time being they're just cashing in big-time and hoping for the best. Buyer beware indeed!Still, there are bargains to be had. I buy things from Ebay periodically. The trick is, you’ve got to buy from sellers whom you’ve bought from before, or someone you know personally has bought from. Ebay is a great idea, and it’s also a great big thieves market. The company behind it supports their sellers, from whom they get a percentage. They have no interest in their honesty. Ebay will never support you, or come to your aid, or do anything but make it as difficult as possible for you to claim your rights.

Paypal is also a kind of criminal enterprise, and they’re already in trouble in some countries. That’s another story in itself, but if you possibly can, you’re way ahead of the game by paying with a credit card.

The day will come when at least some the bosses behind Ebay will be in prison. No doubt they know they’re playing with fire. But for the time being they’re just cashing in big-time and hoping for the best. Buyer beware indeed!

Still, there are bargains to be had.

]]> By: zeppelinhttp://chris.pirillo.com/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-455205 zeppelin Wed, 04 Jul 2007 05:06:42 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/07/02/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/#comment-455205 I think the feedback system is broken as well. Dishonest sellers withhold their feedback until you give feedback. That way if you give them negative feedback they can retaliate with negative feedback to you even if you did nothing wrong. I recently got riped off on shipping (was charge for air, it went ground), but I can not leave feedback about that unless I want to risk a red mark on my account. Very lame. I think the feedback system is broken as well. Dishonest sellers withhold their feedback until you give feedback. That way if you give them negative feedback they can retaliate with negative feedback to you even if you did nothing wrong. I recently got riped off on shipping (was charge for air, it went ground), but I can not leave feedback about that unless I want to risk a red mark on my account. Very lame.

]]> By: Spear Networkshttp://chris.pirillo.com/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-455092 Spear Networks Wed, 04 Jul 2007 03:20:20 +0000 http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/07/02/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/#comment-455092 [...] Here is a case to prove the point. I was out researching and came across an article here, http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/07/02/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/. Travis is really peeved at PayPal when he should be peeved at eBay as well. As eBay is the parent and the auction was ran on their site, I believe that they owe Travis a full refund if he has proof of all the mess. [...] [...] Here is a case to prove the point. I was out researching and came across an article here, http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/07/02/a-victim-of-ebay-fraud/. Travis is really peeved at PayPal when he should be peeved at eBay as well. As eBay is the parent and the auction was ran on their site, I believe that they owe Travis a full refund if he has proof of all the mess. [...]

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