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Vista’s UI is Better Than This!?

Watch and drool. By the way, you can try this on your own PC right now! I’m not yet sure how to unlock every one of these visual effects, but damn - XGL is impressive:

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Any ideas on the specs of the machine this was running on? I assume it was a monster to have that much video running with zero lag whilst switching screens and whatnot.

That’s hot s*** - I wonder how much juice that computer required for that.

Chris: It’s a good thing you had a week at sea before watching this. It has enough, stretch, squash, bounce, wiggle, jiggle, transparency, and pop to to have me reaching for the Dramamine.

OMG, whatever that is I want it…now! Chris is right, this is what Vista should be accomplishing right now. Maybe they’ll get to this point in another ten years with “Blackcomb.” Vista RC1 is way too “heavy” for me, and I agree with Chris, the current Vista UI “consistancy” is embarrasing for Microsoft.

Seriously though, is that a Linux distro? What is it???

Wow. That’s purty. What is it? ;-)

Imagine you’d have to have a pretty beefy system and 3D card to be able to run that with all the bells and whistles.

I don’t know if it’s “better” than Vista’s UI (I haven’t used Vista, myself), but it’s definitely “cooler”. :-)

(Though I must admit that I began to feel slightly nauseous by the time the video ended, and I’m not joking about that.)

Ryan Sawyer, that’s Novel’s Linux with xgl (or so I’ve read).

The guys over at DL.TV did a segment on this as well. I forgot the specs of the machine but it isnt as bad as you would think. Go Linux!!

I’ve been using SuSE10.1 for sometime now. It’s cool, very cool in fact, but it’s Linux and will require some patience with a small learning curve, though.
;o)

http://download.opensuse.org/

Understand that you will be needing to install codecs and other little goodies being this is Open SuSE.

for the ones who asked, it’s a xgl demo with a gnome desktop, it runs on linux only. I don’t know the distrib the guy used but any should do the job, and no it’s not that CPU intensive (remember..linux).

The Kororaa Project http://kororaa.org/ had a live cd that had the Nvidia drivers included that had all this in it. It was amazing. They were forced to remove the distro though because of the GPL license.

They do have very good instructions on how to set this up in their forums. I showed this to some people at work and the envy meter went to 11.

It looks like it’s Zenwalk linux distro running Xgl/Compiz, which is the 3D desktop rendering engine.

A search on youtube for Xgl or compiz should bring up a few more similar demos.

For Linux amateurs, I’d recommend going with Ubuntu and follow the setup instructions here: http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=916

Eh, I cannot see the Flash.

This is either XGL or AIGLX with Compiz running over it and (in this video) KDE for the window manager, all under Linux. It runs well even on modest hardware. To install it you’ll need to have 3D acceleration working (via either Nvidia or ATI’s binary drivers). Then you need to install either XGL or AIGLX (both lend 3d acceleration to X, the first by replacing the X server, the second by adding extensions to the existing X server). Finally, you’ll need to install Compiz and start it after logging in to your session.

If you are running Ubuntu, search the Ubuntu forums for several very easy to follow how-to’s on getting this all up and running. I tripple boot XP, Vista, and Ubuntu, and while I am liking Vista more and more, I still boot into Ubuntu when I want to listen to music, watch videos, browse, and squeeze-jiggle my desktop all at the same time.

The Most Ridiculous Desktop You’ve Ever Seen…

So… what happens when you take some of the best of the Windows operating system and combine it with the some of the best of the Apple operating system? You get Xgl. Novell is contributing to the new Xgl graphic…

I saw a demo video of this environment (or an extremely similar one) on a touchscreen display and it really shined there. Then again, I’m a Tablet PC guy and therefore easily impressed. ;) Microsoft would do well with Fiji or Vienna to head down this path…

why subtitles in the movie that is played in this demo are in Polish language?

Hardware Requirements for XGL?…

So I’m watching this video of XGL in action over at Chris Pirillo’s blog. I know I’ve seen this video floating around for a while, but I never really bothered to watch it until last night.
Damn!
That’s some good ****. And from…

nwoolls, I think that’s Gnome, not KDE (from the top menu bar and the icon set, both defaults for Gnome), but you’re right about everything else. My tri-boot Mandriva/XP/98 (yes,98) machine will do most of that in linux. It’s an Athlon XP 2700 with 1 gig of RAM, NVidia chipset and FX5200 video.

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Why is there a Mac OS X icon for the Unix Terminal access on the dock like thing at the bottom. :\

Just like to point out for you fans of the Aero Glass look in Vista, you can have that with what you saw above. Just point and click!

nibelune, skyhack: That is clearly not Gnome :) If you look closely at the file browser, in the upper right corner is the KDE gear: http://www.kde.org/media/images/kde_gear_64.png also, the clock is the default KDE clock: http://www.kde.org/screenshots/images/3.5/04-konqueror-multipurpose.png just moved to the top.

These sorts of effects also do work with Gnome though, e.g.:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_FltuC5588

Anyway, I think this post illustrates quite nicely how advanced Linux has gotten recently… oh and did I mention that its available right now and its free? :)

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[...] Although Aero Glass is nice, this UI looks much more impressive. Microsoft demoed Flip 3D at PDC03 and it will be available early 2007, so catching up with this should take Microsoft no more than 3 years, right? ;) Filed under: Windows Vista [...]

Damon wrote: “That’s hot s*** - I wonder how much juice that computer required for that.”

Surprisingly little; the primary requirement is a video card from this list:
http://en.opensuse.org/Xgl#Hardware_Advisory
see also:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Video_Card_Support_Under_XGL

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[...] Chris Pirillo links to this video of what is apparently a Linux distro with KDE or Gnome (I have no clue - haven’t played with Linux in years, though I need to now obviously). Damn that’s pretty. [...]

What Windows users need is a Linux OS that will run all those lovely free Windows programs out there that we are familiar with, and a Mac OS that will run on the same CPU as Linux & Windows.
Wishful thinking? Well I can dream can’t I.

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[...] Everybody went ga-ga over the video I linked to the other day - showing XGL running on KDE in some random flavor of Linux. Some of you suffered from motion sickness after watching the entire thing, but I don’t think typical usage would require or necessitate that much desktop movement in such a small amount of time. [...]

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Well, I can only say this is amazing. To achieve such performance on a PC/WINXP platform (assuming such interface exists already for windows).. there must be highend hardware to support all those realtime 3D and no timelag between video switching.. i can say great job for a Linux system. I wonder if the final release of Vista will be as much ??

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[...] Watch this mind-boggling video to see what a genuinely innovative and powerful user interface, XGL under Linux, can do. Plus, it runs just fine on a regular video card with no high-powerful computer needed. [...]

[...] Windows Vista Build rc1 Here’s a screenshot of Windows Vista rc1 running on my Dell D620. Everything is working very well despite a few bugs. IE7 continues to give me some minor fits I cannot explain: 1. I cannot change my homepage and make it stick. 2. I cannot add URL’s to the trusted sites zone or the intranet zone. On other fronts: 1. I have to launch the sidebar manually - although some think this is a good thing. 2. Expanding my monitor still is with its problems  - the behavior isn’t consistent. On the up side: 1. Performance is still very fast. Much faster than the previous versions. 2. The more I get used to the interface, I find I am doing every day tasks quicker than I did in Windows XP. 3. More and more apps are beginning to run smoothly on Vista. However, RSS Bandit wont even install which is a huge bummer. With or without Glass enabled. And Dell needs to get on the ball and release some beta drivers already! Please? Boot up is still taking a bit longer (+ 60 seconds) than I would like as well. I think this is related to booting at work only and having to sit through the GPO’s getting pushed down. At home it boots up much quicker (under 30 seconds). Also interesting to see is Chris Pirillo’s post and Charlie’s challenge to Vista’s Aero Glass … check out the video. Published Monday, September 11, 2006 5:27 PM by ntpro Filed Under: Vista [...]

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It’s fairly annoying to see so many people completely ignorant of what linux has to offer yet they go on at how awesome Vista is and how pretty and awesome and so on OS X is…. Just give up, they are the things of the past, with KDE4 coming nearer and Gnome 3 in planning stages, and AIGLX/XGL/Compiz doing the 3d work, you just can’t go wrong with linux.

Also, I can run XGL/Compiz on an old 6 years old computer: 1.5ghz 256mbram and geforce fx 5200 with 128mbvram and it works as smooth as it is in this video.

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XGL will be phased out in favour of AIGLX according to the Xorg guys. AIGLX has the better driver support (especially once Nvidia release their AIGLX-compatible drivers) and it’s faster. The effects you see are from the Compiz window manager, which runs on either XGL or AIGLX.

For what it’s worth, I’m able to run AIGLX + Compiz (with all the effects you see in the video and more) on a Pentium 4 2.5Ghz system with an integrated Intel 915 8MB video card.

I Ran XGL on my old PC, and it ran great!!

specs:
2.0Ghz AMD Athlon XP
384Mb of Ram
64Mb geForce MX 4000 at 1280×1024

[...] Today I was but a viewer of this most interesting article and demonstration of XGL. Confused I am, though! Such imagery, it is but flashy and eye catching. But I see not any benefits! [...]

[...] Check out this video of XGL in action, care of Chris Pirillo. [...]

Ok, so I assume that’s XGL and Compiz? Or is it some other window manager? Are you using cgwd? Also - how did you get that sweet widget-toolbar-osx-thingy?

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whats the title of that video w/ polish subtitle? its been like a decade since ive last seen that movie and i kinda miss it..

im saving to buy intel core duo w/ high end graphics card just for aero and vista to run smoothly and now im confused. ive never really thought that such effect could be achived w/o spending a lot. especially the vid thing..

hmmm… now im thinkin building a linux machine…. does more.. cost less :)

could anyone give the full spec of that machine

I’d rather have a non 3d interface that is a non resource hog. Pretty though.

Um, nice rip-offs of Apple’s dock, window minimize and restore, app switching, and Expose features in Mac OS X. Seriously, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Oh, and they even snagged some of the app icons. A flashy GUI is nice and all, but any linux distro is no where near as capable as Mac OS X (which also has a flash GUI) for content authoring, developing, scientific computing, business apps, or web ****, which I can do all at the same time on the same machine. Oh, and Apple’s hardware does run Linux and Windows too, so Tony Trenton’s desire to have all on the same CPU has been granted by Apple….

[...] Vista’s UI is Better Than This? [...]

Well i was not able to stop myself from posting this comment because there are too many people who are thinking that all these effects require powerful CPU and GPU, well i have tried XGL on my machine (AMD Athlon 64 2800+ 512 MB ram Nvidia Geforce 4000 mx) which is not*that* powerful but still it worked beautifully and i never experienced any sluggishness you expect while using such eye candy on a cheap machine however there few issues relating to overlay as many video related application may not work properly (tvtime) and also the fact that XGL does not work on ATI (ppl having ATI’s graphics card can use AIGLX) but hopefully the team developing XGL will address such issues sooner rather later .
But there is a BIG problem i see in XGL is the fact that there are too many alternatives and the community does not make practical decision quickly leading to wasting precious resources.
And as far as Windows Vista is concerned , i am NOT going to buy any new Windows OS anymore and this is not because the price tag but because of the system requirements. Why should i upgrade my PC when it is well capable of producing far better effects on Linux.

all i can say is OMG !! that is truly amazing… rocks… kicks *ss!!
not that it matters but wish distro of linux was that running on? and what were the “specs” on the pc? Good Job! And no worries… I’m with you guys “Linux Man” all tha way!!

-PauSon
http://ArkansasIT.Net
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Yikes. If you think this is so OMG amazing, you need to get yourself over to an Apple store right now and ask for a demo. Be sure to wear something waterproof, because you will surely cream your jeans.

Once again, the Linux community proves that it’s unable to innovate, only steal ideas. You do realise that this is a complete rip off of the Mac OS ? You can most, if not all of this today on any Mac ? I strongly suspect that things like the ‘Exposé’ view and the cascading Dock are covered by software patents too.

It’s time Linux grew up - stopped ripping off other OS’s (first Windows, now the Mac) - and started to offer something new and original. If it can.

[...] Have you seen this ? http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/09/06/…ter-than-this/ Unbelievable ! That is a complete and blatant rip off of the Mac OS. This sort of thing really gets me - first of all Linux GUIs seemed to want to rip off Windows as closely as possible, and now they are trying the same with the Mac. Why can’t they try and create something original for once ? At the very least, this should be illegal under copyright laws. For instance, if I’d created a work of art, and then found that someone else had stolen my ideas and reproduced said artwork, I would be able to prosecute them (eg if it were a book, or a painting). Why should it be any different because the ‘artform’ is a computer interface ? __________________ Edgerunner - the cutting edge [...]

This is just XGL at work…. available on linux for quite a couple of months…. not a resource hog at all……. using it on my budget P4 2.4GHz with 512 and Nvidia MX200 card… runs like a charm…. no steep requirements unlike Vista.

Beauty is it can run on any distro of linux as long as you have the right Nvidia drivers and the GNOME interface…. (sorry KDE guys). Used it on Mandriva and UBUNTU without any hitches…

I have used MacOS X and I see the merits of the interface… but please Mac users, do not flame XGL… The dock is not default in XGL for linux. The above config was probably set-up by this user only. Hence the presence of the dock….. BTW the dock is overated anyway. Don’t forget that MacOsX is also a rip off of FreeBSD kernel….. which plays a far more important role in the OS than just the eye-candy.

Truth is there are two ways of doing things…… one the simple fast and easy way… or the complicated way (aka the M$ way).

XGL proves that having simple stuff does not mean it is crippled.. in fact it shows that many of the technologies are already available now…. and affordable for the masses too. Linux (or rather any POSIX) already had 64bit computing support before windows… also had multiprocessor/multicore suppport before many other OS’s …. all this on a FREE platform…. so… M$ supporters… eat your heart out.

PEACE Brothers and Sisters in LINUX

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To all those wondering how much power this baby requires, I have been running XGL/Compiz smoothly for a couple of months now on a Gforce 2GTS card (I can’t remember how many years old that card is) the only effect I cannot run is rain/water (which is pretty useless anyway).

The demo seems a bit old cause we even got a Vista theme with blurred transparency and halo around the decoration buttons for quite some time now :-)

wow. that’s mind blowing. hopefully the next os x GUI will follow this step.

[...] Windows Vista Build rc1 Here’s a screenshot of Windows Vista rc1 running on my Dell D620. Everything is working very well despite a few bugs. IE7 continues to give me some minor fits I cannot explain: 1. I cannot change my homepage and make it stick. 2. I cannot add URL’s to the trusted sites zone or the intranet zone. On other fronts: 1. I have to launch the sidebar manually - although some think this is a good thing. 2. Expanding my monitor still is with its problems  - the behavior isn’t consistent. On the up side: 1. Performance is still very fast. Much faster than the previous versions. 2. The more I get used to the interface, I find I am doing every day tasks quicker than I did in Windows XP. 3. More and more apps are beginning to run smoothly on Vista. However, RSS Bandit wont even install which is a huge bummer. With or without Glass enabled. And Dell needs to get on the ball and release some beta drivers already! Please? Boot up is still taking a bit longer (+ 60 seconds) than I would like as well. I think this is related to booting at work only and having to sit through the GPO’s getting pushed down. At home it boots up much quicker (under 30 seconds). Also interesting to see is Chris Pirillo’s post and Charlie’s challenge to Vista’s Aero Glass … check out the video. [...]

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To all the apple guys commenting.. will you share with us how much you paid for your mac and OS?

It’s a shame that no-one on Linux would be able to watch this video, seeing as it requires Flash.

All your Mac’s are belong to us.

um, vista ? move on over…

we’ve heard about the eye-candy that is vista today, and seen the innumerable screenshots of the new look microsoft software (including office). and heard about this completely new user experience. which office 2007 delivers, anyway.
one look at …

Completely useless. Question: What does this visual gimmickry add to productivity? Answer: nothing. Many sane people already know this too well, as they immediately switch from, say, the default Windows XP theme to the much more usable barebones Windows 2000/Windows 98 one. Lame Mac OS X won’t even allow that, and you’re stuck with an abomination of a gui.

Conclusion: it is an abomination. ’nuff said.

WOW! This is *very* cool stuff…the rotating desktop is a really awesome idea.

-Stevie D. (lazycomic.blogspot.com/)

Hi, I am using XGL, and have been for several months. I have read several comments here, and I would like to clear some things up that were said in comments:

1) Apple has no part in this.
2) This runs on Linux (Linux is NOT Windows)
3) If Apple uses this, they will take the code, manage to make it unbearable, and then apply it in OSX.
4) XGL requires very little to run. Well, it doesn’t require much. TO be safe, I would say: A supported graphics card, 256MB RAM, and an 800Mhz processor. Ofcourse, Vista (with Aero) won’t run on that machine.

Please everyone, stop pleading how this is Apple, Novell is NOT Apple. This is NOT an Apple OS, and there are many operating systems out there, not just Microsoft Windows, and Apple OSX.

Also, Apple has been ripping off of Windows, Linux, and BeOS for *years*. If OSX is innovation to anyone, please find a better hobby than obsessing about Apple. Its the same users who deny the fact they are wrong for a change.

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Ugh, wow. Put me in the “makes me sick” camp. Why the hell would you pay money for this? How “pretty” do we need our desktops to be?

What a waste of effort.

Microsoft needs to spend their time figuring out how to make their OS secure from spyware and ****, not how to turn a desktop into a rotating cube.

BLAURGHHGH….
yes, thats the sound of a mac user barfing at what pc people consider “a hot ui” hahaha. seriously. Half of it is ripped off OS X, and not even a good job of that. The rest of the stuff is gimmicky to say the least. Pc people make me laugh.

“To all the apple guys commenting.. will you share with us how much you paid for your mac and OS?”

Absolutely. Im still using an old G4 Laptop (2002) which cost 1600. (Yes PC people, my laptop is like $200 more expensive than your Dell but does like $2000 worth of stuff that your PC doesnt.) And the OS, well… it came installed. But if you were to buy it off the shelf… $100

Remember: You get what you pay for. Cheap computer = cheap experience.

I think people are overestimating the “hefty” hardware requirements for Vista.

Sure you can run XGL on a machine with a GeForce2 graphics card, or an 8mb Intel on-board chipset, but can you do half the **** they show in that video without wanting to gouge your eyes out from the pain of all the hardware lag? not entirely.

In all honesty you can run Vista with full glass capabilities on a machine that matches the hardware specs of the machine that demo’d this clip, so I fail to see the discrepancy in everyone’s inflammatory comments.

It’s just a fad to bash on MS for being the leader in a market, so just because your personal bias and tendency to bandwagon to groupthink makes you think you know it all doesn’t mean you’re right or that 90% of the rest of the world doesn’t use Microsoft’s software simply because of the amount of QA work and constant support the company provides to it’s users and corporate customers.

I dare anyone to find and file a bug on a linux application and see what kind of traction you gain on getting it fixed. Most devs usually spend days spanking you over what modifications you’ve made to the OS and what packages you’ve installed, then tend to quickly resolve the bug as “wont fix” when you aren’t using a vanilla installation of a supported distro.

Not everything about linux is all flowers and bunnies in an immaculate field of dreams.

Elegal: your OS X sucks donkey ***. It has an abomination of a gui that seems designed for children aged 4-7. And the worst part of it is that you can’t even turn that nonsense off (at least, in Windows XP, you can).

PS: Gimmickry is spelled that way.

It’s pretty, but how does any of this stuff make computers easier and more intuitive to use? Seems to do precisely the opposite, requiring us to remember even more things.

[...] Awesome video showing off new OS abilities http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/09/06/…ter-than-this/ Ok can someone please tell me what OS this is?! I know I’m a nub. At first I thought it was Windows (as they said Vista n stuff), but then I thought it was a Mac cuz of that annoying icon bar at the bottom and the task bar on top, but then I thought it could be a windows mod theme, then I thought it could be linux? I don’t know. __________________ [...]

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[...] Posted by jamie // Sat, Sep 16, 2006 1:19 PM this has probably been posted here before but i just saw it now - and it is different than another demo posted here - that showed peeling windows.http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/09/06/vistas-ui-is-better-than-this/according to LHblogs:"Larry Osterman (ya, the same Larry Osterman that got bit by the Audio bug) has a great post on why XGL isn’t as useful as Chris Pirillo thinks it is. Well - i was pretty impressed wit