Desktop Linux Summit

aw geezz now I have to add loyalty to the already long *** list i have for reasons why I *heart* you!!!

Even if you don't like linux at least you don't go around complaining about it all of the time.

I live 2 hours from San Diego and my best friend lives IN San Diego and has just become a fan of the CFH show. Maybe we can meet you? :)

Your sincerity to others has always been admirable. Loyalty can never have a price attached. As always, I'm impressed.

I've tried Linux, and i don't know if i'm slow, but it's a little over my head for now. As far as OS X, never tried a Mac. oh well, forget about the nay-sayers and go along with your business. Friendships matter more than what critics have to say.

It has always amazed me how an OS can become a religion for some people. As for me, I need my computer to do certain things with a minimum amount of aggravation. It's supposed to make my life easier, not harder. I guess if you're a computer programmer Linux is a lot of fun. For me it hasn't been. Although it turned my old 200MHz Pentium Pro back into a Ferrari, it's still a Ferrari that sits in the garage most of the time. Now, I'm not a novice when it comes to computers. I remember when you had to punch holes in cards (and God forbid if you bent one of them). Anyway, I just got a new PowerBook G4 with OS X and it blows everything I've ever seen in computing away. I'm not shilling for Apple, but I am starting to think different.

I don't want to brag but i recently purchased Linux Red Hat 8.0, Free BSD, and today i ordered Knoppix, why? i really want to know more in depth at how it ticks. And the other thing i almost purchased a ticket for this same event but i guess it's from a middle man or something cause it's $65.00 bucks to attend, ok now you know Chris i live in the finest city and i hope i see you there, i'm a ******! but still a fan of yours. And to finish this off can you check your mail i forwarded an e mail from a new letter i get here from one local college, check it out!

Linux. Ever tried Suse Linux on DVD? Anyways, … when I lived in Germany there was a special edition of Go! Linux that had an American Redneck version that you could install. Everything was written like a southern redneck would speak. Thought I would share a rare moment with peoples who thanks they R re-tawds.

i agree osX would beat linux hands down as a m$ alternative IF apple would sell it for pcs but so long as they feel the need to push there less than par hardware it aint going to happen

What “ain't gonna happen?” OS X as a good alternative “ain't gonna happen?” Sorry bro, it already is. Apple's in the business of selling hardware. They write great software to entice you to buy their hardware - and last time I checked, great software is what makes computing a beneficial experience. If you don't want to buy their “less than par” PowerBook that blows every other notebook out of the water, don't - but I wouldn't recommend holding your breath for an x86 build of OS X to hit the shelves.

I started my computer experience by programming in FORTRAN using keypunched cards. Learned several different programming languages that are all obsolete. After taking what I felt was a short break from computers and programming, I come back to a world where computers are a necessary appliance just like a stove. The two giants that are responsible for making this so (in my opinion) are Apple and Microsoft. Both platforms are extremely user friendly, and having shows like CFH and TSS make computers even more friendly. Anybody who knows what Chris and friends are doing, should not pass judgement about different “tech stuff” he might lend his tech knowledge.

“I wouldn't recommend holding your breath for an x86 build of OS X to hit the shelves.”
You do know that there *has* been an x86 version of OSX in development in parallel to the regular Apple one ever since code was being developed for OSX, right? It may not be so unthinkable as you think it is…
As for Linux, all this petty BS bickering is just what you would expect from children and it is exactly why if *any* version of Linux is going to topple Windows, it's gonna be Lindows. If I had a choice though…it would be OSX on an x86 platform…

1) I don't feel that you owe me anything close to an explanation.
2) There are a number of reasons why my next computer will be a mac. My main reason is most of the techtv family advocating it so strongly however I was also greatly persuaded by Leo's blog on Jan 29(?) talking about the speech he had recently given.
3) As for Linux Lindows it is just an OS not a religion let the companies battle it out amongst themselves.
4) Thank you Chris for thinking of us.

is it os 10 base on the linux os
so you do like linux

1) OS X isn't Linux. It's Darwin at the root, which is very much like Linux - but not Linux. 2)Notice the keywords “hit the shelves.” Obviously it's good business sense for Apple to be prepared for any eventualities in the processor arena, which is good reason to keep an x86 version on hand. It's simply not in Apple's best interest to release it. Again, I remind you that Apple is in the business of selling HARDWARE. With the exception of the Mac faithful, how many people would buy Apple's hardware if you could install OS X on some inexpensive Wal-Mart PC? You wanna use OS X? Buy a Mac. Period.

Why spend $3000 for a Mac when you can get a faster PC for $1000?

Heck, you can get a 1.8ghz Celeron system with 256MB of RAM from Dell for $380 (including shipping but no monitor).
A system like that is perfect for most people. All they do is browse the web and use the occasional app like Word.
Mac OS X might be nice, but it isn't sufficiently nice to warrant using it over Microsoft, unless you are one of those who dislikes Microsoft just cuz they are Microsoft.
Certainly Linux isn't for everyone. The average user wouldn't be able to get past most Linux installs let alone be able to do anything with it. Linux has a bit of a ways to go before you could compare it's user friendliness to Win XP. Which isn't to say that Linux doesn't have it's advantages, just not for the average desktop user.
If Apple does decide to port OS X to the x86 hardware, then Microsoft will probably change their tune about who is their biggest competitor on the desktop. Until that day, OS X just isn't worth any of my limited bandwidth.
Besides, I'm all about games. :) Oh and Exchange…I love Exchange. But in some circles that statement will get you committed.

Ultimately, in modern computers it comes down to interface.
WinXP: modern interface, well designed, gets an A.
OS-X: modern interface, quite well designed, gets an A, maybe an A+.
Linux: has a great number of interfaces, many quite good, some suck, none of which (in my estimation) quite approaches the “easy breezy usability” of a WinXP or OS-X.
And, despite what Mike thinks, Apple is not in the business of selling hardware. They are in the business of making money. If the winds of change suddenly shift and Apple finds it's biggest revenues coming from the software area, they'll release OS-X for the PC faster than you can say “and would you like fries with that?”

It wouldn't surprise me if a version of OS X already exists for the PC. After all, isn't it really just the NeXT operating system that Steve Jobs was developing when he was away from Apple? I doubt he was planning only to run it on Apple hardware. Most likely the plan was to run it on x86.

you say that MAC is in the harware business but really all they make themselves anymore is the case and perifables every thing else they buy from others. so really mac is more about the software now other than that there just like dell of gateway.

Actually, OS X is based entirely on BSD. FreeBSD to be exact, I think, but not entirely sure. Not Linux, not NextStep. Apple is in the hardware business only insofar as they would like to control the hardware that is used for their OS. This is for two reasons: First, so that they can have high margins which compute to earnings for the company. Second, so that they don't need to have the huge testing staffs that Microsoft and any PC software developer needs to have to make sure that their wares work for every possible combination of hardware that is available in the PC market.

It is soooo common for the “certain circle” dwellers to have that defensive outside view of one with genuine interest.

And yes, to my knowledge, alex is correct.

Mike is correct os x is not linux
os x foundation is a core operating system commonly known as Darwin Which is uniux and most importantly Mach 3.0, operating-system services based on 4.4BSD

Alex: “Why spend $3000 for a Mac when you can get a faster PC for $1000?” Unfortunately, that's the way most people think. There is soooo much more to computing than processor speed. For the average user, what's the difference between 800MHz and 1.5GHz? Not much. On the interface stuff, I agree. Linux isn't ready for “prime time.” Bob: of course it goes without saying that Apple is in the business of making money - and as of right now, their money is in hardware sales. If Motorola, IBM, etc, ditch the PowerPC or fall too far behind, then you would most likely see Apple hit the software side harder.

When the average user starts messing with photos, videos and music the difference between 800mhz and 3GIGAHERTZ is huge. The difference is even more startling when you get into things like games or any type of 3D processing really.

all i have to say is Blah! like what you try and try what you like …