Do You Believe Gun Control is an Effective way to Prevent Crime?

Recently, there was a discussion raised on Geeks as to whether gun control will help prevent crimes like homicide. Anytime this subject is brought up, tempers tend to flare and passions run high. You will find very few people who don’t care about the issue one way or the other. They are either vehemently for or against gun control.

with idiots like this guy http://dionysus-atheist.blogsp… yes I do – dionysus

No. Much the same as "Spoon Control" would not keep Rosie O’Donnell from being fat. Switzerland has a much lower gun-crime/homicide rate than the US and in Switzerland the laws almost require adults to own guns. Where would you rather be a violent offender: Canada (no guns) or Switzerland (everyone armed)? – Mark VandenBerg

I thought canada has guns… odd. – alphaxion

Canada has a ban on handguns and many rifled long guns. Hunting rifles and most shot guns are legal but must be registered. – Mark VandenBerg

I’m pretty sure the crux is better education, not gun-, drugs-, sex- or other blanket controlling of "harmful substances, tools, and activities." – Vincent van Wylick

I don’t believe that is an effective way to stop the violence. There are still knives, pots and pans, bats, and many other weapons that are used to kill. My son was killed by a vehicle so what do we do, stop people from driving. I am part of the homicide survivors group and I have heard a lot of strange ways that people die. The only thing that will stop it is if we give a harsher punishment to those who do crime but even then they may slip through the cracks. – Gaje Master

The ban of guns in Canada didn’t stop the Hell’s Angels up there from getting into some pretty bad shoot ups with a rival gang some years ago. – Alex Scoble CISSP

I find it fascinating that the question is posed as a matter of faith instead of as a request for evidence. – glen campbell

speaking to my boss (canadian) he said that handguns are still sold, but heavily controlled. Plenty get smuggled in from the US tho. However, the overwealming majority fo guns in canada are hunting guns, of no use if you wish to do drive bys etc. – alphaxion

do you believe heroin control is a good way of preventing crime and homicide? – Gregory Lent

I fully believe all of the so called "illegal" drugs should be legalised, regulated and taxed. The tax money from them should only ever go into support structures to help those who have a problem with said drugs. They need care, not incarceration. – alphaxion

I live in a conceal and carry state. A lot of people stay on their best behavior because of this, I think. I know I do. Knowing that someone may have a gun hidden keeps the temper down to a minimum. – Stephan Miller

It’s not yes or no. If you have a society with very few guns and violence, then adding more guns (even for law-abiding citizens) will increase the harm that comes from them. But if you have lots of crime and guns already, like we do, then supporting lawful carry laws will likely DECREASE crime because you reduce the number of low-risk targets and make criminals think. As with most things, it just depends on the other variables–in this case the amount of violence and guns that already exists in the society. – Daniel Miessler

Well said, Daniel. It’s not an either-or situation. – steplow = Steve Lowe

In my case, yes. Anyone wishes to break in my house with the intent to do homocide will be prevented from doing so. – Mike the Lewis

I’ve had to kill someone to prevent them from doing harm to my family in the midst of a break-in .. and I would gladly do it again – JohnBfromMemphis

I think it would be more accurate to say "an effective way of *decreasing the incidence* of crime and homicide." Certainly it won’t prevent it entirely, but that’s just semantics. – Victor Ganata

Nope. – Cathy Brooks

Nope. It only controls law-abiding citizens. – Shaine Mata

What’s your opinion? Do you believe having the government control guns would lower the crime rates?

43 thoughts on “Do You Believe Gun Control is an Effective way to Prevent Crime?”

  1. In my opinion, the very idea to have guns is just a remnant from the tribal era. As far as I have read, only people with tribal instincts feel better having weapons with them. It is not a question of whether gun control is an effective way to prevent crime or not. We know the answer for it. Rather, the question should be whether we need to stay as a tribal society or move towards a progressive civilized society. The choice is ours to make.

  2. When there is a dip in the local market sales, the gun makers may look out for other means to sustain their business. Who knows, they may make online deals with those terrorists and negative-thinking radicals to hit their quarterly sales. You never know.. we are capitalists 🙂

  3. No. A psychological exam before to make sure you’re not giving a gun to a lunatic is better than leaving your citizens without self-defense, specially if the state itself cannot reliably defend its citizens.

  4. Well Chris Rock once said We Don´t need Gun Control We need Bullet Control cos every bullet must cost 5000$ and we have no more innocent bystander!!!

  5. IF YOU OUTLAW GUNS, ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE GUNS.
    OUTLAWS NEVER REGISTER A FIREARM, ONLY LAW ABIDING CITIZENS.
    IF YOU LOOK AT THE EXPERIENCE OF BRITAIN AND AUSTRALIA, IT IS CLEAR THAT VIOLENT CRIME RISES WHEN GUNS ARE OUTLAWED.

  6. I think allowing people to buy guns for there homes have made them more secure than without. Person mentioned Canada had some issues with Hell’s Angels causing trouble and had some big shootouts. There are still patches of places in the UK that officers of the law don’t carry a side arm with them. They rely on emergency response teams to handle the situation but what does the officer do in the mean time? You can’t expect someone breaking the law to follow the law, only law abiding citizens follow them. Now there are some people who would rather not carry a gun for various reasons.

    Those reasons are to be respected and if they don’t feel comfortable about it I won’t blame them. My better half doesn’t like guns all that much, isn’t that she won’t get near one just don’t feel comfortable dealing with one on her own. We got her a Taser side arm which is easier to use, doesn’t kill the assailant but will neutralize them for a period of time. Does give you that confidence that your love one is protected, and it’s not placed in the same boat with guns.

  7. As one who grew up in Switzerland and later lived in Canada (and traveled much in the US), I must address the remark about the Swiss having guns. I did research in my college years about the difference between US and Switzerland. The consensus was that the Swiss are a much more conservative society and are controlled by societal rules, whereas the Americans had a frontier mentality that led them to resort to violence.

    So, it’s not so much the availability of guns, as it is the culture. For the US to reduce crime, there needs to be a total rearranging of the mindset.

  8. What i’m about to say is how I see it prob not how it is but is how I see it and how many people see it.

    I live in Australia and I think the law is, is that you can’t have a gun unless you live on a farm or you do it for fun. I’m pretty sure your not allowed hand guns (but I could be wrong)

    Like I know that we are not allowed to have a knife with us unless we have a reason ETC fishing, we aren’t even allowed a knife to cut our lunch up and if your under 18 we aren’t allowed allowed to buy or have spray paint.

    So looking at America from the outside your gun laws are a bit stupid. There is NO reason you should have a hand gun. They were and are designed for shooting people. When you start bring up that you are using it for protection well that’s how people get shot.

    I think there should be a total ban on hand guns. Shot Guns you should have a reason, aka hunting well if your hunting you should have a hunting license so too get your gun license you should need to have your hunting license first. Things like that.

    I think it is so stupid too have a hand gun in your glove box. Someone comes running at you with a knife or a gun and you go to get your gun out of your glove box what do you think they are going too do, Wait? no they are going to stab you or shoot you.

    Like I said I’m not sure what the gun law in aus is, I know it isn’t a big problem. Some people have handguns so you must be able to get a gun I dunno. But that’s my view point.

  9. I agree with Daniel. Also, it’s interesting that people look at Canada as an example for gun control. Oakland’s Sen. Perata is big on gun control and helped usher in a statewide ban on assault weapons and generic semi-automatics. Last Dec he was carjacked in Oakland at gunpoint. Gun control is in theory supposed to prevent fatal shootings or accidental death – crime is a slightly different beast.

  10. You said it right , Shaine Mata.
    Who’s gonna tell the bad guys that they can’t use guns? Are they gonna abide by the law? Not!

  11. Have a look at the Australian experience.
    Mucho gusto from politicians and POLICE to control guns, lots banned and seized all as a result of ONE kook who should have been reported and locked up YEARS before he finally went on a killing spree.
    Has it made any difference?
    Not that we’ve noticed, just that the ‘less than law abiding’ still have and USE weapons including guns and the millions of good little sheep handed in the millions of weapons they had no intent of using in a criminal manner.
    An interesting statistic is the remarkable INCREASE in home invasions since the honest citizens handed in their guns! Not surprising when the criminal no longer has to take a risk on his health & well being.
    And don’t believe the BS spread by the various police forces that they are there to protect you – with a BEST case response of 18 minutes in a metropolitan area then you’re either dead, dying or raped well before the flatfoots will get anywhere near you in the unlikely event that they will even know it is happening (or has happened).

  12. A great case study on this is Kennesaw Georgia. As a suburb of Atlanta, they use to have a crime rate that matched Atlanta. In 1982 they passed a law requiring all households to own at least one firearm. You read that right, they required you to own one. The crime rate then dropped 89% and has stayed there. You figure it out. Here’s the wikipedia entry. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennesaw

  13. If you outlaw guns the outlaws will STILL HAVE THE GUNS! Then the normal American wouldn’t be able to protect themselves! Think about what would happen if we were invaded? All the grannys would pull guns out of their purses so to speak and shoot.

  14. Personally I think that we shuld use the death penalty a lot more than we do currently. I think that would be one way of driving down homicide rates. Also, a gun control policy would also apply for those that would use one in self-defense. They would get punished for defending themselves.

  15. Well, in most of EU, you can’t really get a gun that easily (exept Finland and Switzerland, where a lot of people have guns + in finland there are a lot of problems with guns, lately). And our crime rates are way lower than the ones in the US. Seriously, It would help. Here, In Estonia, It is almost impossible to get a gun. And not a lot of people die from firearms.

  16. Gun Control legislation is a proven non-worker. Firearms are nothing more than tools. The focus should be on the criminal and his actions, not what tool he uses.

    I suggest everyone goto http://www.gunfacts.info/ and read the pdf that you can find there. You might be surprised at some of the things you learn.

  17. No. If we have gun control only criminals would have guns. I’ve never shot anyone but, over 38 years ago while delivering pizzas while I was a college student I accidentally drove into a riot. The road was blocked and they were beating on the delivery truck with clubs trying to get to me. If I hadn’t pulled my gun out and scared them away I probably wouldn’t be here today.

  18. Speed Limit signs and imagration laws don’t work! What do they thing, all the gangbangers are going to find religion and turn in there Guns? GET REAL!

  19. DellMan94 – I’m sure glad you’re not the man of my house. If you were the man of my house and a murderer broke in, you’d just cower in a corner and hope the police arrive before you got killed. Or if you grabbed some sac and actually tried to defend you family and home you’d try to use a “liberal approved” weapon (knife, bat, kung fu, etc.) which would certainly mean your death since the murderer is much more adept at fighting and/or is carrying a gun of his own.

    Everyone has the right to defend themselves and guess what, the police can’t be everywhere at once. So the only real option for a small lady like me is a gun. If you would rather die than defend yourself with a gun because you think guns are evil no matter how they’re used, you certainly have that right. But don’t impose your idiocy on me and make me a victim.

  20. I don’t believe that gun control alone will reduce crime. I think the amount of hate, that causes the crime needs to be controlled. If there are no guns around, people will just find another weapon to use. So really i think we need to help those that have negative thoughts and feelings, and create positive ones.

  21. I live in the Chicago suburbs. Chicago has the highest homicide rate in the ENTIRE U.S. Oh, Chicago has a gun control ordinance. The problem is ENFORCEMENT. It’s EXTREMELY easy to secure a gun in Chicago. Oh, Illinois is one of 2 states that doesn’t allow Concealed Carry of a hand gun. Yet, Chicago leads the nation in homicides. Oh, there were 150 MORE people killed in Chicago than in Iraq this year. YAH, guntrol works! BWA HA HA HA HA!

  22. Take a look at our nation’s capitol for a real life example of “gun control” and what an abysmal failure it is.
    Washington, D.C has, for the past 30+ years, had the strictest “gun control” laws in the nation but it has done absolutely nothing to prevent or decrease crime or gun violence.
    On the other hand, it has prevented its law-abiding citizenry from protecting themselves from the perpetrators of such crime and violence.
    Is that what we want?

  23. I don’t believe gun control will really help prevent crimes. A gun is just one of the many weapons available, and crimes cans still be committed without any weapons at all.

  24. I think more strict gun control is necessary in some states. A good background check and medical check for mental issues should be required. I have a gun and don’t think taking guns away with a ban is the answer. Instead having more control on who you give them to making sure that law abiding citizens with stable mental health can access them is a much better way of doing things.

  25. I read in the Wall Street Journal that a federal judge ordered some Gitmo prisoners to be released into the US since no other country would take them.

    My grandfather told my mother that she would live in the age of educated fools. Now I do.

    Since our judiciary is now less interested in protecting my kids than those who would shoot my kids, I am going be sure my kids can shoot back.

    Last week, I bought a rifle, shotgun, 9mm to protect my family and a BBgun for my son.

    I was never interested in owning guns until this last election.

  26. I think gun control is something that needs to be done, but I don’t think that completely eliminating guns, or near eliminating them is the answer. There just needs to be strict enforcement and crackdown.

  27. The ammount of crime would not decrease as not all crimes commited have a fire arem involved.

    Also, making a law to prenvent people from having / using a gun is just the same as illegalizing drugs, people whom abide by the law will not have or use them. the ammount of crimes they commit would not change either as they don’t commit crimes.

    People that don’t abide by the law (ie. people that commit crimes.) would continue to have guns because the lack of legality would not be an issue to them and likely would cause an increase as they would be reassured that their desired victim would very likely be un-armed and unable to protect themselves.

  28. More new Gun control laws can achieve nothing but make criminals out of law abiding citizens that want to hunt, target shoot or protect themselves in their own homes. The government does not have the means to enforce the laws they have now. Cases in point . Look at the rise in crime rates of Canada and Australia after the enactment of strong firearm laws and firearm banning. In the U.S. the crime rate dropped radically in states that passed a right to carry law.

  29. Why I carry a gun

    I don’t carry a gun to kill people.
    I carry a gun to keep from being killed.

    I don’t carry a gun to scare people.
    I carry a gun because sometimes this world can be a scary place.

    I don’t carry a gun because I’m paranoid.
    I carry a gun because there are real threats in the world.

    I don’t carry a gun because I’m evil.
    I carry a gun because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the world.

    I don’t carry a gun because I hate the government.
    I carry a gun because I understand the limitations of government.

    I don’t carry a gun because I’m angry.
    I carry a gun so that I don’t have to spend the rest of my life hating myself for failing to be prepared.

    I don’t carry a gun because I want to shoot someone.
    I carry a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed, and not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon.

    I don’t carry a gun because I’m a cowboy.
    I carry a gun because, when I die and go to heaven, I want to be a cowboy.

    I don’t carry a gun to make me feel like a man.
    I carry a gun because men know how to take care of themselves and the ones they love.

    I don’t carry a gun because I feel inadequate.
    I carry a gun because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am inadequate.

    I don’t carry a gun because I love it.
    I carry a gun because I love life and the people who make it meaningful to me.

    Police Protection is an oxymoron. Free citizens must protect themselves.
    Police do not protect you from crime, they usually just investigate the crime after it happens and then call someone in to clean up the mess.

    Personally, I carry a gun because I’m too young to die and too old to take an ass whoopin’.

  30. Nope. Its not guns that kill people, people kill people, guns cant do any harm without people helping them, which is why blaming handguns for violence is ridiculous. If someone really wants to hurt people or like to create violence there are alternate ways, and its a fact that knives and clubs are used in violence more than four times than guns. The government thinks that if all citizens do have handguns that the percentage of deaths will increase. The reason that citizens need handguns is for protection, and ninety percent of all uses of guns in self-defence do not actually involve firing the weapon. When an assailant sees or even hears the gun they will usually be gone before you can point the gun, but if not, it is not likely that they would be willing to risk their life to get your wallet or television or whatever they are after, especially if they don’t have their gun or weapon out, ready to use. The government seems to think that we are all trigger happy, but even for self-protection people will hold off pulling the trigger until the very last moment, but ninety percent of the time that moment never comes. Technically, the more guns that there are, the less crime there will be. Crime Statistics of Canada prove that there is an increase in the numbers of victims because with the gun law in affect people are unarmed and unable to defend themselves. If there wasn’t a gun control law then just knowing that someone may have a gun hidden would help keep the crime rate down. Currently the government deems self-protection to be an insufficient reason for owning a handgun. If we are not allowed to carry a handgun then how else do they propose we effectively protect ourselves? It’s not like we are going to be always carrying a long gun with us where ever we go, and if someone were to be in need of protection against an assailant, and the victim had a knife or a weapon along that line, against an assailant with a gun, it is more likely that the victim would end up injured than any harm being done to the assailant. The gun control law does not keep criminals from having guns and it doesn’t help to reduce crime. The gun laws only affect people that abide by the law. Assailants with guns could not care less that there is a gun control law that they are breaking, it’s not like that would be the only law they would end up breaking, and probably not the worst law either. 1. The registration of all handguns has been required by federal law since 1934, and since 1968 permits to carry them have been restricted to a few specific circumstances, examples include use in target practice or competition, protection in extreme cases where police protection isn’t adequate and in certain jobs such as transporting large amounts of cash or other valuables. This law has not prevented a single gun crime, but what is has done instead is created an expensive and useless gun registry system that has cost Canadian taxpayers billions of dollars. We think that everyone agrees that violence is awful and it is out of control, but by having gun control laws it is just making it harder for everyone to protect themselves.

  31. If you think that if all guns are banned everyone would be all kissing and hugging on some dumb hippy built BRIDGE OF FREINDSHIP then your spedning too much time living in stupidland smoking wacky weed from your hooka

  32. This was actually very boring, because it didn’t stand nothing about onion, and i love onion, onion is my passion. God demn!
    (BTW, next time write about onion)

  33. Only a total idiot would belive that a total ban on guns would reduce crime and the liberals are idiots totaly

  34. For all the lazy thinkers who hope to solve human behavioral problems by banning the inanimate objects they happen to use, whether it be guns, knives, alcohol, drugs etc… Lets see where the banning of objects gets us.

    To Krish who says “the question should be whether we need to stay as a tribal society or move towards a progressive civilized society”, well you’re welcome to wake up to reality at any time, your wishful, armchair, lazy thinking does nothing whatsoever to solve the problems of crime, and if you haven’t noticed already, people are moving towards a more progressive society constantly, and that’s why 99% of gun owners don’t end up killing people with them.

    I really like how nobody ever brings up the case of the great states of Vermont and New Hampshire, which essentially have no gun control at all, and yet happen to have the least crime in the country

    I’ll tell you exactly why theres a high rate of comparative crime in the United States, and it’s all because of the governments control (or prohibition) of another inanimate substance. Of course i speak of the total failure and waste of money we call the war on drugs, and as a result we get more crimes from gang violence, drug trafficking and public corruption. So instead of violating yet another constitutional right (individual right to bear arms, ruled by DC vs Heller), how about we give back the ones taken away. Although Europe was laws against drugs, they are not criminalized or as severe as they are in US, so the crime rate is lower.

    There are countless factors that cause crime in a country, in the US the war on drugs is most certainly the cause of most of our crime and violations of rights.

    The national academy of sciences issued a 328 page paper on the effectiveness of gun control, in which it concluded that over decades of US gun control legislation, it could not find a single regulation that reduced violent crime, suicides or accidents. As Australia has proven, gun control is a slippery slope to further control, such as knives and other things that could be used as weapons. Lets wander off into the land of imagination for a moment, lets just pretend that all of your regulation and taking away of rights does reduce crime rates and makes us safer… No thanks, I will take my freedom and you can have your safety under your totalitarian government with all your regulations. Oh wait now we are back to reality, and you end up with neither liberty nor safety. Live free or die.

    1. The Supreme Court also stated that the 2nd Amendment is not an absolute right, nor does it extend to the individual. Gun control does not mean a loss or revokation of any rights. A registered gun is still an owned one.

  35. Cun controll will never work because it only takes guns from the good guys.Someone that will kill another person will not worry about a minor gun law. Guns are tools nothing more or less. Guns in the hands of a good person dose not cause crime to increase and at times stop crimes in progress. Guns in the hands of a bad person is what causes gun crime and since criminals dont follow the major laws of the land you have to be really stupid to think they will obey a lesser law as gun controll laws. Gun controll only takes guns from the good guys because they will obey the law, therefore they cant discorage or stop crimes aginst them or others therefore crime rates go up anywhere it is tried.All gun controll laws do is restrict axcess to guns to the law-abiding citizen. Gun regerstration has led to people having their guns taken away, England,Irland,Alstralia,have all taken guns from the law abiding citizen after mandatory regesteration and the crime rate has skyrocked. Haynes vs US stated it is unconstitutional to require a criminal to regester a gun or punish him for not regestering his gun. The gun controll people still push for regesteration,why could that be, it would make it easier to confiscate guns because they would have a list.Of course no criminals guns would be on the list only the people that followed the law would lose their guns making it easier and safer for the criminal to carry on with his trade.
    The only true gun controll is strict enforcment of gun laws on the criminals
    1 Mandatory 5 years for possession of a gun
    2 Any crime comitted with a gun robbery,rape,assult,ect would be 25 years for the gun being present+ the punishment for the robbery ect.
    3 Second offence of #2 would be a life sentence.
    4 No plea bargening gun crimes all are mantory

    Pass these laws and gun crimes will go down, but other crimes will still happen because you dont get rid of the bad guys you just take that tool away from them, but you let the good guys keep their guns and they can protect themselves and others.

    Bottom line is gun control laws other then strict punishment for crime commited with a gun do nothing but make crime rates grow. It has happened every place it has been tried.

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