Windows Vista Networking
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One of the many headaches associated with Windows XP is network configuration. Despite seemingly friendly dialog boxes, networking in Windows XP just doesn’t plug-and-play, especially if you’re faced with interfacing between multiple wired or wireless networks on a daily basis. Windows Vista is already demonstrating potential for solving many of the networking woes, with better presentation of information and auto-detection features designed to remove some of the guesswork. To get a better feel for what we can expect from the Windows Vista networking experience, Chris recently chatted with a PM from the networking team about what’s currently in the Vista beta, what improvements are under the hood and what we might expect to see happen with networking before Vista ships at the end of 2006 and beginning of 2007.


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SDRNews SDR2007-06-26 - vidblogcast
November 30th, 1999
at 12:00am
Formats available: MPEG4 Video (.mp4), MP3 Audio (.mp3), Microsoft Video (.avi), Flash Video (.flv) Windows Vista Networking Logitech Upgrades Your Steering Wheel and Mouse Broadband networking with ZyXEL Steve Largent on CTIA Wirless 2006 Alex Kummerman on the ClicMobile AreYouHere Social Networking Platform Talking With Tom Pohl of iSpot
SDRNews SDR2007-06-26 - vidblogcast
November 30th, 1999
at 12:00am
Formats available: MPEG4 Video (.mp4), MP3 Audio (.mp3), Microsoft Video (.avi), Flash Video (.flv) Windows Vista Networking Logitech Upgrades Your Steering Wheel and Mouse Broadband networking with ZyXEL Steve Largent on CTIA Wirless 2006 Alex Kummerman on the ClicMobile AreYouHere Social Networking Platform Talking With Tom Pohl of iSpot
Cyren Call: Too Little, Too Late - blog
February 10th, 2007
at 5:15pm
like remote desktop support, theoretical limit of storage space in the server, number of users, and what’s making the Windows Home Server work under the hood. Download Standard Podcast Windows Vista and Outlook 2007 Thoughts Windows Vista Networking Robert McLaws on x64 and Longhorn Part 2 Jim Allchin on Windows Vista Beta 2 PC Noise Prevention, Cooling Home Automation Chris and Ponzi Go House Hunting Slow Children at Play Windows Vista in Your Words
Mike M
February 25th, 2007
at 6:15am
Hi,
I’ve found networking in Windows Vista Ultimate a real pain in the ***. I have several machines running Windows XP and have had no problems networking those for years. Now I have Vista Ultimate on one machine and I’m just having problem after problem with network permissions and file and folder sharing. I can’t access shared folders on the vista machine via any of the XP machines, but don’t have a problem access the other machines from the Vista PC. I don’t know how many times I have setup the permissions etc etc on the vista machine and re-setup the network but its just hassle after hassle.
…Well there’s my comments.
Cheers
Mike
Mike M
February 25th, 2007
at 6:15am
Hi,
I’ve found networking in Windows Vista Ultimate a real pain in the ***. I have several machines running Windows XP and have had no problems networking those for years. Now I have Vista Ultimate on one machine and I’m just having problem after problem with network permissions and file and folder sharing. I can’t access shared folders on the vista machine via any of the XP machines, but don’t have a problem access the other machines from the Vista PC. I don’t know how many times I have setup the permissions etc etc on the vista machine and re-setup the network but its just hassle after hassle.
…Well there’s my comments.
Cheers
Mike
robert s
March 21st, 2007
at 2:35pm
Having real problems in networking a brand new Toshiba Quium laptop with Vista with an existing (working) network where all other PC’s are using XP and a netgear router.
The Vispa wireless network search facility finds a random number of local networks within one minute; it will find sometimes 2, 3 or 4 networks, in any order, totally random - the worst thing is that it can’t find our network - the type of encryption doesn’t make any difference.
When calling Toshioba they admitted there were Vista problems and had no date/idea when there woulfd be a fix.
The new laptop is going back, we will revert to XP.
robert s
March 21st, 2007
at 2:35pm
Having real problems in networking a brand new Toshiba Quium laptop with Vista with an existing (working) network where all other PC’s are using XP and a netgear router.
The Vispa wireless network search facility finds a random number of local networks within one minute; it will find sometimes 2, 3 or 4 networks, in any order, totally random - the worst thing is that it can’t find our network - the type of encryption doesn’t make any difference.
When calling Toshioba they admitted there were Vista problems and had no date/idea when there woulfd be a fix.
The new laptop is going back, we will revert to XP.
Ric
March 27th, 2007
at 1:32pm
Can someone please help my family and I ? We bought a new Toshiba laptop with windows vista, and we have been trying like H…ll to get it configured to work with our network and to share files.
My biggest concern is making it work with our Lexmark printer that is sharing on our network.
Please I beg someone to please help…Best Buy will not even talk to me about it.
Thank you
Ric
March 27th, 2007
at 1:32pm
Can someone please help my family and I ? We bought a new Toshiba laptop with windows vista, and we have been trying like H…ll to get it configured to work with our network and to share files.
My biggest concern is making it work with our Lexmark printer that is sharing on our network.
Please I beg someone to please help…Best Buy will not even talk to me about it.
Thank you
Christiantus
June 1st, 2007
at 2:09am
My New laptop running on Vistar can not see other systems in my workgroup including shared resources on the network. Other systems are running on Windows XP and Windows 2000 servers.
What can i do please
Allan
June 19th, 2007
at 4:35am
One thing that you might try is renaming the workgroup of your Vista machine to the name of the workgroup on your Network.
In their wisdom, I discovered that Vista comes with the workgroup set to ‘MSHome’ if memory serves me correct rather than the Windows XP setting of ‘Workgroup’.
I have given up trying to print from my Vista Laptop to our network printer… just can’t be done - what a shambles!
Already hate Vista for its ‘added’ security which I don’t need!
Allan
June 19th, 2007
at 4:35am
One thing that you might try is renaming the workgroup of your Vista machine to the name of the workgroup on your Network.
In their wisdom, I discovered that Vista comes with the workgroup set to ‘MSHome’ if memory serves me correct rather than the Windows XP setting of ‘Workgroup’.
I have given up trying to print from my Vista Laptop to our network printer… just can’t be done - what a shambles!
Already hate Vista for its ‘added’ security which I don’t need!
Jesse Slicer
June 19th, 2007
at 5:01pm
Vista networking is much worse off than XP or 2000. Especially wireless. Almost every wireless network I need to connect to has issues when connecting with Vista. Unpleasant to say the least.
Jesse Slicer
June 19th, 2007
at 5:01pm
Vista networking is much worse off than XP or 2000. Especially wireless. Almost every wireless network I need to connect to has issues when connecting with Vista. Unpleasant to say the least.
Chris
August 23rd, 2007
at 1:55pm
For printer sharing, you need to define the XP’s printer as a “local” printer on Vista (!!). Install drivers (some complain if not attached, but ignore it), add printer, create a new local port, and give the port the XP printer’s network name (”\\XPComputer\CanonPrinter”). This took several days hard googling to figure out, but works now.
File sharing can be done too (eventually!). Use “simple file sharing” on the XP boxes. Look out for “IRPStackSpace” issue on XP machine. Get rid of Windows Firewall (use ZoneAlarm or ??). Check workgroup name on all machines. Can’t remember everything else I did, but it works now!!
Chris
August 23rd, 2007
at 1:55pm
For printer sharing, you need to define the XP’s printer as a “local” printer on Vista (!!). Install drivers (some complain if not attached, but ignore it), add printer, create a new local port, and give the port the XP printer’s network name (”\\XPComputer\CanonPrinter”). This took several days hard googling to figure out, but works now.
File sharing can be done too (eventually!). Use “simple file sharing” on the XP boxes. Look out for “IRPStackSpace” issue on XP machine. Get rid of Windows Firewall (use ZoneAlarm or ??). Check workgroup name on all machines. Can’t remember everything else I did, but it works now!!
Steve
September 29th, 2007
at 5:29am
I too had some issues getting my new notebook with Vista to network with my existing XP network. My notebook came with Vista and Norton Internet Security installed. I could connect to my router and get internet access, but couldn’t link with the network.
Here’s what I found: Check your settings in Norton to see what you have blocked. As a default, Norton will block any inbound and outbound to Windows XP, 2000, etc. Open Norton Internet security, click on the Norton Internet Security Tab. Under ‘Web Browsing’ click on Personal Firewall and select ‘Configure’. Select ‘Advanced Settings’. Under ‘General Rules’ select ‘Configure’. This will show you everything Norton is blocking or allowing. Three’s a note there saying that “A rule that appears above other rules in the list overides those rules”. That’s not a true statement. Norton will block everything. Deselct the boxes that are listed as ‘Blocked’. These are your inbound/outbound settings that allow you to network. The ‘Allow’ boxes just before the ‘Blocked’ boxes will already be checked and there’s a note there saying “(Shared Networks)”. It’s fairly simple to navigate through.
In addition to this you may need to install a Link-Layer Topology Discovery Responder (LLTD) on your XP machines. You can get it from the Microsoft website. This is so your Vista box can see the XP boxes.
Once you’ve accomplished all of that, your networking should go much smoother. I’m not really sure what one of the posters was refering to when he had stated something about simple file sharing and setting the printer as ‘local’. My printer showed up on my network and I connected right to it. The only thing I had to do was install the drivers on my Vista notebook, as Vista didn’t already have them installed. Once I done that I was able to print to my network printer.
I hope this helps ease some of the frustration everyone has been having with their network dilemas.
Babatunde Garuba
November 20th, 2007
at 2:06am
We bought some new computers to our network with windows vista, and we have been trying like H…ll to get it configured to work with our network and to share files.
My biggest concern is making it work with our HP printer that is sharing on our network.
Please I beg someone to please help…
Thank you
Babatunde Garuba
zanzabar19
June 7th, 2008
at 11:10am
The hardest network I have ever tried to set up (still trying) is the network between a mac and a pc. But only to set up a printer. :(. Im very uphappy.